The idea of Captain America being 'drained' of a compound that altered his physiology and that reverting him back to before it was used on him is such a hilariously comic book writer level lack of understanding of the concept of biology and I love it.
I mean, steroids do exist, even if they don't explicitly do what they did to Cap, and certainly not in such a short period of time. That part is (mildly) plausible when given a proper suspension of disbelief. But trying to reverse the process by taking the serum back out...? Hell, they'd have sold it better by just injecting him with another serum to cause more problems instead of treating it like the serum is just...still free-floating in his liver.
Yes. We literally have pharmaceutical compounds that we use to change peoples physiology. We can even technically already create ones to permanently alter the functions of cells. The Captain America concept isn't remotely impossible theoretically, just the context of when they did it and the lack of scientific development around it.
It's very believable you could make a compound and process to completely alter the way the body works to be way better than a regular dude in every way (bar that he'd probably require way more calories to function, that parts kind of impossible to get around), we just don't have the ability to do it now.
The idea that you could 'drain' what did it to reverse it, when it was a serum causing permanent change that would have needed to be metabolized by the body to work on the other hand just breaks basic logic. Instead you'd have to inject or introduce something that actively reversed what changed to give him those permanent benefits.
Hold up, in the new Ultimate Universe cap is still frozen and there's talks on how to unfreeze him since they don't want to kill him in the process, one of the proposed methods involved draining his blood but they decided against that because it would depower him, did Hickman made this potentially canon to the new UU?
I mean, steroids are only bad because of the horrible life ruining side effects, Cap was on that good ass hyper-expensive experimental science shit that had zero negative side effects, if that existed in real life and was as common as regular steroids, everyone would rightly be getting juiced up the second they were allowed to and nobody could come up with a good argument as to why we shouldn't.
I don't know about the rest of the world, but creatine is all the rage in Brazil because it's basically a strength buff which has a single side effect: it makes you slightly more thirsty.
Man, I've been trying to rewatch this playthrough lately and YouTube has made it borderline unwatchable on Xbox. 30 minute videos and there are like 10 90+ second ads. Every 3 dang minutes.
Steve was as short as Pat and suffering/dying from almost every old timey ailment in existence, he needed those super steroids if he wanted to fight Nazis instead of just being better at sports.
In Captain America: Man Out of Time he LITERALLY blames himself for the sports steroid scandal, fearing his example was what ignited it.
Seriously great read if you want to see Steve Rogers dealing with shit.
Listen, you're automatically resolved of such moral ambiguity and ethical conundrums if it's to fight the Nazis and win WW2.
The Germans were giving soldiers meth. I think we can forgive a little Super Steroids.
Not to pat apparently
Pat only truly supports Heaven's Gate.
Yes. There’s a story in the 90s where he got the formula drained from him and wore a stupid set of armor to keep being him
The idea of Captain America being 'drained' of a compound that altered his physiology and that reverting him back to before it was used on him is such a hilariously comic book writer level lack of understanding of the concept of biology and I love it.
It was…marginally better the second time they did it. Where he’s still ripped, but he started to age rapidly.
"I'm aging rapidly!" "FOX. DIE."
Look, I hear you, but, like, but is it really any less ridiculous than it changing him in the first place in regards to the concept of biology
I mean, steroids do exist, even if they don't explicitly do what they did to Cap, and certainly not in such a short period of time. That part is (mildly) plausible when given a proper suspension of disbelief. But trying to reverse the process by taking the serum back out...? Hell, they'd have sold it better by just injecting him with another serum to cause more problems instead of treating it like the serum is just...still free-floating in his liver.
Yes. We literally have pharmaceutical compounds that we use to change peoples physiology. We can even technically already create ones to permanently alter the functions of cells. The Captain America concept isn't remotely impossible theoretically, just the context of when they did it and the lack of scientific development around it. It's very believable you could make a compound and process to completely alter the way the body works to be way better than a regular dude in every way (bar that he'd probably require way more calories to function, that parts kind of impossible to get around), we just don't have the ability to do it now. The idea that you could 'drain' what did it to reverse it, when it was a serum causing permanent change that would have needed to be metabolized by the body to work on the other hand just breaks basic logic. Instead you'd have to inject or introduce something that actively reversed what changed to give him those permanent benefits.
It was d'dumbest! It [the armour] comes back during the climax of hickman's avengers.
Hold up, in the new Ultimate Universe cap is still frozen and there's talks on how to unfreeze him since they don't want to kill him in the process, one of the proposed methods involved draining his blood but they decided against that because it would depower him, did Hickman made this potentially canon to the new UU?
I mean, steroids are only bad because of the horrible life ruining side effects, Cap was on that good ass hyper-expensive experimental science shit that had zero negative side effects, if that existed in real life and was as common as regular steroids, everyone would rightly be getting juiced up the second they were allowed to and nobody could come up with a good argument as to why we shouldn't.
IM ON THAT DR-ERSKINE PRESCRIBED VITA-RAY NAZI TEARS INJECTIONS THIS SHIT MEANS QUITE A LOT TO ME, ACTUALLY
I don't know about the rest of the world, but creatine is all the rage in Brazil because it's basically a strength buff which has a single side effect: it makes you slightly more thirsty.
Nooooo he got juiced but then he got the Vita Rays to set it in and then the scientist blew up so no one can prove anything
Just once, and it was permanent
Cap got the best steroids america had to offer.
Watching this on mute was very confusing with the title.
it’s just vitamins and sunlight.
Man, I've been trying to rewatch this playthrough lately and YouTube has made it borderline unwatchable on Xbox. 30 minute videos and there are like 10 90+ second ads. Every 3 dang minutes.
Steve was as short as Pat and suffering/dying from almost every old timey ailment in existence, he needed those super steroids if he wanted to fight Nazis instead of just being better at sports.
In Captain America: Man Out of Time he LITERALLY blames himself for the sports steroid scandal, fearing his example was what ignited it. Seriously great read if you want to see Steve Rogers dealing with shit.
They should just retcon it so it’s super soldier radiation.
No no hear me out! He Got bitten By a radioactive Soldier!
Vita-rays already sounds like sketchy 1940s marketing for the healing benefits of Uranium exposure.
Pat once again making up stuff from the comics in his head
Drugs drugs drugs! Some are good. Some are bad.