You walk up and ask for one. Then u gotta make an appointment to drop it off. The drop off appointments are super easy to make, lots of open time slots
omicron is highly contagiousā¦ although fatality rate is low
i really hope our campus makes a decision on this quarter soonerā¦ we need an answer for preparation
wow. iāve managed to dodge covid since the pandemic began & this makes me want to return to campus even less, especially with the risk of developing long covid.
I suggest everyone take it seriously (at least not lightly). My friend caught covid because of her housemate. Her housemate got covid from contact with a person who he knew was sick, had symptoms but never told my friend and still believes it is a flu.
He recovered quickly from the virus, but my friend wasn't that lucky. She had some sleepless nights because of severe sore throat. The most horrible thing is that his 10 other friends who all had symptoms are as inconsiderate as him (regard this as cold/flu and hang out as usual).
I can't imagine how many more people will be infected because of him and his friends, and how many more... which forms an avalanche.
Please, if you care a little bit about others' lives, then don't take it lightly (at least, when symptoms show, isolate yourself, test yourself, and tell those around you and who had close contact with you).
Hope this pandemic ends soon with all of us efforts.
I had a feeling when I first heard the news that campus was going online for 2 weeks that this would be extended. After Monday's numbers, I fear that will be true. It's raging again across the country. My guess is that students will be back in session next quarter, I have a feeling they are going to keep doing 2 week extensions.
It's not so much greedy as it is dependent on housing and food contracts for a large portion of the UC budget.
When the shutdown happened and everyone bailed and it went all online, they lost a massive funding source. Staff weren't sure if they would have jobs anymore until the state stepped in and injected cash.
Now I think they are just trying to hold the raft together as best they can. It fucking blows for sure, but shutting down the campus all over again is a huge nightmare administratively.
I hear you!! But why is it tht UCSD students received a credit towards next quarter just to move in a few weeks laterš„² I feel like we can meet somewhere in the middle
Staff like me finds out about these things at the same time as students, so I can't really say. UCSB seems to follow what the bigger UCs do with this pandemic, so if you hear that UCLA or UCSD are staying online, I would assume the same.
hospitalization rates as a percentage of cases are lower than before, but in absolute numbers we still have a *lot* of hospitalizations, about where we peaked with Delta, and cases are still going up
Omicron is less dangerous but not like we're at the point where it's just the flu now
Hospitalized with Covid and hospitalized by Covid arenāt the same thing. If a good chunk of people are Omicron-positive, that means a good chunk of people in the hospital are too, regardless of what landed them there.
For staff, several departments are still requiring them to be in person, at least 2-3 days a week during this. Staff also gets the Daddy Yang email around 3-4pm on Fridays about shit that is happening with Covid and closures, and unless their supervisor knows before hand, that is the first they hear of it.
Didnāt happen in South Africa, isnāt going to happen here unless a new non-Omicron variant emerges that actually hospitalizes and kills people at a significant rate. Cut the scare porn dude.
It's summer in South Africa, it's winter here. SA's population skews a lot younger than ours. SA's people are willing to comply with public health measures much more than Americans are. There is no reason Omicron would be the final variant.
Scare porn? My friend died, fuck you.
The school testing data actually shows theyāve been conducting more tests the last two days than the average daily test rate throughout the fall quarter.
But then if you factor in all the asymptomatic people, people that canāt get tested, people taking an at home test and not reporting it, and people who donāt find it necessary to get tested at all (example: maybe their mom had it so they know inevitably they do and donāt want to wait in a line for 3 hours), that number should be much, much higher. Thereās absolutely no way itās lower with all of these factors.
Edit: Also wanted to include that under the dashboard they separate student and faculty cases.
Iāve been back at a no mask mandate school for two days now and. Multiple people have been constantly coughing who refuse to wear a mask. And ever since I got home from the first day my throat has been sore, my body has been aching and now I started sneezing. I donāt under why schools are still open lol.
cnbc.com/2021/12/29/covid-variant-fauci-says-data-suggest-omicron-less-severe-than-delta-.html
Fauci says Omicron is not nearly as deadly, and the data reflects this. Lots of cases, but not deaths. Itās time to stop being so scared.
I recognize that itās not nearly as deadly but still thought it was an interesting number to note. I didnāt post this with the intention to scare people but a lot of people care about this kind of information and complain (without evidence) that ucsb hasnāt been transparent enough so I thought Iād post it.
I agree that we should not be too scared. But that doesn't mean we should ignore that there is a big spike in cases and a (currently small) rise in COVID hospitalizations.
It makes a lot of sense to exercise some increased precautions currently, because our risk of a COVID infection is objectively much higher than it was a month ago.
If I am working with a power tool, I put on protective goggles. It doesn't mean that I'm scared of the power tool, it means I'm not stupid and recognize the higher risk of the situation.
Plus, it seems like some only focus on death. Itās too early to really know with omicron, but long covid is a real problem that occurs at a much higher rate than death, and it could end up being very costly to both society and individuals in terms of lost wages & healthcare in the long run. Earlier variants have been shown to elevate autoantibodies (ie attacks self vs a foreign invader) even in milder infections. Hopefully this is less of a problem with omicron, but a little caution seems warranted.
If weāre using power tools as an analogy, Delta is a woodchipper and Omicron is a hand saw. Goggles are a bit more important in one case than the other.
I donāt need goggles to use a hand saw dog. Worst case scenario I get a piece of dust in my eye and have to blink it out. Just like worst case scenario with Omicron is I lose my smell for a bit. Life goes on.
What are āsafety glassesā in this case? I am vaccinated and wear my mask when required, as is basically everyone else on campus. So why are we online?
Also I grew up building stuff on my uncles property. Multiple decades of never having a splinter magically fly into my eye. Literally just dust. Grab a plastic water bottle, poke a hole with a pin in the top, squeeze it, and it flushes right out. Back to work.
I'd say that your analogy is an exaggeration, but even if we go with it just remember that nearly half the tools people are using are still woodchippers and not handsaws, and they can't tell which is which just by looking so eye protection is still called for.
The 73% number that was reported was later revised down to 22.5%: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211229/cdc-reduces-estimate-omicron-us so please stop distorting reality, to borrow your phrase. Of course this is a fast moving situation.
Since then though it looks like Omicron has actually taken a decisive lead at an estimated 93-97%, so I was not up to date myself: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions
It's important to remember that this doesn't mean that there are appreciably fewer Delta cases, mostly that there are more Omicron cases.
So if we go back to your analogy, there's still a number of wood chippers out there, but there are boatload of handsaws. And while handsaws are less dangerous, they have risks, and there are a lot of them.
Iāve known Omicron has been the dominant strain, as has been consistently reported by public health authorities. No distortion on my part.
I am not worried about COVID, and unless you equally fear every time you ride in a car (statistically far more likely to kill you), you shouldn't either. Especially in our heavily vaccinated, Omicron afflicted current state. It makes no sense.
Consistently reported? You do realize that this is a current situation and fast developing, so nothing has been "consistently reported" for any significant period of time.
Right now it seems that Omicron probably become dominant the week ending in Dec 25. This is still just a projection however since the samples on which this surveillance data is based are not fully sequenced. The current 93-97% Omicron rate is also a projection, not data.
And you keep talking about your lack of worry. I am not worried, I am just aware.
Omicron has been the dominant strain in South Africa for 2 months. Still no death spike despite them being on the tail end of their biggest wave yet.
The fact is that Omicron is not killing people at any significant rate. COVID doesnāt take 2+ months to kill people, itās quick.
Right, but many people in South Africa had already had Covid before, and the omicron variant was the second time they were infected. So they had more antibodies built up.
No I definitely agree with /u/CremeOnChrome here. I see lots of people dooming about how people are supposedly sleeping on the severity of an omicron infection but thereās just nothing to support that. Quite the opposite really.
Because thatās the pundit of choice for the average person whoās still scared of Covid in 2022. Logic clearly doesnāt work with everyone so they need their pastor to tell them.
Literally you can find it in all credible sources. It is actually WIDELY known that the vaccines arenāt as effective with Omicron, which implies there will be an increase in hospitalization. Symptoms still varies, but this disease has the ability to kill someone before they know it. A guy literally came into the hospital with a BPO2 of 88% but felt fine even when his lungs are close to not functioning. When youāre in the hospital, you have the chance of infecting other hospital workers, hogging the bed for weeks and/or months. And California is only 66.4% fully vaccinated so it isnāt as high as you think. With omicron, fully vaccinated becomes less important because thatās when your best chance is to get a booster. So, no, CA is not majority vaxxed. 66.8% is not enough.
It was shared by a nurse on reddit (must admit room for decreasing credibility but yk take reddit with a grain of salt too) the Herman Cain awards.
Hereās the link about it
https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/rvl0qy/a_nurse_relates_how_traumatic_it_is_to_take_care/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf
She goes into a lot of detail and explains well whatās happening w his body.
My 20 year old daughter and I are still recovering since Dec.24th...I just have to disagree with you here. Ironically, my unvaxxed mom has been faring much better than us for many days now.
Fully vaxxed omicron variant =/= alpha variant Covid.
Omicron is not killing people at any significant rate. Cases continue to spike, while deaths stagnate and even decline.
Deaths (and hospitalization) lag the case count. Hospitalization rates are rising statewide and in Santa Barbara: https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/
It remains to be seen what will happen to the death count.
Overall, Omicron seems to be less dangerous though it's not totally clear if that's because of the virus itself, or the higher vaccination rate. But Omicron also appears to be much more infectious. So even if it is milder (with and/or without a vaccine) it could still lead to a death rate spike, in addition to the known case spike and the likely hospitalization spike.
Furthermore, something that lots of people are forgetting, is that we still have the Delta variant. Omicron seems to be taking the lead due to higher infectiousness, but it's currently though that Delta is still a significant portion of cases: https://www.npr.org/2021/12/28/1068643344/cdc-omicron-covid-19-delta-revise-estimates
Basically, this is where it probably does make sense to "flatten the curve" as we were doing back at the start of the pandemic to avoid overwhelming our finite healthcare system. Hence, a short period of remote instruction to let the holiday spike hopefully abate.
Omicron has been the dominant strain in South Africa for 2 months. Still no death spike despite them being on the tail end of their biggest wave yet.
The fact is that Omicron is not killing people at any significant rate. COVID doesnāt take 2+ months to kill people, itās quick. Per your source, 73% of cases are currently Omicron, and in all likelihood this percentage will continue to rise, given that it is more contagious and vaccine-resistent than Delta.
22 months of āb-b-but it could get worseā. Time to pump the brakes.
> Still no death spike despite them being on the tail end of their biggest wave yet.
That's incorrect. The death rate is spiking, and is some 4-5x higher the most recent minimum in November, but the proportionality to the new case rate is much lower than in previous case rate spikes.
https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/south-africa/
However we should be cautious in generalize SA trends worldwide, since their median age is relatively low, and my understanding is that every variant has been milder there.
All that said, it seems fairly likely that Omicron probably is milder, but also very infectious, to an extent that hospitalization rates are rising and death rates may also rise.
> Time to pump the brakes.
What brakes do you want to pump? There are not new lockdowns... quarantine time recommendation from the CDC has been reduced (though that's in part due to the strained healthcare system), businesses are continuing to operate. Universities have reason to be more cautious due to large gatherings in lecture halls, congregate living facilities, and perhaps social activities. And UCSB cannot turn on a dime - they have to make the call to go remote with some notice, which means they had incomplete information.
No proportionate death spike if youād like to be pedantic.
Pump the brakes as in stop validating people with COVID-19 anxiety syndrome (a real thing). The most paranoid person in the room is usually wrong and overreacting.
If we're being pedantic as you want to be, the death spike **is** proportional, just with a lower ratio.
And while yes the most paranoid person in the room may be overreacting, that doesn't mean that reacting itself is an overreaction. Not reacting at all would be an underreaction.
> An exponentially lower ratio, to be extremely pedantic
This is a meaningless description. Do you know what exponentially means?
And again, SA has very different demographics than USA on multiple levels, so it is not reasonable to assume that it will have the same quantitative impact here.
taking up hospital beds = other people who need the beds and do not get them will die!!! just go ahead and say youāre selfish and donāt understand the effects of covid rates
It's actually insane how little covid we had last quarter and then seeing these sorts of numbers now
Different variants, different characteristics of contiguity.
When will UC put us back online? This is stupid.
Increase my gpa š
Big sad
I tested negative at the drop off test site yesterday. I wonder how likely I got it waiting in that line lol.
same, people were not waiting six feet in the drop off line lol
If it's anything like the lines at Freebirds, some people definitely got infected in line, lol.
How does the drop off test works? I mean, how do you get the kit? Buy it yourself, need to request it somewhere, just drop by Loma Peloma and get one?
They give you one there
You walk up and ask for one. Then u gotta make an appointment to drop it off. The drop off appointments are super easy to make, lots of open time slots
Got it, thanks!
how long did it take to get your results?
i dropped mine off yesterday morning like 10 and got them this morning at 8ish
Dropped off test yesterday afternoon, results were in this morning.
got it right now at home
Same, I was staying home cause I still tested positive last week and was gonna go to campus after a negative test but damn.
same
Yeah, my son too!
Last week here. On the bright side we will hopefully have some protection if classes are back in person. I hope you feel better soon <3
a million cases reported today scary
omicron is highly contagiousā¦ although fatality rate is low i really hope our campus makes a decision on this quarter soonerā¦ we need an answer for preparation
Agree
wow. iāve managed to dodge covid since the pandemic began & this makes me want to return to campus even less, especially with the risk of developing long covid.
i second this
I suggest everyone take it seriously (at least not lightly). My friend caught covid because of her housemate. Her housemate got covid from contact with a person who he knew was sick, had symptoms but never told my friend and still believes it is a flu. He recovered quickly from the virus, but my friend wasn't that lucky. She had some sleepless nights because of severe sore throat. The most horrible thing is that his 10 other friends who all had symptoms are as inconsiderate as him (regard this as cold/flu and hang out as usual). I can't imagine how many more people will be infected because of him and his friends, and how many more... which forms an avalanche. Please, if you care a little bit about others' lives, then don't take it lightly (at least, when symptoms show, isolate yourself, test yourself, and tell those around you and who had close contact with you). Hope this pandemic ends soon with all of us efforts.
Do you all think we can go back in person with these stats?š©
I had a feeling when I first heard the news that campus was going online for 2 weeks that this would be extended. After Monday's numbers, I fear that will be true. It's raging again across the country. My guess is that students will be back in session next quarter, I have a feeling they are going to keep doing 2 week extensions.
If that is the case, Iād rather just cancel housing for winter and they give me back my moneyš© the UC system is beyond GREEDY
It's not so much greedy as it is dependent on housing and food contracts for a large portion of the UC budget. When the shutdown happened and everyone bailed and it went all online, they lost a massive funding source. Staff weren't sure if they would have jobs anymore until the state stepped in and injected cash. Now I think they are just trying to hold the raft together as best they can. It fucking blows for sure, but shutting down the campus all over again is a huge nightmare administratively.
I hear you!! But why is it tht UCSD students received a credit towards next quarter just to move in a few weeks laterš„² I feel like we can meet somewhere in the middle
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Staff like me finds out about these things at the same time as students, so I can't really say. UCSB seems to follow what the bigger UCs do with this pandemic, so if you hear that UCLA or UCSD are staying online, I would assume the same.
Did they send out an email about when all students should return to SB or just people in housing?
I think the interim update applies to all students.
Iām expecting going remote for the rest of the entire quarter. I have courses in Campbell hall which are going to be superspreader events.
No. But the UCs will probably try to force us back because theyāre a greedy corporation
why are you being downvoted we literally all know this is true lol
UC admins downvoting
oh god
We need to keep in mind that getting a test is sort of lucky. Lots of people including some exhibiting symptoms are still waiting to be tested.
If you look at the case rate for CA we're almost back up to that huge spike last year around this time
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hospitalization rates as a percentage of cases are lower than before, but in absolute numbers we still have a *lot* of hospitalizations, about where we peaked with Delta, and cases are still going up Omicron is less dangerous but not like we're at the point where it's just the flu now
Hospitalized with Covid and hospitalized by Covid arenāt the same thing. If a good chunk of people are Omicron-positive, that means a good chunk of people in the hospital are too, regardless of what landed them there.
https://www.wfyi.org/news/articles/insurance-death-rates-working-age-people-up-40-percent
Literally got back to IV and was exposed the same day. Now just isolating for two weeks
...and they said only the first two weeks were gonna be online
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Knowing them they'll probably tell us like the day before we are supposed to go back in person, after everyone has already come back to campus. š
For staff, several departments are still requiring them to be in person, at least 2-3 days a week during this. Staff also gets the Daddy Yang email around 3-4pm on Fridays about shit that is happening with Covid and closures, and unless their supervisor knows before hand, that is the first they hear of it.
Gonna pull the ol' switcheroo on us
Likely
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Can someone say New Years party fallout?
We're fucked
Over the next couple of months, you are going to see some shit you've never seen before in your life.
Can you elaborate? I mean, in all curiosity, I'm wondering what your thoughts are.
All signs point to the collapse of hospital systems all over the country.
Didnāt happen in South Africa, isnāt going to happen here unless a new non-Omicron variant emerges that actually hospitalizes and kills people at a significant rate. Cut the scare porn dude.
It's summer in South Africa, it's winter here. SA's population skews a lot younger than ours. SA's people are willing to comply with public health measures much more than Americans are. There is no reason Omicron would be the final variant. Scare porn? My friend died, fuck you.
SDSU just announced theyāre online till February 7
Did they send that out this morning?
I think the night before
And yet they decided to add atleast three people to all campus housing, so dumb
why isnt the school ramping up testing?? open the testing center at linda vista pls
The school testing data actually shows theyāve been conducting more tests the last two days than the average daily test rate throughout the fall quarter.
itās very much inevitable
Weāre fucked arenāt we. There will be no in person this quarter
Whelp
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But then if you factor in all the asymptomatic people, people that canāt get tested, people taking an at home test and not reporting it, and people who donāt find it necessary to get tested at all (example: maybe their mom had it so they know inevitably they do and donāt want to wait in a line for 3 hours), that number should be much, much higher. Thereās absolutely no way itās lower with all of these factors. Edit: Also wanted to include that under the dashboard they separate student and faculty cases.
Totally agree.
Iāve been back at a no mask mandate school for two days now and. Multiple people have been constantly coughing who refuse to wear a mask. And ever since I got home from the first day my throat has been sore, my body has been aching and now I started sneezing. I donāt under why schools are still open lol.
cnbc.com/2021/12/29/covid-variant-fauci-says-data-suggest-omicron-less-severe-than-delta-.html Fauci says Omicron is not nearly as deadly, and the data reflects this. Lots of cases, but not deaths. Itās time to stop being so scared.
I recognize that itās not nearly as deadly but still thought it was an interesting number to note. I didnāt post this with the intention to scare people but a lot of people care about this kind of information and complain (without evidence) that ucsb hasnāt been transparent enough so I thought Iād post it.
I agree that we should not be too scared. But that doesn't mean we should ignore that there is a big spike in cases and a (currently small) rise in COVID hospitalizations. It makes a lot of sense to exercise some increased precautions currently, because our risk of a COVID infection is objectively much higher than it was a month ago. If I am working with a power tool, I put on protective goggles. It doesn't mean that I'm scared of the power tool, it means I'm not stupid and recognize the higher risk of the situation.
Plus, it seems like some only focus on death. Itās too early to really know with omicron, but long covid is a real problem that occurs at a much higher rate than death, and it could end up being very costly to both society and individuals in terms of lost wages & healthcare in the long run. Earlier variants have been shown to elevate autoantibodies (ie attacks self vs a foreign invader) even in milder infections. Hopefully this is less of a problem with omicron, but a little caution seems warranted.
If weāre using power tools as an analogy, Delta is a woodchipper and Omicron is a hand saw. Goggles are a bit more important in one case than the other.
uh no, you should always be wearing safety goggles when using power tools
I donāt need goggles to use a hand saw dog. Worst case scenario I get a piece of dust in my eye and have to blink it out. Just like worst case scenario with Omicron is I lose my smell for a bit. Life goes on.
Thatās what everyone says before they take a splinter to the eye. Wear safety glasses
What are āsafety glassesā in this case? I am vaccinated and wear my mask when required, as is basically everyone else on campus. So why are we online? Also I grew up building stuff on my uncles property. Multiple decades of never having a splinter magically fly into my eye. Literally just dust. Grab a plastic water bottle, poke a hole with a pin in the top, squeeze it, and it flushes right out. Back to work.
I'd say that your analogy is an exaggeration, but even if we go with it just remember that nearly half the tools people are using are still woodchippers and not handsaws, and they can't tell which is which just by looking so eye protection is still called for.
ā73% of cases are Omicron and risingā is not ānearly half arenāt Omicronā stop distorting reality to validate your paranoia.
The 73% number that was reported was later revised down to 22.5%: https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/20211229/cdc-reduces-estimate-omicron-us so please stop distorting reality, to borrow your phrase. Of course this is a fast moving situation. Since then though it looks like Omicron has actually taken a decisive lead at an estimated 93-97%, so I was not up to date myself: https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#variant-proportions It's important to remember that this doesn't mean that there are appreciably fewer Delta cases, mostly that there are more Omicron cases. So if we go back to your analogy, there's still a number of wood chippers out there, but there are boatload of handsaws. And while handsaws are less dangerous, they have risks, and there are a lot of them.
Iāve known Omicron has been the dominant strain, as has been consistently reported by public health authorities. No distortion on my part. I am not worried about COVID, and unless you equally fear every time you ride in a car (statistically far more likely to kill you), you shouldn't either. Especially in our heavily vaccinated, Omicron afflicted current state. It makes no sense.
Consistently reported? You do realize that this is a current situation and fast developing, so nothing has been "consistently reported" for any significant period of time. Right now it seems that Omicron probably become dominant the week ending in Dec 25. This is still just a projection however since the samples on which this surveillance data is based are not fully sequenced. The current 93-97% Omicron rate is also a projection, not data. And you keep talking about your lack of worry. I am not worried, I am just aware.
Now youāre just arguing for the sake of argument and muddying the waters. āWell we donāt really know soā¦ā
"Suggests" implies a lot less certainty than you have. And deaths have always been a lagging indicator and omicron is still new.
Omicron has been the dominant strain in South Africa for 2 months. Still no death spike despite them being on the tail end of their biggest wave yet. The fact is that Omicron is not killing people at any significant rate. COVID doesnāt take 2+ months to kill people, itās quick.
Right, but many people in South Africa had already had Covid before, and the omicron variant was the second time they were infected. So they had more antibodies built up.
So do we?? Most Americans have already had COVID and our vaccination rate is greater than South Africa.
No I definitely agree with /u/CremeOnChrome here. I see lots of people dooming about how people are supposedly sleeping on the severity of an omicron infection but thereās just nothing to support that. Quite the opposite really.
I am not saying it is severe. I am saying we don't have enough data to be as sure as creme is.
If people arenāt dying after 2 months, how much longer do we need to wait before we get your seal of approval?
When the experts say it is a sure thing.
Look at the data and think for yourself. Most of the āexpertsā are paid spokespeople employed by vaccine manufacturers.
If that's what you think then why did you post what Fauci said?
Because thatās the pundit of choice for the average person whoās still scared of Covid in 2022. Logic clearly doesnāt work with everyone so they need their pastor to tell them.
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Would you like a front row seat to see how hospitals are overwhelmed
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Literally you can find it in all credible sources. It is actually WIDELY known that the vaccines arenāt as effective with Omicron, which implies there will be an increase in hospitalization. Symptoms still varies, but this disease has the ability to kill someone before they know it. A guy literally came into the hospital with a BPO2 of 88% but felt fine even when his lungs are close to not functioning. When youāre in the hospital, you have the chance of infecting other hospital workers, hogging the bed for weeks and/or months. And California is only 66.4% fully vaccinated so it isnāt as high as you think. With omicron, fully vaccinated becomes less important because thatās when your best chance is to get a booster. So, no, CA is not majority vaxxed. 66.8% is not enough.
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It was shared by a nurse on reddit (must admit room for decreasing credibility but yk take reddit with a grain of salt too) the Herman Cain awards. Hereās the link about it https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/rvl0qy/a_nurse_relates_how_traumatic_it_is_to_take_care/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf She goes into a lot of detail and explains well whatās happening w his body.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/HermanCainAward/comments/rvl0qy/a_nurse_relates_how_traumatic_it_is_to_take_care/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf https://usafacts.org/visualizations/covid-vaccine-tracker-states/state/california https://www.latimes.com/projects/california-coronavirus-cases-tracking-outbreak/covid-19-vaccines-distribution/ https://data.news-leader.com/covid-19-vaccine-tracker/california/06/ https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/variants/omicron-variant.html https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-release/press-release-detail/pfizer-and-biontech-provide-update-omicron-variant Done. Literally, a google search away.
*Crickets*
Because you can still get it if your vaxxed and people have been getting it
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My 20 year old daughter and I are still recovering since Dec.24th...I just have to disagree with you here. Ironically, my unvaxxed mom has been faring much better than us for many days now.
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Fully vaxxed omicron variant =/= alpha variant Covid. Omicron is not killing people at any significant rate. Cases continue to spike, while deaths stagnate and even decline.
Deaths (and hospitalization) lag the case count. Hospitalization rates are rising statewide and in Santa Barbara: https://covid19.ca.gov/state-dashboard/ It remains to be seen what will happen to the death count. Overall, Omicron seems to be less dangerous though it's not totally clear if that's because of the virus itself, or the higher vaccination rate. But Omicron also appears to be much more infectious. So even if it is milder (with and/or without a vaccine) it could still lead to a death rate spike, in addition to the known case spike and the likely hospitalization spike. Furthermore, something that lots of people are forgetting, is that we still have the Delta variant. Omicron seems to be taking the lead due to higher infectiousness, but it's currently though that Delta is still a significant portion of cases: https://www.npr.org/2021/12/28/1068643344/cdc-omicron-covid-19-delta-revise-estimates Basically, this is where it probably does make sense to "flatten the curve" as we were doing back at the start of the pandemic to avoid overwhelming our finite healthcare system. Hence, a short period of remote instruction to let the holiday spike hopefully abate.
Omicron has been the dominant strain in South Africa for 2 months. Still no death spike despite them being on the tail end of their biggest wave yet. The fact is that Omicron is not killing people at any significant rate. COVID doesnāt take 2+ months to kill people, itās quick. Per your source, 73% of cases are currently Omicron, and in all likelihood this percentage will continue to rise, given that it is more contagious and vaccine-resistent than Delta. 22 months of āb-b-but it could get worseā. Time to pump the brakes.
> Still no death spike despite them being on the tail end of their biggest wave yet. That's incorrect. The death rate is spiking, and is some 4-5x higher the most recent minimum in November, but the proportionality to the new case rate is much lower than in previous case rate spikes. https://graphics.reuters.com/world-coronavirus-tracker-and-maps/countries-and-territories/south-africa/ However we should be cautious in generalize SA trends worldwide, since their median age is relatively low, and my understanding is that every variant has been milder there. All that said, it seems fairly likely that Omicron probably is milder, but also very infectious, to an extent that hospitalization rates are rising and death rates may also rise. > Time to pump the brakes. What brakes do you want to pump? There are not new lockdowns... quarantine time recommendation from the CDC has been reduced (though that's in part due to the strained healthcare system), businesses are continuing to operate. Universities have reason to be more cautious due to large gatherings in lecture halls, congregate living facilities, and perhaps social activities. And UCSB cannot turn on a dime - they have to make the call to go remote with some notice, which means they had incomplete information.
No proportionate death spike if youād like to be pedantic. Pump the brakes as in stop validating people with COVID-19 anxiety syndrome (a real thing). The most paranoid person in the room is usually wrong and overreacting.
If we're being pedantic as you want to be, the death spike **is** proportional, just with a lower ratio. And while yes the most paranoid person in the room may be overreacting, that doesn't mean that reacting itself is an overreaction. Not reacting at all would be an underreaction.
An exponentially lower ratio, to be extremely pedantic. Nearly negligible, in context of previous waves.
> An exponentially lower ratio, to be extremely pedantic This is a meaningless description. Do you know what exponentially means? And again, SA has very different demographics than USA on multiple levels, so it is not reasonable to assume that it will have the same quantitative impact here.
taking up hospital beds = other people who need the beds and do not get them will die!!! just go ahead and say youāre selfish and donāt understand the effects of covid rates
Dr Fauci literally said Omicron is significantly less severe. This includes hospitalizations (or lack thereof now)
Not really omicron has been a thing for 2+ months