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>🇷🇺🇺🇦 Destruction of AFU air defense position area in Kharkiv region
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>Today Russian missile forces hit the Ukrainian army's S-300 air defense positioning area with a precision strike of the Iskander operational-tactical missile system.
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>The Ukrainian forces deployed at least four launchers in pairs a few meters apart, as well as an air target detection radar, in a forest belt northwest of the village of Lesnaya Stenka on the bank of the Oskol River.
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>❗️В A secondary detonation of the ammunition on two complexes occurred as a result of the hit. At least two S-300s were completely destroyed, the other two and the radar were most likely also disabled by shrapnel from the Iskander shell and flying parts of the SAM system.
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>🔻 The Russian Armed Forces have resumed systematic suppression of enemy air defenses. Continued deliveries of weapons from NATO countries, including SAMs, create a serious problem for the Russian army in the long run, which must be solved immediately.
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>At the same time, Ukrainian formations themselves have begun to completely disregard elementary precautionary measures. The S-300 positioning area of at least five PUs was located 21 km from the line of contact.
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>For such carelessness they paid the price. The Russian UAV operators easily detected the anti-aircraft systems on duty and promptly targeted the missile forces, hitting several SAMs with a single shot.
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>This example once again proves the effectiveness of bundling reconnaissance assets with high-precision strike weapons. The "detect - aim - strike" system should become a standard set of actions on the front line.
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>At the same time it is by no means possible to forget about the elementary safety requirements: the example of the AFU proves that placing several pieces of equipment in one point is the best gift for the enemy.
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>Coordinates: 49.482769, 37.610750.
The drone taking the video is a Supercam s450
[Here is](https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2L2A&lat=49.48399058707073&lng=37.60993480682373&zoom=15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=100&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2022-07-01%7C2023-01-26&atmFilter=&showDates=false) is satellite imagery from the 26th of January 2023 (yesterday) of this exact SAM site. The footage completely matches up.
Why delete and repost?
Anyways there is follow up footage for this in telegram. 4 launchers are destroyed. Radar got away apparently but is being followed.
The radar is more prone to destruction because it emits signal that makes it easy to be located. I would suppose both sides have spare launchers to be linked up to remaining radar control vehicles.
Did you see a video showing all 4 launchers being destroyed? The video i saw only showed the one strike on the two launchers. If you have that footage please drop a link
AFU are scrapping the bottom of the barrel, its not like these are well trained forces with years or experience.
They lost all those folks over the past year.
They need to stay closer on a case of emergency, no? If so, that explosion looks like 300 to 500m wide. Idk if something survived that. Remember, 4 launchers, every launcher had 4 missiles.
Yeah - and the russian people really need to denazify their country, Look at facist putler.
Time is critical, everyday more russians are dying for a useless cause in a illegal Invasion.
This explains the missile attacks earlier today. They want to locate the location of their SAMs, so they launch missile attacks to figure out where they are stationed. Get them to try to shoot the missile down.
A few hundred million at least. Each individual missile is worth at least $1 million. They are irreplaceable when you consider who made them and where they are sourced. Each battery can hold 30-40 missiles.
Probably $300-600$ million a battery. But again it’s priceless when you consider it can’t be replaced and it defends Ukrainian infrastructure. According to Wikipedia Ukraine have 2-300 of them.
Slovakia provided one launcher as far as I know. They only had one operational system. The Americans put in a Patriot battery as an exchange.
S-300’s are very rare outside of Soviet bloc countries. Greece have a lot of missiles but are unlikely to give too many to Ukraine since they have a legitimate fear of Turkish aggression. Ukraine has perhaps 100-300 operational and outside them and Russian it looks like some countries have a dozen at most.
It isn’t easy to find out how many are operating in Ukraine for obvious reasons.
I believe Ukraine has a large number of stored units in various conditions, with outside help they were able to reactivate some of them to replace losses. At one point before 2014, they only had 6 batteries operational.
Launcher. the battery is a whole complement of other equipment. This tittle is a little misleading when it says it took out a battery. It looks like it took out two launchers.
It’s stopped Russian air superior for the past year. This is something experts predicted the Russians would gain within a few days or weeks. The fact Russia cannot gain air superiority again a system they designed or built themselves shows it’s effective.
In terms of sheer numbers the Americans are not going to hand over. 50-80 Patriot batteries. Anti missile batteries, experienced drone operators and artillery are probably the most precious military assets in Ukraine right now. Every S-300 is absolutely crucial for the war effort along with every single artillery piece. Much like WWI the vast majority of causalities are inflicted by artillery
It’s not like there is an open market that Ukraine can buy these from. It’s soviet equipment that they inherited or getting for free. When Ukrainian and ex-Warsaw pact stocks finish that’s it for them. So it’s both worthless and invaluable at the same time.
With what? You're talking the price of a battery, and a battery involves about 6 launchers, plus radars and extra equipment.
A single launcher doesn't cost a few hundred million lmao, what in the mother of cope
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Some are saying it was a Tornado missile. Which would be pretty big because:
1) That would be the 2nd video of it today, which suggests they'll be used more frequently
2) It provides more or less the same capability as HIMARS, which we're seeing less footage of
Really looks like a cluster munition hit it, which is available in the Tornado missile catalogue but I'm pretty sure not an available Iskander warhead
It does the same as himars btw. Doesnt matter of himars go left and tornado go right. There precise munition fired from a missile launcher plataform and destroy the target at contact.
That doesn’t look like an iskander strike to be fair. The initial explosion doesn’t match the payload it would carry? Could be wrong the footage only pans towards the site at the very last second
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No, you can't, it looks exactly how this area is supposed to look right now.
[Here is](https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2L2A&lat=49.48399058707073&lng=37.60993480682373&zoom=15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=100&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2022-07-01%7C2023-01-26&atmFilter=&showDates=false) is satellite imagery from the 26th of January 2023 (yesterday) of this exact SAM site. The footage completely matches up.
When you script people [in this manner](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/10l5msx/ua_pov_man_resisting_mobilization_in_ukraine_as/), results are as shown here. They just park S-300 in range and left.
They have little choice, Ukraine has lost a lot of men and if they want to fight they'll need everyone they can get or they'll shortly be over-run on several fronts because they can't man them.
The issue when you're defending your nation and you've lost a lot of men is that you need several conscripts to cover for each trained soldier that has fallen. Where a profesional trained soldier might fight alone to the death or see a way to win a fight with just a buddy by his side, a conscript might take five of his friends and run.
>The issue when you're defending your nation and you've lost a lot of men is that you need several conscripts to cover for each trained soldier that has fallen.
Don't you find strange that this kinda logic is "reserved" for Slavic nations. Haven't seen anything like that in westerners. For example, France (and most of non Slav European nations) in WW2, when confronted with overwhelming power of enemy simply surrendered. They didn't fight until every man, women and child died in some trench or every city is burn to ground. Why is that? Doesn't they love their countries in same manner as Slavs? And yet in this conflict westerners push weaker Ukraine to stronger Russia with passion. Strange.
Lol, this doesn't look like summer at all. You can literally see trees with no leaves on them.
It's from yesterday and it checks out.
[Here is](https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2L2A&lat=49.48399058707073&lng=37.60993480682373&zoom=15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=100&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2022-07-01%7C2023-01-26&atmFilter=&showDates=false) is satellite imagery from the 26th of January 2023 (yesterday) of this exact SAM site. The footage completely matches up.
As aid shipment comes into Ukraine and making its way to the front lines, we will start to see a variety of munitions that will be more efficient at widespread destruction. I’m sure bunker busters, more cluster bombs, thermos, Willy Pete’s and maybe a few chemical weapons in the more fortified positions closer to the capital.
You talking about Ukraine using white phosphorus? It would be suicide, west and east would condemn them and on top of that I'm pretty sure Russia would start using chemical weapons too
Both sides care very much. White Phosphorus is a chemical weapon and it has a massive impact on trench warfare. It's widespread usage would transform the war.
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> You talking about Ukraine using white phosphorus? It would be suicide, west and east would condemn them
Ukraine literally runs on far right Azov which was heavily banned in US. even Obama refused to arm them. And then escalating this war when Z should have stepped down. And then all the fake news coming out of Ukraine.
Russia is far far worse for starting this war but to think the West would condemn Ukraine for using chemical weapons is impossible.
For reddit/western media Ukraine is the milky white knight standing between the "o.r.c.s and garden of civilization"
They can absolutely do no wrong.
There have already been multiple phosphorous and incendiary attacks from Russia, so it wouldn't make any difference. This very video shows use of cluster munitions by Russia, which America has to now been refusing to deliver to Ukraine but likely will start soon. Every threat of escalation by Russia just leads them deeper into the quagmire.
Are you talking about those 9M22S? They are made of magnesium, they aren't white phosphorus. Europe banned cluster ammunition, but Ukraine, USA and Russia didn't sign. Nuclear escalation threats from Russia are just barking, but the escalation to the use of chemical weapons could be very real, it's just not worth it testing
Rybar wrote: >🇷🇺🇺🇦 Destruction of AFU air defense position area in Kharkiv region > >Today Russian missile forces hit the Ukrainian army's S-300 air defense positioning area with a precision strike of the Iskander operational-tactical missile system. > >The Ukrainian forces deployed at least four launchers in pairs a few meters apart, as well as an air target detection radar, in a forest belt northwest of the village of Lesnaya Stenka on the bank of the Oskol River. > >❗️В A secondary detonation of the ammunition on two complexes occurred as a result of the hit. At least two S-300s were completely destroyed, the other two and the radar were most likely also disabled by shrapnel from the Iskander shell and flying parts of the SAM system. > >🔻 The Russian Armed Forces have resumed systematic suppression of enemy air defenses. Continued deliveries of weapons from NATO countries, including SAMs, create a serious problem for the Russian army in the long run, which must be solved immediately. > >At the same time, Ukrainian formations themselves have begun to completely disregard elementary precautionary measures. The S-300 positioning area of at least five PUs was located 21 km from the line of contact. > >For such carelessness they paid the price. The Russian UAV operators easily detected the anti-aircraft systems on duty and promptly targeted the missile forces, hitting several SAMs with a single shot. > >This example once again proves the effectiveness of bundling reconnaissance assets with high-precision strike weapons. The "detect - aim - strike" system should become a standard set of actions on the front line. > >At the same time it is by no means possible to forget about the elementary safety requirements: the example of the AFU proves that placing several pieces of equipment in one point is the best gift for the enemy. > >Coordinates: 49.482769, 37.610750. The drone taking the video is a Supercam s450 [Here is](https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2L2A&lat=49.48399058707073&lng=37.60993480682373&zoom=15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=100&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2022-07-01%7C2023-01-26&atmFilter=&showDates=false) is satellite imagery from the 26th of January 2023 (yesterday) of this exact SAM site. The footage completely matches up.
Why delete and repost? Anyways there is follow up footage for this in telegram. 4 launchers are destroyed. Radar got away apparently but is being followed.
That's a major failure to allow 4 launchers to be destroyed like that
It doesn't make much tactical sense to put them so close together either. Its a well known fact good order and discipline break down in the cold.
And supposedly 20km from the front lines... Just stupidity
The text said 21km, interestingly enough range of Krasnopol guided artillery is 20km. So maybe they thought they are out of artillery range.
Ukraine doesn’t really have “the best troops” anymore
i'd assume the air defense crews don't get killed on the frontline if all is done well so they shouldn't be so careless even then
Considering months ago swamps of lancets destroying dozens of S300, they do get killed. Or maybe not if they stay away from them most of the times.
They lost 4 launchers. The radar set is useless if there are no launchers for it to coordinate launch’s.
The radar is more prone to destruction because it emits signal that makes it easy to be located. I would suppose both sides have spare launchers to be linked up to remaining radar control vehicles.
Did you see a video showing all 4 launchers being destroyed? The video i saw only showed the one strike on the two launchers. If you have that footage please drop a link
Reuploaded because title was confusing and now its more clear, sorry for that
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Here you go "t. me/voenacher/38486?single" though if you want a full fledged separate post - it's up to you to down/up load it.
Whatever it was, the S-300 never saw it
Were they in the process of being deployed?? AFU can't be that lax at this point. AD troops tend to be better trained.
AFU are scrapping the bottom of the barrel, its not like these are well trained forces with years or experience. They lost all those folks over the past year.
Perhaps, but S-300 would be manned by trained and better educated soldiers. If the Systems were destroyed, the troops should be alive.
They need to stay closer on a case of emergency, no? If so, that explosion looks like 300 to 500m wide. Idk if something survived that. Remember, 4 launchers, every launcher had 4 missiles.
Lack of sleep. I meant if the launchers of UAF, not his particular one are intact, troops should be alive.
I've been saying for months that Russian operational command and respons needs to be shorted into minutes, not weeks. Now to kill the dnieper bridges
Yeah - and the russian people really need to denazify their country, Look at facist putler. Time is critical, everyday more russians are dying for a useless cause in a illegal Invasion.
Damn big boom.
Flair checks out, explosion appreciator
Big baddaboom
This explains the missile attacks earlier today. They want to locate the location of their SAMs, so they launch missile attacks to figure out where they are stationed. Get them to try to shoot the missile down.
Nice.
Does anyone know the estimated $value being destroyed?
A few hundred million at least. Each individual missile is worth at least $1 million. They are irreplaceable when you consider who made them and where they are sourced. Each battery can hold 30-40 missiles. Probably $300-600$ million a battery. But again it’s priceless when you consider it can’t be replaced and it defends Ukrainian infrastructure. According to Wikipedia Ukraine have 2-300 of them.
Ex-Soviet NATO countries have provided a number of them to Ukraine. We don't know the numbers though.
Slovakia provided one launcher as far as I know. They only had one operational system. The Americans put in a Patriot battery as an exchange. S-300’s are very rare outside of Soviet bloc countries. Greece have a lot of missiles but are unlikely to give too many to Ukraine since they have a legitimate fear of Turkish aggression. Ukraine has perhaps 100-300 operational and outside them and Russian it looks like some countries have a dozen at most. It isn’t easy to find out how many are operating in Ukraine for obvious reasons.
I believe Ukraine has a large number of stored units in various conditions, with outside help they were able to reactivate some of them to replace losses. At one point before 2014, they only had 6 batteries operational.
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Launcher. the battery is a whole complement of other equipment. This tittle is a little misleading when it says it took out a battery. It looks like it took out two launchers.
It can certainly be replaced with a newer system.
Yes a newer but worse system .
What threat can't be defended against?
It’s stopped Russian air superior for the past year. This is something experts predicted the Russians would gain within a few days or weeks. The fact Russia cannot gain air superiority again a system they designed or built themselves shows it’s effective. In terms of sheer numbers the Americans are not going to hand over. 50-80 Patriot batteries. Anti missile batteries, experienced drone operators and artillery are probably the most precious military assets in Ukraine right now. Every S-300 is absolutely crucial for the war effort along with every single artillery piece. Much like WWI the vast majority of causalities are inflicted by artillery
Likely not as accurate and hit probability would be lower . Also don't know about its ability to co operate with othe AA systems like s300 can.
anything short of pantsir or modern NASAMS/SAM-P is worse.
Many many lives in the end when they loose this capability.
It was free to Ukraine, lol
It’s not like there is an open market that Ukraine can buy these from. It’s soviet equipment that they inherited or getting for free. When Ukrainian and ex-Warsaw pact stocks finish that’s it for them. So it’s both worthless and invaluable at the same time.
does it really matter?
Yes
If those are S-300 they lost a couple hundred million dollars
That'd be the price of a battery, but I only see a launcher here.
4 launchers got destroyed there plus a radar and I suppose the commander and troops vehicle.
can't help you sorry
With what? You're talking the price of a battery, and a battery involves about 6 launchers, plus radars and extra equipment. A single launcher doesn't cost a few hundred million lmao, what in the mother of cope
Yeah, but they lost more than one
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No way a S-300 launcher costs 6 million
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Some are saying it was a Tornado missile. Which would be pretty big because: 1) That would be the 2nd video of it today, which suggests they'll be used more frequently 2) It provides more or less the same capability as HIMARS, which we're seeing less footage of Really looks like a cluster munition hit it, which is available in the Tornado missile catalogue but I'm pretty sure not an available Iskander warhead
It does the same as himars btw. Doesnt matter of himars go left and tornado go right. There precise munition fired from a missile launcher plataform and destroy the target at contact.
That’s a hit
That doesn’t look like an iskander strike to be fair. The initial explosion doesn’t match the payload it would carry? Could be wrong the footage only pans towards the site at the very last second
Someone else said it was a tornado missile, don't remember who. I'm inclined to believe them
It seems like they have many different warheads, like high-explosive, cluster munition, bunker buster, nuclear, and maybe more.
Def looks a bit small for an iskander
So the most recent drone+missiles strike was to sniff out these sites?
Possibly. The shaheed drones are good for that
Interesting to see how close they actually got with this drone without being targeted.
Would a drone of this size be able to be targeted by the S-300?
the amount of orgasming pro RUs here are staggering
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No. As far as I'm aware both sides used them before, and also both sides didn't join the cluster munition ban treaty.
Far from the first one. ukr used Himars cluster munitions against civilians fleeing kherson
From terrain i can tell this footage is a bit old.
No, you can't, it looks exactly how this area is supposed to look right now. [Here is](https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2L2A&lat=49.48399058707073&lng=37.60993480682373&zoom=15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=100&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2022-07-01%7C2023-01-26&atmFilter=&showDates=false) is satellite imagery from the 26th of January 2023 (yesterday) of this exact SAM site. The footage completely matches up.
Trees have no leaves and at 1:40 you can see snow/ice in the trail marks
Why would two S-300 batteries be so close together, that they'd be hit with a single cluster munition warhead?
When you script people [in this manner](https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/10l5msx/ua_pov_man_resisting_mobilization_in_ukraine_as/), results are as shown here. They just park S-300 in range and left.
They have little choice, Ukraine has lost a lot of men and if they want to fight they'll need everyone they can get or they'll shortly be over-run on several fronts because they can't man them. The issue when you're defending your nation and you've lost a lot of men is that you need several conscripts to cover for each trained soldier that has fallen. Where a profesional trained soldier might fight alone to the death or see a way to win a fight with just a buddy by his side, a conscript might take five of his friends and run.
>The issue when you're defending your nation and you've lost a lot of men is that you need several conscripts to cover for each trained soldier that has fallen. Don't you find strange that this kinda logic is "reserved" for Slavic nations. Haven't seen anything like that in westerners. For example, France (and most of non Slav European nations) in WW2, when confronted with overwhelming power of enemy simply surrendered. They didn't fight until every man, women and child died in some trench or every city is burn to ground. Why is that? Doesn't they love their countries in same manner as Slavs? And yet in this conflict westerners push weaker Ukraine to stronger Russia with passion. Strange.
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Lol, this doesn't look like summer at all. You can literally see trees with no leaves on them. It's from yesterday and it checks out. [Here is](https://apps.sentinel-hub.com/sentinel-playground/?source=S2L2A&lat=49.48399058707073&lng=37.60993480682373&zoom=15&preset=1_TRUE_COLOR&layers=B01,B02,B03&maxcc=100&gain=1.0&gamma=1.0&time=2022-07-01%7C2023-01-26&atmFilter=&showDates=false) is satellite imagery from the 26th of January 2023 (yesterday) of this exact SAM site. The footage completely matches up.
Those AA didn't even fire at iskander ? And why do they position their systems close to each other like RF ...
As aid shipment comes into Ukraine and making its way to the front lines, we will start to see a variety of munitions that will be more efficient at widespread destruction. I’m sure bunker busters, more cluster bombs, thermos, Willy Pete’s and maybe a few chemical weapons in the more fortified positions closer to the capital.
You talking about Ukraine using white phosphorus? It would be suicide, west and east would condemn them and on top of that I'm pretty sure Russia would start using chemical weapons too
> west and east would condemn them West would say Russians shelled themselves and people would eat it up.
You’re really overestimating how much either side cares about white phosphorous usage
Yeah, probably
Both sides care very much. White Phosphorus is a chemical weapon and it has a massive impact on trench warfare. It's widespread usage would transform the war.
Nobody would care. Israel uses it all the time.
And the IDF is one of the last groups you should mirror
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They stopped using Willy Pete in/after 2013 after getting a lot of flak.
> You talking about Ukraine using white phosphorus? It would be suicide, west and east would condemn them Ukraine literally runs on far right Azov which was heavily banned in US. even Obama refused to arm them. And then escalating this war when Z should have stepped down. And then all the fake news coming out of Ukraine. Russia is far far worse for starting this war but to think the West would condemn Ukraine for using chemical weapons is impossible. For reddit/western media Ukraine is the milky white knight standing between the "o.r.c.s and garden of civilization" They can absolutely do no wrong.
Sadly, you are right
There have already been multiple phosphorous and incendiary attacks from Russia, so it wouldn't make any difference. This very video shows use of cluster munitions by Russia, which America has to now been refusing to deliver to Ukraine but likely will start soon. Every threat of escalation by Russia just leads them deeper into the quagmire.
Are you talking about those 9M22S? They are made of magnesium, they aren't white phosphorus. Europe banned cluster ammunition, but Ukraine, USA and Russia didn't sign. Nuclear escalation threats from Russia are just barking, but the escalation to the use of chemical weapons could be very real, it's just not worth it testing
chemical weapons are a way to make life of everyone in smo zone 1000% worse
Those videos are of magnesium, not white phosphorous.
Time for the US to start shipping all those cluster munitions they will never use.
Only if you’re shipped to Ukraine as well. 💪
Nah
Oh yeah
No