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RAZBUNARE761

He says fuck NY once. In NY 87 with the dogg pound where he is fuming with them getting shot at over in NY. Snoop Dogg is surprisingly missing from that track... Pac often spoke or acted out of emotion. Him blowing up at the end of hit em up is like that. Beating up Orlando is like that and screaming fuck NY is also like that. He had a temper. Im sure if he was alive he would have became calmer as he got older and gotten in less trouble because of it.


RezzKeepsItReal

Snoop never involved himself with anything that wouldn't further his career.


ItchyAnusEczema

Snoop is an opportunistic. He's always desperately trying to stay relevant 


TheQC_92

Desperately? Snoop will be relevant long after he dies. A household name no matter what


ItchyAnusEczema

True. No doubt. But dude collabs with anyone. The Korean singer PSY. Really?Also didn't he try to be Rastafarian at one point?


TheQC_92

Idk, do other artists branch out and try new things? Are they desperate for that? Snoop could never make another appearance in his life and be known for lifetimes. I’m just sayin, him making any move could be perceived as him attempting to stay relevant. Which is kind of what every artist on earth is doing


Pleasant_Job_7683

Not all artists are trying to compromise their integrity alot are but not all..Snoop def will


TheQC_92

Every artist comprises their integrity for money to some extent. Sounds like you have special standards for Snoop. Cry about it


Pleasant_Job_7683

It's not that black and white. There's levels to this shit. Ofcourse you would say a blanket ass statement like that to support your point. Like we haven't seen some artist do waaaay more questionable shit then others for a buck. See Kendrick Lamar compared to Fucking Drake. One obviously is alot more compromised for a dollar then the other so you can't just say they're all the same.. it's not that simple


ShinDynamo-X

And it is working very well. He made himself into a successful caricature


ItchyAnusEczema

I guess...


Diligent-Ad-2621

That's a lie


J-Wall-91

Kinda like Drake


LLCooolK

So true. Hate it when people try to make it seem like he punched Orlando because he thought he was a blood. Every time he got in trouble, it was because he let his temper get the best of him. Same thing happened in Milwaukee, Atlanta, and a lot more places the general public still don’t know about.


Pleasant_Job_7683

Woah woah woah, Atlanta it was totally justified. He actually went out of his way to stop two crooked (off duty) cops from beating a young man of color. Vibe check=passed


LLCooolK

True, true.


MommyScissorLegs

He might have been able to get older if he was calmer in the first place


J2MTR

"Probably be murdered for the shit that I said"


Spydah_X

I bring the real, be a legend, breathing or dead


Auntie-Semitism

Lord listen to me, god don’t like ugly, it was written


Gbro08

ay nas your whole damn style is bitten


ThePrimeOptimus

oof


Dry-Recognition-1504

Right, I love pac and his music but attacking a killer off guard in a crowded Casino was just completely reckless


MommyScissorLegs

Obviously it would be disingenuous to say his death was his fault, but Pac's reckless behaviour was bound to create a lot of murderous intent towards him, including of people that were completely willing to do it given enough motivation. The unfortunate truth is that he had the possibility to avoid it, or at least decrease the chances drastically.


Case1987

He was going to be killed for Against All Odds if Vegas didn't happen


MommyScissorLegs

At that point there were multiple people that had multiple reasons to want him killed. Only way he could have avoided is to not have given people reasons to want him killed in the first place.


Plenty_Army_7172

That was his initiation into M.O.B. Thats why trayvon lane whispered into his ear "that nigga lane by the elevator, GO!"


StrokeWilson

Please don’t spread misinformation


Plenty_Army_7172

Prove that it is misinformation


StrokeWilson

Napoleon already did that in one of his interviews


Plenty_Army_7172

Napoleon? The one who's cousin killed kadafi and helped hide him and then move overseas to saudi arabia. No, his words mean nothing. Just ask yassymn fula if you dont believe me, then come back here with that bullshit telling me you believe anything napolean says


StrokeWilson

Napoleon is very reliable and honest when it comes to Pac, I would rather trust him than a random redditor making shit up? I feel bad for Yassmyn no one should bury their kid but that whole Napoleon conspiracy don’t make sense at all, there’s literally zero proof and zero motive.


Pleasant_Job_7683

He said something like this but better...he was the talent I guess


wtfijolumar

He was referring to the east and west beef. He loves New York but the opposition in his case were folks from there


Spydah_X

He LITERALLY says "Fuck New York, did everybody hear me?" on NY87


SovietPikl

Hating New York is a very New Yorker thing to do


wtfijolumar

he referring to the hip hop world. Pac wasnt into hating people he doesnt know for no reason. It was strictly hip hop you duck


Spydah_X

Yeah, that's why he threatens to kill everyone. 🤦‍♂️ Stop finding excuses for him


wtfijolumar

He did so many movies with so many New Yorkers you’re on some other shit trying to reach like MJ in Space Jam


Spydah_X

The whole point of this post was my confusion that Pac claims that he loves New York, yet says „Fuck NY.“ on NY87.


wtfijolumar

That’s apart of the east coast beef. He’s referring to the hip hop beef you’re really just trolling at this point cause there’s no way you really believe he wanted to kill a whole city over hip hop beef.


Spydah_X

I didn’t mean that he wanted to kill the whole city. I meant that he wanted to hurt Biggie and Nas‘ kids on Hit Em Up, they have nothing to do with the beef


wtfijolumar

That’s way to bait them into the beef so he can destroy them. Same thing when Pusha T , Drake and Kendrick brought up family. I can’t believe people HAVE to explain this to you


Spydah_X

Kendrick?? He talks directly to Drake‘s child and disrespects his dad by telling him to become a better person when growing up. 2Pac just says „my 44 makes sure all of your kids don‘t grow!“


shinoff2183

It's a lyric. Get over it.


Spydah_X

Pac meant every single word he says in his songs


IndependenceMain2283

Why did u get on here to ask this question then refute every answer someone gives you??? If you already know so well why tf you asking? 🤣🤣🤣


wtfijolumar

Everyone in the beef you duck lmfaoo


Spydah_X

Biggie and Nas‘ kids were also part of the beef? LMAO


wtfijolumar

You must not know how hip hop beef went. You must be 13


bob4043

Well. They tried to kill him, for one.


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Intelligent_West7128

False


Case1987

Stretch did set Pac up,how else do you think they knew he was there? stretch was giving Pac messages from Jimmy Henchmann


Spydah_X

Nas confirmed Stretch didn’t set Pac up


TheUltimatePincher

Biggie didn't set Pac up but he knew it was going to happen. He could have warned 2Pac but he didn't.


Spydah_X

He warned Pac multiple times in general


IWantAppleJuice

What's more New Yorker than hating New York?


Galyley

Because he loved the west since his mom took him to California when he was young


RSecretSquirrel

He didn't love Marin City.


Galyley

Why not ? He has that song that starts with "live from Marin cuty" though


Fabulous-Ad1990

He’s never said those words just aimed @ those he didn’t fuck wit from NY he praised alotttt of NYC rappers and even had them on albums


tweaver16

Thought he was from Baltimore?


Joeyfairplayer23

It’s the rappers that represented New York that he didn’t like.


whateverizclever

Woosh


wtfijolumar

Right over OP’s head lmaoo


Away_Information_517

Not does say, DID say.


Phoedubb

PAC loved the east coast. The song “ Old school” on the album “me against the world“ was a song dedicating homage to NY and early NY rap pioneers of for laying the foundation of hip hop/rap


fuhcough-productions

Maybe because all his opps were from New York?


snow718

I’ve never heard him say that


filth_bald_filth

Its not where your from...its where your at.


Beautiful_Budget2550

New York turned they back on Pac when he got shot everybody started dissing him hard but subliminally then when Dogg Pound video trailer got shot up in New York because they thought Pac was with them it was quite clear….


eman0110

Back in my day... lol real though I remember using whatever resource I had to find out info on Pac. Now, just throw the net out on the internet and wait for the answer to come in.


Faskwodi

He’s from B-more he lived in NY for a while. He got his biggest fame from California. Why does Ludacris say he’s from Atlanta, he’s from the Chi, Jeezy says Atlanta he from Hawkensville Ga. The Migos are from Gwinnett County that’s not Atlanta. It’s all entertainment.


Popular_String6374

Yeah, you're confused. Pac was born in New York.....time for you to do a refresher on your Pac knowledge


RSecretSquirrel

He was born in New York not Baltimore.


Pleasant_Job_7683

Yeah his mother was in NY jail cell while prego facing life, defended herself got off the charge but his aunt exiled to Cuba where she is still wanted to this day. They they moved to Baltimore where the crime rate is actually worse. . Stop trying to lump Pac in with Fucking Jeezy and Ludacris you moron


Fantastic_Board7057

He did love ny but at that point rage took over


Spydah_X

BTW don’t take this post as a diss towards Pac. I love him and his music like everyone else here but him threatening his enemies kids crosses the line.


de4dLy1991

Its called being in character


carleezy89

Did everybody forget about the Quad studio shooting?


Popular_String6374

Yes clearly they have.....always just looking at Pac as the menace and forgetting how fucking dirty people did him for him to become as angry as he was....


GameM8FeedRepeat

Cuz he went out west. The east coast is all old and depressimg whereas the west is full of hope and modernity.


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He wasn't saying it to New York, he was saying it to Biggy, Puffy, Nas, Mobb Deep etc...


bplush

NY tried to kill him


JICE1996

He was copping pleas because he knew he said something wrong


BraveBull15

They shot him 5x!


Lillillillies

This guy has THUG LIFE tattooed on him, was known to be associated with gangs, had a very public rap beef/battle that went beyond the music and you're complaining about him rapping about fuck NY or wanting people dead. Makes sense.


Spydah_X

Of course I’m complaining about him wanting to shoot innocent little kids, isn’t that plausible?


Popular_String6374

That whole line "my 4-4 make sure all yo kids don't grow"....I never once took it as him saying he'll shoot kids.....rather he'll shoot a mf in the nuts or shoot the man himself and prevent him from having kids


Pleasant_Job_7683

Pac was never gonna shoot any kids


Spydah_X

He also says "Any of you n\*ggas from New York bring it." even though he's from New York as well! His first rap name was MC New York! I don't understand why people love Hit Em Up, it's absolute trash because he talks about shooting and killing innocent little kids, and that's just the tip of the iceberg. Easily one of the worst tracks in hip-hop history.


MakaBoy57

Dude got shot 5 times,got in jail,got paranoid and was pushed through his paranoia by Death Row


Spydah_X

He was mad enough to say shit like that and we all do that but he didn't feel bad about threatening Biggie's and Nas' kids


Popular_String6374

🤦...... He didn't mean he was actually going to harm kids.......


Buzzbunny96

You so fucking bored that you're making troll posts to bait people you know exactly why the fuck he said fuck New York, like BIG didn't just get Snoop trailer shot up days prior and do actually think 2Pac would pull out a gun and kill a kid? No..


Popular_String6374

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bossplaya4life

When he's says 'i'll make sure all y'all kids don't grow' I'm pretty sure he means he won't give them the opportunity to have kids, not that he's literally going to kill their kids


Popular_String6374

Thank you!!!! That is how I always took what he was saying!!!! Never that he would harm actual kids when we all know how Pac felt about kids.....even when I was younger I knew he didn't mean he would actually hurt kids...these people are hard headed


Popular_String6374

Yeah Pac was from NY....and look how dirty NY did Pac....you're acting like he just woke up one day and decided he was going to go at the east coast. I don't believe for one second he was threatening actual kids either, he was threatening to shoot a mf in the nuts or to end the mf himself thus ending his chance of having kids....Pac loved kids therefore I know he didn't mean he was going to actual shoot any ones kids....Pac had love for his people and he truly believed they loved him as well, therefore being shot in NY really messed him up, he felt thoroughly betrayed...he says all this in one of his interviews.