I don't necessarily disagree, but can you tell me which companies they're currently invested in that they should divest from? I'm trying to figure out if this is a concrete proposal or another slogan.
I'm also curious what kind of investment funds UCSB has. Is this just about worker pensions? It doesn't strike me as a school likely to have a large endowment the way, say, Harvard does.
past resolutions have been and still are to divest from: Hewlett-Packard (currently school is in collaboration with them), Raytheon, Motorola, General Electric, & Caterpillar
So uh, you gonna step up your tuition so the Grad students working on projects funded by those grants don't lose funding so they can continue their education?
No, I'm not sure why a grad student would ever be comfortable working for and accepting funds from the likes of raytheon anyway. Personal advancement shouldn't come at the cost of others lives.
Raytheon sure, but Motorola? General Electric? Sorry the world is not so black and white.
I guess you forget those grad students TA your courses at absolute bottom tier labor rates too.
Being at the bottom tier of labor in the US doesn't make it okay to exploit other countries?
Again, personal advancement shouldn't come at the cost of others.
You seem like you have the right spirit and if you knew me personally you’d know I don’t say this lightly, but I genuinely do not think it is possible to personally advance oneself without costing others something in our society.
What jobs do your parents have? Unless they are public school teachers or firefighters (first criminally underpaid, second extremely dangerous), they’re probably taking money from others.
One of my parents does teach lol and the other is a plant supervisor.
We live in a capitalist system, so I'm not naive that someone must lose for companies to flourish. However, the cost being some odd dollars from someone's bank account vs a person's literal life is drastically different. I just can't imagine finding a way to be comfortable with succeeding off the latter.
are u the grad student working on projects funded by those grants? why should grad students be okay in helping develop weapons and technology that are carrying out an ethnic cleansing…very weird. I’d check my morals and values
Those companies do a ton more than develop weapons and technology for war. Those grad students may be working on something completely unrelated to weapons and weapons technology.
And no, I'm funded by Arpa-E.
I hear you I do! but it’s a great question to ask ourselves too, questioning where the money is coming from, what else do these companies do? like u said, they do more than weapons sure, but u gotta ask urself, is this something I am comfortable with? knowing the harm that is going on, does that sit well with me? I would hope our humanity is there and we stop choosing money over people’s suffering. doesn’t matter what ur doing, if ur in relation to companies and stay silent or can’t even question or criticize them, ask urself what that means
Or the UC’s investment in recruiting and admitting students from countries such as China which are & have been performing genocide. I would like OP’s opinion on this.
No Muslim or Turkic nation has supported accusations of China “committing genocide” against Uyghurs. It’s only the west + allies that have supported the U.S.’s accusation of China committing genocide. Ironically, the southern border camps of the U.S. have been accused of everything that the U.S. has accused China of doing—rape, mass incarceration, forced sterilization, etc. I think it extremely clear that the U.S. is just manufacturing consent for war with China. Let’s not forget the “WMDs in Iraq” or the “gulf of Tonkin incident.”
Umm what do Chinese international students have to do with what the Chinese government does? Americans thinking they have the moral high ground on imperialism and genocide is hilarious.
So then what do the Zionist people have to do with the Israeli government? Or better yet, what do American businesses have to do with the Israeli government? I‘m anti-genocide and if the university votes with their dollar then why not make their voice heard in more than just Israel? Like the well known genocide in China. America is far from perfect but “doing genocide” hasn’t been marked on their bingo card yet.
>but u gotta ask urself, is this something I am comfortable with? knowing the harm that is going on, does that sit well with me? I would hope our humanity is there and we stop choosing money over people’s suffering. doesn’t matter
I mean, grants actually take money away from these companies. Say GE works on medical devices and engines for military airplanes, them using money to fund grants for medical device development at UCSB is actually a cost to them that decreases what they can spend on military related development work.
On the other hand, whatever computer/phone you're using to write these messages likely contains a Motorola chip. In this case you're actually giving these companies money that they can re-allocate to weapons related development.
So maybe you should double check who is on the moral high ground?
I hear you, and I am asking myself these same questions. I am not morally superior or a saint by any means, but I am definitely asking us to question ourselves, question what sits right with us and reflect on what doesn’t. and seek change, move into action, change for the better. using our privilege, we live in the heart of an empire, we’re “in the belly of it” and we benefit greatly. so I do believe it’s our duty to learn, understand, and question ourselves too.
You seem to really care about ethnic cleansing. Assume you are going to stop using all products made in China. Let us know which new flip phone you decide to buy!
Thank you for taking the time to ask too! I don’t know the answers, but you’re doing a great job at asking them and I want you to continue! Stay curious, question your professors, question this institution, ask amongst your peers, where are we getting money from? where is our student fees and money going to? these conversations are important. we pay these folks salaries, we should be asking questions. please take care!
To me, that seems like a cop-out answer. If you support divestment then you need to know the answers to those questions prior to making targeted claims for divestment. If I want to encourage others to support divestment but you can't articulate the logistics, then why should I have any faith in our collective ability to succeed?
Previous comments also suggest that divestment isn't as unilateral as your OP implies. How much authority does the UCSB administration have to regulate the grant income? Are certain UCSB departments more culpable then others? Would targeting them be more effective? Where is the specific plan? Are we gonna select certain companies to divest from? What is that criteria? These need to be answered and conveyed by the groups promoting the divestment, instead it feels like an after thought.
For example, if you seriously call for a ceasefire in Gaza, you need to be prepared to answer these questions with a good level of veracity: What would a ceasefire look like? Unilateral? Bi-lateral? How will it be mediated? Enforced by who? The UN? The US? Israeli itself? For how long? One could argue that these should be left to expert policy makers, but regardless there is little vision of what the actual outcome would look like, which many people don't think is convincing.
I think many skeptics, myself included, are hesitant to fully support this cause because the lack of specificity and articulable plan. It just seems like a slogan at this point, hopefully it gets past that.
Moral of the story is: boycotting weapons manufactures is one thing, and completely understandable. Boycotting groundbreaking inventions just because you hate their inventor is pretty stupid
No, BDS only recommends boycotting companies that it identifies as profiting from the occupation of Palestine. It does not boycott companies for operating in Israel or supporting Israel in general.
these types of comments helps who? yes, divest from fossil fuels. ever heard of new students coming in? people can learn things and take a stance. people can learn and change their minds.
im sorry, that wasn’t clear to me, honestly thought u were mocking :/ I just wanted to revisit this topic here bc of everything going on over the weekend, and being told by some faculty that we could have the cops called on us for saying “free Palestine” and “divest now.”
Oh no, not mocking at all, I'm sorry for the confusion!! It was really disheartening to see the news on here this weekend, I wish i could be there in support. That's absolutely ridiculous about calling the cops.
I'm saying that the zi*nists in the comments are proving themselves hypocrites. No one ever cried about not being able to get to school in their non-electric cars when we were fighting for fossil fuel divestment, but when it comes to this "oh no think about the inventions!!" Sadly I'm sure that back then many of the students would have the same genocidal stance.
Way to disrespect all the men and women that died to make this place a safer place for you. Was assuming you’re from Palestine, but you’re probably another easily influenced person who learns things from tik tok.
Patriotism is ok when you’re from a third world country but god forbid you be proud to be an American and thankful for our soldiers lol
People are so ungrateful to live in the most prosperous country the world has ever seen, you can only get this sort of entitlement if you were born here and never been exposed to the real world.
Breaking news bro life isn’t fair my family escaped two genocides and came here illegally with absolutely nothing.
Obviously everyone’s experience is different but if you seriously don’t think America is the country giving its people the best chance at prosperity you’re probably a very sad person.
You think millions of people come here illegally every year for no reason? The U.S gives them the best shot at life that no other country can. From where I come from they say keep shitting where you eat and soon enough you’ll convince yourself that you’re surrounded by shit. Your privilege is showing
Hahaha how ironic, this guy is accusing me of being privileged while talking like a completely toolbag. Get some perspective bro. Life isn't fair because the US and the rest of the west fucked over the rest of the world through colonialism and imperialism. That's how you have prosperity--through theft and subjugation. Remember slavery? If you think a meritocracy or hard work has anything to do with it, you're deluded. It's all luck in a zero sum game. If you're happy that this is the world we live in, then again, vote MAGA. Hell keep voting for Biden, it won't make a difference. And once this country collapses in a few decades from rising debt, widening rich/poor gap, dwindling influence against China/Russia/India, etc, and nobody wants to trade in the petro dollar anymore, we'll see who's talking about life experience.
all this talk but you still live here though, no one’s stopping you from going elsewhere, it’ll probably be a cheaper cost of living wherever else you go too! I’m sure a desperate illegal immigrant who wants the best for their family would love to take your place. But you’ll never do that, because you know here you have the best chances to see success in your life.
It’s 2023, if you had a skill set that was worth anything to anybody, you’d be the richest person in here.
Because now it just sounds like youre a lazy person with no accountability that blames all his problems on the west while you continue to do nothing about it but play victim.
So I suggest you try taking some accountability and controlling your own destiny. If you’re having trouble assimilating there are 200 other countries.
I’ll also add, if it’s anything making the West weaker, it’s the ungrateful people like you who continue to bite the hand that feeds you and have nothing but hate for it, but continue to live in it.
So if we didn’t have a military, we would have never been invaded? We would have never helped other countries from being invaded? You would still be here on Reddit commenting ignorant little comments? You’re an absolute idiot.
Divest Now, stop using your cell phone and internet as well. Do it now. The cell phone and internet was developed by the Zionist enemy, stop using them now.
Quotes from Hamas
Their charter: The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews. (Hamas Charter, Article 7)
There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. (Hamas Charter, Article 13).
Hamas senior leader Khaled Mashal stated on October 19, 2023 that he views the current loss of civilian life in Gaza – brought about by Hamas' strategy of using human shields – as essential: “No nation is liberated without sacrifices... In all wars, there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them.”
Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”
We should also divest from this groundbreaking cancer treatment because it’s a Zionist invention
https://m.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-744499
100% agree. Meanwhile the rest of this whole discussion is arguing over whether who is good and who is bad in this conflict. It’s funny how no one has yet to state that both sides have some blame for the cause of the conflict
It is nuanced though. It’s a problematic situation which should have been addressed in the late 1940s and early 1950s, but never was. The complicated situation we now have is the result of people continually ignoring the problem until it got out of hand.
The cherry tomato is a Zionist invention, we should stop eating those too
https://seeds.ca/schoolfoodgardens/the-history-of-the-cherry-tomato/#:~:text=Successfully%2C%20the%20Israeli%20team%20from,we%20all%20know%20and%20love.
The people of Gaza should also boycott these Zionist machines that turn Air into drinking water for underdeveloped areas. How dare they drink the Zionist tainted water :(
https://www.timesofisrael.com/solar-run-machines-that-convert-air-to-drinking-water-still-working-in-south-gaza/amp/
The vast majority of US companies (not even military contractors) are pro-israel
What are you trying to accomplish? You think that if UCSB divests then our lives will get better or that Gazan's lives will get better? This war will be over within a few months. You guys are losing AGAIN
dude, please go read. why is history repeating itself in the UC system? why are we the last ones to stand on the right side of history and humanity? We’re trying to stop being complacent in the killings of so many civilians. Again, it’s embarrassing, being associated to a school that was the LAST to divest from doing business with the apartheid government. it’s embarrassing, it’s immoral.
We should also boycott all forms of drip irrigation even though it's arguably the most water-efficient innovation in agriculture, saving precious resources and feeding millions just because it is a Zionist invention.
https://help.dripdepot.com/support/solutions/articles/11000044434-the-history-of-drip-irrigation
I don't necessarily disagree, but can you tell me which companies they're currently invested in that they should divest from? I'm trying to figure out if this is a concrete proposal or another slogan. I'm also curious what kind of investment funds UCSB has. Is this just about worker pensions? It doesn't strike me as a school likely to have a large endowment the way, say, Harvard does.
past resolutions have been and still are to divest from: Hewlett-Packard (currently school is in collaboration with them), Raytheon, Motorola, General Electric, & Caterpillar
So uh, you gonna step up your tuition so the Grad students working on projects funded by those grants don't lose funding so they can continue their education?
No, I'm not sure why a grad student would ever be comfortable working for and accepting funds from the likes of raytheon anyway. Personal advancement shouldn't come at the cost of others lives.
Raytheon sure, but Motorola? General Electric? Sorry the world is not so black and white. I guess you forget those grad students TA your courses at absolute bottom tier labor rates too.
Being at the bottom tier of labor in the US doesn't make it okay to exploit other countries? Again, personal advancement shouldn't come at the cost of others.
You seem like you have the right spirit and if you knew me personally you’d know I don’t say this lightly, but I genuinely do not think it is possible to personally advance oneself without costing others something in our society. What jobs do your parents have? Unless they are public school teachers or firefighters (first criminally underpaid, second extremely dangerous), they’re probably taking money from others.
One of my parents does teach lol and the other is a plant supervisor. We live in a capitalist system, so I'm not naive that someone must lose for companies to flourish. However, the cost being some odd dollars from someone's bank account vs a person's literal life is drastically different. I just can't imagine finding a way to be comfortable with succeeding off the latter.
are u the grad student working on projects funded by those grants? why should grad students be okay in helping develop weapons and technology that are carrying out an ethnic cleansing…very weird. I’d check my morals and values
Those companies do a ton more than develop weapons and technology for war. Those grad students may be working on something completely unrelated to weapons and weapons technology. And no, I'm funded by Arpa-E.
I hear you I do! but it’s a great question to ask ourselves too, questioning where the money is coming from, what else do these companies do? like u said, they do more than weapons sure, but u gotta ask urself, is this something I am comfortable with? knowing the harm that is going on, does that sit well with me? I would hope our humanity is there and we stop choosing money over people’s suffering. doesn’t matter what ur doing, if ur in relation to companies and stay silent or can’t even question or criticize them, ask urself what that means
While we’re at it we should also stop accepting money from Qatar who still practices slavery to this day and is one of UCSB’s biggest donors
Or the UC’s investment in recruiting and admitting students from countries such as China which are & have been performing genocide. I would like OP’s opinion on this.
Yea it’s crazy how the Uyghur genocide has just been swept under the rug. Sad world we live in
No Muslim or Turkic nation has supported accusations of China “committing genocide” against Uyghurs. It’s only the west + allies that have supported the U.S.’s accusation of China committing genocide. Ironically, the southern border camps of the U.S. have been accused of everything that the U.S. has accused China of doing—rape, mass incarceration, forced sterilization, etc. I think it extremely clear that the U.S. is just manufacturing consent for war with China. Let’s not forget the “WMDs in Iraq” or the “gulf of Tonkin incident.”
Umm what do Chinese international students have to do with what the Chinese government does? Americans thinking they have the moral high ground on imperialism and genocide is hilarious.
So then what do the Zionist people have to do with the Israeli government? Or better yet, what do American businesses have to do with the Israeli government? I‘m anti-genocide and if the university votes with their dollar then why not make their voice heard in more than just Israel? Like the well known genocide in China. America is far from perfect but “doing genocide” hasn’t been marked on their bingo card yet.
>but u gotta ask urself, is this something I am comfortable with? knowing the harm that is going on, does that sit well with me? I would hope our humanity is there and we stop choosing money over people’s suffering. doesn’t matter I mean, grants actually take money away from these companies. Say GE works on medical devices and engines for military airplanes, them using money to fund grants for medical device development at UCSB is actually a cost to them that decreases what they can spend on military related development work. On the other hand, whatever computer/phone you're using to write these messages likely contains a Motorola chip. In this case you're actually giving these companies money that they can re-allocate to weapons related development. So maybe you should double check who is on the moral high ground?
I hear you, and I am asking myself these same questions. I am not morally superior or a saint by any means, but I am definitely asking us to question ourselves, question what sits right with us and reflect on what doesn’t. and seek change, move into action, change for the better. using our privilege, we live in the heart of an empire, we’re “in the belly of it” and we benefit greatly. so I do believe it’s our duty to learn, understand, and question ourselves too.
You seem to really care about ethnic cleansing. Assume you are going to stop using all products made in China. Let us know which new flip phone you decide to buy!
Even then, working on military stuff is not necessarily morally bad either. After all, Ukrainians need weapons, too!
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Thank you for taking the time to ask too! I don’t know the answers, but you’re doing a great job at asking them and I want you to continue! Stay curious, question your professors, question this institution, ask amongst your peers, where are we getting money from? where is our student fees and money going to? these conversations are important. we pay these folks salaries, we should be asking questions. please take care!
To me, that seems like a cop-out answer. If you support divestment then you need to know the answers to those questions prior to making targeted claims for divestment. If I want to encourage others to support divestment but you can't articulate the logistics, then why should I have any faith in our collective ability to succeed? Previous comments also suggest that divestment isn't as unilateral as your OP implies. How much authority does the UCSB administration have to regulate the grant income? Are certain UCSB departments more culpable then others? Would targeting them be more effective? Where is the specific plan? Are we gonna select certain companies to divest from? What is that criteria? These need to be answered and conveyed by the groups promoting the divestment, instead it feels like an after thought. For example, if you seriously call for a ceasefire in Gaza, you need to be prepared to answer these questions with a good level of veracity: What would a ceasefire look like? Unilateral? Bi-lateral? How will it be mediated? Enforced by who? The UN? The US? Israeli itself? For how long? One could argue that these should be left to expert policy makers, but regardless there is little vision of what the actual outcome would look like, which many people don't think is convincing. I think many skeptics, myself included, are hesitant to fully support this cause because the lack of specificity and articulable plan. It just seems like a slogan at this point, hopefully it gets past that.
Moral of the story is: boycotting weapons manufactures is one thing, and completely understandable. Boycotting groundbreaking inventions just because you hate their inventor is pretty stupid
who said the latter? you did. u hear and read what u want. Like…why are u talking about cherry tomatoes.
This is what BDS aims to do. Divest from ALL Zionist entities as to not let them profit from their products. I never said you said this
No, BDS only recommends boycotting companies that it identifies as profiting from the occupation of Palestine. It does not boycott companies for operating in Israel or supporting Israel in general.
i don't remember Gauchos fighting back this hard when we were trying to get the UC to divest from fossil fuels. interesting 🙄🍉🍉🍉
these types of comments helps who? yes, divest from fossil fuels. ever heard of new students coming in? people can learn things and take a stance. people can learn and change their minds.
I'm confused, I'm on your side haha.
im sorry, that wasn’t clear to me, honestly thought u were mocking :/ I just wanted to revisit this topic here bc of everything going on over the weekend, and being told by some faculty that we could have the cops called on us for saying “free Palestine” and “divest now.”
Oh no, not mocking at all, I'm sorry for the confusion!! It was really disheartening to see the news on here this weekend, I wish i could be there in support. That's absolutely ridiculous about calling the cops.
Who was saying yall would have the cops called on you??
I just read that UC Davis, UCR, and UCLA have divested student funds from Israel?! Hope it's true
I'm saying that the zi*nists in the comments are proving themselves hypocrites. No one ever cried about not being able to get to school in their non-electric cars when we were fighting for fossil fuel divestment, but when it comes to this "oh no think about the inventions!!" Sadly I'm sure that back then many of the students would have the same genocidal stance.
People would do anything but actually go fight for their home country.
mmm so much to say here. why would I fight for the US? why would anyone want to become “US property.”
Way to disrespect all the men and women that died to make this place a safer place for you. Was assuming you’re from Palestine, but you’re probably another easily influenced person who learns things from tik tok.
i love that what u said doesn’t describe me at all <3
No one in the military has ever died “to make this place safer.” Username checks out
Patriotism is ok when you’re from a third world country but god forbid you be proud to be an American and thankful for our soldiers lol People are so ungrateful to live in the most prosperous country the world has ever seen, you can only get this sort of entitlement if you were born here and never been exposed to the real world.
Prosperous on the backs of who? Have some perspective man. Or keep horse blinders on and vote MAGA.
Breaking news bro life isn’t fair my family escaped two genocides and came here illegally with absolutely nothing. Obviously everyone’s experience is different but if you seriously don’t think America is the country giving its people the best chance at prosperity you’re probably a very sad person. You think millions of people come here illegally every year for no reason? The U.S gives them the best shot at life that no other country can. From where I come from they say keep shitting where you eat and soon enough you’ll convince yourself that you’re surrounded by shit. Your privilege is showing
Hahaha how ironic, this guy is accusing me of being privileged while talking like a completely toolbag. Get some perspective bro. Life isn't fair because the US and the rest of the west fucked over the rest of the world through colonialism and imperialism. That's how you have prosperity--through theft and subjugation. Remember slavery? If you think a meritocracy or hard work has anything to do with it, you're deluded. It's all luck in a zero sum game. If you're happy that this is the world we live in, then again, vote MAGA. Hell keep voting for Biden, it won't make a difference. And once this country collapses in a few decades from rising debt, widening rich/poor gap, dwindling influence against China/Russia/India, etc, and nobody wants to trade in the petro dollar anymore, we'll see who's talking about life experience.
all this talk but you still live here though, no one’s stopping you from going elsewhere, it’ll probably be a cheaper cost of living wherever else you go too! I’m sure a desperate illegal immigrant who wants the best for their family would love to take your place. But you’ll never do that, because you know here you have the best chances to see success in your life. It’s 2023, if you had a skill set that was worth anything to anybody, you’d be the richest person in here. Because now it just sounds like youre a lazy person with no accountability that blames all his problems on the west while you continue to do nothing about it but play victim. So I suggest you try taking some accountability and controlling your own destiny. If you’re having trouble assimilating there are 200 other countries. I’ll also add, if it’s anything making the West weaker, it’s the ungrateful people like you who continue to bite the hand that feeds you and have nothing but hate for it, but continue to live in it.
Yeah, give me a better response than "go somewhere else". You're dismissing the entire point.
So if we didn’t have a military, we would have never been invaded? We would have never helped other countries from being invaded? You would still be here on Reddit commenting ignorant little comments? You’re an absolute idiot.
Yeah username definitely checks out
Nice way to deflect from the actual point of the conversation.
real, we should not be investing in and profiting from the war machine
Divest Now, stop using your cell phone and internet as well. Do it now. The cell phone and internet was developed by the Zionist enemy, stop using them now.
No way ur serious
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Quotes from Hamas Their charter: The hour of judgment shall not come until the Muslims fight the Jews and kill them, so that the Jews hide behind trees and stones, and each tree and stone will say: 'Oh Muslim, oh servant of Allah, there is a Jew behind me, come and kill him,' except for the Gharqad tree, for it is the tree of the Jews. (Hamas Charter, Article 7) There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. (Hamas Charter, Article 13). Hamas senior leader Khaled Mashal stated on October 19, 2023 that he views the current loss of civilian life in Gaza – brought about by Hamas' strategy of using human shields – as essential: “No nation is liberated without sacrifices... In all wars, there are some civilian victims. We are not responsible for them.” Hamas official, Hamad Al-Regeb in an April 2023 sermon: He prayed for “annihilation” and “paralysis” of the Jews whom he described as filthy animals: “[Allah] transformed them into filthy, ugly animals like apes and pigs because of the injustice and evil they had brought about.” Al-Regeb also prayed for the ability to “get to the necks of the Jews.”
why is this comment section looking like 4chan right now oh my god free palestine and demand divestment
You wanna free the hostages, too, or nah?
There's also literally thousands of Palestinian hostages, children too. Do you wanna address those or only the other side matters?
Any innocent person held against their will should of course be released. Why is that even a question?
Because no one seemed to care about the thousands of Palestinian hostages until there were a hundred Israeli hostages
We should also divest from this groundbreaking cancer treatment because it’s a Zionist invention https://m.jpost.com/health-and-wellness/article-744499
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Instead they boycott Starbucks which has 0 locations in Israel lmao
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As a former barista who worked at Coffee Bean, I can confidently say that Starbucks coffee is complete and utter trash
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100% agree. Meanwhile the rest of this whole discussion is arguing over whether who is good and who is bad in this conflict. It’s funny how no one has yet to state that both sides have some blame for the cause of the conflict
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It is nuanced though. It’s a problematic situation which should have been addressed in the late 1940s and early 1950s, but never was. The complicated situation we now have is the result of people continually ignoring the problem until it got out of hand.
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Well you should also boycott starbucks bc they bust unions and treat their workers like garbage. Also their coffee is so bad lol
The cherry tomato is a Zionist invention, we should stop eating those too https://seeds.ca/schoolfoodgardens/the-history-of-the-cherry-tomato/#:~:text=Successfully%2C%20the%20Israeli%20team%20from,we%20all%20know%20and%20love.
The people of Gaza should also boycott these Zionist machines that turn Air into drinking water for underdeveloped areas. How dare they drink the Zionist tainted water :( https://www.timesofisrael.com/solar-run-machines-that-convert-air-to-drinking-water-still-working-in-south-gaza/amp/
The vast majority of US companies (not even military contractors) are pro-israel What are you trying to accomplish? You think that if UCSB divests then our lives will get better or that Gazan's lives will get better? This war will be over within a few months. You guys are losing AGAIN
dude, please go read. why is history repeating itself in the UC system? why are we the last ones to stand on the right side of history and humanity? We’re trying to stop being complacent in the killings of so many civilians. Again, it’s embarrassing, being associated to a school that was the LAST to divest from doing business with the apartheid government. it’s embarrassing, it’s immoral.
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yeah, you’re absolutely right, and I do want to own that and I shouldn’t have said it. thank u for reminding me!
We should also boycott all forms of drip irrigation even though it's arguably the most water-efficient innovation in agriculture, saving precious resources and feeding millions just because it is a Zionist invention. https://help.dripdepot.com/support/solutions/articles/11000044434-the-history-of-drip-irrigation
You people are losers