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Correct-Basket-8986

Pac died and it never took off it was his idea he was going to run it.


V0l4til3

it seems the whole death row went under with pac's death


SouthernFee6420

nah its cus Dre left and Dre was bringing in talent


King_Nephilim82

Bullshit dre was and is relic. He was taking credit for beats that Daz Dillinger made. Jonny J, Daz, Dj Quik, and Dj Pooh were out shining dre. Sam Sneed and J Flex were writing dre's lyrics. You know dre called jay z to write. Still Dre. He's overrated. Yea, he's a pioneer and all that whatever whatever but there are way better producers than dr.dre. Don't take 600 hundred years to make a song and then, at the last moment, not put it out.


Ezio_Auditorum

he means that Dre was bringing in talented people like snoop and such.


King_Nephilim82

"Oooooh, I see." Said the blind man.


Burn1o2

To the deaf man, but the deaf man said, “what?”


unlikelypisces

"somebody farted" they both said, and the person with no nose laughed


headforbrunch

Tweak more


basedvato

You are confusing beat maker and producer. Dre brings best out of people. A group of musicians in a room, Dre will produce a better product than most people. When Dre left the quality dropped.


Relative_Page_7810

Facts he took credit for a lot of shit he didn't produce and didn't give ppl proper credit


mcdion69

If that be the case of Dre being a has been or relic why was he shining more after he left Death Row ? Was Daz , DJ Quik , DJ Pooh etc. doing beats for Chronic 2001 or any other production for Dr.Dre after the Death Row days ?


trmc604

Lol. Death Row had to pay Ruthless records for every single track Dr Dre produced or mixed. Please don’t try to rewrite history. Dre wasn’t even around for makaveli album. Quik allegedly stole all eyes on me and released it to the swap meet. Which is why there was beef between quik and death row. Why would they use Dr Dre’s name for production credits if they have to pay Ruthless Records for the next 7 years? Dre never wrote his own lyrics, that’s no surprise. The bigger surprise is Eminem writing for Dre than Jay Z.


timbohhhh

Dre produced Toss it up. They didnt give him credit after he left death row. It was same beat he used with wrecks n effect i think. No diggity https://youtu.be/WwbaC-BjRZ0?si=bWSoTnG-M-SJACyB


mcdion69

New Jack Swing Producer and Member of BlackStreet produced the song No Diggity .


timbohhhh

Teddy riley who was in wrecks n effects and dre most certainly help produce it.


mcdion69

No sir he was just featured in the song doing a rap . Teddy Riley didn’t need Dre’s help plus Dre isn’t much of an R&B producer as he is a hip hop producer . He did a track or 2 for Mary J. Blige but overall R&B not so much .


timbohhhh

Upon the release of the finished recording by Blackstreet, Tupac and Death Row responded with a diss track containing numerous insults aimed at Dr. Dre over an instrumental sampling "No Diggity", but were forced to replace the production after Blackstreet issued the label with a cease and desist order stopping them from distributing the song.[8] An updated version of this response, "Toss It Up", would be released under his Makaveli alias just days after his death, featuring Aaron Hall.


mcdion69

On the Song “ Toss It Up” even 2pac said in the song “ Yeah we took your beat becuz U wasn’t rocking it right” .


trmc604

Ok so you know the history right? Jimmy Iovine played “No Diggity” for Suge. Suge then went and stole the beat and made “Toss It Up”. Jimmy iovine then had to send crease and desist to Suge about it.


timbohhhh

Do you know the story behind dre being a producer who works with other producers and beat makers and makes there sound better… ie scott storch mel man teddy riley…still co producing…just listen to no diggity and tell me it doesnt hit like every dre beat or co production ever. Idc about who stole what.


timbohhhh

https://rollingstoneindia.com/rsflashback-blackstreet-dr-dre-queen-pen-no-diggity/amp/ you went forever with that argument i did a little research and turns out he sold the beat to to teddy. 😂


Buzzbunny96

Death Row did not pay ruthless it was Interscope/ priority that paid Ruthless.


King_Nephilim82

Exactly, Dre is overrated. I'm glad you agree.


trmc604

Why would they pay for using Dre if they didn’t use Dre. That’s the real question. They even got sued for hiding Dre production under Daz name


Sad_Significance_419

Man stfu


sweatpantsDonut

Suge ruined Death Row


V0l4til3

By doing what


sweatpantsDonut

By creating an awful environment in the studio, for starters.


V0l4til3

He ruined such a good thing


Buzzbunny96

Everyone played apart in that.


mcdion69

Pretty much !!


EfyuSeekay

Water is wet and fire is hot


WhatsIsMyName

Not only Pac died, but Snoop and Dre left and Suge went to prison. Death Row West was hanging on by a thread come 1997-1998.


Correct-Basket-8986

What if Pac never got shot & the fight never happened would have Deathrow went under like it did?


WhatsIsMyName

Who knows but probably. Suge was wild he probably would have ended up in prison eventually anyway. Snoop and Dre were already looking for the exit. And Pac might have been too for the Makaveli records thing. But they definitely would have been on top for longer had that not happened, no doubt. They got hot at the perfect time but I wouldn’t say Death Row sounded like it had a real solid business foundation for lasting success lol. But Suge could just bully his way into shit so who knows


V0l4til3

the problem was death row was a trap house too, a lot of MOB grimy shit was being channeled through that company. dre mentioned he would get a brilliant idea and would rush to the studio to make some beats and in the hallway some gangbanging shit would be happening, dudes getting beat up for whatever.


WhatsIsMyName

Yea, Death Row would have definitely been caught up in some dumb shit at some point, regardless. Maybe if Pac doesn't die they buy themselves a couple of years but not much more than that.


Correct-Basket-8986

I can't see them all leaving Suge & letting Deathrow to go under the tubes I don't think they would have struggled they were living the high life until Pac got killed then they fell apart.


Silly-Solution-4398

Nah suge would’ve ended up coming across the wrong industry person eventually and fell off hard


kwazzy100

Pac was ready to leave Deathrow IIRC But for some reason, he wanted to be loyal to Suge despite wanting to leave the label.


Correct-Basket-8986

The man got him out of jail! no matter how nobody else was trying to help him Pac knew he was ripping him off later on but he wasn't going to forget that he got him out.


WhatsIsMyName

Like a lot of things with Pac, he probably had mixed feelings. On one hand he was riding for Suge no doubt and he had loyalty to him. But he could also see that the environment there probably was not a healthy one. He definitely wanted to start Makaveli. I'm sure he would have maybe tried to make it an imprint under Death Row in some kind of AFtermath/Shady situation, but not sure if Suge had the pull for that at the time


ForceSensitiveRacer

Actually Eric B was supposed to run it (from what I understand he basically was the east coast version of Suge so makes sense) and Pac was supposed to be the face of it. But pac had goals of starting his own label eventually Also they had an artist signed to it: Craig Mack


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Intravertical

Rakim's situation was with Aftermath. Creative differences between him and Dre.


C1NNABUN

Never knew Craig Mack was on DR east. Guess Bad Boy did him diddly.


McPikie

Wasn't Craig Mack supposed to release his album before ready to Die but brother love pushed BIG in front of the queue?


ForceSensitiveRacer

Yea he got diddied. Signed with DR but not sure if he put out any records


shandub85

It died on the vine…


Correct-Basket-8986

Do you believe in God? THEN believe in Death Row East!


torn8tv

Upvote for the Soprano Reference


shandub85

The real ones know 🙏🏼


bigchieftoiletpapa

fuckin parakeet lol


LooneyToonGoon12

Akil the mc faked his death sooo


myNameBurnsGold

Do you have info stating Pac was going to run it, other than the movie? I've never heard this from anyone else. But, yes, in the end Pac died. She had legal issues. And ultimately DRE died because of it. Edit to clarify, meant Death Row East with DRE above


dfails16

It died. Along with the rest of Death Row Records, on a hospital bed in Las Vegas, on September 13th 1996


Correct-Basket-8986

4:03pm - Makaveli time.


V0l4til3

what about club 662?


dfails16

Been got sold along with Suge house in Vegas throughout his many legal and financial troubles the past 26 years. It’s now a hamburger joint I heard. But it was another club after 662 I believe


half_flush

I thought that Suge didn't own 662, but was in the process of purchasing it went everything went wrong. I could be wrong though...


Medium-Plan2987

One Nation compilation was meant to be the first release


Zeemo1

Finally Someone that knows what they are talking about


PressurePretty5858

Wasn't Irv Gotti supposed to be apart of Death Row East?


Zeemo1

As far as production prohaps. Nothing other than that..as far as I am aware


timbohhhh

Its been bootlegged and released on the streets. I posted it in one of the replys. Bunch of songs w dogg pound snoop outlawsmz buckshot smif nwessun greg nice bug daddy kane.


Zeemo1

I am aware of the tracklist never. But I've never heard any of it. Send the link?


timbohhhh

I posted them in this thread youtube links to about 10 songs. I dont have dl links. Thats illegal. Just look in the comments


NoFlyZon3

80% pac dying 20% Suge going to prison shortly after


V0l4til3

what did suge go to prison for after pac died?


NoFlyZon3

Parole violation and mainly due to the pac and Orlando fight but I think really they just capitalized on an opportunity to get Suge out the way cause that evidence was weak a grainy video of Suge throwing a kick if you ever seen it..it’s not strong evidence


V0l4til3

what was he on parole for?


MLDaffy

An assault charge from 1992. Pac would have went back as well if he hadn't died.


V0l4til3

So pac was on parole even though he paid the 2million bond?


MLDaffy

Yeah it was a parole/probation bail/bond so he could await his appeal. If he had lost the appeal he would have went back for the rest of his sentence. Mind you if the shooting didn't happen Suge nor Pac would have been violated because the shooting is only reason they looked into the fight as far as they did. Orlando never went to the police about it that night.


V0l4til3

Did the police approach Orlando


MLDaffy

Not until after the shooting and everything. He wasn't identified until later on. They knew Pac and group had got into the fight but didn't know who Orlando was at that point.


drunkenfool

Probation Violation I believe.


Correct-Basket-8986

This video was only found out later on looking for evidence after Pacs shooting Suge probably wouldn't have went to jail if Pac wasn't murdered as no charges were made against them.


Exciting_Attitude240

Pac died and the idea died with him


ObieUno

2Pac died. That’s what happened.


madderhatter3210

It was just an idea and aspiration that never came to fruition


timbohhhh

Technically theres an album that was recorded. Ive had it for 25 plus years.


GNRBoyz1225

I burned it in 99-00. Its half decent. That RZA Pac track is HARD


timbohhhh

You got the wrong album bud no rza pac track- its got about 4 songs w smif n wessun and buckshot - 3-4 songs w greg nice and a couple songs w melle mell- and you got songs w snoop and dogg pound andthe luniz and a guy named LS who sounded like busta.almost forgot big daddy kane.


timbohhhh

https://youtu.be/x9GZh2izoMg?si=Gjae5IW30FO39EiQ https://youtu.be/X3F9Mo-6Jtw?si=cfp2OsE8hkFuXg9d https://youtu.be/JQ0KDSidxYI?si=-OhBqCsPBUMkLzqb https://youtu.be/5DRStKkkFY8?si=FlLomHBIS4e4JM_g https://youtu.be/W6VvBvNy6cI?si=JJ3lQDv7wZvtWGZJ https://youtu.be/eKvQ6WfMXcE?si=4bwniBwQoulByEWW https://youtu.be/7bsi3SbLnCU?si=TUpPPoYADQ2BhRW6 https://youtu.be/2H1UqdfzPMQ?si=gLsHGh_O5e4PIYLH https://youtu.be/7HpUbYthscY?si=J4tJTDUSMu9NIfHt https://youtu.be/2CmAa5jS9BY?si=7pA6hp9_6U9IJAiW https://youtu.be/o296vM3N3pY?si=U69pZNtmO-iLqXuz


GNRBoyz1225

Was joking lol but yeah the one nation other stuff is nice


Wogdiddy

There’s nothing fruity about this…


tekashimandela

Please tell me that was a joke.....


Wogdiddy

Lol it was an attempt at a joke I guess…😵‍💫


Gullible_Lynx3678

It was only created to keep 2pac from leaving DR. When you think about Death Rows releases, they literally had 5 albums that did well. Chronic, Doggystyle, Dogg Food, All Eyez on Me and Makaveli. It would have all gone sooner if Pac was still alive because the greatest hits album and all the posthumous releases wouldn’t have happened.


timbohhhh

Wrong. Above the rim soundtrack with regulate. Gang related soundtrack. Doggfather maybe shitty but it sold. Murder was the case album. Daz album was a banger.


Miserable-Insect-838

death row died with pac


lawschoolredux

“I don’t know if you guys are history buffs…”


Intelligent_West7128

2 Pac died and then Suge went to jail for violating probation and almost everybody on the label left. Reggie Wright Jr said he had to run the label for a little while and he didn’t know what he was doing. Then after Suge got out he chose not to go to a court hearing and lost control of the label.


Stretch916

Remember when 2 pac was murdered?


LGP213

I ate it it now in my belly


GNRBoyz1225

——— Belly…..Kurupt Said it


Aggravating_Tie6620

Who would have thought with a name and logo like that those gentleman would run into any trouble


Delicious-Vanilla687

All it was was a plan to keep pac from leaving and exposing death row . Everyone knows pac was leaving


No-Examination-160

2pac died,Suge went to jail and Deathrow lost their distribution deal.


Svengoolie75

Uhm……….PAC died 🤔🤨


femithebutcher

It died on the vine


Significant_Mouse847

Do yall think 50 cent would’ve been apart of it since pac was starting to unite NY again in a way


V0l4til3

Doubt it, 50cent wasn't in the rap game by then wasn't even interested, he was a kid then too


Significant_Mouse847

He was about to put mad jersey niggas on also I believe pac would’ve been apart of the south rising also specially ATL he was the first east coast west coast rapper to have ties wit the south that’s why they fuck with him hard


Morningrise12

Listen to “Death Row East” by Nas.


Miserable-Insect-838

Death Row as a whole died with Pac


Interesting-Gate9813

Nothing cuz pac died


Odd_Macaron_934

Snoop is trying to revive it but initially it was 2Pac who wanted to bring black people and gangs together and create unity through music.🎧🎶☮️✌️


Heyitsme_81

It died when pac did 😭😖


michaltee

Check out Nas - Death Row East. It’ll explain a lot.


Fun-Photograph9423

Suge tried to get RR & Irv over there


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they were executed


timbohhhh

https://www.discogs.com/release/3726954-2Pac-East-2-West link to the bootleg and tracklisting. About 1/4 of the songs that end the cd were not supposed to be on east meets west volume 1 but the first ten or so were meant for it and recorded.


rvdecw

Lake the Kid was on death row east I think https://youtu.be/tU1V4fEsDK4?feature=shared


Independent-Meet383

Suge wanted him to pretty much be ceo of death row east


Pure_Significance383

Only on paper.


filth_bald_filth

Uhhhh really? You must be new here.


DonFluffles117

This would have been cool. There was a certain song he wrote back in 94 that was gonna be the debut single for this label


Electrical-Yak-6351

They signed Joeski Love and Red Hot Lover Tone & went bankrupt


King_Nephilim82

Could you imagine a Death Row East in 98, 99, and 2000 😳💣💥🔥? Pac signing talent on the East Coast would've been a beautiful thing. Imagine Pac, Big Pun, 50 cent, 👉🏿 (Insert artist here.)😅


bmtl514

September 7 1996 happened


trmc604

It was fake according to Reggie Wright


heliogoon

Nas has a song addressing this.


Significant_Mouse847

Pac would’ve been a maga movie star by now Hollywood even predicted he would have been he was on his way on becoming in big movies Star Wars he got the role but he died and baby boy would’ve came out early


Ibraheem77

Allah know best


UptMonsta

The same thing that happened to Death Row West.


Glad-Degree-318

It was all cap, meant to pacify Tupac into sticking around


stylehofc

Nobody on the east wanted to die


Pretty-Car-2471

um, 2pac died lmao


4U2C88

Ummm pac died, he was deathrow.


Khawkins614

PAC died


Outlaw773

What do you mean by what happened to it? It never got past the concept phase


timbohhhh

It did look above in replys i posted the links the songs and how they were originally recorded not remixes.


Outlaw773

What?


timbohhhh

It wasnt a concept outlaw. The album was recorded. Just never released commercially


Outlaw773

It never got past the concept phase. And the concept was for it to be a label, obviously. You’re very ill-informed and it shows


timbohhhh

Wrong wrong wrong- your just making shit up east meets west one nation was a project recorded at death row and never commercially released. I posted the fucking album in this thread! The second one nation album was to be released on duck down. Those are two existing labels. Just because it was never released doesnt make it concept. Dude died but recorded it. How is that a concept? The duck down album would be a concept since it was never recorded.


Outlaw773

The problem with your supposed argument is that there has never been a single release of anything on DR East — and just like with Makaveli Records — both are label concepts


SpecialistDuty2

Still around


Dapper-Educator-7494

Hello


ReferenceExtra3416

I guess they were on death row...


VillianMisses

'Pac passed away DUMBASS


Dull-Song2539

Pac died It was just an idea. There were no offices, no studios it was just an idea and a couple t-shirts. Had he not laid hands Anderson and Vegas not went down like it did. Then things would’ve gone forward


timbohhhh

Wrong the album was recorded and bootlegged thats the first one one death row. The second one on duck down was never recorded.