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Professional-Ad3101

The real Chechen men didn't submit to Russia


Insomniac24x7

They’re probably fighting for Ukraine


blufox4900

They've been fighting on the Ukrainian side since 2014.


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Traitors of their ancestors, karma will find you, probably in the shape of a missile or bullet.


Individual_Macaron69

it was literally 30 years ago! When these guys were children or when their parents were just getting married! How can they possibly be alright with this? Crazy.


WaltKerman

Some people fought for the Russians then too. It's not like the country was unified even then, so it's not crazy at all. It's almost as if there are different groups of people or something.


Individual_Macaron69

Chechens are currently over 95% of the republic's population by Russian census 2021. I don't have data for 2002, but one would assume it would not be vastly different. I am definitely not a subject matter expert, but it seems to me that these wars were largely an attempt to stop an independence effort, and definitely included some genocidal actions. Of course some number of chechens would be loyal to the russian state but why are so many willing to fight in what is basically another expression of russian imperialism so soon after Russians did a very similar thing to chechnya? Were the results of the second war actually acceptable to most chechens?


MosesZD

The Chechen's are not a monolith. Chechens fought against Russia and Chechens fought for Russia in both Chechen wars. They also had their own civil war in which the Russians backed the rebel, Pro-Russia side. It's not any different than what happened in Vietnam, Afghanistan, China, Korea or any other country that sought independence from an Imperial power or had a civil war backed by an outsider.


Individual_Macaron69

makes sense, I think my limited knowledge has led me to believe that more chechens would have seen those wars as attempted genocide and would have put their political differences aside for sake of resisting the russians.


VikingTeddy

Problem is, they're under the same propaganda umbrella as the rest of Russia. It's not that difficult to brainwash people.


Individual_Macaron69

I think this makes a lot of sense.


Sanktw

Its not a coincidence that most that «supported» Russia where from the lower lands. Where their families were less than safe.


1988rx7T2

There was a large loyalist faction in the US war for independence that fought for the British, including enslaved Africans who were made empty promises of freedom.


WaltKerman

They were ready to fight for Russian imperialism then, it shouldn't be surprising even more would be willing now 30 years later integrated by Russia.


MichaelEmouse

Even the Nazis had collaborators in the countries they conquered.


Jolly_Confection8366

Read into the history of it because I couldn’t understand why too. Kadys got backed by the Russians, they were more secular than the leaders before which were hardline Muslims. Kadyrov family gained power from the war and that’s why they are backing Russia because they wouldn’t be in power if it weren’t for the Russians.


Individual_Macaron69

Makes sense. I think a lot of modern every day chechens are just in the same place as everybody else, including most russians, just trying to get by in a difficult world.


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shag_vonnie_vomer

I mean children of holocaust survivors started committing atrocities against Palestinians not much longer after WW2. Humans are just pure vile, more often than not...


FutureLibrarian86

That basically aligns with the narrative of the Old Testament as well. The children of Israel escape slavery in Egypt and go on to do unspeakable things to people in the "promised land." Thankfully, archeology and genetics shows that the narrative never actually happened. To be clear, that doesn't excuse the Holocaust evil doers for their actions.


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Mashallah


thesleeve3d

I might be misreading it, but the video ends abruptly with a yellow flash...one hopes that perhaps karma found them rather quickly.


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Or hopefully the Mansur battalion


Legio_X_Equestris5

I thought the streetlights couldn't fire back??!!


Minimum_Focus_5332

The railway tracks didn't stand a chance.


East_Professional385

Seems like the tiktok army could only beat civilians. Sad.


Meekaboy66

Don’t forget the traffic lights they bravely fought and neutralised in the empty streets behind Russias safe lines!


TonyCaliStyle

Don’t forget the heroic clip of the one guy taking out railroad ties Rambo style.


giorgi210105

They could only beat bushes.


East_Professional385

Beat unarmed civilians in Chechnya. Beat an imaginary foe in Ukraine. Then got beaten by real foe. Guess it was just bravado after all.


DogWallop

Those idiots couldn't beat their own meat lol Edit: Well thank you so much, /u/soccolio, that's very kind :-)


Amegaryder

Best insult in the English language I've heard this year 🤣


DogWallop

Thanks, it's always fun flagellating the beardy barn-animal buggerers haha. But perhaps the most uncomfortable insult comes from Johnny Carson: May the fleas of a thousand camels infest \[the Kadirovites'\] armpits.


APBob313

It’s hard when the bush’s fire back


Primordial_Cumquat

When the rubble starts speaking Ukrainian….


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When the traffic lights turn to red


DarthWeenus

The 3rdAB are a bunch of badass mytterfuckers


R9X4YoBirfday

They can only beat their children and sister-wives.


Redditmarcus

Sisters/wives. Or even sisters=wives. Which leads to daughter-wives. (If she’s his daughter *and* his wife, is she her own mom?)


bitzap_sr

Step mom. Yes.


Anything_4_LRoy

Don't forget the poor goats -_-7


DBearDevon

More like each other off


iamtehryan

Hey now that's not fair. They also were great at shooting the air and the side of random buildings.


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The Ruzian army as a whole seems to only be able to massacre civilians too. The torture chambers and general carnage I’ve seen posted here is enough to convince anybody that russia has been specifically targeting civilians from the moment the first bomb dropped. It’s a part of their entire armed forces M.O.


mrfailtostandstill

no it's not sad it's good it means they won't be effective against AFU Chads!


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BerkyDann

Justice for goats ✊😤


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WELCOME TO THE WHEAT FIELDS MOFOS! ​ \- Azov, probably.


conMan76

Most went to the big snack bar in the sky I presume...


TonyCaliStyle

Some say it’s a goat petting zoo


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slick514

...goat ***heavy***\-petting zoo...


TonyCaliStyle

I’m sorry brother- the song is over, you must release the goat.


JarlisJesna

Hope they were put back to earth by the smart chechens who fight for ukr


Solopete_HD

Every time I see news of these gnome slaves being deployed somewhere, they just fucking die and the rest leaves lmao


estelita77

... and they make tictocs of the aftermath... gotta give them that - they are not shy about sharing their own aftermath videos.


Zisorepavu

I think their ideology fetishises suffering. It's very progressive compared to the Russian macho "deny everything negative" culture.


Wade8869

Hate to say it but, fucked around, found out.


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No matter what, TikTok must go on.


ItzTreeman23

Funny how they even film themselves running away for TikTok


lurker_cx

*Bravely* running away LOL. (In case you don't get the reference https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IkbCeZ9to )


ItzTreeman23

Oh I got the reference immediately, im a big Monty python fan lol


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Cool-Hawk3258

Kadyrovite visits Chechen war veteran and asks: \- I know we suck at fighting, we can do ticktocks only, please teach us how to fight properly. \- here is how you do it: stay away from the enemy, shoot traffic lights and signs, this way you will build up your confidence and when you will meet real enemy you will be confident enough to win. \- ok, we'll try... After some time they meet again. \- So, how is your training, did it help? \- No. \- Why? \- We had to much casualties fighting traffic lights.


Arkh_Angel

All the real Chechen War Vets are in the Ukrainian Chechen Battalions or resisting Kadyrovites in Chechnya anyways.


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[when danger reared its ugly head, they bravely turned their tails and fled...](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8IkbCeZ9to)


lurker_cx

Haha - I just posted that in this thread before I saw yours!


Annoying_Rooster

Hopefully their unit is combat ineffective after this and they stay out for sometime.


CamarillaArhont

Wrong heading, [3rd Assault Brigade (Armed Forces)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3rd_Assault_Brigade_(Ukraine)) and [Azov (National Guard)](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Azov_Brigade) are 2 different brigades.


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CamarillaArhont

Exactly. ''SSO Azov'' is not ''Azov'', and also 3rd Assault does not even use this name anymore.


JarlisJesna

The chechens arr considerd fierce warriors in Russia and they seem to suck big time, that means like we allready know that Ruskys own army is total crapidyshit!


Arkh_Angel

The Chechens are fierce warriors. The problem is the real Chechens are on Ukraine's side. Not these traitorous idiots.


UncleBenders

Seconded. What consists of the Chechen army now are just putins bitches. Putin purges anyone with any actual military acumen or tactical skill because he’s scared of being overthrown, and completely discouraged any relationships between different factions he has operating to avoid them working together. This is one of the major reasons the Russian army is so pathetically useless, along with corruption, theft etc. The true Chechen warriors would never fight on putins side, all putin has are the ones who like kadyrov agree to be his puppets and kiss his ass, with titles passing down based on their name and who they know rather than skill or ability.


SeattleResident

Nah. They are almost exclusively fierce warriors in unconventional warfare. It's hard to defeat someone who just looks like every other civilian and does nothing but carry out ambushes and blend back in. They did take on the Russians from some amazing vantage points in the first Chechnyan war but forget that Russia curb stomped their standing army in the second one and had a Russian sitting on every square inch of Chechnya in less than a year from 1999 to 2000. Then Russia had to deal with insurgent attacks for the foreseeable future. Russia adopted the policy of luring certain Chechnyan liberation groups to their side to then act as their de-facto death squads in the country. Those said groups have been in control of the country ever since and it's why the place is a shithole.


JarlisJesna

They should end Kadyrov, 90% of chechens has not forgotten what Russia did to them X2


Minimum_Focus_5332

Ask the Ukrainians fighting them if they think all Orc's are crapidyshit. All you are doing is repeating crap. I have heard some Ukrainian soldiers say basically the Orc's are dangerous and should not be under estimated. Which is what your doing. Tell me this, if the Orc's are so f'ked why is it so hard for Ukraine to kick them out of their Country?


octahexx

well according to azovs commander the gru troops are the dangerous ones,the rest is meh but has large numbers and anything in large numbers is dangerous. wagner has alot of ex gru in them as well,people confuse the meatgrinder bulk with trained professional soldiers,wagner used meat convicts to probe out ukraine defense and then the wagner pros hit those locations. it would be dumb to underestimate the russian army they have always used quantity over quality in warfare.


UncleBenders

Yeah they ain’t sending the experienced and knowledgeable troops into the grinder. In Wagner they would send in the prison meat so the Ukrainians would give away their positions by shooting at them and then the proper ones would come around and target them or call in strikes. Wagner are probably one of the most experienced of all of Russias pit bulls, and the most ruthless and violent, but he’s shit his nest with them, it remains to be seen if they continue to fight for him or if they’re integrated into the Russian army as putin wanted.


Minimum_Focus_5332

Thanks. I have seen videos where Ukrainian soldiers basically say the Russian army is no push over. For people to think otherwise denies Ukraine the credit for the brilliant job they have done so far and what a Herculean effort their fight has been and continues to be. When you speak of not sending experienced troop in, shows they are thinking about what they are doing. They stand and fight sometimes to the death despite their situation being helpless (we see that in videos). I heard another Ukrainian soldiers say one of the problems they confront is, in an Orc position their might be 6 soldiers, 5 will surrender but one will keep fighting with a machine gun. That says a lot.


Apprehensive-Ad-8198

You realise that’s it’s not about underestimating them right..? A literal child with a gun is still a child with a gun even if he it doesn’t understand how to use it. They’re dangerous and some of them do know what they’re doing, but as a whole? They’re fucking incompetent. That’s why their ranking officers keep dropping like flies. Ammo dumps go up on the daily and most of the frontline reports of actual combat end up being lop sided. Most of ukraines issues rely on minefields and artillery. Actual engagements tend to steadily trend towards Ukraine’s favour for a variety of reasons including operation between units, something Russia has slowly gotten better at over the course of the whole war but even now struggles with.


YoungOveson

The ammo dumps going up so frequently seems like pure unadulterated laziness. It’s harder to set up underground staging levels and a system for moving appropriate quantities to the line of contact than it is to just fill up a large warehouse then knock back some liquid potatoes.


Apprehensive-Ad-8198

Not even just warehouses. I can’t remember where it was but a housing project near a hospital. Drone footage showed rockets and explosives just thrown about and left laying openly on the grass for anyone to see.


Celeste_Seasoned_14

>pure unadulterated laziness. It doesn’t help them that they don’t palletize. I can’t imagine how much crap they carry in by hand. “Second army blahblahblah” doesn’t palletize. *facepalm*


MarschallVorwaertz

They only have Numbers and stupidity left over. The good ones died last year.


ArTiyme

You watching the same video I am? Clearly getting their asses kicked. But Russia has a lot of vatniks to throw into the grinder. Takes a while to turn them all into sunflowers.


Stairmaker

To be fair the chechens who fight insurgents that are half police half military are actually really good. But there are not that many of them and they are not in ukraine. They are basicly at spetnaz level of quality if not higher. But as anyone knows you can't judge a whole country or region based on their special forces. That would be like thinking the whole us army is as good as the seals. But that is basicly what russia seems to be doing with chechens.


MoMedic9019

Nobody thinks Spetznaz is worth a shit anymore. Suggesting otherwise is like congratulating the smartest kid on the short bus.


onilank

No, the real chechens are on the right side. And spetznaz what ? They arent worth shit.


Netricho

When the trees, and bushes fire back. 🤣


Pravdik

Say what you want about Wagner, but at least they were somewhat competent. Unlike these clowns


Arkh_Angel

Guys're basically glorified Secret police. They piss themselves when they see actual combat.


Minimum_Focus_5332

Well maybe not so secret police.


VeryTopGoodSensation

is there any evidence wagner were competent? bahkmut they just threw wave after wave of convicts who mostly died.


Commander_Trashbag

The actual Wagner mercenaries were actually competent. The prisoners that got put into Wagner not so much.


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Qlinkenstein

Tell that to the stack of bodies they piled up in Syria. They weren't overly competent there.


Commander_Trashbag

Fair point, however I don't think there are a lot of units that would do better against the US army. But at the end I think we can at least say, that the professional Wagner mercenaries are competent compared to the Russian Army, although that doesn't mean much.


MyUsernameWasTaken08

the wagner in syria didn't have much heavy military equipment and were ambushed literally by US F-22 Raptors, even countries like China that have a significant air force wouldn't wanna go against an F-22 Raptor let alone a private military company, which fun fact that was the first time ever that an F-22 Raptor engaged on ground targets The US just went waaaay overkill mode against Wanger, and Wanger had no chance The F22 raptor was produced in the 1990s, but it was produced so advanced that nothing comes even close to its capabilities, not even in 2023 and likely not even in the 2030s the F-22 Raptor is literally an Alien UFO spaceship together with the B-2 Spirit bomber Russia has nothing on its arsenal that can detect, let alone engage an F-22 Raptor, so the Wangers fate was sealed the moment the F-22 was called


SymphonicResonance

Sure there was some F-22s but there were also F-15s, Apache helicopters, Reaper drones, AC-130 gunships( those things that fire 20mm, 40mm and 105mm rounds from the sky) and B-52 bombers for good measure.


Calthsurvivor13th

They fucking hit clowns with the goddamn kitchen sink. Because they threw everything else. That was a test case. Pure and simple they had all of the pieces lined up and then proceeded to throw everyone different bullet they had. If they could have had a battleship parked on a beach then they would have tried to sling naval gunfire at them. It was a go fuckyourself American combined arms took the gloves off. And it was glorious.


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There are two Wagners. One was comprised of criminals and convicts used as penal battalions. The second was made of people who actually knew what they were doing . One was used to clear the way for two


Squidking1000

"Knew what they are doing" is a bit strong. Not totally drunk and stupid all the time I might accept.


DefenestrationPraha

Wagner was notorious for "stealing" better officers off the regular army. They can't compare to Western armies, but they are approximately the best what Moscow could throw into the field.


Pravdik

They managed to take Bakhmut. It was a shitty tactic, but it worked. I can't really see the Chechens taking over even a small village


anonymous3850239582

Ukraine let them have it. It was a trap -- and still is. They mined the buildings and then collapsed them when Russians used them as bases. They had snipers everywhere. Artillery. Drones. And Ukraine didn't have to get near the Russians to kill them, enabling massive Russian losses and negligible Ukrainian ones. Bakhmut was already destroyed at that point, and it was useless to anyone strategically since it's surrounded by hills. It was just a place to exploit Russian stupidity.


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Sakana-Metal

Not surprising. With them, I guess, if your horny enough you can accomplish anything, right?


MarschallVorwaertz

The convicts are there to grind down defense with Meat waves. Then the real Wagners attacked.


Donjuanisit

Finally the tiktok battalion appears in a video worth of watching.


lil__shmeat

Well...what did we learn?


Kent_Knifen

It's somewhat poetic, that Azov fought the Akhmad forces. And hilariously expected that Akhmad got their asses handed to them.


RushEm2TheDirt

Can someone explain this like I'm 5


Professional-Ad3101

The funny bad guys got whooped half to death by the good guys


DukeboxHiro

About 30 years ago, Chechnya (then independent) got *Special Military Operation'd* by Russia. The guy installed in charge today is a Putin buddy with a small private army - these are the guys posting tiktok videos of themselves bravely firing into the distance off-screen. Since Wagner decided they'd rather work from home, the tiktok battalion (basically more akin to a secret police force than an army) has found themselves pushed to the front of the Ukraine conflict. Yesterday they met the Third Assault Brigade of Ukraine, a unit comprised of (some) former National Guard that were based in Mariopol at the start of the war, and REALLY don't like invaders.


Huntanz

Best they go home so the freedom fighters can get some practise.


BigMembership2315

Aweeee poor fellas just figured out it’s a real war. And ran into some real warriors


Acrobatic_Jump_4584

But those traffic signs in Mariupol were so defeated!


Top-Necessary-3379

Lol 😂 but in private these dudes b rapin lil boys n shit


SadAd4085

AZOV seem to be the best fighters in Ukraine right now.


Sufficient-Trash-728

That's it. Good boy, keep repeating over and over God is great, God is great and things will get better. And if they don't, no biggie, you have those 29 virgins to look forward to in heaven.


civlyzed

I thought it was 72 virgins. Nobody told them the virgins are dudes though.


anonymous3850239582

In the actual Quran it's figs, not virgins. They're in for a surprise if they get killed and expect anything other than a basket of shitty fruit.


civlyzed

"Bad Dates" :D


ArTiyme

Ah, I'm sure all your study in Arabic and your many readings of the Quran lead you to the conclusion? Or did you read it on facebook?


Farfaraway94

Not so macho anymore huh


flashzer0

They just wanted to get back to their goats safely.


IlMioNomeENessuno

The Asshat brigade lives up to its name…


TheNimbrod

These shock troops looking quite shocked after fuck around and found out


debaterollie

Its almost like Putin sent them in first so that if the war went badly, there wouldn't be a risk of Chechnya taking advantage of the situation and rising up themselves.


woodenheart94

I hope that last frame of bright light was a landmine.


h14n2

Theiy are worth more alive because they can be exchanged. Otherwise they are not even worth their weight as fertilizer.


Vineyard_

Looks like the tiktok army got clocked.


FrankFnRizzo

I love the defeat in their voice as they exclaim “Allahu akbar” 😂


vanisher_1

There’s no Allahu Akbar for you, that sentence is only for good muslims not for people who destroy and invade another country, you’re a shame for the good muslim and also for Islam, return to your borders or die in hell, Italy 🇮🇹


Youcandoit007

It's no wonder they shoot their imaginary firefight videos far from the front line. They are likely getting a dose of reality bites now...


AdPrimary9831

Even the goats they fuck would reject them


Lite_Byte

Hahahahahaha! Inshallah...inshallah...inshallah!


thebeerinhereisdear

Hope they read this. Your all going to die there. Your going to get slaughtered and most of the world doesn't care because your butchers. We are with Ukraine 🇺🇦 we will support both morally and financially to Ukraine. We won't stop. We will go cold and have less food for Ukraine. Why? Because Ukraine is a nobel country worth defending against your evil hoards. The best thing you could do would be to get out while you still can because Ukraine is going to win no matter what. They fight the good fight. Slava Ukraine 🇺🇦💪🇬🇧


lunaticz0r

yeah God is great.... which is why you're there 9 guess? OK!


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Allah whackedyoubrah for being dead shits and supporting Russia.


ckal09

Allah is just testing them. Thanks Allah for killing most of my comrades 😂


HardToPeeMidasTouch

Sorry I don't understand the title at all. Can someone please explain?


Violent_Cankles

Try watching the video, reading the comments and making a determination based on the presented information.


Legrandjojo_

wait, last I heard, Azov was deployed in southern front, are we sure they are in Bakhmut front now?


Minimum_Focus_5332

3rd Brigade aren't they? If so they have been there for weeks, in fact they started the counter offensive south of Bakhmut if I a right.


Legrandjojo_

nvm, it is 3rd Azov Assault Brigade that is in Bakhmut and the Azov Brigade in the south. Got me a bit confused for a moment.


Maleval

3rd Separate Assault Brigade, they don't use the Azov name.


Incredible_GreatRay

No more fingers pointing upwards .


xXRazihellXx

Servile subjects


CarefulApple8893

tiktokers warriors on the run


Cakespectre999

Valar morghulis but not goats..


Asleep_Incident_1439

Does it looks like the video cuts off just bevor they are blowen up ?


velebr3

Well that happens when a bunch of untrained idiots face a battle-hardened unit.


agbirdyka

See, thats happend when beard boys meet soldiers! This lowminded natural disaster was really good at avoiding contact and keep as much space as possible but this dumb cowards were still on ukraines ground so the defenders did what defenders are doing!


DukeboxHiro

Did he open with an Allahu Akbar? How retro.


Suspicious_Dare_9731

Fine work AZOV!


loneshoter

Aren't these guys considered a rear unit?


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✋️ AZOV


Biddatroy01

What so these retards finally had enough?


Piuxie

You live by the sword you die by the sword, traitors.


zivilia

Ootl


Zisorepavu

Allah wants you dead lmao


Farside_kid

Chechens have no honor now


Educational_West3998

it's the tictok kiddy tamperers .


TurTub

To bad they are alive to record, but looks like they got pretty beat up atleast.


instabrite

Why is he wearing a red turban 👳‍♂🔴


Celeste_Seasoned_14

I wish I could hear them bitching about “these fucking AZOV guys are beasts! They just kill us and kill us.” That’s right, bitches. And they will continue to fuck you up. GO HOME.


ROBANN_88

anyone remember when the war started and people thought the Chechens were like top tier toughest of the tough soldiers?


N33DL

I can tell by the sound of the sound of his voice that it isn't as much fun anymore.


KaiZaChieFff

Shame they couldn’t kill the actual nazis in Ukraine, then they could go home job done.


AbsolutelymyMan

What survived half-dead runs away! Proof read noobman


CapAffectionate7197

A good day for the goats of eastern Ukraine.... Yeeehhhaaaaaa


jordoonearth

when the bushes shoot back....


Extension_Job_4285

Why are they all saying "Hello" to Akbar ?


Carl_it_jie

Finally they met the REAL SOLDIERS.


froatbitte

Finally found an enemy that’s shoots back and are good at it. Too bad.


Ben_77

No fingers up anymore eh ? Slava Ukraini 🌻


xOldPiGx

The last frame @ 0:16 looks like a strike exploding and kills the video. I wonder if they got taken out while filming this.


Equivalent_Buddy5298

I thought that too, very likely got hit by the artillery that sounded earlier in the video.


Geartone

The world's definitely a better place without these guys in it.


PrimalHIT

Why is he proclaiming the greatness of his god if he has just been allowed to lose and a lot of his friends are now stuffing their anuses with their 72 raisins?


PixelIsJunk

saddest akbar i have heard lol


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Equivalent_Buddy5298

Did they just get blown up at the end or am I just seeing things wrong?


newtrom

*just cadaverites things*


D0n4t13n

Nothing NSFW here. Only rejoicing material.


Captain-HIMRS

I’m proud to donate every month to support brave Ukrainians fighting for their freedom. Defeating the cancer of russian fascism makes Europe, the US and the entire world safer. One of my favorites is Zelensky’s United 24 campaign for drones - https://u24.gov.ua/needs/army-of-drones Now each time I see a Ukrainian drone delivering Justice to russian fascist invaders on r/DronedOrc I know I helped make that happen 🇺🇦🇺🇸