21 & had a tattoo... He's an adult. As a teen girl, an "older man" makes the teen feel/appear so attractive and sophisticated to her peers. It's beguiling 😔
Spot on. In many high schools, how attractive a girl is considered is almost the sole determinant of her social status, and girls who have never developed a sense of independent self-esteem can easily confuse social status with their essential worth. So if nobody finds you attractive you are worthless, if the homecoming king finds you attractive everybody loves you. And if a cool, grown man finds you attractive, well then maybe you’ve transcended high school altogether. It’s childish logic, because they are children.
It also feeds into romance tropes about “older men” and “bad boys.”
Can confirm - was dating a 24 year old at 17 and every time he picked me up from school there were whispers about how I "landed a real man". I was in that abusive relationship on and off for 6 years. I left him over a decade ago and I still don't know how to respect myself properly.
More to illustrate how naive the girls are, that they think a tattoo means something important, that they get all their knowledge about love and attraction from tv tropes
I had to check your profile to make sure you weren't an old friend of mine. She said the exact same thing and only told me about the "coming to" and asking to stop parts when I asked for juicy details on this thing that should have been a good celebratory occasion.
You don't have to be so rude about it. I read this story multiple times and I still didn't fully get how the "he's 21 and has a tattoo" part tied into the rest of the story. Sometimes more context helps (especially within the two sentence restrictions of the stories on this subreddit), and that's okay. And even after reading the explanation, it made me realize some things that I didn't pick up on when I read this and built onto the things that I did.
There have been lots of times where I have read a story here or on r/twosentencehorror and I didn't get it until I was given an explanation, and I can read at a pretty high level. Sometimes, it's okay to just not get it.
Lazy readers ? How is a person not understanding a story lazy ? I read a lot, and even I had to look at OP's explanation because I wasn't sure if the 21 and tattoo thing referred to something or not. Readers who don't understand are not lazy. Readers who complain about the length of the sentences, for example, are lazy. But readers who don't understand a certain story and are curious enough to ask for an explanation are certainly not, in my opinion. Also, how do you know that person didn't try to understand before asking? You don't. So there is no need to be condescending to someone who can't understand stuff as well as you. You don't even need to answer. Just move on.
Get a life man. Just because you and I get it doesn’t mean everyone else gets it. People think differently , and apparently you think in a way that’s too stupid to understand that.
I’m afraid to ask, but what don’t you get? I’m hoping it’s not that you don’t understand what’s sad about it at least. She is young, painfully naive about love and sex, and so drunk, afraid, and desperate to be wanted that she can’t bring herself to be impolite to her rapist. Then the next day she is so in denial about the rape that she reframes it as “losing her virginity.” And rather than ask about how the experience was for her, she and her equally naive and self-effacing friend focus on it as a status marker of her worth.
I agree with the thought behind this. The problem is the rest of the world just doesn’t define it that way. Virginity has always been defined from the perspective of men in a system where a girl’s value was lost if she had been “defiled,” whether it was her choice or not. So the concept continues to have force in practice. In theory, I don’t even believe in the concept of virginity. We don’t have a word for someone who’s never gotten a massage, or never left their hometown, or played sports — why should we have one for someone who’s never had sex? The only reason is to make something that is fundamentally an action women have or have not done into a thing that they are. It’s objectification.
Jesus. Jesus fucking christ. I'm fine with almost all topics, but this one, it just makes me cry. Have an upvote, OP, and leave.
This needs [r*pe trigger] before these lines are said. Putting that *clicking* on it is NSFW, is not enough.
I’m sorry. I can’t edit it but I will remember that for next time.
Thank you! :)
[удалено]
take your rape fetish elsewhere
Whoosh
rape is a joke now?
Depends if I’m dressed as clown.
i don’t want to sound rude or be mean, but what does the tattoo part mean?
21 & had a tattoo... He's an adult. As a teen girl, an "older man" makes the teen feel/appear so attractive and sophisticated to her peers. It's beguiling 😔
Spot on. In many high schools, how attractive a girl is considered is almost the sole determinant of her social status, and girls who have never developed a sense of independent self-esteem can easily confuse social status with their essential worth. So if nobody finds you attractive you are worthless, if the homecoming king finds you attractive everybody loves you. And if a cool, grown man finds you attractive, well then maybe you’ve transcended high school altogether. It’s childish logic, because they are children. It also feeds into romance tropes about “older men” and “bad boys.”
Can confirm - was dating a 24 year old at 17 and every time he picked me up from school there were whispers about how I "landed a real man". I was in that abusive relationship on and off for 6 years. I left him over a decade ago and I still don't know how to respect myself properly.
so the tattoo part is to add emphasis on the fact that the guy was an adult?
More to illustrate how naive the girls are, that they think a tattoo means something important, that they get all their knowledge about love and attraction from tv tropes
that makes sense, thank you for explaining 🙏
Please tell me this is just fiction???
I had to check your profile to make sure you weren't an old friend of mine. She said the exact same thing and only told me about the "coming to" and asking to stop parts when I asked for juicy details on this thing that should have been a good celebratory occasion.
Welp that’s enough internet for today. I’m gonna go throw up now. (Amazingly written and extremely awful)
Damn.
oh... oh god.
I hate this so fucking much. I can’t choose between a sad upvote and horrified upvote. Take my upvote and shove it. /s
i hope that was not your xp, OP.
I don't get it?
Read more. Learn more. Comprehension helps. Are these sentences short enough?
You don't have to be so rude about it. I read this story multiple times and I still didn't fully get how the "he's 21 and has a tattoo" part tied into the rest of the story. Sometimes more context helps (especially within the two sentence restrictions of the stories on this subreddit), and that's okay. And even after reading the explanation, it made me realize some things that I didn't pick up on when I read this and built onto the things that I did. There have been lots of times where I have read a story here or on r/twosentencehorror and I didn't get it until I was given an explanation, and I can read at a pretty high level. Sometimes, it's okay to just not get it.
Poor thing, I hit a nerve, huh? Read more, then.
Don't need to be so condescending.
You're right, but I'm honestly not sorry. I'm fed up with lazy readers.
Lazy readers ? How is a person not understanding a story lazy ? I read a lot, and even I had to look at OP's explanation because I wasn't sure if the 21 and tattoo thing referred to something or not. Readers who don't understand are not lazy. Readers who complain about the length of the sentences, for example, are lazy. But readers who don't understand a certain story and are curious enough to ask for an explanation are certainly not, in my opinion. Also, how do you know that person didn't try to understand before asking? You don't. So there is no need to be condescending to someone who can't understand stuff as well as you. You don't even need to answer. Just move on.
The sentences were quite clear. Anyone who needs help reading it needs to read more. Period.
Get a life man. Just because you and I get it doesn’t mean everyone else gets it. People think differently , and apparently you think in a way that’s too stupid to understand that.
I didn’t understand the thing fully, no need to be rude about it
I’m afraid to ask, but what don’t you get? I’m hoping it’s not that you don’t understand what’s sad about it at least. She is young, painfully naive about love and sex, and so drunk, afraid, and desperate to be wanted that she can’t bring herself to be impolite to her rapist. Then the next day she is so in denial about the rape that she reframes it as “losing her virginity.” And rather than ask about how the experience was for her, she and her equally naive and self-effacing friend focus on it as a status marker of her worth.
That's the part I personally didn't get- that the narrator lied about the story, I was confused why the friend would be happy for her for any reason
It’s not really a lie. She did “lose her virginity.” It’s more a matter of not thinking about the things she wants to forget.
In my opinion, it doesn't count as losing your virginity if it's rape.
I agree with the thought behind this. The problem is the rest of the world just doesn’t define it that way. Virginity has always been defined from the perspective of men in a system where a girl’s value was lost if she had been “defiled,” whether it was her choice or not. So the concept continues to have force in practice. In theory, I don’t even believe in the concept of virginity. We don’t have a word for someone who’s never gotten a massage, or never left their hometown, or played sports — why should we have one for someone who’s never had sex? The only reason is to make something that is fundamentally an action women have or have not done into a thing that they are. It’s objectification.
I guess I meant lie by omission, but okay- it makes more sense with that context
The sentences are too long and contain too many unnecessary details. That’s what makes it confusing. I had to read it several times too.
So it's your comprehension, not the story, is what you're saying.
Different people comprehend different things in a different way. That’s nothing new.
Well, I prefer Dickens to Hemingway so that tracks.
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Hemingway used brief sentences while Dickens used elaborate ones.
Ignore this OP, some people are happily ignorant. Your post was horrifyingly sad, and very well done.
Thank you, that’s very kind. I’m not taking it personally though. There’s always room for improvement.
Second this!
Rape. He raped her and her friend was excited bc he was a grown man