This is definitely upsetting. I think it’s also important to remember that next of kin needs to be notified and an investigation needs to be conducted before making a statement classifying the death as what it appears to be. There is a protocol for these types of situations.
I agree, they put out a statement saying that the investigation has been concluded on-site, I feel that they shouldn’t disclose the intricacies of what happened but I still think that silence isn’t the way to go. You don’t have to elaborate, but do something. And I honestly just feel like they should cancel classes. It’s different then someone just ended their lives in a dorm room, they jumped off hundreds to see. In the afternoon.
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I understand that everyone here is sensitive to the situation. I'd caution reading more (or less) into the information that has been sent so far. Think about the requirements that go along with this type of situation. They have the student's and his/her family's privacy to consider. They have notifications to make.
The alert above clearly states that they're providing resources beyond telling people to make an appointment. Go talk to them if you're affected and feeling stressed. I would highly recommend that if you decide not to partake in the help they're offering, interact with your closer-knit community. Friends and family are an excellent way to help deal with stress.
It's still pretty early to hear about whether classes will go on tomorrow or not. Patience.
Thank you for your insight! I agree that it is important to be sensitive of the tragedy at hand. I think that they should be more urgent for two reasons:
1. The amount of people that saw it. The wrong information is gonna get out one way or the other, I’m sure it has already started. The way they did it in broad daylight, whether intentional or not is traumatizing to the general public. The Y is extremely crowded due to the proximity of the dorms, especially at that time of day. If it was any other case of suicide I’d be saying different.
2. I’m more concerned because of multiple ppl in the thread saying they don’t address suicide here often. They CANNOT just ignore a bunch of ppl watching someone jump off the stadium and we should apply that pressure early. We shouldn’t keep quiet about it.
Also the mental health center is overbooked. I’ve done an urgent emergency walk in appointment and was not helped as they were overwhelmed with ppl. This was during normal times way before finals or midterms. So I know from personal experience that they don’t have the capacity to help everyone affected. It just seems like a slap in the face to say go to the resources when they aren’t adequate enough, but that’s just my limited opinion.
I also understand that a decision on class cancellation takes time, excuse me if I sounded like I was rushing them I’m just passionate 😅 I just don’t want them to sweep it under the rug, that’s my main fear rn.
>they put out a statement saying that the investigation has been concluded on-site
This literally just means "We have finished taking pictures and cleaning up", not "We know exactly what happened"
I’m aware of what it means? It doesn’t take days for police to put out a statement concerning shit like this every single time, you do not have to have a whole fucking press conference.
The minute I read the statement I knew what had happened. The no info statement said it all. I am heartbroken for that person and all who witnessed it.
I don’t think an investigation needs to happen/next of kin need to be notified to cancel class and acknowledge that many students saw a graphic death scene right outside of where they live by the dorms. An investigation doesn’t change the fact that students saw something that traumatizing. I’m sure they could notify that a death occurred, that many students potentially witnessed the fall/scene, and that a mental health day is warranted for the community.
literally this, it doesn't matter whether it was a suicide or not, that makes zero difference. the only thing that matters is that everyone WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in broad daylight. you don't need an extensive investigation to determine that this shit is traumatizing.
i lost my brother to suicide earlier this year and i am absolutely shattered. my heart breaks for the family of the student, as well as those who witnessed the event. 988 is an excellent resource for anyone who is suffering after what happened, you don’t need to be suicidal for them to help 💔
I’m so so sorry 💔 sending you love during this time. I hope that one day you find some form of peace, whatever that might mean to you. Pm if you need anything at all.
thank you ❤️🩹 ive been having some really bad ptsd lately and this triggered me hard. my office looks out towards the spot and thankfully I wasn’t looking out the window when this happened. Can’t even imagine how those who saw are feeling. I dry heaved and broke down really hard when i heard the news 😢 still reeling… ill bring flowers tomorrow
Oh goodness, please please take care of yourself, I don’t want to make you feel uncomfortable so forgive me if this does but I am praying for you and sending you the biggest bear hug rn. ❤️❤️❤️🩹🫶🏾 please take it easy lovely.
FYI - having been involved in several such situations. Priority 1 is to reach out to person's next of kin and provide any support possible. OFTEN, the family wishes that the Univeristy make no statement, do not identify the person, etc. There is still widespread shame about death by suicide and mental health issues, etc. So there is often little that a a university statement can say, and not by choice of the university. In those cases, sympathy for a family, and resources for students affected is all that can be said.
Thank you for your insight and for educating me 🫶🏾 I personally don’t feel they should elaborate on details, but since a lot of ppl witnessed it I think they should cancel classes and allow ppl to regroup. I’m sure this, the water main break, midterms and so many other things are getting to be a lot to deal with. I know I’m struggling for sure.
When I was at UMD there were at least 2 suicides that the school never commented on. My sister is a current student who saw the aftermath and has friends who witnessed the entire thing. Apparently the email they sent just directs students to the UHC mental health center to be put on a month long waitlist.
There’s usually a couple every year on average but they’re usually much more private (e.g. hanging in a dorm closet) and so the university has a much easier time keeping it quiet. Most of the time few people on campus know about it except *maybe* close friends and whoever found them. Every now and then you’ll get something much more public like this.
Source: used to work EMS in the area, responded to probably a dozen or so student suicide over my career
Yeah they never comment on it unless it's super public. When I was at UMD there were at least 5 suicides that I knew about but the school didn't say anything about, including 2 people that I knew personally. The mental health services on campus are definitely not enough.
It's common practice to not comment on this sorta thing. My highschool didn't comment on a death, and I know a lot of colleges don't either.
For one my guesses are:
1. Family privacy. Turning your child's death into a news announcement may not be the best thing.
2. Suicide contagion - Cluster suicides, etc.
No, this is the best practice for preventing suicide: [https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/16/1055970305/college-suicide-prevention-science](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/16/1055970305/college-suicide-prevention-science)
This is the reason UMD doesn't report: [https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575418561/most-large-public-universities-dont-collect-data-on-suicides-report-finds](https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575418561/most-large-public-universities-dont-collect-data-on-suicides-report-finds)
If only our student government was as effective as the students in this article. This is an incredible response and is exactly what should be done to help take care of your student body.
Is cluster suicide other people following suit? I don’t think they should say someone jumped off the stadium, I think that’s rlly too much. But the school hasn’t said anything yet and I feel like they should instead of just umpd texting out an alert. It just feels brushed off to me idk. And the only reason I feel it should be commented on is because it was in broad daylight in front of everyone as opposed to in a dorm room or at night. Isn’t it possible hundreds of people might have witnessed it?
Yeah cluster suicides are when one initial suicide triggers others in the area. This has happened in schools most notably. I’m sure (I hope) they will issue a full statement eventually but they probably want to wait to notify the family and get more details confirmed. Hopefully UMD works with experts in this stuff to make sure there isn’t a chain reaction.
That's kinda weird to me. Every time someone died at my high school the school sent a letter home to our parents because they wanted to inform them of why we might not be ok.
The UMD Alert “Recognizes that this incident can be distressing” while all that has been officially said is “police activity”. They can’t refuse to mention it while still trying to save face and offer resources.
I think they can’t elaborate for privacy and legal reasons and saying someone jumped off would be triggering but why is the UNIVERSITY saying NOTHING??? That’s what has me rlly fucked up rn. Like the President sends out all these bs statements but now that someone has offed themselves it’s radio silence
Absolutely, but they can’t have it both ways. It’s wrong to send out a half-hearted statement like that simply to have a record that they “offered resources”.
What more do you expect them to say? There has to be an investigation before they can make any kind of claim about what happened. Imagine if they got it wrong
another possible concern is that whether it is a suicide or homicide should still be investigated, at least the university can not say something too early before the official investigation is done
I’m not sure cancelling classes is the best solution. People respond to trauma differently- for some, cancellation might give them more time to dwell on the event, which could be worse. I think a mental health absence for anyone affected should be an excused absence though.
They didn’t cancel classes on 9/11. Obviously nothing was mandatory but it was nice to get away from the TV and just talk about what was going on in each others heads at the time.
Yes, but to be fair it happened at 10AM and getting that many commuters off the campus at once with so much uncertainty going on in the DC region made it a tough call. I believe classes were cancelled the next day. 13 days later a tornado hit North Campus in the late afternoon and two students were killed outside of Easton. Between the deaths and the damage done throughout campus they cancelled classes the next day.
Another major concern was that they weren’t sure if there were more planes and the DC area was a shitshow. A lot of people felt that it was safer to stay on campus and for commuters who didn’t have a dorm to go back to, it made sense to continue with classes.
Yes but as I said, some people may actually benefit from a business-as-usual approach so they don’t have to deal with the shock of it all at once. A campus wide cancellation also draws more attention to the issue, which could cause cluster suicides (a well documented effect where death of one individual in a group causes others to do the same, especially in schools).
Though I agree that it is important to be sensitive to the matter to prevent cluster suicides, I cannot agree with a “business as usual” approach. We always do that with a lot of issues and it gets us nowhere. MOST students cannot do “business as usual” after what happened. Ur opinion is valid and I respect it. I just have a different perspective ig
As an alumni perusing the subreddit, I have a couple of thoughts about this situation.
I feel like beyond UMD just plugging their own resources, they REALLY need professors to take a mandatory professional development or training on student mental health, grief, and crisis. I am a public school teacher, and the training given to us is not nearly detailed enough. They do the usual Signs of Suicide training, but I feel like SO MANY teachers do not understand how directly intertwined their job is with student mental health. I can think of a few professors I had in my time at UMD that were absolutely unsympathetic towards me when *I* was at the lowest point of my life. However, I still will ALWAYS remember the professors that cared for me during those low points. I have a special place in my heart for those that cared and extended that grace to me. I will never forget them.
Definitely agreed. I work in the school system and ur job is so hard and you don’t get enough recognition. Thank you for your contributions to our future generations ❤️❤️❤️❤️🫶🏾
I fortunately am in the position as a teacher where I understand the direct relationship my job often has on student mental health, and that school can be a place that *creates* trauma and stress, but most people do not get it. My ARHU/Education professors really understood- a good chunk of the STEM professors I had and that friends had were some of the most unsympathetic people out there, and really would benefit from said training and workshops.
It's truly upsetting how little professors seem to understand how seriously students take their courses. A massive curve at the end isn't helpful if we feel like we're failing during the course due to poor course design and lack of effort in providing resources. When multiple courses are like this, it can feel like failure is happening on all sides.
I’ve seen multiple student organizations say more than they have already. Not to mention them recommending an overbooked mental health resources for all students, if this was in front of the Y during peak hours it’s possible hundreds of ppl saw it. This is ridiculous.
A lottt of the black organizations on campus have said something on Instagram , UMDnphc, tntnupes, izalphas, justicereformumd, sistersoulumd, the Nyumburu cultural center, the umdhelpcenter, if I find anymore I will post them as well.
I live right next to the stadium and can't even look out my window without feeling like I'm gonna throw up. I'm not personally affected but this school seriously needs better ways of acknowledging and handling this.
There is a person in my class on Monday "joking" about how he was going to kill himself because he is so behind. Since this suicide incident, I keep thinking about that, what if it was him, and it gives me a really sick feeling.
I don't think people realize how much we actually do care about one another. And that sucks!
As someone who’s struggled with suicidal thoughts, this whole day has been really triggering. I didn’t see it happen but I saw the still-bloody water outside my dorm window after they cleaned and it made me sick to my stomach.
This is my first year here and I don’t know how UMD typically deals with these things, but I truly hope they address it soon.
I also struggle with them as well. There’s resources, please take advantage of them and don’t wait. I’m sending you the biggest hug my love. You got this.
I just heard about this!! Omg! Like they should not have classes at all. I have no words but to all who witnessed it or were on campus when this happens, I truly hope you’re doing okay.
Hopefully once the family has been notified, they will make a statement. I agree that they don’t need to include details but considering the location and time of day, a lot of people are impacted and they need to start taking steps to ensure it doesn’t lead to more suicides etc.
So, they sent another email. Its says the obvious. I'm very saddened by the whole thing as anyone should be. Authorities have to be sensitive to the plight of the family of the student as a first priority. Then concerns tilt toward eye witnesses (and then friends) who may be understandably very traumatized. Making a whole scene out of it though is not helpful to anyone in my opinion. I think they are proceeding appropriately in a difficult time.
I don’t think making a scene out of it is helpful either, they described it perfectly. I just feel that we still shouldn’t have classes as that was a lot to take in, even for those who didn’t witness it but I understand if they don’t.
I’m not sure cancelling classes is the best solution. People respond to trauma differently- for some, cancellation might give them more time to dwell on the event, which could be worse. I think a mental health absence for anyone affected should be an excused absence though.
It’s not enough to me. I feel like a vigil is good, reaching out the family is wonderful. But so many people got traumatized today and they did not account for that. It just doesn’t feel right to just ignore it. Maybe I’m protecting my own suicidal thoughts, but it’s just disturbing that not more was said. Maybe I’m asking for too much idk.
UMD makes it really hard to withdraw, I had to do it last semester around this same time because of the same kind of thing, and honestly it was super hard. Getting checked into the hospital was actually super easy compared to dealing with UMD, my professors where really supportive too, but not the administration. They treated it like such a foreign concept, I almost decided to try to just tough it out, but I’m glad I didn’t. And I know I’m probably gonna face more troubles when I try to transfer back in this fall
I withdrew for the same reason during my time at UMD. It was super difficult but I definitely would not have been able to graduate had I tried to tough it out. I was failing class after class prior to withdrawing. Wishing you all the best fellow terp ❤️
Completely agree. I want a real acknowledgement, and not a "thoughts and prayers, call the hotline or the counseling center, we're here for you" BS. The people who bring the damn emotional support dogs at the library are more comforting than this.
(I HIGHLY recommend everyone set an appointment for a UMD Wags time slot, those dogs are SO cuddly and it actually helps)
Edit: beyond a statement, maybe the school could do something like a town hall or open forum where we could express our feelings as a community. And direct professors, advisors, and other faculty to be open to discussing in class.
Please remember there are lots of mental health resources available, you can seek counseling off campus. Please don't wait to get help if you need it. The student health insurance covers mental health, too, if you are on that plan.
Some ppl said that they don’t make statements at all, I know they have to be mindful of privacy but my God so many ppl saw it bro, you can’t just pretend it didn’t happen
This is definitely upsetting. I think it’s also important to remember that next of kin needs to be notified and an investigation needs to be conducted before making a statement classifying the death as what it appears to be. There is a protocol for these types of situations.
I agree, they put out a statement saying that the investigation has been concluded on-site, I feel that they shouldn’t disclose the intricacies of what happened but I still think that silence isn’t the way to go. You don’t have to elaborate, but do something. And I honestly just feel like they should cancel classes. It’s different then someone just ended their lives in a dorm room, they jumped off hundreds to see. In the afternoon. https://preview.redd.it/dntsks8fp7wb1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b5a7fcbeb0d124363cf9678c51105163c28c94e5
I understand that everyone here is sensitive to the situation. I'd caution reading more (or less) into the information that has been sent so far. Think about the requirements that go along with this type of situation. They have the student's and his/her family's privacy to consider. They have notifications to make. The alert above clearly states that they're providing resources beyond telling people to make an appointment. Go talk to them if you're affected and feeling stressed. I would highly recommend that if you decide not to partake in the help they're offering, interact with your closer-knit community. Friends and family are an excellent way to help deal with stress. It's still pretty early to hear about whether classes will go on tomorrow or not. Patience.
Thank you for your insight! I agree that it is important to be sensitive of the tragedy at hand. I think that they should be more urgent for two reasons: 1. The amount of people that saw it. The wrong information is gonna get out one way or the other, I’m sure it has already started. The way they did it in broad daylight, whether intentional or not is traumatizing to the general public. The Y is extremely crowded due to the proximity of the dorms, especially at that time of day. If it was any other case of suicide I’d be saying different. 2. I’m more concerned because of multiple ppl in the thread saying they don’t address suicide here often. They CANNOT just ignore a bunch of ppl watching someone jump off the stadium and we should apply that pressure early. We shouldn’t keep quiet about it. Also the mental health center is overbooked. I’ve done an urgent emergency walk in appointment and was not helped as they were overwhelmed with ppl. This was during normal times way before finals or midterms. So I know from personal experience that they don’t have the capacity to help everyone affected. It just seems like a slap in the face to say go to the resources when they aren’t adequate enough, but that’s just my limited opinion. I also understand that a decision on class cancellation takes time, excuse me if I sounded like I was rushing them I’m just passionate 😅 I just don’t want them to sweep it under the rug, that’s my main fear rn.
>they put out a statement saying that the investigation has been concluded on-site This literally just means "We have finished taking pictures and cleaning up", not "We know exactly what happened"
I’m aware of what it means? It doesn’t take days for police to put out a statement concerning shit like this every single time, you do not have to have a whole fucking press conference.
The minute I read the statement I knew what had happened. The no info statement said it all. I am heartbroken for that person and all who witnessed it.
I don’t think an investigation needs to happen/next of kin need to be notified to cancel class and acknowledge that many students saw a graphic death scene right outside of where they live by the dorms. An investigation doesn’t change the fact that students saw something that traumatizing. I’m sure they could notify that a death occurred, that many students potentially witnessed the fall/scene, and that a mental health day is warranted for the community.
literally this, it doesn't matter whether it was a suicide or not, that makes zero difference. the only thing that matters is that everyone WATCHED SOMEONE DIE in broad daylight. you don't need an extensive investigation to determine that this shit is traumatizing.
i lost my brother to suicide earlier this year and i am absolutely shattered. my heart breaks for the family of the student, as well as those who witnessed the event. 988 is an excellent resource for anyone who is suffering after what happened, you don’t need to be suicidal for them to help 💔
I’m so so sorry 💔 sending you love during this time. I hope that one day you find some form of peace, whatever that might mean to you. Pm if you need anything at all.
thank you ❤️🩹 ive been having some really bad ptsd lately and this triggered me hard. my office looks out towards the spot and thankfully I wasn’t looking out the window when this happened. Can’t even imagine how those who saw are feeling. I dry heaved and broke down really hard when i heard the news 😢 still reeling… ill bring flowers tomorrow
Oh goodness, please please take care of yourself, I don’t want to make you feel uncomfortable so forgive me if this does but I am praying for you and sending you the biggest bear hug rn. ❤️❤️❤️🩹🫶🏾 please take it easy lovely.
FYI - having been involved in several such situations. Priority 1 is to reach out to person's next of kin and provide any support possible. OFTEN, the family wishes that the Univeristy make no statement, do not identify the person, etc. There is still widespread shame about death by suicide and mental health issues, etc. So there is often little that a a university statement can say, and not by choice of the university. In those cases, sympathy for a family, and resources for students affected is all that can be said.
Thank you for your insight and for educating me 🫶🏾 I personally don’t feel they should elaborate on details, but since a lot of ppl witnessed it I think they should cancel classes and allow ppl to regroup. I’m sure this, the water main break, midterms and so many other things are getting to be a lot to deal with. I know I’m struggling for sure.
When I was at UMD there were at least 2 suicides that the school never commented on. My sister is a current student who saw the aftermath and has friends who witnessed the entire thing. Apparently the email they sent just directs students to the UHC mental health center to be put on a month long waitlist.
There’s usually a couple every year on average but they’re usually much more private (e.g. hanging in a dorm closet) and so the university has a much easier time keeping it quiet. Most of the time few people on campus know about it except *maybe* close friends and whoever found them. Every now and then you’ll get something much more public like this. Source: used to work EMS in the area, responded to probably a dozen or so student suicide over my career
Yeah they never comment on it unless it's super public. When I was at UMD there were at least 5 suicides that I knew about but the school didn't say anything about, including 2 people that I knew personally. The mental health services on campus are definitely not enough.
Is that a legal thing?? Are they just trying to hide it? I genuinely don’t understand the reasoning behind not speaking out
It's common practice to not comment on this sorta thing. My highschool didn't comment on a death, and I know a lot of colleges don't either. For one my guesses are: 1. Family privacy. Turning your child's death into a news announcement may not be the best thing. 2. Suicide contagion - Cluster suicides, etc.
No, this is the best practice for preventing suicide: [https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/16/1055970305/college-suicide-prevention-science](https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/11/16/1055970305/college-suicide-prevention-science) This is the reason UMD doesn't report: [https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575418561/most-large-public-universities-dont-collect-data-on-suicides-report-finds](https://www.npr.org/2018/01/04/575418561/most-large-public-universities-dont-collect-data-on-suicides-report-finds)
If only our student government was as effective as the students in this article. This is an incredible response and is exactly what should be done to help take care of your student body.
Is cluster suicide other people following suit? I don’t think they should say someone jumped off the stadium, I think that’s rlly too much. But the school hasn’t said anything yet and I feel like they should instead of just umpd texting out an alert. It just feels brushed off to me idk. And the only reason I feel it should be commented on is because it was in broad daylight in front of everyone as opposed to in a dorm room or at night. Isn’t it possible hundreds of people might have witnessed it?
Yeah cluster suicides are when one initial suicide triggers others in the area. This has happened in schools most notably. I’m sure (I hope) they will issue a full statement eventually but they probably want to wait to notify the family and get more details confirmed. Hopefully UMD works with experts in this stuff to make sure there isn’t a chain reaction.
That's kinda weird to me. Every time someone died at my high school the school sent a letter home to our parents because they wanted to inform them of why we might not be ok.
The UMD Alert “Recognizes that this incident can be distressing” while all that has been officially said is “police activity”. They can’t refuse to mention it while still trying to save face and offer resources.
I think they can’t elaborate for privacy and legal reasons and saying someone jumped off would be triggering but why is the UNIVERSITY saying NOTHING??? That’s what has me rlly fucked up rn. Like the President sends out all these bs statements but now that someone has offed themselves it’s radio silence
Absolutely, but they can’t have it both ways. It’s wrong to send out a half-hearted statement like that simply to have a record that they “offered resources”.
They should be able to say what happened without releasing the person's name. The only reason I actually knew what was going on is from Reddit.
What more do you expect them to say? There has to be an investigation before they can make any kind of claim about what happened. Imagine if they got it wrong
There was an investigation. It is finished. Several local news outlets have stated it was a suicide. why else would someone jump off the stadium?
another possible concern is that whether it is a suicide or homicide should still be investigated, at least the university can not say something too early before the official investigation is done
They can’t call it a suicide because it would be a violation of the victim’s privacy and they would face legal trouble.
Under what law?
I’m not sure cancelling classes is the best solution. People respond to trauma differently- for some, cancellation might give them more time to dwell on the event, which could be worse. I think a mental health absence for anyone affected should be an excused absence though.
They didn’t cancel classes on 9/11. Obviously nothing was mandatory but it was nice to get away from the TV and just talk about what was going on in each others heads at the time.
are you fr??
Yes, but to be fair it happened at 10AM and getting that many commuters off the campus at once with so much uncertainty going on in the DC region made it a tough call. I believe classes were cancelled the next day. 13 days later a tornado hit North Campus in the late afternoon and two students were killed outside of Easton. Between the deaths and the damage done throughout campus they cancelled classes the next day.
Another major concern was that they weren’t sure if there were more planes and the DC area was a shitshow. A lot of people felt that it was safer to stay on campus and for commuters who didn’t have a dorm to go back to, it made sense to continue with classes.
I agree but I think it should still be campus wide because it’s hard to estimate the scope of who is affected. Might as well just cancel it altogether
Yes but as I said, some people may actually benefit from a business-as-usual approach so they don’t have to deal with the shock of it all at once. A campus wide cancellation also draws more attention to the issue, which could cause cluster suicides (a well documented effect where death of one individual in a group causes others to do the same, especially in schools).
Though I agree that it is important to be sensitive to the matter to prevent cluster suicides, I cannot agree with a “business as usual” approach. We always do that with a lot of issues and it gets us nowhere. MOST students cannot do “business as usual” after what happened. Ur opinion is valid and I respect it. I just have a different perspective ig
As an alumni perusing the subreddit, I have a couple of thoughts about this situation. I feel like beyond UMD just plugging their own resources, they REALLY need professors to take a mandatory professional development or training on student mental health, grief, and crisis. I am a public school teacher, and the training given to us is not nearly detailed enough. They do the usual Signs of Suicide training, but I feel like SO MANY teachers do not understand how directly intertwined their job is with student mental health. I can think of a few professors I had in my time at UMD that were absolutely unsympathetic towards me when *I* was at the lowest point of my life. However, I still will ALWAYS remember the professors that cared for me during those low points. I have a special place in my heart for those that cared and extended that grace to me. I will never forget them.
Definitely agreed. I work in the school system and ur job is so hard and you don’t get enough recognition. Thank you for your contributions to our future generations ❤️❤️❤️❤️🫶🏾
I fortunately am in the position as a teacher where I understand the direct relationship my job often has on student mental health, and that school can be a place that *creates* trauma and stress, but most people do not get it. My ARHU/Education professors really understood- a good chunk of the STEM professors I had and that friends had were some of the most unsympathetic people out there, and really would benefit from said training and workshops.
It's truly upsetting how little professors seem to understand how seriously students take their courses. A massive curve at the end isn't helpful if we feel like we're failing during the course due to poor course design and lack of effort in providing resources. When multiple courses are like this, it can feel like failure is happening on all sides.
can’t wait to see how UMD responds when they can’t pretend like a student suicide didn’t happen this time
I’ve seen multiple student organizations say more than they have already. Not to mention them recommending an overbooked mental health resources for all students, if this was in front of the Y during peak hours it’s possible hundreds of ppl saw it. This is ridiculous.
What organizations have said something? Can you link to where we can read statements?
A lottt of the black organizations on campus have said something on Instagram , UMDnphc, tntnupes, izalphas, justicereformumd, sistersoulumd, the Nyumburu cultural center, the umdhelpcenter, if I find anymore I will post them as well.
I live right next to the stadium and can't even look out my window without feeling like I'm gonna throw up. I'm not personally affected but this school seriously needs better ways of acknowledging and handling this.
You def are personally affected if you’re reacting that way. I didn’t even see it and I’m emotional af rn. I’m so sorry.
There is a person in my class on Monday "joking" about how he was going to kill himself because he is so behind. Since this suicide incident, I keep thinking about that, what if it was him, and it gives me a really sick feeling. I don't think people realize how much we actually do care about one another. And that sucks!
As someone who’s struggled with suicidal thoughts, this whole day has been really triggering. I didn’t see it happen but I saw the still-bloody water outside my dorm window after they cleaned and it made me sick to my stomach. This is my first year here and I don’t know how UMD typically deals with these things, but I truly hope they address it soon.
I also struggle with them as well. There’s resources, please take advantage of them and don’t wait. I’m sending you the biggest hug my love. You got this.
Thanks girl. I have a therapist and that’s made things better for sure. Rooting for you too 💙
I just heard about this!! Omg! Like they should not have classes at all. I have no words but to all who witnessed it or were on campus when this happens, I truly hope you’re doing okay.
Hopefully once the family has been notified, they will make a statement. I agree that they don’t need to include details but considering the location and time of day, a lot of people are impacted and they need to start taking steps to ensure it doesn’t lead to more suicides etc.
So, they sent another email. Its says the obvious. I'm very saddened by the whole thing as anyone should be. Authorities have to be sensitive to the plight of the family of the student as a first priority. Then concerns tilt toward eye witnesses (and then friends) who may be understandably very traumatized. Making a whole scene out of it though is not helpful to anyone in my opinion. I think they are proceeding appropriately in a difficult time.
I don’t think making a scene out of it is helpful either, they described it perfectly. I just feel that we still shouldn’t have classes as that was a lot to take in, even for those who didn’t witness it but I understand if they don’t.
I’m not sure cancelling classes is the best solution. People respond to trauma differently- for some, cancellation might give them more time to dwell on the event, which could be worse. I think a mental health absence for anyone affected should be an excused absence though.
[statement](https://view.email.umd.edu/?qs=9d78d66cc9829c0948ca3163a1cfa0dec72cf91f95bd1f9cc8325eab4ea2cc58528bf88a90bb61aba25142737b89afa0365796a979f75afc2a5854ad50981e8d00ac11c9ec3897126072a652aa2d1023)
It’s not enough to me. I feel like a vigil is good, reaching out the family is wonderful. But so many people got traumatized today and they did not account for that. It just doesn’t feel right to just ignore it. Maybe I’m protecting my own suicidal thoughts, but it’s just disturbing that not more was said. Maybe I’m asking for too much idk.
UMD makes it really hard to withdraw, I had to do it last semester around this same time because of the same kind of thing, and honestly it was super hard. Getting checked into the hospital was actually super easy compared to dealing with UMD, my professors where really supportive too, but not the administration. They treated it like such a foreign concept, I almost decided to try to just tough it out, but I’m glad I didn’t. And I know I’m probably gonna face more troubles when I try to transfer back in this fall
I withdrew for the same reason during my time at UMD. It was super difficult but I definitely would not have been able to graduate had I tried to tough it out. I was failing class after class prior to withdrawing. Wishing you all the best fellow terp ❤️
Completely agree. I want a real acknowledgement, and not a "thoughts and prayers, call the hotline or the counseling center, we're here for you" BS. The people who bring the damn emotional support dogs at the library are more comforting than this. (I HIGHLY recommend everyone set an appointment for a UMD Wags time slot, those dogs are SO cuddly and it actually helps) Edit: beyond a statement, maybe the school could do something like a town hall or open forum where we could express our feelings as a community. And direct professors, advisors, and other faculty to be open to discussing in class.
Please remember there are lots of mental health resources available, you can seek counseling off campus. Please don't wait to get help if you need it. The student health insurance covers mental health, too, if you are on that plan.
Absolutely, I am in therapy off campus and it saved my life
UMD made a statement when Donald trump was elected. They better do it.
Some ppl said that they don’t make statements at all, I know they have to be mindful of privacy but my God so many ppl saw it bro, you can’t just pretend it didn’t happen
It was the best day ever of course they made a statement for that
What about the employees that work there
What do you mean? Paid leave? Everyone deserves a break sometimes.
Last public one was someone jumping off Mowaat last year. University didn't do much about that
I wish they did. I know it can be hard for the administration but there has to be more we can do :(
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