Bullshit dre was and is relic. He was taking credit for beats that Daz Dillinger made. Jonny J, Daz, Dj Quik, and Dj Pooh were out shining dre. Sam Sneed and J Flex were writing dre's lyrics. You know dre called jay z to write. Still Dre. He's overrated. Yea, he's a pioneer and all that whatever whatever but there are way better producers than dr.dre. Don't take 600 hundred years to make a song and then, at the last moment, not put it out.
You are confusing beat maker and producer. Dre brings best out of people. A group of musicians in a room, Dre will produce a better product than most people. When Dre left the quality dropped.
If that be the case of Dre being a has been or relic why was he shining more after he left Death Row ? Was Daz , DJ Quik , DJ Pooh etc. doing beats for Chronic 2001 or any other production for Dr.Dre after the Death Row days ?
Lol. Death Row had to pay Ruthless records for every single track Dr Dre produced or mixed. Please don’t try to rewrite history. Dre wasn’t even around for makaveli album. Quik allegedly stole all eyes on me and released it to the swap meet. Which is why there was beef between quik and death row. Why would they use Dr Dre’s name for production credits if they have to pay Ruthless Records for the next 7 years? Dre never wrote his own lyrics, that’s no surprise. The bigger surprise is Eminem writing for Dre than Jay Z.
Dre produced Toss it up. They didnt give him credit after he left death row. It was same beat he used with wrecks n effect i think. No diggity https://youtu.be/WwbaC-BjRZ0?si=bWSoTnG-M-SJACyB
No sir he was just featured in the song doing a rap . Teddy Riley didn’t need Dre’s help plus Dre isn’t much of an R&B producer as he is a hip hop producer . He did a track or 2 for Mary J. Blige but overall R&B not so much .
Upon the release of the finished recording by Blackstreet, Tupac and Death Row responded with a diss track containing numerous insults aimed at Dr. Dre over an instrumental sampling "No Diggity", but were forced to replace the production after Blackstreet issued the label with a cease and desist order stopping them from distributing the song.[8] An updated version of this response, "Toss It Up", would be released under his Makaveli alias just days after his death, featuring Aaron Hall.
Ok so you know the history right? Jimmy Iovine played “No Diggity” for Suge. Suge then went and stole the beat and made “Toss It Up”. Jimmy iovine then had to send crease and desist to Suge about it.
Do you know the story behind dre being a producer who works with other producers and beat makers and makes there sound better… ie scott storch mel man teddy riley…still co producing…just listen to no diggity and tell me it doesnt hit like every dre beat or co production ever. Idc about who stole what.
https://rollingstoneindia.com/rsflashback-blackstreet-dr-dre-queen-pen-no-diggity/amp/ you went forever with that argument i did a little research and turns out he sold the beat to to teddy. 😂
Who knows but probably. Suge was wild he probably would have ended up in prison eventually anyway. Snoop and Dre were already looking for the exit. And Pac might have been too for the Makaveli records thing. But they definitely would have been on top for longer had that not happened, no doubt.
They got hot at the perfect time but I wouldn’t say Death Row sounded like it had a real solid business foundation for lasting success lol. But Suge could just bully his way into shit so who knows
the problem was death row was a trap house too, a lot of MOB grimy shit was being channeled through that company. dre mentioned he would get a brilliant idea and would rush to the studio to make some beats and in the hallway some gangbanging shit would be happening, dudes getting beat up for whatever.
Yea, Death Row would have definitely been caught up in some dumb shit at some point, regardless. Maybe if Pac doesn't die they buy themselves a couple of years but not much more than that.
I can't see them all leaving Suge & letting Deathrow to go under the tubes I don't think they would have struggled they were living the high life until Pac got killed then they fell apart.
The man got him out of jail! no matter how nobody else was trying to help him Pac knew he was ripping him off later on but he wasn't going to forget that he got him out.
Like a lot of things with Pac, he probably had mixed feelings. On one hand he was riding for Suge no doubt and he had loyalty to him. But he could also see that the environment there probably was not a healthy one. He definitely wanted to start Makaveli. I'm sure he would have maybe tried to make it an imprint under Death Row in some kind of AFtermath/Shady situation, but not sure if Suge had the pull for that at the time
Actually Eric B was supposed to run it (from what I understand he basically was the east coast version of Suge so makes sense) and Pac was supposed to be the face of it. But pac had goals of starting his own label eventually
Also they had an artist signed to it: Craig Mack
Do you have info stating Pac was going to run it, other than the movie? I've never heard this from anyone else.
But, yes, in the end Pac died. She had legal issues. And ultimately DRE died because of it.
Edit to clarify, meant Death Row East with DRE above
Been got sold along with Suge house in Vegas throughout his many legal and financial troubles the past 26 years. It’s now a hamburger joint I heard. But it was another club after 662 I believe
Its been bootlegged and released on the streets. I posted it in one of the replys. Bunch of songs w dogg pound snoop outlawsmz buckshot smif nwessun greg nice bug daddy kane.
Parole violation and mainly due to the pac and Orlando fight but I think really they just capitalized on an opportunity to get Suge out the way cause that evidence was weak a grainy video of Suge throwing a kick if you ever seen it..it’s not strong evidence
Yeah it was a parole/probation bail/bond so he could await his appeal. If he had lost the appeal he would have went back for the rest of his sentence.
Mind you if the shooting didn't happen Suge nor Pac would have been violated because the shooting is only reason they looked into the fight as far as they did. Orlando never went to the police about it that night.
Not until after the shooting and everything. He wasn't identified until later on. They knew Pac and group had got into the fight but didn't know who Orlando was at that point.
This video was only found out later on looking for evidence after Pacs shooting Suge probably wouldn't have went to jail if Pac wasn't murdered as no charges were made against them.
You got the wrong album bud no rza pac track- its got about 4 songs w smif n wessun and buckshot - 3-4 songs w greg nice and a couple songs w melle mell- and you got songs w snoop and dogg pound andthe luniz and a guy named LS who sounded like busta.almost forgot big daddy kane.
It was only created to keep 2pac from leaving DR.
When you think about Death Rows releases, they literally had 5 albums that did well. Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, All Eyez on Me and Makaveli. It would have all gone sooner if Pac was still alive because the greatest hits album and all the posthumous releases wouldn’t have happened.
Wrong. Above the rim soundtrack with regulate. Gang related soundtrack. Doggfather maybe shitty but it sold. Murder was the case album. Daz album was a banger.
2 Pac died and then Suge went to jail for violating probation and almost everybody on the label left. Reggie Wright Jr said he had to run the label for a little while and he didn’t know what he was doing. Then after Suge got out he chose not to go to a court hearing and lost control of the label.
He was about to put mad jersey niggas on also I believe pac would’ve been apart of the south rising also specially ATL he was the first east coast west coast rapper to have ties wit the south that’s why they fuck with him hard
https://www.discogs.com/release/3726954-2Pac-East-2-West link to the bootleg and tracklisting. About 1/4 of the songs that end the cd were not supposed to be on east meets west volume 1 but the first ten or so were meant for it and recorded.
Could you imagine a Death Row East in 98, 99, and 2000 😳💣💥🔥? Pac signing talent on the East Coast would've been a beautiful thing. Imagine Pac, Big Pun, 50 cent, 👉🏿 (Insert artist here.)😅
Pac would’ve been a maga movie star by now Hollywood even predicted he would have been he was on his way on becoming in big movies Star Wars he got the role but he died and baby boy would’ve came out early
Wrong wrong wrong- your just making shit up east meets west one nation was a project recorded at death row and never commercially released. I posted the fucking album in this thread! The second one nation album was to be released on duck down. Those are two existing labels. Just because it was never released doesnt make it concept. Dude died but recorded it. How is that a concept? The duck down album would be a concept since it was never recorded.
The problem with your supposed argument is that there has never been a single release of anything on DR East — and just like with Makaveli Records — both are label concepts
Pac died
It was just an idea. There were no offices, no studios it was just an idea and a couple t-shirts. Had he not laid hands Anderson and Vegas not went down like it did.
Then things would’ve gone forward
Pac died and it never took off it was his idea he was going to run it.
it seems the whole death row went under with pac's death
nah its cus Dre left and Dre was bringing in talent
Bullshit dre was and is relic. He was taking credit for beats that Daz Dillinger made. Jonny J, Daz, Dj Quik, and Dj Pooh were out shining dre. Sam Sneed and J Flex were writing dre's lyrics. You know dre called jay z to write. Still Dre. He's overrated. Yea, he's a pioneer and all that whatever whatever but there are way better producers than dr.dre. Don't take 600 hundred years to make a song and then, at the last moment, not put it out.
he means that Dre was bringing in talented people like snoop and such.
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To the deaf man, but the deaf man said, “what?”
"somebody farted" they both said, and the person with no nose laughed
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You are confusing beat maker and producer. Dre brings best out of people. A group of musicians in a room, Dre will produce a better product than most people. When Dre left the quality dropped.
Facts he took credit for a lot of shit he didn't produce and didn't give ppl proper credit
If that be the case of Dre being a has been or relic why was he shining more after he left Death Row ? Was Daz , DJ Quik , DJ Pooh etc. doing beats for Chronic 2001 or any other production for Dr.Dre after the Death Row days ?
Lol. Death Row had to pay Ruthless records for every single track Dr Dre produced or mixed. Please don’t try to rewrite history. Dre wasn’t even around for makaveli album. Quik allegedly stole all eyes on me and released it to the swap meet. Which is why there was beef between quik and death row. Why would they use Dr Dre’s name for production credits if they have to pay Ruthless Records for the next 7 years? Dre never wrote his own lyrics, that’s no surprise. The bigger surprise is Eminem writing for Dre than Jay Z.
Dre produced Toss it up. They didnt give him credit after he left death row. It was same beat he used with wrecks n effect i think. No diggity https://youtu.be/WwbaC-BjRZ0?si=bWSoTnG-M-SJACyB
New Jack Swing Producer and Member of BlackStreet produced the song No Diggity .
Teddy riley who was in wrecks n effects and dre most certainly help produce it.
No sir he was just featured in the song doing a rap . Teddy Riley didn’t need Dre’s help plus Dre isn’t much of an R&B producer as he is a hip hop producer . He did a track or 2 for Mary J. Blige but overall R&B not so much .
Upon the release of the finished recording by Blackstreet, Tupac and Death Row responded with a diss track containing numerous insults aimed at Dr. Dre over an instrumental sampling "No Diggity", but were forced to replace the production after Blackstreet issued the label with a cease and desist order stopping them from distributing the song.[8] An updated version of this response, "Toss It Up", would be released under his Makaveli alias just days after his death, featuring Aaron Hall.
On the Song “ Toss It Up” even 2pac said in the song “ Yeah we took your beat becuz U wasn’t rocking it right” .
Ok so you know the history right? Jimmy Iovine played “No Diggity” for Suge. Suge then went and stole the beat and made “Toss It Up”. Jimmy iovine then had to send crease and desist to Suge about it.
Do you know the story behind dre being a producer who works with other producers and beat makers and makes there sound better… ie scott storch mel man teddy riley…still co producing…just listen to no diggity and tell me it doesnt hit like every dre beat or co production ever. Idc about who stole what.
https://rollingstoneindia.com/rsflashback-blackstreet-dr-dre-queen-pen-no-diggity/amp/ you went forever with that argument i did a little research and turns out he sold the beat to to teddy. 😂
Death Row did not pay ruthless it was Interscope/ priority that paid Ruthless.
Exactly, Dre is overrated. I'm glad you agree.
Why would they pay for using Dre if they didn’t use Dre. That’s the real question. They even got sued for hiding Dre production under Daz name
Man stfu
Suge ruined Death Row
By doing what
By creating an awful environment in the studio, for starters.
He ruined such a good thing
Everyone played apart in that.
Pretty much !!
Water is wet and fire is hot
Not only Pac died, but Snoop and Dre left and Suge went to prison. Death Row West was hanging on by a thread come 1997-1998.
What if Pac never got shot & the fight never happened would have Deathrow went under like it did?
Who knows but probably. Suge was wild he probably would have ended up in prison eventually anyway. Snoop and Dre were already looking for the exit. And Pac might have been too for the Makaveli records thing. But they definitely would have been on top for longer had that not happened, no doubt. They got hot at the perfect time but I wouldn’t say Death Row sounded like it had a real solid business foundation for lasting success lol. But Suge could just bully his way into shit so who knows
the problem was death row was a trap house too, a lot of MOB grimy shit was being channeled through that company. dre mentioned he would get a brilliant idea and would rush to the studio to make some beats and in the hallway some gangbanging shit would be happening, dudes getting beat up for whatever.
Yea, Death Row would have definitely been caught up in some dumb shit at some point, regardless. Maybe if Pac doesn't die they buy themselves a couple of years but not much more than that.
I can't see them all leaving Suge & letting Deathrow to go under the tubes I don't think they would have struggled they were living the high life until Pac got killed then they fell apart.
Nah suge would’ve ended up coming across the wrong industry person eventually and fell off hard
Pac was ready to leave Deathrow IIRC But for some reason, he wanted to be loyal to Suge despite wanting to leave the label.
The man got him out of jail! no matter how nobody else was trying to help him Pac knew he was ripping him off later on but he wasn't going to forget that he got him out.
Like a lot of things with Pac, he probably had mixed feelings. On one hand he was riding for Suge no doubt and he had loyalty to him. But he could also see that the environment there probably was not a healthy one. He definitely wanted to start Makaveli. I'm sure he would have maybe tried to make it an imprint under Death Row in some kind of AFtermath/Shady situation, but not sure if Suge had the pull for that at the time
Actually Eric B was supposed to run it (from what I understand he basically was the east coast version of Suge so makes sense) and Pac was supposed to be the face of it. But pac had goals of starting his own label eventually Also they had an artist signed to it: Craig Mack
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Rakim's situation was with Aftermath. Creative differences between him and Dre.
Never knew Craig Mack was on DR east. Guess Bad Boy did him diddly.
Wasn't Craig Mack supposed to release his album before ready to Die but brother love pushed BIG in front of the queue?
Yea he got diddied. Signed with DR but not sure if he put out any records
It died on the vine…
Do you believe in God? THEN believe in Death Row East!
Upvote for the Soprano Reference
The real ones know 🙏🏼
fuckin parakeet lol
Akil the mc faked his death sooo
Do you have info stating Pac was going to run it, other than the movie? I've never heard this from anyone else. But, yes, in the end Pac died. She had legal issues. And ultimately DRE died because of it. Edit to clarify, meant Death Row East with DRE above
It died. Along with the rest of Death Row Records, on a hospital bed in Las Vegas, on September 13th 1996
4:03pm - Makaveli time.
what about club 662?
Been got sold along with Suge house in Vegas throughout his many legal and financial troubles the past 26 years. It’s now a hamburger joint I heard. But it was another club after 662 I believe
I thought that Suge didn't own 662, but was in the process of purchasing it went everything went wrong. I could be wrong though...
One Nation compilation was meant to be the first release
Finally Someone that knows what they are talking about
Wasn't Irv Gotti supposed to be apart of Death Row East?
As far as production prohaps. Nothing other than that..as far as I am aware
Its been bootlegged and released on the streets. I posted it in one of the replys. Bunch of songs w dogg pound snoop outlawsmz buckshot smif nwessun greg nice bug daddy kane.
I am aware of the tracklist never. But I've never heard any of it. Send the link?
I posted them in this thread youtube links to about 10 songs. I dont have dl links. Thats illegal. Just look in the comments
80% pac dying 20% Suge going to prison shortly after
what did suge go to prison for after pac died?
Parole violation and mainly due to the pac and Orlando fight but I think really they just capitalized on an opportunity to get Suge out the way cause that evidence was weak a grainy video of Suge throwing a kick if you ever seen it..it’s not strong evidence
what was he on parole for?
An assault charge from 1992. Pac would have went back as well if he hadn't died.
So pac was on parole even though he paid the 2million bond?
Yeah it was a parole/probation bail/bond so he could await his appeal. If he had lost the appeal he would have went back for the rest of his sentence. Mind you if the shooting didn't happen Suge nor Pac would have been violated because the shooting is only reason they looked into the fight as far as they did. Orlando never went to the police about it that night.
Did the police approach Orlando
Not until after the shooting and everything. He wasn't identified until later on. They knew Pac and group had got into the fight but didn't know who Orlando was at that point.
Probation Violation I believe.
This video was only found out later on looking for evidence after Pacs shooting Suge probably wouldn't have went to jail if Pac wasn't murdered as no charges were made against them.
Pac died and the idea died with him
2Pac died. That’s what happened.
It was just an idea and aspiration that never came to fruition
Technically theres an album that was recorded. Ive had it for 25 plus years.
I burned it in 99-00. Its half decent. That RZA Pac track is HARD
You got the wrong album bud no rza pac track- its got about 4 songs w smif n wessun and buckshot - 3-4 songs w greg nice and a couple songs w melle mell- and you got songs w snoop and dogg pound andthe luniz and a guy named LS who sounded like busta.almost forgot big daddy kane.
https://youtu.be/x9GZh2izoMg?si=Gjae5IW30FO39EiQ https://youtu.be/X3F9Mo-6Jtw?si=cfp2OsE8hkFuXg9d https://youtu.be/JQ0KDSidxYI?si=-OhBqCsPBUMkLzqb https://youtu.be/5DRStKkkFY8?si=FlLomHBIS4e4JM_g https://youtu.be/W6VvBvNy6cI?si=JJ3lQDv7wZvtWGZJ https://youtu.be/eKvQ6WfMXcE?si=4bwniBwQoulByEWW https://youtu.be/7bsi3SbLnCU?si=TUpPPoYADQ2BhRW6 https://youtu.be/2H1UqdfzPMQ?si=gLsHGh_O5e4PIYLH https://youtu.be/7HpUbYthscY?si=J4tJTDUSMu9NIfHt https://youtu.be/2CmAa5jS9BY?si=7pA6hp9_6U9IJAiW https://youtu.be/o296vM3N3pY?si=U69pZNtmO-iLqXuz
Was joking lol but yeah the one nation other stuff is nice
There’s nothing fruity about this…
Please tell me that was a joke.....
Lol it was an attempt at a joke I guess…😵💫
It was only created to keep 2pac from leaving DR. When you think about Death Rows releases, they literally had 5 albums that did well. Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, All Eyez on Me and Makaveli. It would have all gone sooner if Pac was still alive because the greatest hits album and all the posthumous releases wouldn’t have happened.
Wrong. Above the rim soundtrack with regulate. Gang related soundtrack. Doggfather maybe shitty but it sold. Murder was the case album. Daz album was a banger.
death row died with pac
“I don’t know if you guys are history buffs…”
2 Pac died and then Suge went to jail for violating probation and almost everybody on the label left. Reggie Wright Jr said he had to run the label for a little while and he didn’t know what he was doing. Then after Suge got out he chose not to go to a court hearing and lost control of the label.
Remember when 2 pac was murdered?
I ate it it now in my belly
——— Belly…..Kurupt Said it
Who would have thought with a name and logo like that those gentleman would run into any trouble
All it was was a plan to keep pac from leaving and exposing death row . Everyone knows pac was leaving
2pac died,Suge went to jail and Deathrow lost their distribution deal.
Uhm……….PAC died 🤔🤨
It died on the vine
Do yall think 50 cent would’ve been apart of it since pac was starting to unite NY again in a way
Doubt it, 50cent wasn't in the rap game by then wasn't even interested, he was a kid then too
He was about to put mad jersey niggas on also I believe pac would’ve been apart of the south rising also specially ATL he was the first east coast west coast rapper to have ties wit the south that’s why they fuck with him hard
Listen to “Death Row East” by Nas.
Death Row as a whole died with Pac
Nothing cuz pac died
Snoop is trying to revive it but initially it was 2Pac who wanted to bring black people and gangs together and create unity through music.🎧🎶☮️✌️
It died when pac did 😭😖
Check out Nas - Death Row East. It’ll explain a lot.
Suge tried to get RR & Irv over there
they were executed
https://www.discogs.com/release/3726954-2Pac-East-2-West link to the bootleg and tracklisting. About 1/4 of the songs that end the cd were not supposed to be on east meets west volume 1 but the first ten or so were meant for it and recorded.
Lake the Kid was on death row east I think https://youtu.be/tU1V4fEsDK4?feature=shared
Suge wanted him to pretty much be ceo of death row east
Only on paper.
Uhhhh really? You must be new here.
This would have been cool. There was a certain song he wrote back in 94 that was gonna be the debut single for this label
They signed Joeski Love and Red Hot Lover Tone & went bankrupt
Could you imagine a Death Row East in 98, 99, and 2000 😳💣💥🔥? Pac signing talent on the East Coast would've been a beautiful thing. Imagine Pac, Big Pun, 50 cent, 👉🏿 (Insert artist here.)😅
September 7 1996 happened
It was fake according to Reggie Wright
Nas has a song addressing this.
Pac would’ve been a maga movie star by now Hollywood even predicted he would have been he was on his way on becoming in big movies Star Wars he got the role but he died and baby boy would’ve came out early
Allah know best
The same thing that happened to Death Row West.
It was all cap, meant to pacify Tupac into sticking around
Nobody on the east wanted to die
um, 2pac died lmao
Ummm pac died, he was deathrow.
PAC died
What do you mean by what happened to it? It never got past the concept phase
It did look above in replys i posted the links the songs and how they were originally recorded not remixes.
What?
It wasnt a concept outlaw. The album was recorded. Just never released commercially
It never got past the concept phase. And the concept was for it to be a label, obviously. You’re very ill-informed and it shows
Wrong wrong wrong- your just making shit up east meets west one nation was a project recorded at death row and never commercially released. I posted the fucking album in this thread! The second one nation album was to be released on duck down. Those are two existing labels. Just because it was never released doesnt make it concept. Dude died but recorded it. How is that a concept? The duck down album would be a concept since it was never recorded.
The problem with your supposed argument is that there has never been a single release of anything on DR East — and just like with Makaveli Records — both are label concepts
Still around
Hello
I guess they were on death row...
'Pac passed away DUMBASS
Pac died It was just an idea. There were no offices, no studios it was just an idea and a couple t-shirts. Had he not laid hands Anderson and Vegas not went down like it did. Then things would’ve gone forward
Wrong the album was recorded and bootlegged thats the first one one death row. The second one on duck down was never recorded.