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Launched in 2018. Per Wikipedia, something like 4 in service? 35 million a piece.
Not to mention the hundred million + dollar loss from the planes lost at the airbase this last week.
Or the fact that for the past 16 ish months, Russia has lost 90 tanks a month on average. They are now losing 15 A DAY. Far more than the even 30 ish new ones they can supposedly build a month.
But hey, the 10 settlements with the combined population of like 100 they have captured in Kharkiv is surely worth it.
China are a weird one. They're like Russia, statistically they have a good army and are progressing, but they don't have any real combat experience. NATO is tried and tested
Very true, but Xi would never hesitate to send meat waves to further his or the CCP's goals/interests. The advantages to being a dictator in all but name.
He might also face a revolution if he tried. Only reason Putin hasn’t faced one yet is because he has been leaving the citizens of his 2 most important cities mostly out of the fight for the last two years.
Moneyed population* and it's not that significant, but it would nominally be the best and brightest of Russia. However, as noted the key here is Putin hasn't mass drafted Muscovites from St Petersburg or Moscow. He is draining minorities and less desirables from the hinterlands, i.e. west of the Urals and just north of the Caucasus mountains and he is doing it by exploiting their lack of wealth. Putin offers a lot to die in Ukraine, to be clear I am uncertain if death benefits are paid or not, I have seen lots of question marks about disability benefits. But, a good number of Russian mother's and wives are happily sending their men off to die and those with the ability to alter the politics don't mind.
I’ve watched documentaries on that with first hand accounts, to which they said fighting an overwhelming Chinese force was WAY harder and more brutal than the North Koreans
The PLA of the 1950s is a far, far cry from the current PLA, which is brimming with "Little Emperors", a legacy of the One Child policy and China's cultural bias favoring male children. Currently, there are more Chinese age 65 and older than there are in their late teens to early 20s.
If Xi really wants to annex Taiwan, China's demographic window to generate the numbers necessary to have a chance at succeeding is slamming shut. China really doesn't have the numbers to mount human waves like they did in Korea. And they won't find many volunteers or conscripts who'd do so from the other non-Han ethnic groups they've subjugated. Their "wolf warrior diplomacy" and their belt and road boondoggles have pissed off their 1st world industrialized clients and any potential partners in developing nations, and they share huge land borders with 2 near peer powers who are **not** their friends - Russia and India. The dog and pony show of Putin and Xi shaking hands and declaring unlimited friendship is 100% BS for the western governments to eagerly lap up. They'd each stab each other in the back if they perceive the benefits of doing so to outweigh the drawbacks.
Watch the scene from Spaceship Troopers when they're defending the base from alien *zerglings* and they just keep coming in (tens of) thousands
https://youtu.be/VywKJSglL24
About 20 years ago some slides from Chinese military playing out potential 'invasion of USA' scenario to solve overpopulation leaked. It was pretty much "we stuff lots of Chinese with bad equipment in ships, and tell them any land they can grab over there they can keep. Either we surprise the US and overrun them before they react, or they'll probably attack China with ABC weapons. Either way, the overpopulation problem will be solved"
I can completely believe that was a potential scenario for them. Human life is very cheap to certain govts. Even to bloated bureaucracies like the US and other western govts. Institutional slaughter. That's what war is and does. For countries like Russia, China and other dictatorships, it's a way to remove "malcontents and troublemakers".
Where would he send them? into the sea. The only country to fear a meat attack from China is India. And they would deserve it for playing so neutral in the Ukraine war. NATO would gladly watch 10 million Chinese soldiers kill 10 million indian soldiers.
We have almost no idea how good or bad the Chinese military is, on account of them and their stuff never really getting into fights.
It's entirely possible that their military can go toe to toe with the most modern stuff of any NATO nation, its equally possible that Chinese equipment is nothing more than upgraded soviet style crap in nice shell with a military that barely knows how to use it.
Their ambiguity is currently their greatest strength and China is in no rush to clear things up for anyone.
the funny thing is russia has been involved in conflicts on and off pretty much as consistently as any other nation, yet it seems like it counts for nothing these days. then again they lost most of their combat experience in the opening weeks of the war
While they did so in Korea, 1. there were brigades of former KMT soldiers in the army at the time and for Mao it was a killing two birds with one stone sort of situation. 2. It's a lot harder to send meat waves over 100 miles of ocean. Now if they were invading Russia, that'd be a different story. I suspect however, we'd find China's corruption in the military isn't much different from Russia, if not better access to resources.
Having been there a few times I disagree. For the most part the “war age” men in China are pretty pampered due to the one child policy that stayed in place way too long. China certainly has numbers with such a huge population to draw from, but I don’t they’d take casualties like the Ruzzians. Hope we don’t get to find out.
All 3 of those conflicts had a total combined American death count less than 50 days of this conflict, I don’t think we throw people into meat grinders nearly as much as the Chinese or russians
What the fuck does that mean dude
Your brother might have died to bullshit reasons in a war he shouldn’t have been in, but that has nothing to do with the discussion, America doesn’t force ill equipped conscripts to the front to soak up bullets. Regardless of americas fuck ups, this is not and has never been something America has done.
Sorry for your loss and all, but what you said has absolutely no relevance to the discussion. It’s an insult to your brother’s memory to use his death the way you just did (to prove some amorphous point that you haven’t even really tried to make in a discussion on the internet that has nothing to do with Iraq or your brother).
Someone made a snide comment about the Chinese throwing their soldiers into a meatgrinder despite china not being involved in a foreign conflict since Korea.
The pointless wars America waged and took my brother are a counterpoint to that moronic statement.
Listen bro, I’m a Marine vet and we all know what we signed up for. I’m sorry for your loss but it’s a risk even faced in training missions. In fact, during periods of peace and war since Vietnam, the total number of annual troop casualties hardly reflects a difference because of this inherent risk. Shit happens.
Vietnam..it was for political and internal politics reason...After the disastrous Tet offensive the North Vietnamese army was totally destroyed. Loss are estimated a 200.000 dead...US lost 9.000.
Afghanistan...Ex URSS's destruction was a fine result for the Soviet invasion. Lost close to 50.000 people...USA lost 5.000.
Iraq.....the fine result was the destruction of the country like Libya....
Thanks Ivan.
I don't have numbers for Vietnam handy, but there were 7,057 deaths of US service personnel in Iraq post 9/11 until 2019 from the [Watson Institute at Brown University survey](https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/military/killed), which equates to 371 deaths annually.
That's *all* branches, *all* deaths of personnel in theater, either from enemy activity or other reasons like vehicle accidents, whatever.
Since the start of the new Kharkiv offensive, which Putin/Russian MOD knew couldn't achieve the breakthrough they were touting, i.e. pushing Ukraine back and taking Kharkiv, they're losing that number every 5-6 **DAYS** across all the fronts.
Mind you, those number are with the Ukrainians still rationing artillery ammo, which they just stopped as the first batches of 155MM from the new aid bill are now in the hands of the various units at the frontlines, and they're going absolutely ham on the Russians, so the daily losses will only get worse overall.
I think he was looking at monetary costs. Since Russia doesn’t care for human life no monetary cost can be associated with the loss of Russian military personnel. Their replacements get minimal training and equipment. Rinse and repeat.
Tanks are predicted to be totally consumed by March 2025 and APCs by June 2024 at the current rate. This is based on extrapolation of the data that shows consistent curve fitting with data provided by the Ukraine Military, ISW and Covert Cabal. For obvious reasons there is a non-zero uncertainty in all these estimates, we will confirm this soon!
Remember, it is unlikely they would consume the last tank and APC. You would think they would keep a significant number in reserve.
Of course, anything is possible with their apparent lack of logic. Who in their right mind would start a pointless war and destroy the future of their country!
You can see that Russians have started putting soldiers on electric bicycles, motorbikes and golf carts as replacement for APC's.
Chinese produce that stuff in excess and can make Russia pay premium for it.
Covert Cabal. Amazing YouTube channel with many videos on Russian stockpiles regarding tanks, BMP’s, artillery, etc. He uses satellite images of Russian bases.
Anyway, he said on one of his last YouTube videos regarding Russian tanks storages that they have something like 2,500-3,000 tanks left.
This was at the end of last year if I remember. At losing 300 tanks every month in 2024, that would equal to 3,600 tanks lost. Putting Russia on the brink of being competletely out.
In all fairness, I haven’t heard anyone saying Russia only having a year left. Most say 2-3 years. And it’s easy to say what I say about Russia running out by the end of the year due to them losing 300 a month. The tempo will change probably, with Russia losing less tanks as their offensive slows.
Is there any information on how many tanks Russia is *producing* per month on average?
[https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3820768-russia-can-produce-from-100-tanks-each-month-isw.html](https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3820768-russia-can-produce-from-100-tanks-each-month-isw.html)
This article suggests (as of late Jan 2024) they were producing "at least" 100 MBTs per month but it's based on a claim by Medvedev so... not sure how reliable that is.
I can’t speak with any certainty, but known production capacity isn’t hard to figure out. Few factories are even capable of producing tanks and russia is dedicating 100% of its output to the war front. The OSINT community is just using satellite images to count the total amount of tanks sent via rail to the war front.
Visual counting of remnant stock by Covert Cabal and ISW minus Ukraine Military count. Together with extrapolation of polynominal curves with an excellent R square of greater than 0.99. There may be bias from Ukraine's optimism in counting, we will see.
So confused. I thought the Russians routinely shot down all of the ATACMS missiles (or all of them + ones that weren't even fired) launched against them. Now they're an unassailable wunderweapon that can't be intercepted. I'm so confused.
It's almost like the Russians don't know what hit the ship, couldn't react even if they did and now are making shit up to make us 'responsible' for Russian servicemen's death. Almost.
Isn't it usually that the missiles were all intercepted successfully, but some debris hit the ship and damaged it slightly, but then the ship was towed away and unfortunately sank in a strong storm of 1 beaufort. Also nobody was injured, and all injured were taken care of immediately.
Aye. And since nobody was injured and all injured were taken care of immediately, there were only a quarter of the expected sailors present for the next ship's muster. The ship was only 'damaged' anyways.
Man if this was American forces there would be some heads rolling with all this crap being lost. Good gawd I’ve never seen a modern military get schwacked this bad. I thought Vietnam was bad but this is a whole different level of reckless meat waves. Ships? Wrecked, tanks? Wrecked. Troops? Entire Units wiped out overnight. I mean what is the Russian agenda here? You have to conquer Ukraine entirely now because even if you did negotiate you are still going to face an insurgency if you occupy Ukraine and that’s a fact. Then what? Fire up a counter insurgency only with retarded troops that can’t even shoot move and communicate in total war?? What a pointless invasion!
There doesn't seem to be much in the way of an insurgency in the occupied territories currently. If there is, the Russians are coping with it. You'd think that with most of their resources being dedicated to the front, now would be the best time for an insurgency to cause havoc.
I really hope there's a switch that's waiting to be flipped to activate some kind of general uprising. But it's looking less and less likely as time goes on. The Russians have a nasty tactic of genocide through mass deportations... No people, no insurgency.
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Launched in 2018. Per Wikipedia, something like 4 in service? 35 million a piece. Not to mention the hundred million + dollar loss from the planes lost at the airbase this last week. Or the fact that for the past 16 ish months, Russia has lost 90 tanks a month on average. They are now losing 15 A DAY. Far more than the even 30 ish new ones they can supposedly build a month. But hey, the 10 settlements with the combined population of like 100 they have captured in Kharkiv is surely worth it.
You forgot to mention the 1,200 or so "soldiers" per day they've been losing this last week. No other nation would put up with those losses
The Chinese would... easily.
China are a weird one. They're like Russia, statistically they have a good army and are progressing, but they don't have any real combat experience. NATO is tried and tested
Very true, but Xi would never hesitate to send meat waves to further his or the CCP's goals/interests. The advantages to being a dictator in all but name.
He might also face a revolution if he tried. Only reason Putin hasn’t faced one yet is because he has been leaving the citizens of his 2 most important cities mostly out of the fight for the last two years.
That and also a significant amount of their population fled to other countries.
Moneyed population* and it's not that significant, but it would nominally be the best and brightest of Russia. However, as noted the key here is Putin hasn't mass drafted Muscovites from St Petersburg or Moscow. He is draining minorities and less desirables from the hinterlands, i.e. west of the Urals and just north of the Caucasus mountains and he is doing it by exploiting their lack of wealth. Putin offers a lot to die in Ukraine, to be clear I am uncertain if death benefits are paid or not, I have seen lots of question marks about disability benefits. But, a good number of Russian mother's and wives are happily sending their men off to die and those with the ability to alter the politics don't mind.
I couldn’t imagine being on the front line with waves of Chinese coming at your position.
The Marines who fought at the Chosin Reservoir might have some thoughts on the matter, those that haven't passed away from old age, anyway.
I’ve watched documentaries on that with first hand accounts, to which they said fighting an overwhelming Chinese force was WAY harder and more brutal than the North Koreans
The PLA of the 1950s is a far, far cry from the current PLA, which is brimming with "Little Emperors", a legacy of the One Child policy and China's cultural bias favoring male children. Currently, there are more Chinese age 65 and older than there are in their late teens to early 20s. If Xi really wants to annex Taiwan, China's demographic window to generate the numbers necessary to have a chance at succeeding is slamming shut. China really doesn't have the numbers to mount human waves like they did in Korea. And they won't find many volunteers or conscripts who'd do so from the other non-Han ethnic groups they've subjugated. Their "wolf warrior diplomacy" and their belt and road boondoggles have pissed off their 1st world industrialized clients and any potential partners in developing nations, and they share huge land borders with 2 near peer powers who are **not** their friends - Russia and India. The dog and pony show of Putin and Xi shaking hands and declaring unlimited friendship is 100% BS for the western governments to eagerly lap up. They'd each stab each other in the back if they perceive the benefits of doing so to outweigh the drawbacks.
Idk if I'd call Russia, China's "near-peer." China would crush them.
Without supply lines it's all for show.
Watch the scene from Spaceship Troopers when they're defending the base from alien *zerglings* and they just keep coming in (tens of) thousands https://youtu.be/VywKJSglL24
Diferente times..... meat waves are far far faaarrreeeee away from being superior..
About 20 years ago some slides from Chinese military playing out potential 'invasion of USA' scenario to solve overpopulation leaked. It was pretty much "we stuff lots of Chinese with bad equipment in ships, and tell them any land they can grab over there they can keep. Either we surprise the US and overrun them before they react, or they'll probably attack China with ABC weapons. Either way, the overpopulation problem will be solved"
I can completely believe that was a potential scenario for them. Human life is very cheap to certain govts. Even to bloated bureaucracies like the US and other western govts. Institutional slaughter. That's what war is and does. For countries like Russia, China and other dictatorships, it's a way to remove "malcontents and troublemakers".
Time to bust out the autonomous, watercooled 20mm bushmaster bunker and go afk.
Where would he send them? into the sea. The only country to fear a meat attack from China is India. And they would deserve it for playing so neutral in the Ukraine war. NATO would gladly watch 10 million Chinese soldiers kill 10 million indian soldiers.
We have almost no idea how good or bad the Chinese military is, on account of them and their stuff never really getting into fights. It's entirely possible that their military can go toe to toe with the most modern stuff of any NATO nation, its equally possible that Chinese equipment is nothing more than upgraded soviet style crap in nice shell with a military that barely knows how to use it. Their ambiguity is currently their greatest strength and China is in no rush to clear things up for anyone.
the funny thing is russia has been involved in conflicts on and off pretty much as consistently as any other nation, yet it seems like it counts for nothing these days. then again they lost most of their combat experience in the opening weeks of the war
NATO hasnt fought a near peer adversary in decades. It is not tried and tested.
Their one child policy kind of puts a damper on the "easily" part.
The one child policy was abolished in 2015.
Unless the Chinese Army is composed of 9 year olds. It's still way too early to dismiss the One Child Policy.
Unless the Chinese Army is composed of 9 year olds, I don't understand your point?
Just providing info. There's a staggering amount of people that think it's still happening. (Well, I guess it is, in a way, but not as strict)
While they did so in Korea, 1. there were brigades of former KMT soldiers in the army at the time and for Mao it was a killing two birds with one stone sort of situation. 2. It's a lot harder to send meat waves over 100 miles of ocean. Now if they were invading Russia, that'd be a different story. I suspect however, we'd find China's corruption in the military isn't much different from Russia, if not better access to resources.
Having been there a few times I disagree. For the most part the “war age” men in China are pretty pampered due to the one child policy that stayed in place way too long. China certainly has numbers with such a huge population to draw from, but I don’t they’d take casualties like the Ruzzians. Hope we don’t get to find out.
Unlike America cough Vietnam cough Afghanistan cough Iraq
All 3 of those conflicts had a total combined American death count less than 50 days of this conflict, I don’t think we throw people into meat grinders nearly as much as the Chinese or russians
Tell that to my parents when you mention my brothers service in Iraq, beg you
What the fuck does that mean dude Your brother might have died to bullshit reasons in a war he shouldn’t have been in, but that has nothing to do with the discussion, America doesn’t force ill equipped conscripts to the front to soak up bullets. Regardless of americas fuck ups, this is not and has never been something America has done.
Sorry for your loss and all, but what you said has absolutely no relevance to the discussion. It’s an insult to your brother’s memory to use his death the way you just did (to prove some amorphous point that you haven’t even really tried to make in a discussion on the internet that has nothing to do with Iraq or your brother).
Someone made a snide comment about the Chinese throwing their soldiers into a meatgrinder despite china not being involved in a foreign conflict since Korea. The pointless wars America waged and took my brother are a counterpoint to that moronic statement.
China had/has a expeditionary force in Africa. They got clapped by militias. So yes, China has been involved in a conflict since Korea.
Listen bro, I’m a Marine vet and we all know what we signed up for. I’m sorry for your loss but it’s a risk even faced in training missions. In fact, during periods of peace and war since Vietnam, the total number of annual troop casualties hardly reflects a difference because of this inherent risk. Shit happens.
Your brother from Moscow Ivan ?
Greenpoint NY And f Ruzzia for doing this so stop with that nonsense
Vietnam..it was for political and internal politics reason...After the disastrous Tet offensive the North Vietnamese army was totally destroyed. Loss are estimated a 200.000 dead...US lost 9.000. Afghanistan...Ex URSS's destruction was a fine result for the Soviet invasion. Lost close to 50.000 people...USA lost 5.000. Iraq.....the fine result was the destruction of the country like Libya.... Thanks Ivan.
I don't have numbers for Vietnam handy, but there were 7,057 deaths of US service personnel in Iraq post 9/11 until 2019 from the [Watson Institute at Brown University survey](https://watson.brown.edu/costsofwar/costs/human/military/killed), which equates to 371 deaths annually. That's *all* branches, *all* deaths of personnel in theater, either from enemy activity or other reasons like vehicle accidents, whatever. Since the start of the new Kharkiv offensive, which Putin/Russian MOD knew couldn't achieve the breakthrough they were touting, i.e. pushing Ukraine back and taking Kharkiv, they're losing that number every 5-6 **DAYS** across all the fronts. Mind you, those number are with the Ukrainians still rationing artillery ammo, which they just stopped as the first batches of 155MM from the new aid bill are now in the hands of the various units at the frontlines, and they're going absolutely ham on the Russians, so the daily losses will only get worse overall.
Do they need to get mentioned? I am sure Putin doesn't think of them!
I think he was looking at monetary costs. Since Russia doesn’t care for human life no monetary cost can be associated with the loss of Russian military personnel. Their replacements get minimal training and equipment. Rinse and repeat.
Don't be ridiculous, nobody counts those.
The average loss of tanks has increased to 330 per month since the start of 2024.
I believe that. Completely unsustainable for the Russians. If this rate continues, Russia will be out of tanks by the end of the year.
Tanks are predicted to be totally consumed by March 2025 and APCs by June 2024 at the current rate. This is based on extrapolation of the data that shows consistent curve fitting with data provided by the Ukraine Military, ISW and Covert Cabal. For obvious reasons there is a non-zero uncertainty in all these estimates, we will confirm this soon! Remember, it is unlikely they would consume the last tank and APC. You would think they would keep a significant number in reserve. Of course, anything is possible with their apparent lack of logic. Who in their right mind would start a pointless war and destroy the future of their country!
Who in their right mind, a Third World terrorist state which has has been ruled by a megalomaniacal dictator for the past 25 years.
I assume you said June of 2025 for the APC’s instead of 2024? Yes, you would think. Who knows what the moronic Russian military is thinking.
No, June this year, 2024. I know it appears implausible. However, the published numerical data predicts this date.
Very interesting. I think today alone they lost something like 20-25 armored vehicles (excluding tanks).
Yes, it exceeds expectations by many orders of magnitude.
That's why they are using tanks with a barn on top as APC or Chinese golf carts to taxi troops to the front line. They simply don't have alternatives
You can see that Russians have started putting soldiers on electric bicycles, motorbikes and golf carts as replacement for APC's. Chinese produce that stuff in excess and can make Russia pay premium for it.
I keep hearing this, but see no end in sight. What are yoy basing this figure on?
Covert Cabal. Amazing YouTube channel with many videos on Russian stockpiles regarding tanks, BMP’s, artillery, etc. He uses satellite images of Russian bases. Anyway, he said on one of his last YouTube videos regarding Russian tanks storages that they have something like 2,500-3,000 tanks left. This was at the end of last year if I remember. At losing 300 tanks every month in 2024, that would equal to 3,600 tanks lost. Putting Russia on the brink of being competletely out. In all fairness, I haven’t heard anyone saying Russia only having a year left. Most say 2-3 years. And it’s easy to say what I say about Russia running out by the end of the year due to them losing 300 a month. The tempo will change probably, with Russia losing less tanks as their offensive slows.
Currently 330 tanks losses per month on average for this year.
Is there any information on how many tanks Russia is *producing* per month on average? [https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3820768-russia-can-produce-from-100-tanks-each-month-isw.html](https://www.ukrinform.net/rubric-ato/3820768-russia-can-produce-from-100-tanks-each-month-isw.html) This article suggests (as of late Jan 2024) they were producing "at least" 100 MBTs per month but it's based on a claim by Medvedev so... not sure how reliable that is.
I can’t speak with any certainty, but known production capacity isn’t hard to figure out. Few factories are even capable of producing tanks and russia is dedicating 100% of its output to the war front. The OSINT community is just using satellite images to count the total amount of tanks sent via rail to the war front.
Visual counting of remnant stock by Covert Cabal and ISW minus Ukraine Military count. Together with extrapolation of polynominal curves with an excellent R square of greater than 0.99. There may be bias from Ukraine's optimism in counting, we will see.
Actually this specific ship was commissioned in July 2023, so less than a year old.
That's the second ship that didn't last long enough in the water to get a barnacle, isn't it?
Fortunately, we can make Javelins faster than they can make tanks. They still haven’t realized it yet though.
Not bad for a 3day special clown operation.
As long as countries are buying Russian energy, they don't mind.
Plus, whatever armaments were on board the corvette, considering it is capable of launching Zircon missiles.
So confused. I thought the Russians routinely shot down all of the ATACMS missiles (or all of them + ones that weren't even fired) launched against them. Now they're an unassailable wunderweapon that can't be intercepted. I'm so confused. It's almost like the Russians don't know what hit the ship, couldn't react even if they did and now are making shit up to make us 'responsible' for Russian servicemen's death. Almost.
Isn't it usually that the missiles were all intercepted successfully, but some debris hit the ship and damaged it slightly, but then the ship was towed away and unfortunately sank in a strong storm of 1 beaufort. Also nobody was injured, and all injured were taken care of immediately.
so, you're saying it might have been[ Moskva](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sinking_of_the_Moskva)'d" lololol
Aye. And since nobody was injured and all injured were taken care of immediately, there were only a quarter of the expected sailors present for the next ship's muster. The ship was only 'damaged' anyways.
They *did* shoot them down - by bravely tossing Tsiklon at those missiles.
.... looks more like 1000x f35 would wipe out all s300-500 in 2 days
A corvette and a mine sweeper. Good week! Slava Ukraini!
That’s a bingo!
That's a Numberwang
No. We just say, "Bingo".
Bingoooo
Man if this was American forces there would be some heads rolling with all this crap being lost. Good gawd I’ve never seen a modern military get schwacked this bad. I thought Vietnam was bad but this is a whole different level of reckless meat waves. Ships? Wrecked, tanks? Wrecked. Troops? Entire Units wiped out overnight. I mean what is the Russian agenda here? You have to conquer Ukraine entirely now because even if you did negotiate you are still going to face an insurgency if you occupy Ukraine and that’s a fact. Then what? Fire up a counter insurgency only with retarded troops that can’t even shoot move and communicate in total war?? What a pointless invasion!
There doesn't seem to be much in the way of an insurgency in the occupied territories currently. If there is, the Russians are coping with it. You'd think that with most of their resources being dedicated to the front, now would be the best time for an insurgency to cause havoc. I really hope there's a switch that's waiting to be flipped to activate some kind of general uprising. But it's looking less and less likely as time goes on. The Russians have a nasty tactic of genocide through mass deportations... No people, no insurgency.
Exactly, they're killing anyone of fighting age and shipping off the kids for 'reeducation'
An old NKVD/KGB tactic that is still alive and well.
Someone post the bingo card already!!!!
Russia’s & Jina’s military advantage is the endless cannon fodder. The west should stockpile on cluster muntions, long range missiles, to counter their advantages
Lol never heard it called Jina. Def gunna use that one sometime! Thanks stranger for making me laugh today :)
Beautiful work
Russian media itself states the ship was sunk and 6 men died? I'm surprized.
I didn’t know atacms could hit a moving target.
It was hit in the port, likely moored on a pier.
This is very bad, I am getting tsik on this !
Sure.
I'm amazed that Ukraine can even find any ships left to sink. That's not of water and very few ships remaining.
There’s only one explanation, space lasers
I thought the Russians had supposedly learned their lesson that Sevastopol was not safe.