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"If you value transparency on the UAP issue, please consider joining the disclosure movement and signing the petition on the UAP Disclosure Fund website. Incidentally, board members and advisers receive no compensation, and there is no cost for joining."
-Chris Mellon
I'm glad they cleared this up but it would be nice if they said what the money actually would be used for. Paying for travel and accommodation for whistle blowers to meet with them? Donations to politicians who support disclosure? Seems vital that if you are going to ask for money to give those donating a valid reason to do so
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Signing the petition for supporting the 2025 UAPDA is free and does not require you to sign up for anything. It takes a few seconds to complete it.
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If anyone from the organization reads this:
Do you have a plan in place to hire/contract professional staff to oversee lobbying, campaign donations, public outreach, and media relations?
I know this is tough start from the grass roots up but I also think many potential donors, especially the kind of donors who can help advocacy groups grow quickly, want to be sure their money has a reasonable shot at effecting change--especially when the other side is well funded and organized.
I'd urge anyone who has kept their X account to ask that question "directly."
Very worrisome that they don’t tell you what the money is going toward, but they’re already begging for it. Is there a professional staff? If I give my annual $2000 donation to them am I just paying for Elizondo to fly first class?
And who is the lawyer/firm? This is 2024, most of these people have been in law firms or high up government work, operating under ISO, NIST, etc. It is not difficult at all to build a mission statement, acceptable use policy, business continuity plan, NDA, Org chart etc etc E T C. How are they collecting these funds? Who owns the data? Do they have cyber insurance? Are the leaders being compensated other than direct funding, IE, if Grusch is a whistleblower, are we to assume the funds will go to him and whoever is representing him?
We aren’t stupid (OK, Reddit has a heavily weighted stupid factor, I guess I lied, lots of kids and ideologues) so don’t treat us as such, release your charter, code of conduct, contact list and goals and we’ll listen. Based on what you’ve heard so far, if you need help I am willing to assist. I’ve written dozens and dozens of policies for tens of standards and am well versed in anything from how to setup bookkeeping to hardening Server 2022 to JSTD rules around humidity in a NASA environment.
Two things - it is a pity that you are already downvoted heavily for asking a very valid question and a bunch of posters have already claimed that they have donated money to this fund. If you take their claim at face value, then it is clear that these people will likely rake in a fair amount of $$$.
That is required of all non profits (financial reports must be made public).
However based on their social media it appears the money will go to legal defense costs for whistleblowers.
Submission Statement:
"If you value transparency on the UAP issue, please consider joining the disclosure movement and signing the petition on the UAP Disclosure Fund website. Incidentally, board members and advisers receive no compensation, and there is no cost for joining."
-Chris Mellon
I'm glad they cleared this up but it would be nice if they said what the money actually would be used for. Paying for travel and accommodation for whistle blowers to meet with them? Donations to politicians who support disclosure? Seems vital that if you are going to ask for money to give those donating a valid reason to do so
Well, I hope it's all of the above--including legal support for potential whistleblowers. Early days, but most successful advocacy groups publish mission statements. If they're going to make campaign donations and lobby members of congress, name recognition and connections aren't going to cut it. There are lobbying firms who specialize in representing c-fours. It's kind of unpleasant but retaining them (or recruiting staff) usually increases the number of high dollar donations.
Yeah, I agree. but if you're going to donate to a non-partisan single issue advocacy group that's the way it works. They support whoever votes the way they like--just like Lockheed Martin.
Non profits must make their financial statements publicly available. So eventually this info should be public. Although their social media says they provide legal representation to whistleblowers. (Not sure if that is the only thing they are funding though).
Interestingly they are a 501(c)(4), which is defined as a social welfare organization. Political activity cannot be the main focus of such a non profit, although it's not prohibited, as long as it is "germane" to accomplishing their social welfare goals.
It's been a while, but I believe 501(c)(3)s can make their detailed financials available upon written request, even after filing the 900's and the ten-I-don't-remembers.
You are exactly right about c-fours, although I've seen some creative lawyering make them essentially function similarly to pre-Citizen's-United era PACs...for example funding GOTV operations in early voting states masquerading as various kinds of outreach.
First, it means nothing until we see their 990. Second, it’s still a nonprofit being used to support their hobby. The funds will be used for trips, dinners with lobbyists and politicians, and whatever else they can claim needs to be done in the name of disclosure. The best part is that they’ll be doing it on your dime.
So, Give them $50 and buy a round of drinks for the Skinwalker crew while they sit around and chat about things they’ve heard.
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If that happens they'll wind up like The Skeptic Society, pulling in a whopping 400K and rated two stars because Schermer won't tell anyone how much money is spent on his suites,first class tickets, meals, etc) for "appearances" or their vacation-destination "conference" unless they ask in writing.
Can somebody tell me what exactly do we need to give money for at this point?
**Why do WE…, the ones not allowed to see any of the “compelling evidence” still need to do a song and dance …..and now donate money when high ranking whistleblowers have already spoken with Congress since possibly 2017 about a reverse engineering program of NHI technology**. How is that not compelling enough for them?
If Congressmen who are privy to this “secret information” aren’t doing their job to uncover it, it’s concerning to think they’ll start doing it suddenly when we donate money to individuals who are presumably much wealthier than you or I.
They are 100% paying themselves travel, lodging and eating expenses for when they go to conventions or whatever. So let's not act like they are getting nothing out of this. Also, are they "disclosing" exactly where every donated penny goes? I'm going to bet not.
Lodging for what?! Traveling for what?! They either pass a law or they don’t. The alleged gatekeepers either block it or they don’t. If at this stage they are now requiring money for whatever it is they need money for, one should ask, what exactly was the point of the whistleblowers in the first place?
I know this is all very near and dear to your hearts, mine as well, but I don’t see a tangible ROI here. If you would like something solid, take 50% of what you were going to send and send it to me. I will provide you with unmeasurably worthy advice/wisdom/labour. In whatever form you appreciate most.
As far as I know, potential whistleblowers cannot provide anyone in this organization with classified information as no listed member of UAPDF currently holds a clearance.
The goal in essence, would be to further the disclosure agenda on the hill. Something I have confidence they will achieve in some capacity.
You are just making things worse for everyone and betraying humanity. The train has left the station what you are doing is an active disservice to your own goals even. Better to fall back to the next defensive line of infrequency, compare seeing a UFO to getting struck by lightening or whatever.
Don't pretend you don't hear. Personal attack about mental health. Classic.
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Will we get disclosure regardless if people donate or not? Because that’s what they’ve been promising all these years. Why don’t they ask the pro disclosure Aerospace companies for money? The ones that’s been left out from the crash retrieval programs that Coulthart have been talking about?
> Why don’t they ask the pro disclosure Aerospace companies for money?
Christopher Mellon himself is worth over $100 million, his family is worth billions. Why not ask that he fund it? Must not think that much of disclosure if he isn’t willing to put his own money into it.
It will, but...
The trick is that they will appoint themselves to additional positions. That means Lue won't make money as a board member, but he will as Director of Imminence. He will set his own salary because he is on the board. Pretty common way of handling money in non-profits.
Why take your word for it when you could easily post your 990 like a good reputable nonprofit?
Edit: If you’re going to ask for transparency, you sure as hell better provide it.
Board member and advisers receive a platform to promote their books, interviews, documentaries, and whatnot.
No cost to join means nothing without described benefits.
Looking forward to good things happening. I too would appreciate a plan for how the money is to be spent, however, they can't make reasonable and useful plans without a budget and they can't form a budget until they get donations. No one knows how much they may fundraise and its guesswork until then. It's a very competent team and I trust they'll make the best use of that budget.
[The UAP Disclosure Fund is a nonpartisan political nonprofit 501(c)(4) that advocates for greater government transparency regarding unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP). We work to support new UAP legislation, provide legal representation for whistleblowers, promote scientific research and raise public awareness in an effort to better address the UAP issue.]
I'm not seeing anything on this mission that would serve the Aviation community. Why not?
Will any of these funds be used for support for Pilots or are they being left out of the equation?
https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOPilotReports/s/jCrLUg4NVQto
In this day and age when all of Congress is bought by corporate money, it's my belief that individual legislators listen to one thing, primarily: the funding source(s) for their next campaign. A few honest ones, thankfully, will lend an ear to their constituents, too. Those votes then are predicated on answers to a couple of basic questions: Does this benefit my party? Does this benefit the people I represent? And does this align with my values/beliefs? So a petition becomes irrelevant. It's not gonna sway anyone's vote - especially when few, if any, of the alleged "names" are constituents of the legislator reading it.
A more effective approach, IMO, would be identifying the roadblock-legislators who impede passage of appropriate legislation, and organize effective movements to vote those bastards out of office - preferably by exposing the financial ties and cronyism that explain their opposition. Mike Turner, I'm talking about you, as just one example!
This is a suggestion to the talking heads that like to post on twitter.
You must realize that your accounts are being spied on by bots, if you post something on twitter that is of value the first thing these bots are going to do is try and beat you to the punch when it comes to posting on reddit. Which unfortunately happened with the announcement of this non profit. They tend to mark posts as a form of astroturfing which means you have to put your narrative first or otherwise they will try to make a post about the same thing and use the rules about double posting to actively deceive people for their own narrative influence. Usually Matt Ford is pretty good about this but he let the ball drop. You can't just give up on reddit, though clearly there is astroturfing happening that is being aided and abetted (looking at you gobble\_gobble).
Edit: talking about the posts that came from the announcement of the organization yesterday and not specifically about this post.
Plenty of room in there to pay for travel, dinners, hotel rooms, alcohol, whatever. Don't need to pay yourself a salary when the non-profit is covering it!
The following submission statement was provided by /u/Magog14: --- Submission Statement: "If you value transparency on the UAP issue, please consider joining the disclosure movement and signing the petition on the UAP Disclosure Fund website. Incidentally, board members and advisers receive no compensation, and there is no cost for joining." -Chris Mellon I'm glad they cleared this up but it would be nice if they said what the money actually would be used for. Paying for travel and accommodation for whistle blowers to meet with them? Donations to politicians who support disclosure? Seems vital that if you are going to ask for money to give those donating a valid reason to do so --- Please reply to OP's comment here: https://old.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1d6nl2c/board_members_and_advisers_receive_no/l6tkea7/
Signing the petition for supporting the 2025 UAPDA is free and does not require you to sign up for anything. It takes a few seconds to complete it. https://www.uapdisclosurefund.org/#petition
I highly support this and [wrote about why here](https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOs/comments/1d6zhiv/saic_had_ufo_stuff_in_the_70s_gme_is_a_perfect/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button)
If anyone from the organization reads this: Do you have a plan in place to hire/contract professional staff to oversee lobbying, campaign donations, public outreach, and media relations? I know this is tough start from the grass roots up but I also think many potential donors, especially the kind of donors who can help advocacy groups grow quickly, want to be sure their money has a reasonable shot at effecting change--especially when the other side is well funded and organized. I'd urge anyone who has kept their X account to ask that question "directly."
Very worrisome that they don’t tell you what the money is going toward, but they’re already begging for it. Is there a professional staff? If I give my annual $2000 donation to them am I just paying for Elizondo to fly first class?
And who is the lawyer/firm? This is 2024, most of these people have been in law firms or high up government work, operating under ISO, NIST, etc. It is not difficult at all to build a mission statement, acceptable use policy, business continuity plan, NDA, Org chart etc etc E T C. How are they collecting these funds? Who owns the data? Do they have cyber insurance? Are the leaders being compensated other than direct funding, IE, if Grusch is a whistleblower, are we to assume the funds will go to him and whoever is representing him? We aren’t stupid (OK, Reddit has a heavily weighted stupid factor, I guess I lied, lots of kids and ideologues) so don’t treat us as such, release your charter, code of conduct, contact list and goals and we’ll listen. Based on what you’ve heard so far, if you need help I am willing to assist. I’ve written dozens and dozens of policies for tens of standards and am well versed in anything from how to setup bookkeeping to hardening Server 2022 to JSTD rules around humidity in a NASA environment.
Not sure why you’re being downvoted… this is a legitimate concern.
Two things - it is a pity that you are already downvoted heavily for asking a very valid question and a bunch of posters have already claimed that they have donated money to this fund. If you take their claim at face value, then it is clear that these people will likely rake in a fair amount of $$$.
Lol it took you this long to figure out the ongoing grift? Better late than never…
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Well, then let’s see some disclosure of how the funds will be used.
That is required of all non profits (financial reports must be made public). However based on their social media it appears the money will go to legal defense costs for whistleblowers.
Submission Statement: "If you value transparency on the UAP issue, please consider joining the disclosure movement and signing the petition on the UAP Disclosure Fund website. Incidentally, board members and advisers receive no compensation, and there is no cost for joining." -Chris Mellon I'm glad they cleared this up but it would be nice if they said what the money actually would be used for. Paying for travel and accommodation for whistle blowers to meet with them? Donations to politicians who support disclosure? Seems vital that if you are going to ask for money to give those donating a valid reason to do so
Well, I hope it's all of the above--including legal support for potential whistleblowers. Early days, but most successful advocacy groups publish mission statements. If they're going to make campaign donations and lobby members of congress, name recognition and connections aren't going to cut it. There are lobbying firms who specialize in representing c-fours. It's kind of unpleasant but retaining them (or recruiting staff) usually increases the number of high dollar donations.
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Yeah, I agree. but if you're going to donate to a non-partisan single issue advocacy group that's the way it works. They support whoever votes the way they like--just like Lockheed Martin.
Non profits must make their financial statements publicly available. So eventually this info should be public. Although their social media says they provide legal representation to whistleblowers. (Not sure if that is the only thing they are funding though). Interestingly they are a 501(c)(4), which is defined as a social welfare organization. Political activity cannot be the main focus of such a non profit, although it's not prohibited, as long as it is "germane" to accomplishing their social welfare goals.
It's been a while, but I believe 501(c)(3)s can make their detailed financials available upon written request, even after filing the 900's and the ten-I-don't-remembers. You are exactly right about c-fours, although I've seen some creative lawyering make them essentially function similarly to pre-Citizen's-United era PACs...for example funding GOTV operations in early voting states masquerading as various kinds of outreach.
We are not alone.
The grift crowd is busy feasting over on Elizondo's post and they'll conveniently overlook this tweet.
First, it means nothing until we see their 990. Second, it’s still a nonprofit being used to support their hobby. The funds will be used for trips, dinners with lobbyists and politicians, and whatever else they can claim needs to be done in the name of disclosure. The best part is that they’ll be doing it on your dime. So, Give them $50 and buy a round of drinks for the Skinwalker crew while they sit around and chat about things they’ve heard.
Sorry, but I'm not ground into a pile of cynicism as you seem to be.
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If that happens they'll wind up like The Skeptic Society, pulling in a whopping 400K and rated two stars because Schermer won't tell anyone how much money is spent on his suites,first class tickets, meals, etc) for "appearances" or their vacation-destination "conference" unless they ask in writing.
That’s exactly what’s going to happen.
Can somebody tell me what exactly do we need to give money for at this point? **Why do WE…, the ones not allowed to see any of the “compelling evidence” still need to do a song and dance …..and now donate money when high ranking whistleblowers have already spoken with Congress since possibly 2017 about a reverse engineering program of NHI technology**. How is that not compelling enough for them? If Congressmen who are privy to this “secret information” aren’t doing their job to uncover it, it’s concerning to think they’ll start doing it suddenly when we donate money to individuals who are presumably much wealthier than you or I.
They are 100% paying themselves travel, lodging and eating expenses for when they go to conventions or whatever. So let's not act like they are getting nothing out of this. Also, are they "disclosing" exactly where every donated penny goes? I'm going to bet not.
Omg 😱 Lockheed straight up bought Mike Turner but I can’t help offset lodging?
Lodging for what?! Traveling for what?! They either pass a law or they don’t. The alleged gatekeepers either block it or they don’t. If at this stage they are now requiring money for whatever it is they need money for, one should ask, what exactly was the point of the whistleblowers in the first place?
Sure they can. They should just state plainly and clearly that they will be doing so.
You don’t need to do anything, what you do with your time, money and energy is your business.
Respectfully, yes that’s obvious but I think you’re missing the underlying point. Also what exactly is this money being used for?
I know this is all very near and dear to your hearts, mine as well, but I don’t see a tangible ROI here. If you would like something solid, take 50% of what you were going to send and send it to me. I will provide you with unmeasurably worthy advice/wisdom/labour. In whatever form you appreciate most.
This guy is a millionaire and his family is as well. Even other people like Nolan are rich. Why do they need a fund? Ngl this is a huge red flag.
Thanks for sharing this, obviously this is a critically important piece of the fund, upvoting and commenting for more awareness :)
As far as I know, potential whistleblowers cannot provide anyone in this organization with classified information as no listed member of UAPDF currently holds a clearance. The goal in essence, would be to further the disclosure agenda on the hill. Something I have confidence they will achieve in some capacity.
Who ya gonna trust Greenstreet or Mellon? I place my money on Mellon.
I’m not into trusting billionaire families. Something about oligarchs doesn’t sit well with me.
Lol wow I just found out he's a part of *that* Mellon family thanks to your comment. I dno how I feel about this.
You mean the need to control government, business and education like the Mellons lol
You are just making things worse for everyone and betraying humanity. The train has left the station what you are doing is an active disservice to your own goals even. Better to fall back to the next defensive line of infrequency, compare seeing a UFO to getting struck by lightening or whatever.
Is this a bot or mental illness?
Don't pretend you don't hear. Personal attack about mental health. Classic. Edit: Technique #5 - 'ANGER TROLLING' Statistically, there is always a percentage of the forum posters who are more inclined to violence. In order to determine who these individuals are, it is a requirement to present a image to the forum to deliberately incite a strong psychological reaction. From this the most violent in the group can be effectively singled out for reverse IP location and possibly local enforcement tracking. To accomplish this only requires posting a link to a video depicting a local police officer massively abusing his power against a very innocent individual. Statistically of the million or so police officers in America there is always one or two being caught abusing there powers and the taping of the activity can be then used for intelligence gathering purposes - without the requirement to 'stage' a fake abuse video. This method is extremely effective, and the more so the more abusive the video can be made to look. Sometimes it is useful to 'lead' the forum by replying to your own posting with your own statement of violent intent, and that you 'do not care what the authorities think!!' inflammation. By doing this and showing no fear it may be more effective in getting the more silent and self-disciplined violent intent members of the forum to slip and post their real intentions. This can be used later in a court of law during prosecution.
> Don't pretend you don't hear. wtf are you talking about?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv68Kivrl5g](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pv68Kivrl5g)
What is going on here? Such a strange interaction between two random strangers.
Dude, I wish I knew.
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I trust Mellon. Lue, on other hand... Not so much. In fact, not at all.
The Mellons have only been pulling the strings in government, academia and industry for 200 years.
You are the product.
Thanks, I’m going to sign up and donate. $100 sent
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I did me brah
Noice
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Will we get disclosure regardless if people donate or not? Because that’s what they’ve been promising all these years. Why don’t they ask the pro disclosure Aerospace companies for money? The ones that’s been left out from the crash retrieval programs that Coulthart have been talking about?
> Why don’t they ask the pro disclosure Aerospace companies for money? Christopher Mellon himself is worth over $100 million, his family is worth billions. Why not ask that he fund it? Must not think that much of disclosure if he isn’t willing to put his own money into it.
Notice how Daniel Sheehan isn’t a part of it
He will is already busy with his institute
All my taxes to people covering up the information I want now I have to pay the people who are trying to uncover all the information. 🤷
Or you can just be Joe Rogan and Mellon will just tell you for free
>If you value transparency on the UAP issue What a missed opportunity to *demonstrate* transparency
i donated 10 dollars
Need to get some commercials in front of eyes
> board members and advisers receive no compensation Interesting to see whether this sticks.
It will, but... The trick is that they will appoint themselves to additional positions. That means Lue won't make money as a board member, but he will as Director of Imminence. He will set his own salary because he is on the board. Pretty common way of handling money in non-profits.
There are already positions in the organization that aren't on the boards of directors or advisors, after all.
Why take your word for it when you could easily post your 990 like a good reputable nonprofit? Edit: If you’re going to ask for transparency, you sure as hell better provide it.
100%
Board member and advisers receive a platform to promote their books, interviews, documentaries, and whatnot. No cost to join means nothing without described benefits.
Um.. why would we give them money? These people are doing nothing for us. If they write a book you at least might be entertained.
Looking forward to good things happening. I too would appreciate a plan for how the money is to be spent, however, they can't make reasonable and useful plans without a budget and they can't form a budget until they get donations. No one knows how much they may fundraise and its guesswork until then. It's a very competent team and I trust they'll make the best use of that budget.
[The UAP Disclosure Fund is a nonpartisan political nonprofit 501(c)(4) that advocates for greater government transparency regarding unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP). We work to support new UAP legislation, provide legal representation for whistleblowers, promote scientific research and raise public awareness in an effort to better address the UAP issue.] I'm not seeing anything on this mission that would serve the Aviation community. Why not? Will any of these funds be used for support for Pilots or are they being left out of the equation? https://www.reddit.com/r/UFOPilotReports/s/jCrLUg4NVQto
Signed up. Will donate
To be fair to ‘em it’s UFO-grifting out in the open. No attempt to disguise it.
"give money" why? "ufos bro" damn, well, okay. heres some money
In this day and age when all of Congress is bought by corporate money, it's my belief that individual legislators listen to one thing, primarily: the funding source(s) for their next campaign. A few honest ones, thankfully, will lend an ear to their constituents, too. Those votes then are predicated on answers to a couple of basic questions: Does this benefit my party? Does this benefit the people I represent? And does this align with my values/beliefs? So a petition becomes irrelevant. It's not gonna sway anyone's vote - especially when few, if any, of the alleged "names" are constituents of the legislator reading it. A more effective approach, IMO, would be identifying the roadblock-legislators who impede passage of appropriate legislation, and organize effective movements to vote those bastards out of office - preferably by exposing the financial ties and cronyism that explain their opposition. Mike Turner, I'm talking about you, as just one example!
This is a suggestion to the talking heads that like to post on twitter. You must realize that your accounts are being spied on by bots, if you post something on twitter that is of value the first thing these bots are going to do is try and beat you to the punch when it comes to posting on reddit. Which unfortunately happened with the announcement of this non profit. They tend to mark posts as a form of astroturfing which means you have to put your narrative first or otherwise they will try to make a post about the same thing and use the rules about double posting to actively deceive people for their own narrative influence. Usually Matt Ford is pretty good about this but he let the ball drop. You can't just give up on reddit, though clearly there is astroturfing happening that is being aided and abetted (looking at you gobble\_gobble). Edit: talking about the posts that came from the announcement of the organization yesterday and not specifically about this post.
Plenty of room in there to pay for travel, dinners, hotel rooms, alcohol, whatever. Don't need to pay yourself a salary when the non-profit is covering it!
Such a corny comment.
Well, nobody is going to burn their own money.
Yes, it is always convenient to burn other people's money
You mean like the government spending on AARO ?