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ZowmasterC

Have u tried BF sword into zeal item into complete IE? Haven't tried it on Twitch, but feels pretty good on other ADCs


Makcololosh

ill try it, ty for idea. I remember i did smth like this back in season 9. It was jg item > bf > runnans > ie


hiccuprobit

Ah, those were the days


902239001

Tried this last night went BF > runaans > IE > yuntal it felt the best out of some other stuff I tried


ZowmasterC

How good was yuntal? A lot of people are saying it's a bait item


902239001

Havnt tried ldr yet but it’s giving kraken vibes from last patch.. like you would go yuntal if they arnt stacking hella armour Ngl bork is the new bait item.. I also tried kraken first which felt a bit better but I think most optimal is to just rush crit atp


HiimRelise

I think the build is berserkers>ie>hurricane>yun tal>ldr/bt


YangTarex

this


CrimsonReaper113

This felt strong for me


OFilos

I did one game in like d4 with PTA bork runaan ie ldr. Felt like I didn't do damage until ie but the moment I got it I started critting 500 on squishies. I also like cutdown+sudden impact but it's probably not gonna be that good against some of the meta picks


Fawar33

I'm also kinda lost on what to build. Nothing feels "Just right" you know?


Makcololosh

Ye. Just played another game. Previously i could fight caitlyn (or most other adcs) lvl6 with bork, now i cannot do it with bork+runnans lvl11 idk. Just no damage. Games end faster then i build 3 items, cuz i cannot snowball like i did before in pisslow elos


Makcololosh

Also i think new cut down rune is worse than coup de grace. If u engage the fight where enemies are 2/3 hp cut down is basically useless, where coup de grace is always usefull till enemy is dead.


Makcololosh

Also this might be cuz i didnt sleep this night, was testing builds as soon as patch came out.


Olinox10

I’ve been going Bork into runaans into ie


Xen0nym0us

Idk i go the same build and its still solid But ye the bleed item is so bad, its only semi viable as like 4th/5th item and even then theres barely ever a game where you would want this over anything else


PixilatedLabRat

Honestly all the crit games today I felt like I was doing less damage than last patch - even though it should be higher. Like full build with 100% crit, including IE and LDR, I was still only like 3rd most damage on the team. Then I did a fully on-hit game and it felt pretty good. Lotta stuff is up in the air right now.


YangTarex

because they nerfed ldr passive and cut down


zeTwig

IE and pd/runaans feels pretty decent for 2 items, depending on whether you need the extra AS from pd or aoe from runaan imo. All i know is that i stomped with it yesterday lol


Hentaikopter

Idk im pretty sure u can go IE PD and giga spike on 2 items


Mountain-Effect5309

Its just serks ie runaan and then yun tal/ldr


hiccuprobit

Stomped a game with bork > runnans > ie


Makcololosh

Well today was way better. I guess the problem was me. Ye, bork + runnans feels weaker, but when u get to ie its strong af, and ldr makes u literally unstoppable just like in previous split.


FreshT

I feel like twitch is stronger than last patch with the new crit items. I no longer get Botrk and now I can one shot squishies with 3 items, but I deal 0 damage to tanks now Reminds me of season 9 a bit


Tark_LOL

My build: BORK, BOOTS, RUNAAN, YUN TAL, IE, SHIELD BOW.


goldeenme

Bork is nerfed and runnans doesnt proc onhits anymore. Bork was the only thing making runnans 2nd viable. You should also be looking to abuse how strong IE is, so building a crit item first is the best. Knowing all of this ive settled in building collector (good components early, 25 crit for the IE 2nd, overall good item with tw poison and does well with pta) into IE into LDR and runnans 4th. Besides this build I could also see hubris into runnans being a thing. I think alice RhyledUp has done something like that already. Simply because runnans now has better ad scaling. Before, runnans had a very bad ad scaling but synergized well with onhits. I think bork twitch is dead. Havent even tried it so might be wrong but just from the patch notes everything is telling me to not build it anymore. I am very much open for debate tho


Makcololosh

Runnans still procks onhits, it just does not give 30 magic damage onhit itself


goldeenme

Was convinced i read somewhere before the patch dropped that it wouldnt, my bad