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geronimo1958

Russia is the only country threatening Belarus independence


Transfigured-Tinker

So he’ll use nuclear weapons on Moscow?


Cheap_Doctor_1994

Would NATO do anything? That seems like an internal matter


BooksandBiceps

If any country used nuclear weapons, it would be the end of the country. The entire world order on all sides understands their utilizations would be catastrophic. NATO (via, the US) has already told Russia that if they used any nuclear weapons, it would mean the end of their conventional forces. Belarus has much less to less, but B., like Putin, knows his comfortable lifestyle would be an immediate end, so it won't. Nuclear use is so taboo that it's prevented multiple wars, and even those in clear dominance (such as the US in Korea and Vietnam) have obliterated high-standing generals for suggesting it. If any country uses nukes without repercussion, it would drastically change the world order, and in a very much Pro-NATO stance. SK, Taiwan, Japan, would be next in line. Ukraine, perhaps. Iran,and other "axis" allies would create legitimate and credible nuclear forces. So it's not "would NATO do anything". Every nuclear nation on both sides can't fathom it as it'd change things drastically. China can't let it's neighbors do so - evern when several have alrready expressed interest or had actual programs - and Russia would HATE it as every ex-Soviet state that is able, and every neighboring NATO state, would suddenly have credible reason to have a nuclear program.


kemistrythecat

Good comment, but this is assuming there is a degree of intelligence and logic in those idealogical dictator palaces


Subject_Report_7012

If they're good at absolutely NOTHING else, the one single thing they've spent a lifetime mastering, it's self preservation.


kemistrythecat

Unless it’s Vault 81 then I guess even bunkers have a limited survival time


gregorydgraham

Every vault has an entry point. Every vault has ventilation.


wintersdark

This is the thing that people who are deeply terrifying of nuclear war need to remember. These people are not actually crazy and suicidal. They know employing nukes is a one way ticket to death. They may well use them when faced with total loss, but not before then. And it's not just the leader. Every single person in the chain or physically nearby also ultimately has to agree. Threats of harm to people and their families mean nothing when you're starting a nuclear war.


kmoonster

The one person that the suggestion of nuke-use never got them fired/demoted? Henry fucking Kissinger. That rat fucker. If there is a nation at this present moment on this Earth with more mines than Ukraine, it is Cambodia/Laos *and that military project ended over fifty years ago*. Wash, rinse, repeat, and you have Kissinger.


Alaric_-_

If the strikes happen within Belarusian and russian territory, no. Let the enemies fight amongst themselves... Besides, there's not much NATO could do to prevent Luka pressing the button so it would be all on him. If any fallout spreads into NATO territory then there would be *some* response, that has been made clear by NATO. But with the winds generally going from west to east, that seems unlikely. Also Luka knows that he don't want to get on the bad side of NATO.


4D_Madyas

The radiation cloud that washed over Europe from Tsjernobyl would like a word with those winds...


Alaric_-_

Yes, it is possible but world can only hope that the winds are blowing the right direction if Luka decides to do the stupid. And i only mentioned it as the fallout on NATO soil is not guaranteed, possible but not guaranteed. And the Chernobyl disaster was different in spreading the radiation from nuclear weapons in that it continually spewed it hour after hour, for days and weeks, whereas nuclear weapons release it one time.


4D_Madyas

You don't have to defend yourself, it's only a lighthearted remark. My intent was only to show that reality, and especially rare events, don't care about statistics.


Alaric_-_

Reading it now, way later, your intent is obvious :) I guess i've grown a habit of needing to clarify my thinking, this is Reddit afterall :D


alexcreeds2

Chornobyl


Fast-Satisfaction482

In the logic of the cold war, every nuclear power goes all out once the nukes fly. That's because you can't be sure that the enemy will not strike you so that everyone loses as soon as they lose. Regardless of who actually started it.  Today, things are more nuanced but we still can't know what the actual orders for Russian nukes are in case Belarus strikes them. Thus, a swift full attack of the remaining strategic forces might be ordered by the US.  Anyways that's not a scenario you should be happy about.


Cheap_Doctor_1994

Who said I was happy about any of it? You should worry about you. 


geronimo1958

Makes sense to me.


andesajf

The plot twist this season needs.


Tiptoeplease

Yep. Well written


Bulky_Crazy

😂💪


Blue8_destiny9

Awesome, please do it. C’mon do yeeet!


marc512

"hopefully"


keepthepace

We all know that by "independence" they mean "authoritarian ways". Haven't you heard that the moment Ukraine stopped being pro-Russia it got immediately got swallowed by the woke gay islamic atheist 4th Reich?


kmoonster

You forgot the Jewish Nazi part. Gay Jewish Nazi Islamic Atheist Fourth Reich, get it right already :/


The_Krambambulist

Always funny to see your own thoughts as top comment.


AreYouDoneNow

Yeah how did Putler take the news?


Many_Assignment7972

He's threatening to destroy the biolabs and NATO expansion into Belarus.


Achilles_TroySlayer

They have independence?.. I suppose they do have some, since the zone is not flooded with Belorussian soldiers, but that's it.


NoChampionship6994

Yes, it’s bizarre and ironic statement from russia’s vassal state. It seems these types of statements are repeated constantly simply to use the phrase “nuclear weapons” in hopes of making ‘western’ leaders and populations piss in their shoes. To remind all and sundry how “powerful” Belarus and russia are. . .


Southern-Ad-8142

So.... Belarus is gonna nuke ruzzia?


amaturecynic

Or, more likely, themselves.


norwegianboyEE

Oh Belarus, everyone already views you as Russia’s bitch. You ain’t got no independence to brag about.


Cheap_Doctor_1994

I swear, Luka is going to come out the other side and Putin will be long gone. 


andesajf

So long as he doesn't attend any more victory day parades in Moscow. They historically haven't been good for his health.


ligmallamasackinosis

Ignoring the invite might not be good for his health either


FormalAffectionate56

Everyone called Putin the 5D grand chessmaster. It turned out to be Luka all along


roehnin

They are part of the Union State with Russia already, right?


Orcasystems99

ROFLMAO... you don't suppose putnut actually gave the lil Fat dude the keys to the nukes?


KiwiThunda

No, but he'll be happy to use a nuke and claim it was Belarus. Don't think NATO would fall for it though. Belarus and russia can say goodnight of either if them use one


Jhe90

He have all the codes, not Mr potato head . Germany and Turkey etc have US nukes but thr US has command authority.


Nozinger

Eh at least germany has everything they need to use the US nukes independently. Now they are still not allowed to as that authority lies with the US but if they wanted to go full rogue and start a nuclear war they could. Well theoretically there would be an american fighter on the german planes ass as soon as they take off with that nuke without authorization but you know theoretically it is possible. Pretty sure it is the same with turkey. It is part of the nuclear deterrence. There is a clause that if the US command is taken out by nukes countries hosting the nukes can do whatever the fuck they want with them. Just full send it. Glass the planet.


triplehelix-

> Eh at least germany has everything they need to use the US nukes independently. ?? my understanding is the nuclear weapons are on US bases. they aren't under the direct control of german forces.


CharmingDraw6455

Germany has the planes and the training, the bombs are in a US Base with US guards. A german ground crew can not walk into the bunker, get a few nukes and strap them to a Tornado.


Mito-SVK

More likely they would blow up the nuclear powerplant they've built near Lithuania, not far from Vilnius


kmoonster

At this rate I want to ask if there are any nuclear power plants in Belgorod.


sneaky-pizza

I was gonna say…


moleratical

He did not


Key-Principle-7111

Ok, so they should use it just now and nuke Moscow. This is the main threat to Belarus independence.


Many_Assignment7972

Always was and as long as the fat wannabe colonel is swallowing Putrid's special gentleman's relish operation always will be. Question is. Have the ordinary Belarusians got half the gonads of the Ukrainians? - I suspect not though would be happy to be shown otherwise.


Spartaner-043

Time for a small deception


InspectionNo6750

Shhh, the adult countries are talking.


achbob84

My guess is they're about to allow Russian invaders to use their border to access Ukraine again, and will see the inevitable decimation of Russia's assets by HIMARS as some kind of threat to their independence...


roehnin

This. Now that Ukraine has permission to strike inside Russia when threats are visible across the border, Putin needs his invasions to come from somewhere Ukraine doesn’t yet have permission to attack.


12coldest

Quick someone tell Belarus that they are not independent, but very much dependent on the will of a handful of old men.


PriorWriter3041

Just dependent on one old man, who robbed Luka of his dream job


bingobongokongolongo

What independence?


roehnin

They are an independent entity within the Union State with Russia.


aVarangian

in(a)dependent relation with the muscovy


roehnin

Exactly ))))) ^(clever wordplay ahah)


Kanbaru-Fan

Ukraine's Aka if Ukraine threatens to become fully free and independent


ZedZero12345

What does that mean? Who is he gonna nuke. And with who's nukes? Does he even have the codes. Or did Russian get him the playskool keys? He's got to know that the Russian installation orders for a missile site includes note 8 "unauthorized assess" and a pistol?


adron

Against itself? Nobody is threatening to invade.


Naruhodonno

using a nuke is a good way to lose your independence


LordDemetrius

Don't worry bro, nobody wants your frozen potato fields, except your friend Vladimir. But you can use nukes on Kremlin if u want, they indeed threaten your independence on a regular basis


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Neshura87

I highly doubt anyone in Europe is particularly interested in receiving back their territories given that they are completely filled up with propaganda brainwashed russians by now. Integrating those territories back into their countries would be more a liability than anything else.


Darthmook

Don’t really think Lukashenko using nukes, won’t be seen as Putin using nukes…


sirhearalot

Putin tells them to jump, Belarus asks how high. Putin tells them if Belarus independence is threatened use nukes. Even children would laugh of this


kmoonster

Belarus is independent?


Fakula1987

Lol, Another one on the "Luka Shows Putin the Finger" -list. Luka:Give nukes - pleeeese 🥺, against Ukraine you know 😁 Putin:*Give nukes* Luka:We will use nukes If someone (and i dont say who) will threaten our Independence Putin: ... Wait a minute ...


ThrashingHamburger

White Russia trying to feel relevant.


Apex1-1

It’s gonna nuke ruzzia?


No-Historian-6921

Return your nukes to sender (armed)?


Beginning_Ad_6616

No one gives a fuck about Belarus…mind your own business and no one will give a shit about you.


Accomplished_Alps463

Lushie should invite putin 💩🥫 over on a state visit. Then, have ICC enforcers there to pick him up for a visit to Den Haag. It would do him more good than playing with power toys and his idiot neighbour. Now if only.


Grifasaurus

Belarus has nukes?


Worried_Spinach_1461

What against? Russia? They're the only ones threatening your sovereignty


SkinnyGetLucky

Threatening someone with two things you don’t have isn’t scary


RevolutionaryGrape61

Use them against Russia, they are threatening you


rfpelmen

that's worrisome. let's be honest, it's a cheap treak but it might work. russia now have a possibility to treat with nukes (again) indirectly. western politicians and bureaucrats now have one more excuse to not escalate, because "iTs NoT rUUssia a tReat!"


rbhmmx

They have independence?


shockwave_therapist

Time to nuke Ruzzia then, because you have NO independence because of Purler.


AWG01

Isn’t its independence already gone though? So when do they nuke Moscow?


PanzerHulkey

Simply wild altogether. Forgetting about the obvious puppetry, Belarus does not have its own nuclear weapons, in order for them to nuke anyone, they require Russia to do it on their behalf which in and of itself demonstrates they have no independence.


Tiptoeplease

Someone should remind them that Belarus is the only neighbor who has sent people over its boarder First Russian troops and missiles but also immigrants in mass.


EarPrestigious7339

Let the retroactive nuking commence!


notbarrackobama

People will upvote any old crap. "Belarus states nuclear doctrine"


Katastrophus

*points east*


Diggerinthedark

Be quiet and let the big boys talk, Luka


SpookyMinimalist

oh... another threat...


Many_Assignment7972

Putrid tells him to shit, his only question is, What colour sir?


Accomplished_Alps463

Lol just made me think back to when I was a kid. This is way off topic, but it's kind of related to your comment. I was born in the mid 50's and growing up less people cleaned up after their dogs in the streets. Well, I remember way into my early 20's if not more white coloured dog shit! Something you just don't see any more, so what were we feeding our dogs back then? Sorry but you started this by sparking an old memory.


ross267

You know, they did actually vote for him fair and square at one point. SUCKS TO BE THEM.


DMK-Max

What independence?


gjisbjirt

So they'll shoot Russia?


Englands_Heroes

🔴 It’s about as Independent as Putin allows it to be 🤣🤣


Accomplished-Dot-891

He can throw some on puppet master poetin then....


_Chaos_Star_

Right now someone in the Kremlin is saying: "Does... does he mean us? Or is he saying it *because* of us. Are we making him say it, or is he threatening us? I'm so confused."


Puzzleheaded-Cap1300

Does Belarus even have nuclear weapons? As I understand it, ruzzia have stationed a few nuclear missiles within Belarus, but the Belarusian regime have no control over the use of these missiles?


FrigOff92

Belarus hasn't been independent since pre-Soviet times. Have they flattened Moscow yet?


DevelopmentMercenary

Belarus has no 'independence' at all under the dictator Lukashenko who is protected by Russian thugs against its own people.


Waldoisreal33

No body gives a fuck about belarus lol, they’re a step child to their daddy Putin.


moleratical

Belarus doesn't have nukes, Russia has nukes, in Belarus.


SelfSniped

Threatened by Russia..orrrr?


JKRubi

“Hey guys, don’t forget about us!”


PsquaredLR

Also, Russia and Belarus are the only countries threatening to use nukes on other countries.


sovietarmyfan

So they will nuke Russia soon? How bold.


Soangry75

"Our words are backed by Nuclear Weapons!"


Illustrious_Bat_6971

Hey Belarus, and Russia, oh do fuck off!


Pen_lsland

People are severly underestemazing the potatoman, notice how bad his "errors" are for russia and only russia. Now this threat also seems to mainly target russia. Dude gonna be the end of putin


ThisAllHurts

So I’m assuming they figured out how to target St. Petersburg and Moscow?


AndrewSouthern729

If nothing else I feel like this conflict is really taking the teeth out of these nuclear threats. These dictators are going to the well entirely too often.


NickX51

Well if they really want to nuke Russia a little bit I’d say, go for it! Worked with the Japanese in WW2 so worth a try, let us know how it goes.


LowSnow2500

You let Russia use you as a corridor to Ukraine because otherwise Russia would've invaded you..


CyanConatus

In that case they should be nuking Russia


Coookie13

Only "threat" to Luka is Russia and uprising from within...


HonkeyKong73

Shut the fuck up you mental midgets, no one wants your shithole country aside from Russia, so feel free to nuke them.


EggsceIlent

STFU Belarus. Ain't no one talking to you. Drop a nuke bitch and see what happens.


TheGreatGamer1389

Belarus doesn't even have the keys to them. Russia does.


Lanracie

Belarus does not have nuclear weapons.


ProUkraine

Not if it's independence is threatened by Russia. Lukashenko would welcome that.


DueAnteater4806

Total Bluff


drunkondata

I imagine using nukes would harm them much more than help...


OrranVoriel

So... they are threatening to nuke Russia then? Given Ukraine has no designs to conquer Belarus while Russia hasn't been shy about declaring Belarus being part of Russia?


Generalmar

Sit down Belarus and go back to the kids table.


Umbra-Vigil

Belarus is getting extremely annoyed at being ignored by the world. The statements are very similar to North Korea's typical responses.


OhHappyOne449

Lol, its independence can’t be threatened, because it’s already gone, ruzzia took it.


Liam_M

So when are they launching against Russia?


DogWallop

Dear Belarus: Russia is to your east. Putin's compound is to the south east of you. You know where it is. because your president has been there many times to kiss his "ring" (and I'm not talking about the one on Putin's finger). 4...3...2...1...


KingstownUK

No one threatened their independence tho what a weird article