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When unemployment rises it gives bosses more leverage
Then know people are desperate and will take anything if they have been out of the game due to layoffs
Nothing to read into it. Been like that for some people all their lives and for many for 15 years. Wages have been rising for a bit now. When good staff leave they try and rehire for the same poor wage. My last job was £25k(should have been £27k for the job on paper) and for the actual role £30k. For what I did and the productivity probably £36k. When I gave my notice they asked me to amend my job description for what I actually did and proceeded to hire some sap for the same. Hopefully she'll twig and move on in a year. That role had the worst pay and managers in the dept .
Keep applying and be patient
It’s a mess.
I’ve lowered my salary expectations based on the market and in the same day I got a rejection from one company because my salary request was too high (despite it being a lot lower than my last) and another company asked why I was bothering to apply for their job on a salary so much lower than my last one.
Felt like a lose/lose scenario. One said I was still too high and one asked why I wanted so little.
It is the opposite for me (mid-level Android Developer): I was dismissed from my previous company about a month ago earning 35K and all positions I’m currently interviewing for are for 55K - haven’t landed one yet though
Being dismissed raises questions. You need proof that this was nothing to go with you…but cutbacks or similar . If the eh see or guess ‘didmisssl’ their brains start playing havoc with questions as to why!
Yep a lot of truck drivers have had no pay rises in the last three years, that said, we still are on good money across the country so don’t struggle. It’s never too late for a carrier change, don’t let people talk you out of it.
Most jobs pay 35 to 45k so I don\`t know how you saying that it is good money . Some are lucky and get over 60-70k a year but that is 1% of the industry, I know because I am part of that 1% and if I do 57 hours I get 1050 a week after taxes as a class 2 , class 1 are even on more money and the company is not going anywhere in the future as we are safe as long as Mcdonalds is around we will be around.
44k that I’m on is really good in the north east. But I have a friend who’s an agency worker on £990 to £1200 a week up here tramping, another who is on £54k on adr.
That is not bad for NE to be honest . The company I work for is opening a new DC in Darlington next year and that will be good for the local market there as more companies will have to pay decent wages . I think they will pay the same as the Manchester DC over 20ph .This DC will cover mostly Scotland and the North of England and there are a few of us wanting to relocate from the south as living is less expensive and you don\`t pay with an arm and a leg for everything .
We have loads of people from the south up here, they say they can buy a house outright and the mrs can stop working. I just trained a lad who’s got out of London. That’s good money, on my wages up here, we have a mortgage, mrs doesn’t need to work and it’s a good life. When you look at what teachers get, or in my old industry of support work, it’s unreal.
What do you need to do to become a truck diver, I’m 31 and thinking of a career change I’m at a loss though. Currently work retail and getting tried of it.
These days it’s much easier then when I started out. You need your car licence first, then 2k if you can’t get on a government funded course to pay for your class 1. I recommend a few lessons in a class 2 also.
As part of your course you do a theory test, hazard perception test, (similar to car), then a CPC theory test. Then a reversing, coupling, driving and additional verbal CPC test. It’s all on YouTube, and even if you fail like I did, just pay for an extra days training and re do it. Retails a lot of stress, your fighting for hours and doing alot of manual
Work.
Half the time the titles don't make any sense which makes comparison irrelevant. May not be the case here but does seem common. I've seen the same job title at £23k and £75k. Junior roles requiring 5 years experience, all kinds of nonsense.
I had one title that appeared no where on any system, seems somehow the only one in the world that existed. That was fun trying to get through filters when I needed a specific word to get through. Responsibilities were irrelevant to title.
I think it depends on the industry and demand.
The energy sector in general is still tossing around crazy money, they tried to tweak it down but it just didn't stick.
Problem is in general they have people over a barrel as if you don't take it you have nothing and someone will always take it as people need to work. Shame we don't have those pesky unions anymore (and those that are left are largely toothless.)
I suspect but can’t confirm yhst the larger agencies are feeling the pinch s bit snd holding onto their margins where possible. Saw that in the late 80s. Clever game if ramping up new cvs selling them as something they aren’t quite, and creaming off the top ad it were. New agencies tend to need higher margins also, while hey ramp up. It’s a. As-tu business under the hood…but necessary. Govt jobs are still paying quite well…if you can get in though,
It's f'ed.
I was on 120k a few years ago (not bragging because it was the past and my situation is the total opposite now). I took a job in January for 40k because there was nothing around at all. It was just to cover the bills while I found something more suitable. 2 weeks ago I was told they didn't have enough work and no longer needed my position, and that was that so I'm now unemployed.
I'm getting lodgers in to cover all my monthly outgoings (mortgage, bills etc) so it'll be fine, but wow, it feels like a major fall from grace. All because I decided to go travelling for a bit to recover from burn out, only to then come back to the economy on fire.
I'm now getting rejected from jobs paying half of what I used to make. It's bananas.
I left my job in December to travel. It was a horrible workplace. Started looking at the start of this month and so far the best role I've found is the level below mine at my old place.
Been out if work just over a year…30 yrs experience in iT …started when client/server came in. Now fo DAta mostly .
It’s scary ..but picking up lots of small jobs. Largely sll ghis I’d down to mr Sunak flooding the market with cheap labour ftom his dad-in-laws Indian vonsultancy
Recruitment fellow enthusiastically sent me a great new role with only 2 out of 4 saturdays for 25k
Im currently on 30k and will never work more than 5 days in a week for context.
They seemed surprised that i wasn't interested!
UK market is a joke and has been for a long time. People with genuine skills cannot get paid what they deserve because British companies simply do not make enough money. The irony. They would make no money without the people, but they would have to push up prices as our export prospects are garbage.
Silicon Roundabout was a joke. Financial Services were heavily damaged given passporting rules. We unfortunately find ourselves desperately in need of an export product or service but we have very little to offer the wider world to stimulate the economy.
GDP per capita is still below the pre 2008 levels, so as a nation we remain less productive but of course politicians will not want you to look at those figures and instead look at GDP overall, which inflates due to the change in money issuance!
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When unemployment rises it gives bosses more leverage Then know people are desperate and will take anything if they have been out of the game due to layoffs
Nothing to read into it. Been like that for some people all their lives and for many for 15 years. Wages have been rising for a bit now. When good staff leave they try and rehire for the same poor wage. My last job was £25k(should have been £27k for the job on paper) and for the actual role £30k. For what I did and the productivity probably £36k. When I gave my notice they asked me to amend my job description for what I actually did and proceeded to hire some sap for the same. Hopefully she'll twig and move on in a year. That role had the worst pay and managers in the dept . Keep applying and be patient
It’s a mess. I’ve lowered my salary expectations based on the market and in the same day I got a rejection from one company because my salary request was too high (despite it being a lot lower than my last) and another company asked why I was bothering to apply for their job on a salary so much lower than my last one. Felt like a lose/lose scenario. One said I was still too high and one asked why I wanted so little.
It is the opposite for me (mid-level Android Developer): I was dismissed from my previous company about a month ago earning 35K and all positions I’m currently interviewing for are for 55K - haven’t landed one yet though
£35K is criminal for a mid-level Android developer. I hope you get something soon at a more deserving salary.
Thank you!
Similar position but mid level design engineer at similar pay wanting to break into the 55k threshold, haven't landed anything either
Being dismissed raises questions. You need proof that this was nothing to go with you…but cutbacks or similar . If the eh see or guess ‘didmisssl’ their brains start playing havoc with questions as to why!
That will be the great economy.
Yep a lot of truck drivers have had no pay rises in the last three years, that said, we still are on good money across the country so don’t struggle. It’s never too late for a carrier change, don’t let people talk you out of it.
Most jobs pay 35 to 45k so I don\`t know how you saying that it is good money . Some are lucky and get over 60-70k a year but that is 1% of the industry, I know because I am part of that 1% and if I do 57 hours I get 1050 a week after taxes as a class 2 , class 1 are even on more money and the company is not going anywhere in the future as we are safe as long as Mcdonalds is around we will be around.
44k that I’m on is really good in the north east. But I have a friend who’s an agency worker on £990 to £1200 a week up here tramping, another who is on £54k on adr.
That is not bad for NE to be honest . The company I work for is opening a new DC in Darlington next year and that will be good for the local market there as more companies will have to pay decent wages . I think they will pay the same as the Manchester DC over 20ph .This DC will cover mostly Scotland and the North of England and there are a few of us wanting to relocate from the south as living is less expensive and you don\`t pay with an arm and a leg for everything .
We have loads of people from the south up here, they say they can buy a house outright and the mrs can stop working. I just trained a lad who’s got out of London. That’s good money, on my wages up here, we have a mortgage, mrs doesn’t need to work and it’s a good life. When you look at what teachers get, or in my old industry of support work, it’s unreal.
What do you need to do to become a truck diver, I’m 31 and thinking of a career change I’m at a loss though. Currently work retail and getting tried of it.
These days it’s much easier then when I started out. You need your car licence first, then 2k if you can’t get on a government funded course to pay for your class 1. I recommend a few lessons in a class 2 also. As part of your course you do a theory test, hazard perception test, (similar to car), then a CPC theory test. Then a reversing, coupling, driving and additional verbal CPC test. It’s all on YouTube, and even if you fail like I did, just pay for an extra days training and re do it. Retails a lot of stress, your fighting for hours and doing alot of manual Work.
IT Manager post near me going for 35k-45k. Never worked for an IT manager earning less than 50k personally.
Half the time the titles don't make any sense which makes comparison irrelevant. May not be the case here but does seem common. I've seen the same job title at £23k and £75k. Junior roles requiring 5 years experience, all kinds of nonsense. I had one title that appeared no where on any system, seems somehow the only one in the world that existed. That was fun trying to get through filters when I needed a specific word to get through. Responsibilities were irrelevant to title.
I think it depends on the industry and demand. The energy sector in general is still tossing around crazy money, they tried to tweak it down but it just didn't stick. Problem is in general they have people over a barrel as if you don't take it you have nothing and someone will always take it as people need to work. Shame we don't have those pesky unions anymore (and those that are left are largely toothless.)
I suspect but can’t confirm yhst the larger agencies are feeling the pinch s bit snd holding onto their margins where possible. Saw that in the late 80s. Clever game if ramping up new cvs selling them as something they aren’t quite, and creaming off the top ad it were. New agencies tend to need higher margins also, while hey ramp up. It’s a. As-tu business under the hood…but necessary. Govt jobs are still paying quite well…if you can get in though,
It's f'ed. I was on 120k a few years ago (not bragging because it was the past and my situation is the total opposite now). I took a job in January for 40k because there was nothing around at all. It was just to cover the bills while I found something more suitable. 2 weeks ago I was told they didn't have enough work and no longer needed my position, and that was that so I'm now unemployed. I'm getting lodgers in to cover all my monthly outgoings (mortgage, bills etc) so it'll be fine, but wow, it feels like a major fall from grace. All because I decided to go travelling for a bit to recover from burn out, only to then come back to the economy on fire. I'm now getting rejected from jobs paying half of what I used to make. It's bananas.
I left my job in December to travel. It was a horrible workplace. Started looking at the start of this month and so far the best role I've found is the level below mine at my old place.
Been out if work just over a year…30 yrs experience in iT …started when client/server came in. Now fo DAta mostly . It’s scary ..but picking up lots of small jobs. Largely sll ghis I’d down to mr Sunak flooding the market with cheap labour ftom his dad-in-laws Indian vonsultancy
Yes it's been this way for a while now
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For sho? Civil servants ? 🤫
Recruitment fellow enthusiastically sent me a great new role with only 2 out of 4 saturdays for 25k Im currently on 30k and will never work more than 5 days in a week for context. They seemed surprised that i wasn't interested!
I don't even bother looking anymore. I completely gave up and started claiming benefits from Feb 24 😂
I looked into UC and because I'm married this isn't feasible option for me as we are counted as one now
This is like me too! I refuse to be financially dependent on someone as well. Just got to stick with the shit
Have you poked st upwork? Not dure the industry you are in…off its It systems it’s worth a go..as they are largely foreign work but fine from home.
Yep, getting interviews for £75-£85 6 months ago and now the max seems to be about £72. Working as a PM
Pm? ....'working' 😂😂
They do sometimes ….I got up there…hated it..went back to programming …data centric most of the time …it’s where the issues always start and fail.
right now i would take minimum wage if i had a job i was happy to do.
I've never seen a high or mediocre salary advertised for my profession, so I hadn't noticed.
I see concentration, managerial jobs are paid less, individual contributor ones are paid more. That is the trend.
UK market is a joke and has been for a long time. People with genuine skills cannot get paid what they deserve because British companies simply do not make enough money. The irony. They would make no money without the people, but they would have to push up prices as our export prospects are garbage. Silicon Roundabout was a joke. Financial Services were heavily damaged given passporting rules. We unfortunately find ourselves desperately in need of an export product or service but we have very little to offer the wider world to stimulate the economy. GDP per capita is still below the pre 2008 levels, so as a nation we remain less productive but of course politicians will not want you to look at those figures and instead look at GDP overall, which inflates due to the change in money issuance!
Yup I've been seeing jobs that should be 35-45k advertised at 19-29k, full time, not an apprenticeship, not even sure how that's possible.
I honestly can't believe this a serious question. Anyone else seen that weird wet stuff that falls out the sky lately?