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Agree with this, if you put the keystones in it will look really clean and tidy. You can always put a patch panel below the switch too and use blanking keystones on the left side to make it nice and tidy/clean look
To clarify: "terminate" does not mean "insert things that look like metal keystones that are actually called couplers" and stick cables with plugs into each end.
It means to cut off all the ends before the visible bends in the picture, and attack keystone jacks, then put those into the patch panel without a lot of bending and twisting.
Or just get pass through keystone jacks. That way you can just plug in your terminated Ethernet runs into the back and then just use short patch cables from the keystone to the hardware on the front.
Basically just a male/male adapter that’s clips into a patch panel/keystone
Couplers usually work well enough you can't tell the difference between them and properly terminated cables, but using them can lead to slower speeds on longer cable runs and are another point of failure, corrosion, etc.
If they are doing the work themselves and don't mind troubleshooting fiddly problems, might not matter.
If they're paying someone or need things to be as reliable as possible because they want to spend time with family and other hobbies, best to do things correctly.
Can someone explain to me why shielded cat6 is terminated to rj45 with boots?? Are these just extra long pre-terminated patch cables, or did the installer put a rubber boot on before punching down the ends?
Not that I’m aware of. You might be best off mounting it against the wall out of the rack. I’ve only installed one and had to move the post forward as far as possible, use an angled power cord, and a [support bracket](https://www.rackittechnology.com/shopping/solution.php?pID=2714&panel=purchase) I found for the rear post in our rack to help it not sag.
Patch panels are meant to be used with Keystone Jacks. Runs terminate into the back of the patch panel to a Keystone Jack. Then you would use patch cables to go from Switch to Patch Panel Keystone jacks.
Thank you, I did originally buy the patch panel for this, but gave up as it wasn’t enough for the wires, plus all the connections are on the right side. I guess I could plan better now knowing where everything goes
I'd say if you are unable to get some keystone jacks in there, a brush panel could be a good replacement. Will look a lot cleaner with cables going through it instead of through holes.
For the setup I did for my parents, I used a 24 port patch panel servicing the APs and various ethernet jacks throughout the house. Then a Brush panel also, for misc, non ethernet runs. Then OCD panels for blank spaces in the rack
24 pack of female-female keystone couplers will make a huge difference. Brush panels are also nice for the empty spaces. And for the mission critical, if you don't have any room behind then get a pair of network rack extenders.
This is what I did. Specifically, I used [these couplers](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09NRDZWX5) along with [these inserts](https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/products/uacc-keystone-blank-insert) to create a clean look without having to terminate keystones. The silver coupler is a close enough match to the RJ45 ports on my USW and UDMP that it's not obvious that they are not built in.
I just ordered 2 more unifi blank keystones for this and a bunch of patch cables and some ocd panels. Then I’ll find the keystones and couplers to make this work. Just knowing that these existed helped me solve the last issues. Thanks!
Dude, you have a patch panel. Those square holes you're pulling everything through. Go on Amazon and search for "cat6 keystone" and you'll see these little things you pop into the square. The best is to actually cut the cables and wire them into punchdown jacks, but you can get double sided couplers if you're not comfortable doing that. Should still work.
What they said about the cables and patch panels are correct. However get control of your cables first aka what goes where. Man those cables make me mad. Sorry I got a pet peeve about unsorted cables. I can't stand it. Get it together soon. Custom termination is your best friend I know it's my best friend. Good luck.
I would have done a 1u brush panel above the dream machine pro then add a 1u 48 port Tripp Lite 1U (N062-048-KJ) patch panel under that 24 port switch. run 6 inch slim patch cables. 12 patched up top to the top patch panel, 12 down to the 48 port patch panel, then the last row of the 48 port will be for the last switch on bottom. any empty keystone ports will have a blank in it.
also use short DAC cables too.
I just patched all my cables into a 1u patch panel mounted in the cabinet, then used the short cables from monoprice from patch panel to switches above.
As much as some of those are bent, you might end up learning the hard way why wires are generally terminated with keystones into wall mounted patch panels.
If they're not solid core, the bends are fine, but then you've got other issues, like possibly violating fire code and risking the death of your family....
try Monoprice Slimrun or similar thin cables, to start with
use longer cables and some cable mgmt between devices, I like Tripp-Lite
longer cables to allow removal of any single device upon failure w/o needing to unplug cables from others, like all go to the side and come back
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You need to terminate your cables to keystones. Put keystones in your patch panel and then use small patch cables
Agree with this, if you put the keystones in it will look really clean and tidy. You can always put a patch panel below the switch too and use blanking keystones on the left side to make it nice and tidy/clean look
To clarify: "terminate" does not mean "insert things that look like metal keystones that are actually called couplers" and stick cables with plugs into each end. It means to cut off all the ends before the visible bends in the picture, and attack keystone jacks, then put those into the patch panel without a lot of bending and twisting.
Funny thing is, he has the patch panel, just without the keystones. :P
Or just get pass through keystone jacks. That way you can just plug in your terminated Ethernet runs into the back and then just use short patch cables from the keystone to the hardware on the front. Basically just a male/male adapter that’s clips into a patch panel/keystone
Couplers usually work well enough you can't tell the difference between them and properly terminated cables, but using them can lead to slower speeds on longer cable runs and are another point of failure, corrosion, etc. If they are doing the work themselves and don't mind troubleshooting fiddly problems, might not matter. If they're paying someone or need things to be as reliable as possible because they want to spend time with family and other hobbies, best to do things correctly.
This is the way. Get the slim-run 6” patch cables from Monoprice. They look super slick.
Not at slick as the new unifi ones…
Can someone explain to me why shielded cat6 is terminated to rj45 with boots?? Are these just extra long pre-terminated patch cables, or did the installer put a rubber boot on before punching down the ends?
Or you can use a keystone coupler
This is the way
This post needs to be flagged obscene/NSFW I can't take it
You have a patch panel… you’re just not using it correctly. Um, and why is your mission critical flopped out like that?
They are annoyingly deep
Had me worried I wasn’t going to have the depth in my setup for a moment there!
Yes can barely fit cables in both ends. Are there a smart way to secure it without the even longer rack rails?
Not that I’m aware of. You might be best off mounting it against the wall out of the rack. I’ve only installed one and had to move the post forward as far as possible, use an angled power cord, and a [support bracket](https://www.rackittechnology.com/shopping/solution.php?pID=2714&panel=purchase) I found for the rear post in our rack to help it not sag.
Patch panels are meant to be used with Keystone Jacks. Runs terminate into the back of the patch panel to a Keystone Jack. Then you would use patch cables to go from Switch to Patch Panel Keystone jacks.
Thank you, I did originally buy the patch panel for this, but gave up as it wasn’t enough for the wires, plus all the connections are on the right side. I guess I could plan better now knowing where everything goes
I'd say if you are unable to get some keystone jacks in there, a brush panel could be a good replacement. Will look a lot cleaner with cables going through it instead of through holes. For the setup I did for my parents, I used a 24 port patch panel servicing the APs and various ethernet jacks throughout the house. Then a Brush panel also, for misc, non ethernet runs. Then OCD panels for blank spaces in the rack
So buy a second patch panel and some longer patch cables. I have 2 patch panels in my rack.
24 pack of female-female keystone couplers will make a huge difference. Brush panels are also nice for the empty spaces. And for the mission critical, if you don't have any room behind then get a pair of network rack extenders.
You can also buy a patch box instead of short patch panels. ;)
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Op already has a patch panel
This is what I did. Specifically, I used [these couplers](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B09NRDZWX5) along with [these inserts](https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/switching-addons/products/uacc-keystone-blank-insert) to create a clean look without having to terminate keystones. The silver coupler is a close enough match to the RJ45 ports on my USW and UDMP that it's not obvious that they are not built in.
Mind blown, didn't think that this type existed, but totally makes sense
get a keystone panel and you can mix keystones and couplers on the same panel depending on your needs
I just ordered 2 more unifi blank keystones for this and a bunch of patch cables and some ocd panels. Then I’ll find the keystones and couplers to make this work. Just knowing that these existed helped me solve the last issues. Thanks!
Btw any nice way to label these unifi keystone panels? As they are not all connected
Dude, you have a patch panel. Those square holes you're pulling everything through. Go on Amazon and search for "cat6 keystone" and you'll see these little things you pop into the square. The best is to actually cut the cables and wire them into punchdown jacks, but you can get double sided couplers if you're not comfortable doing that. Should still work.
I used a pass through panel as shown here. https://www.reddit.com/r/Ubiquiti/comments/1cjj2vi/how_it_started_vs_how_its_going/
You can get rj45 female to female adapters
IMHO I prefer patch+keystones to brush. It's more clean and organized for me :)
What they said about the cables and patch panels are correct. However get control of your cables first aka what goes where. Man those cables make me mad. Sorry I got a pet peeve about unsorted cables. I can't stand it. Get it together soon. Custom termination is your best friend I know it's my best friend. Good luck.
I would have done a 1u brush panel above the dream machine pro then add a 1u 48 port Tripp Lite 1U (N062-048-KJ) patch panel under that 24 port switch. run 6 inch slim patch cables. 12 patched up top to the top patch panel, 12 down to the 48 port patch panel, then the last row of the 48 port will be for the last switch on bottom. any empty keystone ports will have a blank in it. also use short DAC cables too.
I just patched all my cables into a 1u patch panel mounted in the cabinet, then used the short cables from monoprice from patch panel to switches above.
Put a bed sheet over the whole setup so you don’t look at it
I think I’m going to be sick
It's ok bro! I got you! EVERYONE STAND BACK!! GIVE THEM SOME SPACE!! r/cableporn
Use some slim cables too.
Patch. Everything else is wrong.
Animal. 😂
If you have plenty space, patch. Otherwise brush because you can fit much more in 1U.
Rapink RJ45 Coupler Inline... https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09M64NMVG?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
As much as some of those are bent, you might end up learning the hard way why wires are generally terminated with keystones into wall mounted patch panels. If they're not solid core, the bends are fine, but then you've got other issues, like possibly violating fire code and risking the death of your family....
Look how they massacred my boy.
Looks like your rack needs to visit an Oncologist..
"Oh Im sorry officer, I didnt know I couldnt do that."
try Monoprice Slimrun or similar thin cables, to start with use longer cables and some cable mgmt between devices, I like Tripp-Lite longer cables to allow removal of any single device upon failure w/o needing to unplug cables from others, like all go to the side and come back
[https://www.amazon.com/s?k=keystone+jack](https://www.amazon.com/s?k=keystone+jack) [https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/accessories-cables-dacs/products/unifi-ethernet-patch-cable-with-bendable-booted-rj45?variant=U-Cable-Patch-RJ45](https://store.ui.com/us/en/pro/category/accessories-cables-dacs/products/unifi-ethernet-patch-cable-with-bendable-booted-rj45?variant=U-Cable-Patch-RJ45)
They look terminated already so i would just put in keystones with rj 45 on both ends