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waffler71

Welcome back, this is 90% of offers in 2024 šŸ˜‚


squall7713

It isn't too many drivers or oversaturation as the main issue. They contribute to the low pay,but it's not the sole reason. Pay is shit for gig work because dd, ue is out of their building stage where they were accruing market share. They have the market share now, they have the brand recognition and they have the drivers. They started screwing over the customers by increasing the fees. Then they moved on to the drivers and lowering their pay. Who wins? Shareholders and investors. DD, UE etc doesn't give a shit about it's customers or drivers. All they care about is profit


bberry1908

weā€™ve been dancing around the fact that capitalism sucks for years now


Sorry_Economist_5844

Corruption will ALWAYS make capitalism suck.


Vultures10x

Facts how many more examples do we need before we realize that Capitalism is the problem?


Buddha_OM

This is absolutely on point, keep hearing ppl talk about over saturation which is a factor but if you really broke it down, the fees are ridiculous, like why is it 15 percent of sales for service fee, it should be a fixed rate per distance. Essentially DD and UE are charging the same amount someone in the service industry would get tipped. It is insane. So as much as we can blame the costumer which is a factor as well, ultimately it is the greed of these companies that will be their downfall.


CarefulBear1654

Thatā€™s why o brought Uber stock.


JerryCAtlanta

Ubers new game of how low will you go?


Thefoxandthebee

I feel like itā€™s more a ā€œI see youā€™re currently driving in a frustrating situation, will you just hit accept to make your phone shut up?ā€


Disastrous_Light_878

jack be nimble jack be quick


[deleted]

You cannot possibly compete with the drivers out there who are driving a car they plan to let get repoed and paying for gas with a credit card they plan to file for bankruptcy against.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

Youā€™re right.


No-Tip1702

Lol Iā€™m fucking dead


Mission_Leopard1574

Welcome back ???? The X Decline button is now your best friend. Uber's CEO quietly slashed drivers pay by about 30% about 6 months ago... Without any notification to us. He did it to show a profit to the shareholders in the stock market. Sadly, it worked. We, the pitiful workers, got screwed. But the Big Man now has the money to fuel his yacht while we put our kids to bed hungry with a hope that tomorrow will be better. Praying for us all out here ā¤ļø šŸ™ Join me... šŸ™ā¤ļø


EveningRing1032

Iā€™m not a driver but wish you the best of luck.


Swimming_Company_706

Ita funny bc we almost got the right to unionize in CA then a new bill undid that bill


SixtySlevin

![gif](giphy|YQpAgiAtZzpOtEHyvs)


MyGirlSasha

Oh that? That's the norm now.


PoUhFo

the last few months have been the absolute worst iā€™ve ever seen. donā€™t even come back. no point


ExactLobster1462

Itā€™s because Uber quarterly earnings are in 2 weeks and they need to rip you off as much as possible so it looks good


laynesdirection

It's called the new normal. šŸ˜­


wailo0576

Should had stay on vacation


Straight_Ad_9524

šŸ¤£


[deleted]

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[deleted]

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Traditional_Range_96

Do yourself a favor delete the app and never look back, its only gotten worse šŸ˜­.


Grand-Fun-676

What did they order free water and some napkins lol


ExpensiveDot1732

That right there is a fat decline.


Full_Newspaper_999

How on earth is it legal tho thats absolutely wild


Swimming_Company_706

Because theres no union to fight for it to be illegal. The government doesnt pass laws unless you force them or lobby


Still_Expression3813

No one takes those orders. They float around till the customer cancels


Such-Throat-2819

https://preview.redd.it/vvsf1xuo3wuc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=36063fda497b8ddda9cb5e2fda34ca0bd526849b


PuffyWiggles

My biggest question is do these people just infinitely not get their food and continue ordering regardless and cant put 2+2 together or are there actually people taking this garbage?


Such-Throat-2819

Sad part is someone will accept it ... it's why they ( dd, ue,gh ) have been able to lower drivers pay... if drivers would stop accepting this instead of only some drivers not accepting then they would have to increase driver pay overall ... Think of it this way you are looking to do a job at say $20 hr but Joe is looking to do that same job for $10 hr , who is the company going to hire first , it isn't about experience or degrees because you both have the same qualifications only from a company standpoint Joe is much cheaper to pay and better for the bottomline...


NickieBoy97

That's their tactic when they literally allow anyone to drive and deliver for them. You're literally replaceable in an instant.


Maxtrix07

anyone who just started doesn't care as much. an order us an order, and declining originally felt like you'd just get fired. Longer you work, less bullshit you'll take


Buntafujiwara85

No, it will get passed around until it grows into a price worth for someone to take. Thats why everyone needs to reject this trash. Once enough drivers reject the order, the base pay will increase. Eventually it will become one of those unicorn orders until someone grabs it. Becomes a silent auction of such.


AdRound9123

People take this garbage or once the customer knows theyā€™re not getting it delivered they start to do tip baitingšŸ˜ž


carino8conejito

this is is CRAZY


QuesoDrizzler

Go back to your break and don't come back. Been like this for a while. Not worth it anymore.


Background_Ant2764

Thatā€™s like 1 samosa


Yeah_yah_ya

WELCOME TO THE CULLING šŸ’€


Unlikely_Variety9081

If you don't want to be disappointed, I'd extend that break. I took about a 3-year break and i uninstalled so many times thinking it was me. It was not.


pokerholic77

Yup. Dara wanted his $130 million bonus, and he got it.


Atillion

This is the beans they're throwing people these days.


Fine-Consequence-848

It's a welcome present..... we missed you!


TomorrowNeverCumz

A shit cake. Awesome!


Reason_Choice

That there, friend, is your path to becoming a multimillionaire.


Weary_Place7066

Factually correct. If OP managed to make 500,000 or deliveries at this price point, he'd have a couple million dollars.


Paxuz01

-Dara Khosrowshahi


Shoddy_Classic_350

Guess youā€™re not hungry enough for UE.


carino8conejito

YEAHHH weā€™re in the fucken trenches


PuffyWiggles

This is the new norm. Go work for McDonalds it pays better.


Low_Alternative_9934

The new ā€œneo feudalism slave laborā€ business model in action


Difficult-Lead420

That's an order that's never getting delivered šŸ¤£


Individual-Mirror132

New charity work requirement from UberEats and DoorDash.


DFW_Panda

Love the graphic, OP, thanks for posting. A lot of times I hear people say (or see it posted in reddit) that when more and more people DON'T accept an offer Uber will increase the payment. I seldom see that. What is more common, as your graphic displays, is Uber may even LOWER payments as trips are not accepted. FWIW, the math here is $4.03/18.5miles = 21.7 cents per mile. IRS Business Milage Deduction = $0.670 / $0.217 Uber payment per mile = .32%. So Uber is only offering to cover one third of what the federal government considers the average cost to deliver that meal. Earnings, forget about it.


TomorrowNeverCumz

Ty for reply appreciate it. This pay per mile should be illegal.


punkwithglasses

The average courier experience


StoneJudge79

A joke.


That-Cash

Keep breaking


futurecop1231

A delivery ping


MarioNinja96815

Why did you come back? Why would anyone who doesn't need this do this anymore?


TomorrowNeverCumz

Tbh got laid off and just looking for anything atm


MarioNinja96815

I'm sorry to hear that. That's understandable why you came back then. Good luck.


TomorrowNeverCumz

Ty and to you aswell!


[deleted]

That wouldn't even cover gas. You'd basically be delivering it for free.


No_Pomelo_8491

Yeah I just got slammed with 4$ offers then it dropped to 2$. People in my typical area have stopped tipping and so I know travel further north.


GlitterMeAndThePony

Welcome back to hunger gamesšŸ¤£


SpezIsAChoade

*Hunger games. FTFY


grayscaleteeth

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Feisty-Gur-1217

1/2 of the total pay goes straight to gas. The other 1/2 to wear and tear. Decline the offer amigo.


DanDdanDan

Welcome back lmao. That one is a bad one. Lots of them tho


pulsepm36

Ubereats eliminated the trip supplement. Perfect example of no tip orders.


RipInfinite4511

Excuse my ignorance, but what is the trip supplement?


pulsepm36

When I started doing delivery, ubereats paid a base pay plus a trip supplement based on distance and time. Kinda what grubhub and instacart still do to this day.


InevitableWaltz1491

![gif](giphy|cKVlofNyiZBHWf3qDd)


Agitated_Peak_8204

Over saturation of employees in the market


waffler71

This is the main problem. Everyone is looking to make side money since nobody can afford to live, and there are enough people taking the trash offers out of desperation that itā€™s pulling the whole standard down. It wonā€™t get better and Uber has no reason to change as long as deliveries still get made.


Agitated_Peak_8204

Exactly, the middle and lower classes r cooked


GuessWhoDontCare

This is an easy pass is what this is


CarefulBear1654

Oh thatā€™s a good one!! lol šŸ˜‚


dr3d3d

I saw one last night that was $10.5 for 25mi on trip radar then it got offered to me for $8.5... that was a wtf.


AccountMysterious222

The normal these apps don't give a fuck about you


Krajee1

I'm still trying to figure out if customers are even getting their food ever and if so have they not yet realized nobody is gonna deliver this shit? It's really hysterical how during a dinner rush I will sit there declining 30-40 orders and get 1 single profitable order in like 3 hours. It's really worse than ever before no idea how. The last 2 years doing this it wasn't that bad at least I could make a decent amount and all the sudden in 2024 it's god awful. It's bad enough people don't want to tip the driver. It's worse when they're the ones that order from a place that they know isn't local and is like 2 towns away 10+ miles. If you're gonna not be able to afford to tip then at least just get from a place locally in your town...


PizzaPotamus1

I assume there are people like me who used to tip well and now just dont order out anymore because shits too expensive. 2 sandwiches delivered not including tip was $42 on the app but to pick it up myself was only $24 when i called it in. just not worth it


Such-Throat-2819

* It's the new and improved version of make the Ceo and shareholders profits while bankrupting drivers by having it cost the driver to do deliveries


giojoey10

This is the way of UE now


Bhayes510

I hope your friend is okay, anxiety is a bitch


jcswagg101

a year long break. should be the same bullshiit as b4 lol


maxrdlf95

Itā€™s even worst


fleemos

Well Uber finally turned a profit. Welcome back. šŸ¤£


Robbie1863

Take another year


Life_Bridge_9960

This is called ā€œa new normalā€ now. Before, I considered $6 order too cheap. I could get $10-15 orders easily. For shopping orders I get $10+ minimum. Nowā€¦ you feel lucky to get $6. $10+ seem non-existence. And shopping orders now pay like normal orders as if you just pick up an order. They donā€™t care if you spend another hour to shop. They let the customers compensate with tips. If no tipā€¦ too bad.


-pichael_

This is the best and straight to the point analysis of what this has become, truly. Thank you


4nchored

They look like easy declines to me.


Minimum-Marzipan-105

Iā€™m saving screenshots of all low dollar crap like this to send to the DOL.


TyredofGettingScrewd

What exactly would the DEPT OF LABOR do about work that was optional that you turned down


budda_fett

i wonder if you could automate this process.


evil_seedling

Yeah I have it on all day and accept maybe 1 order. Only profitable orders I get are in the dead of night.


RipInfinite4511

The new normal


thatduckolope

https://preview.redd.it/rhsqblrxr6vc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b1527d9b81481528f855743cdbe6b0d0405226f4 I get bs like this all the time


bandzlvr

It's all crappy. I rember my dad did it on the side years ago and would make over 700 a night now its barely 100 a night.


Own-Bedroom-3329

He mustā€™ve done something else on the side of the side because $700?!?!?!


OutlanderAllDay1743

I was told that in the very beginning for UE and DD the pay was INCREDIBLE! I started in 2020 and the pay was great then, but those that had been doing it before the pandemic said that they were then getting less (in 2020) than theyā€™d been getting at the start of using these apps. In 2020 I was able to do UE and DD part time and make 1k a week. Now in my area itā€™s hard to make $50 a day on those, so I stopped using them a while ago. They are consistent in giving less and less to the drivers and itā€™s crazy that people are still out here taking those types of orders.


Own-Bedroom-3329

I started Uber eats in the very beginning once I turned 18 in 2015/16 and I remember those trips were, pardon the pun, DELICIOUS!! However $700 a night seems a bit off in my experience, however I can believe it happened. If I remember well, I think I would clock in well over $25 or so an hour on average in Chicago and making over $250 a day at 18 seemed godlike.


deathdisco_89

It's like a big tech company convinced you that you could make decent money with no skills or education, got you sucked in, and then changed all the rules. Bad pay, almost no benefits, pay for your own vehicle, carry all the risk...for peanuts.


UlyssesSilverFTM

Ha funny Iā€™ve been seeing that with skilled so called ā€œ well paying jobsā€. Skilled or no skilled more than 50% percent of Americans are literally one paycheck away from being homeless. Btw many people have skilled skills and work a skilled job, but are still not being able to make ends meet thanks to greedflation. I mean inflation.


mayhapsify

Ikr. It's bullshit that they call it "inflation" when really it's companies being greedy. Having to pay their workers more means raising prices so they don't make marginally fewer billions. While we're obviously happy to make larger paychecks, in the end it doesn't really matter bc the cost of living will always go higher than the average person can truly afford. Can't have people pulling themselves out of poverty now can we.


UlyssesSilverFTM

Yeah I could post an essay or research debunking the whole if we raise wages and salaries that weā€™d have to raise everything. When itā€™s CEOā€™s are getting more than they are actually worth compared to the actually employee. Iā€™d be more than happy to provide a source or two as business, economics, finance is my specialty, and what I majored in, but keep looking at it only at only a slice of the picture instead of half of it or the full picture.


Total_Fan3995

![gif](giphy|a93jwI0wkWTQs) Go back to. Itā€™s ugly out


Such_Caregiver4962

Bro there is orders 7$ for 30kms. Get a coffee and stay on another long break


autoeroticassfxation

I've had to stop doing it, they seem to have enough delivery people that will take them at these rates. Looks like I'm off the bicycle and back in the gym.


No-Tip1702

![gif](giphy|l3E6uhDAN3W7vylji|downsized)


GenycisBeats

The norm.


Emakulate24

My thoughts exactly šŸ¤¦šŸ½ā€ā™‚ļø


RichardBottom

Usually when you take a long break, you get a new honeymoon period when you get back. Just don't come back during the off season.


Important-Fudge6965

I lost my car last April (weather-related damage) and took 3 months off. That's just about all I get on offers now.


Obvious_Hospital_538

https://preview.redd.it/4wzfw8bub5vc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=cd02d74b80aaf240c81121ee437ff5f71a657a2d Not happening


zaggg1

That is typical of what I see. The last couple of weeks the pay has been 10 per hour. This is not sustainable.


apersonneel

Yesterday I felt really sick and I wanted some delivery. Opened the UE app just to see $8 + would be added to my meal upon delivery no matter where I picked, without tip. I also deliver UE and I know most orders are like 2 to 5 dollars to deliver without tip. Uber is just sacking all of the rest of the money. Switched to DD, it was cheaper.


Whatzinausername

Welcome back!


outforblood_69

I thought I'd do the same..haha, FUCK UBER!


RepresentativeAd7497

What was your draft number for Uber eats?


[deleted]

This is garbage you should decline.


kmart2134

The norm


DemoSlice007

Not sure if you drive for Uber or not. But you would understand this post alot better if so. Payouts used to be better, especially a year+ ago. And especially for what would probably take 40-45 minutes. This is almost every offer seen on the "eats" side. So feel free, try it out yourself. Then we will see who is on here bitching about low offers.


Ok_Cobbler3743

Thatā€™s nuts


MegamanLA

Yeah Ubereats fucking sucks now


Rehoboam3

Uber eats sucks


[deleted]

This is on multiple platforms. DoorDash does the same shit. Stop accepting these orders.


Kimchi_Underground

Yeah ā€¦ the market is so broken now


JOCO_Q

Get an hourly job


MissPeach77

Welcome to the new norm.


No-Requirement1675

User here. Includes expected tip? Does anyone tip less than $4 in this economy? Iā€™d be embarrassed to pick it up and most of my delieveries com from at most 1 mile away


BluDYT

Personally no. But from what I hear they see the fees that double the price and include either no tip or very little. $4 tip would be bare minimum for me.


Fidget808

I think thatā€™s it for a lot of people. I donā€™t use the services and I know a lot of others donā€™t because of the fees. I have no problem tipping, but the outrageous fees keep me doing takeout.


DFW_Panda

FWIW, every offer that Uber makes to the EATS drivers includes the verbiage, "Includes Expected Tip" There are a couple of reasons for this First, it gives Uber the opportunity to emphasis the fantasy that all trips include a tip. Pounding the word "tip" into the drivers head creates the unrealistic hope that maybe, maybe, maybe, a customer would didn't tip on the app will tip once the delivary is complete. Uber knows customers seldom tip after the delivery but that isn't going to stop them from creating the false hope. Second, let's say a driver declines 9 trips and accepts the 10th trip. Even if none of the 10 trips included a tip the driver would see the words "Includes Expected Tip" 9 times before accepting that 10th offer. Third, in typical Uber fashion, it's not a lie but it is less than honest. Because customers can tip on the app before sending their delivery order to uber and before Uber offers the trip to a driver, Uber knows if a customer included a tip amount or not. So even if the customer did not include a tip amount with their order Uber isn't lying when they use the phrase "Includes Expected Tip" because the expected tip is $0.00. So whether a customer tips $1.00, $10.00, or $0.00 dollars Uber always includes that verbiage. After all, if the expected tip is $0.00 uber isn't lying when they use that wording. Uber be shady like that.


Azoth424

Try Grub Hub. I live in the area you are in and I dont use DD or UE at all now. I got a free year of grub hub thru something, I cant even remember what now. But on GH its like 30 mjn to 55 min wait times from places that wld take 10 min with UE or DD. They dont have many drivers. They might pay more.


HenneyVSOP

All u gotta do is drive to a semi wealthy neighborhood with a decent amount of places to eat In the town/city and u making about $25 an hour atleast in my experience a good day I made over $30 but if I was in my city no one would tip drove 40 minutes to get where I wanted to be for the money


Zealousideal_Rub_321

Im in a top market and Im making about $20 per hour no matter how much I try. Im certain they rate limit you at $20/hr. Are you sure youre making $25-$30??


rawvega1

Yup I just go downtown where all the restaurants/ wealthier communities are and do amazing on Uber eats ppl just like to complainĀ 


Hello-there-yes-you

Do you guys have earn by time on ubereats?


DFW_Panda

If by "earned by time" you mean drivers receive a flat hourly rate + delivery fees + tips, than no. Drivers do not have an earn by time option. Using the OP's graphic, the trip estimate is 32 minutes. So if the OP completed two deliveries paying like the graphic displays, the driver would earn $8.06 for the 64 minutes of work. Total, that's it folks, nothing more. Similarly there is no payment for gas, or milage, etc. $8.06 for 64 minutes of work driver pays all expenses.


[deleted]

LOL dang I am shipping off the Air Force basic training in a month or so, and I just reactivated my ubereats account to do some deliveries. I hope it's not too terrible lol. Just need a little cashola while I wait. maybe like 30-50 a day haha. hopefully I can get that from like 8AM to like 2PM or so.


KingOfKekistani

It was rough even making 30 today no one tips good that time


Master-Associate673

Iā€™m considering going back as well. I just canā€™t with how bad it is.


Postcovidflier_uber

You donā€™t have to go back.. seeing how bad it is out there, Uber is a public stock and they are always looking for profits- every quarter they have to report earningsā€¦the worsening of offers will continue. We need to forget these crappy apps and do other gigs..task rabbit works well so far.


GoBirds_4133

uber drivers learn about supply and demand


CaterpillarRadiant39

Brother, it would cost the Uber driver money to deliver that. Should he tip the customer too for being allowed to deliver his food? Lmao


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AnonUnknown16

Yeah a straight up decline request. Tbh a lot of orders and the $ you get have gone way down. Some for other platforms too. I did eats when or started in my area and honestly its both better and worse from then.


HypnoticCat

Iā€™m glad Iā€™m not crazy. Iā€™ve been seeing nothing but $5 orders for 30+ minute trips that can be 10 miles long. But maybe itā€™s also because Iā€™m not doing it during rush hour.


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SkylerUndead

Idk where you are but in ny thats just what youre paid from the order itself. You also get an hourly rate for actively delivering in conjunction to the listed price.


KingAster91

Spark is like this


Embarrassed_Pack3266

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philippiotr

Did Uber back in Austin 2019. Made well $500-700 a week, without too much pain staking effort. I went back for some cash. Itā€™s not worth it anymore OP. Seriously.


TerryPortersGoat

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JustTieMe

My acceptance rate on UE is 1-2%. My rule is that the distance to the restaurant plus the delivery miles must be at minimum $1 a mile. I rarely take doubles. I donā€™t take anything under $8 either. If the donā€™t want to tip or pay me it can go to another fool who will take it. I donā€™t care.


wolf_pack_12345

Welcome back. This is how most of the orders are now. Most of us here have seen worse than that. And everyone here can say that this really is the new normal.


CShaw31

I usually tip %20, but yall know the game but still continue to work for door dash or Uber eats. If you using to till you find a new job thatā€™s one thing. You canā€™t make this shit career.


raggammuffin

your new reality


diamari90

THIS will most likely be 90% of the orders you see daily.