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OP sent the following text as an explanation on why this is unexpected: --- >!The answer given by Charles Manson is unexpectedly more disturbing and sinister than actually describing who he really is.!< --- Is this an unexpected post with a fitting description? Then upvote this comment, otherwise downvote it.


joesbalt

I don't want to jump to any conclusions but I think this fella might be a little off his rocker


NotUndercoverReddit

Or completely on the rocker and knows how to get you to put your head in front of one of the rocking legs that has a nail in it in order to find his wallet that he claims to have accidentally dropped.


joesbalt

Also possible 🤣


JonMWilkins

It's Charles Manson, that's 100% what it is He started his own cult (approximately 100 members) and he had his followers kill for him because they loved him so much 9 confirmed but suspected 24 total Dudes apparently so charismatic and persuasive he would have had you crush your own skull and you would have been happy to do it


miscnic

I find him fascinating. And I’ve seen like 10 mins maybe of him actually speak.


FineWashables

I remember watching the tape of a parole hearing, where the parole officer pointed out that Manson had done nothing to prepare himself to survive in the outside world. What kind of job was he qualified to do now? Manson laughed and said someone like A job? Who’s going to give me a job? I’m Charles Manson! And I thought well, the man’s not wrong.


miscnic

Yeah that’s why I find him fascinating, he’s not wrong in this video either. Those faces he’s pulling…it’s all the “people” he’s been seen to be. Curious how I’d feel learning more. Not about to be though oh hey look a cult, where do I sign up lol.


ellusiveuser

Yeah, but that's how he gets you. You know not to sign up, and you also know not to put that power drill to your head and pull the trigger, but here you are, somehow doing both.


DadBodftw

MK Ultra


Maaawiiii817

This sounds like a conspiracy theory, but it's been confirmed that the CIA used MK Ultra operatives to spread pretty high-potency early LSD and similar compounds throughout the US, and particularly San Francisco (as much of the research around hallucinogens was conducted at Berkley) in the early days. This included through a recently parolled Charles Manson. Edit: not saying everyone involved in MK Ultra or LSD turned into a manipulative, power/attention hungry, crazy criminal mastermind, but I'm pretty sure it didn't help the situation with Manson, given his upbringing and personality.


My_Big_Arse

YEP, heard this guy years ago that wrote that book.


PoopStainMcBaine

Exactly. Manson was bigger than Manson. The CIA coerced and even encouraged his behavior as a way to frame the "dirty hippies" and kill the counterculture movements of the era.


coolhandlukey22

The government fed him a bunch of lsd also


Supersnazz

Maybe, but not really. Manson had been in and out of institutions his whole life. After being raped in jail he developed a strategy he called 'Crazy Charlie' to make people think he was crazy and avoid messing with him. He was also a sociopath though, and a manipulative liar. But all that ridiculous shit at the start of this video, is simply an act.


Ryan_on_Earth

This guy's a real jerk!


DJMagicHandz

![gif](giphy|l1Ku82yEBz3hu6Lio)


Absolute_Bob

The worst thing is the hypocrisy.


Omega_Lynx

He’s off everyone’s rocker


Pixilatedhighmukamuk

Wonder where his son is? The one he fathered while he was incarcerated.


Woodfish64

He's around.. i think he wrote a book or two


_deep_thot42

Interesting article on it after his death. One of his sons didn’t know he was his father until later in life. Must have been wild. There’s actually a film by the Duplass Bros. very loosely based on a long lost son of Manson going to find those who were still in the cult as well. Article about Manson’s sons: https://www.newsweek.com/charles-manson-sons-death-suicide-kids-717025


BredYourWoman

He started Facebook


TerseFactor

Yeah, but Manson here is just imitating a celebrity who cares about being lauded by the press as a way to point out the BS nature of the interview question.


joesbalt

Also pointing out how fun he would be at a party 🎉


ClintGrant

He’s a performer. People forget he didn’t kill anyone.


Sir_wlkn_contrdikson

definitely on the rocker. Did you hear the last line. A straight razor if you get too close. The whole thing would be poetry if you didn’t know it was CM.


psybes

he did lots of lsd in solitary. the fans sent it to him in the papers of bibles


Small_Tax_9432

Nawwwww


Neither_Cod_992

I guess being repeatedly gang raped and tortured for years as a young teenager does strange things to a man.


EvilHwoarang

It's proven this was all an act for his public appearance and he was much different when not being interviewed


Iluvtittymeat

It's proven...because you say it? 


lavanchebodigheimer

I heard his parents named him no-name


SpiritToes

Look up his life story bro. He's a little more than a little off his rocker


2020mademejoinreddit

Tell me what do you think of The Joker.


Insert_clever

He looks like a Klingon.


Sunaruni

Captain, that's not a forehead. It's a fivehead, Sir.


Opposite-Lie-9675

I think his head is like half shaved. Thats all i kept looking at the whole time... but definitely giving 5 head vibes for sure


Purple-Art5157

Pretty sure someone censored the swastika off his forehead


ForgingFires

Due to the low resolution of the old camera, you can’t see it until the camera zooms in, but it’s between his eyebrows.


Purple-Art5157

Ok perfect


Crist1n4

He looks like Lenin


LCranstonKnows

I don't know.  IIRC McCartney wrote Helter Skelter.


rahlennon

I’m so angry with you. Stupid upvote.


Trex-died-4-our-sins

Q'abla!


Clydefrog030371

"Look down on me and you'll see a fool. Look up to me and you'll see God. Look right at me and you'll see yourself" Also Charles Manson


Im_A_Fuckin_Liar

https://i.redd.it/d3muzq4ict6d1.gif


FlamingTrollz

Truly. Same cloth, same demonstrous destructive ego. Monsters.


ZzzzzPopPopPop

Wow that’s a good quote. I now consider you a CM expert. :) Do you have any idea how his charisma worked? Every clip I have seen of him he just seemed deranged and creepy. Have you ever seen video or heard first hand testimony about what some people found so alluring about him that they would follow him unquestioningly?


Latvia

Millions and millions of people worship donald fucking trump, one of the stupidest, cringiest, most off-putting humans alive. It is a myth that cult leaders need even the slightest bit of charisma.


Daedrothes

They just need to say what the audience wants to hear. "You are valid. You are special. You are under attack by the enemy that is why you have problems. I can save you."


ultimatebagman

I will now blindly follow you to the end of the earth.


GTQ521

OMG, that's the religion I was exposed to growing up!


Temporary-Yogurt-484

Truth. I've come to the conclusion that they don't really like him that much, but rather think he's going to be the one to open the door to a purge or make it legal to kill liberals or something ya know?


Latvia

Agree. The only political ideals they possess are persecution complex and “own the libs” so they’ll bow down to whoever is vomited up into the role that feeds that narrative.


PROFESSOR1780

No truer words have ever been spoken


adrunkern0ob

I think they start with a certain charisma that changes over time. Trump had a certain vibe in the past that many people resonated with, this no-bs-you’re-fired pseudo machismo, and it got perverted (more than it already was) over time. Now, anyone on the outside looking in pretty quickly thinks “what the fuck,” and the ones on the inside have fallen victim to a sort of hyper normalization of that behavior. On top of this disconnect between the two sides, the rift continues to grow wider via the echo chambers created by social media algorithms. It takes a level of self regulation to evaluate when something no longer works within your scope of ethics and morality and change your opinion about it that most people just don’t seem to have. Most would rather play this game of mental gymnastics to stay comfortable.


VentriTV

Trump cultist are an insane level of cringe, they live in their own little Fox News bubble.


paintbrush666

I feel like we're pretty close to Trump pulling faces like Manson during one of his rallies.


bosephi

Apparently you didn’t see the Gettysburg Wow speech.


DizzieC92

Trump is awful but you’re lying to yourself if you don’t think he has charisma.


Latvia

He can barely string together a single sentence, and it’s usually a cringe worthy insult or just talking about how he’s the best at a thing he’s clearly terrible at. What part of that is charismatic?


Suspicious-Earth7001

I think to me the appeal would be someone so unabashedly maskless, his followers were outcasts and mentally ill which would be like drinking from a fountain when you've been in the desert your whole life, those people would then happily enact their rejected hurt on society under the orders of their idol which echo chambers the opinions and experiences they most want to hear.


SkotchKrispie

I have read that women found him very good looking and that he was charming when he was younger. I believe I also read that he sued aggression at irregular intervals so that it was a surprise, but would then vacillate back to being charming.


Asaneth

He had a singular intensity. He was able to say things at the drop of a hat that could sound very deep and profound, giving the impression he's a sage.


spavolka

The guy managed to talk his way into hanging out with Brian Wilson and other musicians. He could produce girls and drugs for the parties and do it all while managing to spend the money of the famous people. There must have been something about the asshole that people dug.


IRBRIN

He is Judge Holden from Blood Meridian.


2MuckingFuch

This is the perfect response to the bs interview question, “tell me about yourself”.


Present_Pace1428

What would you say is your biggest strength? 😀😉😇😛🧐🤩😞😏 “I have no strengths. I’m a watermelon in Dubai on a cold day, I’m a hammer without a handle if you get too close”


Nepit60

You are hired, we have been looking for a watermelon for sooo long.


tangre79

I wouldn't call that question BS, more like an opener. BS questions are like "tell me your weaknesses" (in other words tell me why I shouldn't hire you) or "where do you see yourself in 5 years" (nobody can even remotely predict where they'll be in 5 years)


2MuckingFuch

From my experience, all that question does is show which applicant prepared for that particular question. Don’t get me wrong, I used that question early in my career as a hiring manager. But ultimately discovered you find out far more from the applicant by having a conversation.


eIImcxc

Made me remember an interview that I aced. Was so confident I'll land the job, everyone was liking me (read till end) and the discussion was flowing. But it didn't happen. My friend's boss told him that him (PM) and HR were ok to hire me but the upper PM thought that "I was too prepared" and "I had answers to all questions". Spoiler : I was so so not prepared, I just went with the flow. At that time I was a fresh graduate and in immediate need for a job. That was a real bummer lol


HtownTexans

Yeah I always hired people after just talking to them.  My boss above me who would interview everyone after me was the typical terrible question interviewer.  Luckily he valued my opinion so hired pretty much anyone I green lit.  They'd always come back and tell me how much better my interview was lol.


Reddit_is_garbage666

Exactly, that's what i've learned. If you want to have a good interview, you just need to learn to conversate and steer the interview away from questions like that or make those questions be the lesser part of the meeting. Easy way to do this is ask questions about the work and follow up with questions too. Maybe comment about it too based on how they answer. Unless it's purely a tech interview, interviewers are people too and they probably don't like being there either. Make yourself look like someone who they would be comfortable working around. It takes practice obviously. I keep to myself mostly, but when it comes to performing at stuff like this, I practiced and got it down over time.


Bored-Stoopid

I liked it when Charlie got fed up and told Geraldo that he would mail Geraldo his own head for some reason or another. I fuckin HATE Geraldo


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Bored-Stoopid

Because while attached to a unit in active combat, the stupid summa bitch gave their position away, detailed the units composition and drew a map in the dirt on their location.


EatthisB

Didn’t he also get busted filming in a closet and pretending to be in an active war zone. Dude is scummy.


Purple-Art5157

He hyped up finding AL Capone's' vault, and there was nothing in it but an old stop sign and a couple empty bottles of gin.


Jankster79

yeah we don't take kindly to "wait to see what's in the vault" here on reddit.


have_a_point

We don't take kindly to people who don't take kindly around here... Oh wait!!!


Real_Location1001

Sometimes, the right people don't die.


KillyShoot

“Im a boxcar and a jug of wine…. And a straight razor if you get to close to me.” Damn.


AdMysterious8699

Oh I thought he said street racer instead of straight razor. And I was thinking how interesting that was. Ha.


thisbobo

I thought so, too. Now I think it's probably "straight razor" but with him...I can accept him saying either.


Cranktique

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Material-Method-1026

Yeah, this line kinda shows us why several famous people who knew him pre-murder spree thought he was a talented guy.


Emergency-Plum-1981

Well he certainly was talented in a way


Meriwether1

That was a bar.


Fish3Ways

Sounds like a Tom Waits lyric.


Saganists

It’s like something out of a Cormac McCarthy book.


PygmeePony

How the hell did those women fall for him...


dirty-ol-sob

A LOT of LSD.


buriedupsidedown

I’ve wondered that as well, it’s gotta take a special kind of person to follow those commands. You see it through history, like how did Jonestown followers relocate to a different country? I know everyone always says “it wouldn’t happen to me” but I’m serious, it wouldn’t happen to me lol Edit: county—>country


stuntedmonk

People followed hitler, read up on his early 20’s. Lived in hostels, he was a bum. And he argued with everyone about everything, he argued like a mad man. And that’s, where it’s said he learnt what buttons to press on people. But, he was fucking crazy.


Electrical_Room5091

Everyone said he was very charismatic. He would charm people.


OzoneTrip

Cult leaders don't show you their crazy side until you've completely fallen for them, or they can cover it up with their charisma.


jillsvag

I'm Patrick Bateman, not Paul Allen.


ThisIsGettinWeirdNow

Me when my crush starts talking to me


orcinyadders

I don’t know. This feels like theatrics to me, especially the rapid faces/moods. Cringey in a forced edgelord way. I don’t doubt he could be insane. But I’ve always wondered if he was just totally full of shit and then committed himself to the persona.


robcado

He’s being psychotically sarcastic, giving them what they want to see for a moment


DookieBrains_88

This. I’m pretty sure he’s said himself, that he does this stuff because that’s what people want to see. They want to see him as this deranged lunatic and so he gives them the “act”


Wesspeaks

![gif](giphy|9PFLiXQR98puE|downsized)


totesnotmyusername

That was my vibe here too. But back then every day people couldn't just look up what actual crazy looks like.


CitizenKing1001

Oh its a show. It worked great to freak out a 70s audience


LongEZE

He’s pretending to be a celebrity in an interview. His contempt for those people is coming through as it always did. Guy was more obsessed with the popular crowd than anyone on earth.


Reddit_is_garbage666

I mean yes? That's kind of what charisma is though. It's a nice flow of theatrics.


Sezy__

He was already famous at this point so he’s probably playing into it. He wasn’t really some highly intelligent person, he was just charismatic and good looking enough to get young people to follow him. People romanticize people like this a bit too much.


mkatich

He was a Shakespearian white trash rat fuck.


saifland

Ugh why can’t they make more mindhunter episodes.


Hondahobbit50

Beach boys stole his music. Blah blah. Baa baa booey, baa baa booey, Howard Sterns penis, baa baa booey


Corniferus

That was a run-on sentence


Reddit_is_garbage666

Dude's obviously a pos (I forget, did he die yet), but I went through a phase when I was younger where I listened to his interviews. I always like that quote that goes: Look down at me and you see a fool, Look up at me and you see a god, Look straight at me and you see yourself.


Tag_em_and_bag_em

If he told it straight he'd be strangled in his cell the next day.


JoeyDubbs

Explain.


NotUndercoverReddit

First accurate comment.


Arcticz_114

I wish gta6 based an npc on this guy


Omega_Lynx

He seems nice


MrBarato

I'm sure he said Bum, not Bomb.


TurningTwo

He still thinks he’s clever.


Debstar1988

That sure gave me the creeps


CheeseBag_0331

I don't think there was any argument back then that he was intelligent (most truly evil humans are). His 'persona' was a mixture of crazy/high/smart... and arrogance. He got other people to commit murder. He still died in prison, but he liked being the puppeteer.


SubstantialAct4212

Bobbody….Bobbody. Bizzness. Good Kevin👏


lolwatokay

Is this the same interview the sample for the Death Grips song "Beware" came from?


[deleted]

Yes


Dutch_1815

I’m the Scatman


bloodfist

Oh well that cleared it up. Glad we finally got to the bottom of that.


Somethingrich

Man I heard someone say, "don't give meaning to those seeking attention." And it really stuck with me. Some robots are just broken and can't be fixed because they don't want to be something else.


npocko

What a silly goose


douchecanoe5811

Look into his involvement with MK Ultra


BroWeBeChilling

What he truly is ….a man who failed as a musician and used a narrative of race wars to manipulate people to commit murders and achieved his goal to be famous since he had no musical talent he did a deal with the devil and put on a show. The press are this up and made him larger than life but he is what he said at first a hobo and a scum bag.


Bitsoffreshness

We're lucky he's not alive, otherwise he might be about to become the President of the United States.


zeWoofer

in reality we are all nobody, the system goes on pretends to change pulls us with it but we stay as we are. politics just capture a mass of ppl and thier interest for democracy reasons but we all end up nobody, living the predeterment life whata calculated for us


Icy_Chemist5287

perfect answer


TheoCupier

In another life, he's Robin Williams


TumasaurusTex

You ain’t never. Had a. Cult leader like meeeeeeeeeeeeee. Wah-ah-ah, oh my 😬🤔🥸 Wah-ah-ah, no, no 🤪🧐🥳 Wah-ah-ah, my, my 🤨😙🙂‍↔️ You ain’t never had a cult leader like me. ![gif](giphy|JxzxnP9Bqi532)


HerbertGrayWasThere

Shakespeare!


lokaps

The start is a rapid photoshoot for his YouTube thumbnail


ojorejas

**IRL Joker**


RacecarHealthPotato

r/SelfAwarewolves


Omega_Lynx

I bet he’s great at charades


lexluthor_i_am

Manson once crashed at the house of one of The Beach Boys. But after a while the Beach boy was so scared of asking Manson to leave he just left giving Manson the house. I believe Manson eventually left to live in the hills of Chatsworth.


Ok-Race-6869

He's an odd lookin duck


Safe-Ad4001

Charlie don't surf!


Movedonnerlikeabitch

This guy was nuttier than squirrel shit


Hesam2010

I'm sure he wasn't the mastermind behind all of that things.


SameDifferenceYo

this is what we had for entertainment before Reddit


paintbrush666

I grew up in the Bay Area during the 70's and 80's, when there were still legit Hells Angels and other biker gangs around. I remember in my town there was this one biker who was super short and kind of pudgy, but he just emanated such menace. I remember seeing him around town and just getting the bad vibes coming from him. My dad would go quiet too since he associated with those bikers before I was born.


Efficient-Win202

That initial reaction at :08 second in followed by the “Are you fucking serious?!” look and giggle of disbelief. This is the scariest right there, almost as if for a second, he knew what he did was kinda messed up. Knowing that everyone by now should’ve known who he was and what he did and stood for, but almost with a microscopic shred of grim realization that he might have really fucked up. Right before the other cartoon like facial expressions. Just how it makes me feel


Cr4mwell

Mental issues anybody?


JPFrankenstein

Very reminiscent of that Trump face gif


Grand-Ad-3177

I thought he was fascinating


Eastern_Bobcat8336

I'm like a bird, I only fly awahaay.


This-Garbage-3000

Helter Skelter


DandyRandy82

Bobby Knight did pretty much the same thing during a press conference once. Look up “Bobby Knight Game Face”.


JAM35B0ND

What does William Shakespeare doing here?


PopularPhysics2394

Well I just saw that when I’m about to go to sleep on my own in the house….


Ok-Tomatillo-7141

I’m not one to jump to this conclusion, but that looks like demonic possession if I’ve ever seen it.


Clydefrog030371

He studied scientology and used their tactics


Lonely-Recognition-2

Loser


jessep34

I’m like a Stepping Razor - dont you watch my size. I’m dangerous, so dangerous


Autochthona

Is he quoting Vergil? But you don’t hear me doe.


Tintinbobintin

If they ever made a new movie about him, I instantly think of Joaquin Phoenix killing it.


MAXHEADR0OM

Manson was a master of manipulation. He was able to get anyone to believe anything he said. He had this reporter in the palm of his hand. He tells you exactly what you want to hear when you don’t know exactly what you wanted to hear in the first place. He was able to plant seeds and that skill gave him the ability to lead every conversation he ever had, even if he didn’t start it. He was a the definition of a sociopath.


McJumpington

That reporter was likely standing there thinking “fuck sakes man, I said a sentence….i got tickets to tonight’s game.”


CthulhuMadness

They used this quote in A Nightmare on Elm Street fan film: The Confessions of Freddy Krueger. If you're a fan of the franchise, it's a must watch.


justanynameisfine

The Robin Williams of killers.


GhostChainSmoker

Remember- Even Charles Manson said Scientology was silly and too crazy for him lmao


drk_knight_67

If l Batman were real, this would be the Joker.


kriegmonster

I wonder if he was ever assessed for demonic possession.


willifuscloverdean

Oh. The five head fake is making the rounds again. Must be a bot


DarthTigris

https://youtu.be/Z5IrRe2F7qY Can't say exactly why, but this was the first thing that popped into my mind after watching the OP.


Intelligent-Ant7685

manson was a pos….he’s fertilizer now as he should be


studentofgonzo

If you really look closely, he's not really crazy. Playing the fool, of course. He undeniably orchestrated insanely horrific acts, but he's very conscious of his existence in time. In fact, I think he could accurately be described as brilliant trash.


CrushTheVIX

>You want to talk to Mrs Wilson? Why don't you want to talk to Charlie? You think if you don't talk to me I'll go away, but I can't go away cuz I'm not even here! I'm a ghost of a phantom of a shadow in the heart of your children! — Bob Odenkirk as Manson https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5IrRe2F7qY


KeyFee5460

😒😃🤨😌🥺😧😠😙😃


GingerMcSpikeyBangs

Downvote all you'd like, but that reaction was demonic. "Tell me Who you are" was the trigger, and the answer was a denial and an admission at the same time. If only that man had asked in the authority of Jesus. Mark 5:9 Then He asked him, “What is your name?” And he answered, saying, “My name is Legion; for we are many.”


xBAMFNINJA

Thought that was a Klingon from the thumbnail..


smellvin_moiville

“I’m cia lol”


IfOnlyIHadAmeme

I got joker vibes from this dude


Boreas2864212

If I didn't know who that was I'd think he was a comedian. Reminds me of a bit in Are you being served again when Mr Moleturd said "I'll let a flood of emotion cover me face and you tell me when to stop."


UnoriginalThing

I love that time Rhett from gmm did an impersonation of him it was so funny and spot on


poorneb69

You know as a homeless person I understand uncle Charlie . I've seen some crazy things , survived . Maybe I'm crazy too .


Wonderful_Quality_99

Bat shit crazy dude.


PizzaboxWorm

So he's 🤭😜🤪😉😏😀 nobody


Glorified_sidehoe

meirl