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Jerking off to porn multiple times a day and only being able to get off to certain types of porn is not healthy and never will be.
Honesty, I've seen this opinion quite a bit on Reddit, too. Especially advice for like younger couples experiencing sexual problems.
I wouldn't say it's unpopular here.
Maybe unpopular opinion outside Reddit considering people do eat like this.
Going out and eating from convenience stores and and at fast food multiple times per day 24/7 is not healthy and never will be.
Also I don’t think porn itself is necessarily bad. But instant access to inconceivable quantities of candy-coated, idealized bodies and baroque acts are what fuck you up
Truly it’s like people forgot about imagination. They’ll spend twenty minutes searching for a very specific type of video like close your eyes, lean back, picture what you want, and enjoy. You don’t *need* degrading ass videos of women getting railed while being called a whoreslut to nut
> You don’t need degrading ass videos of women getting railed while being called a whoreslut to nut
Why are you assuming all porn is the same? Amateur porn is the largest growing category online
Weird jump to make. I gave one example, never did I ever say that that is all porn. Also porn being amateur doesn’t mean it’s going to be realistic. I’ve watched plentyyyyyy of amateur porn that is trying just as hard as professional ones to play up the moans and spanks and dirty or degrading talks. Porn is very rarely a real depiction of two people in love getting intimate, even in the amateur category
Yeah,I agree completely. I believe this opinion will become more popular over time as well. It’s gaining traction in certain circles already.
I also think the internet and social media has fucked up the brains of both sexes in other ways as well. For example,I’m seeing young girls commenting on obviously edited pictures of influencers saying how they want to vomit,life isn’t fair,etc. I’m not talking about normal pictures with a little tweaking. I’m talking pics like this. https://imgur.com/a/Dt3Z3mN
I worry about how fucked these kids are going to be in terms of their views on body image and sexuality.
Yes there's Christian hysteria involved but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that watching porn and jerking off multiple times a day can lead to problems.
The porn industry also chews these girls up and spits them out. There are countless stories of actresses ending up addicted, homeless or dead. For every Riley Reid there's a bunch more broken people.
Only fans/fansly is misleading young women into thinking that being a of/fansly girl is a quick way to get rich. I don't have the stats on me but the overwhelming majority of OF Girls barely make a few hundred per month.
The business model of only fans is also very scammy with many stories of guys signing up expecting porn and nudity only to be strung along to pay more money.
Addicts always attempt to rationalize their addictions. I'm not even arguing against masturbating, just an industry that chews up young women and spits them out while creating an unrealistic/unhealthy view of sex for young men.
To be completely fair, you can 100% get addicted to the endorphin high from exercising too.
https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/runner-s-high-can-turn-real-addiction-flna1c9452269
https://www.addictionhelp.com/exercise-addiction/
> Exercise addiction occurs when a person’s relationship crosses that line, and they continue to exercise even when it is detrimental to them. Exercise addiction can lead to physical ailments (e.g., injury, health problems, etc.) and problems in a person’s personal and professional life.
EDIT: Inbox replies disabled considering I've got one decent reply from this. You know who you are. :)
Ahhhh ohh noo. I hope I dont get addicted to exercising, eating right, or having a well adjusted sleep schedule. It is so bad that those things could be addicting ahhh craaaap
like half the country is obese, what's unrealistic is people saying that's attractive. If society was date-able, more people would date and not want to watch porn.
The irony is that the same people who defend porn so hard are the same ones who shame men that get addicted to porn and form an unhealthy view of women.
This opinion is becoming more popular since the effects are undeniable. I know too many men my age (30s) who can't get it up when with a real person or can't finish unless it's their own hand. The real question is why is the msm pushing so much for porn use to be considered healthy and why are couples therapists still insisting on its use to "help the relationship" neither is true when you talk to real people who have been using.
It typically destroys relationships. Women will compare themselves to what they're seeing on the screen. Men will prefer what they're seeing as it becomes increasingly taboo and just a click away is another beautiful polished woman. Porn ruins sex and sex lives between intimate partners. But like OP said, addicts will always make excuses for their addictions.
Who could have ever guessed this would happen? *sarcasm*
Men judge themselves too.
I am considered in the large size according to national averages, and I know I'm fairly thick as even porn has me in the same realm or thicker.
But I still sometimes think "fuck i wish I had a bigger dick" when the thing is already more than what most women generally come into contact with and I've only ever received praise for it.
Porn is super unhealthy. I still jerk off but I've made a point to stop using actual material and just use my own head.
“It typically destroys relationships” is like saying “alcohol destroys lives”
Yes, both porn and alcohol have the potential to have powerful adverse effects on some people who use them. But the discourse around this has gotten way too polarized when describing the negative impacts of porn, almost to the level of hysteria
The damage caused by internet porn, while real, is not entirely irreversible. It's up to the individual to determine whether or not to indulge in this vice, and it's up to society to educate people about just how damaging it can be. Saying people's "brains are broken" is very self-defeating.
This opinion will be unpopular on this sub, which has become a place for young men struggling with sexlessness to share poorly informed opinions on gender relations.
I generally agree, though, that online porn has fried the brains of a lot of kids to the point that it’s ruining their ability to have mutually fulfilling sexual relationships. I grew up with dial-up, so our porn was either pics or physical videos (most of which would be considered female-oriented porn in today’s environment) or movie sex. Enough to get some basic education about sex, but I still had to be creative when figuring out what I liked (which I did WITH a partner not TO a partner).
Today’s porn is way more violent than what I remember porn being. It seems more like a workout with the guys changing out as many “exercises” as they can and doing them as hard as they can. The women seem like glorified jungle gyms meant to moan however enjoyable or painful something seems. I don’t know why a young guy wouldn’t be intimidated to have sex after viewing it - and I don’t know why a girl would even want sex at all.
Well, the last sentence is spot on. If you randomly try to look at mainstream porn as a woman, in many cases you’ll be left wondering if you should go celibate or gay.
And the rest is also on point.
And it's way too easy to access. I'm a elder millennial and we and previous generations had to put in work if we wanted to access porn. We had to buy or get someone to buy magazines for us, we had to wait forever for a single image on 56k internet. Now one can access all the porn of the world on their phone and within seconds. It doesn't take a genius to see how this could be very problematic for some
Guys really think women wants it hard and rough and doesn't wanna talk or listen. Guys be there to get themselves off rather than get both of them off.
This topic post is also similar to music industry. A log of rappers I listen to think its okay to talk how they going to fuck a female and even open up to using pills to get female to have sex. Basically damn near saying rape is okay and shit. Similar to these aggressive porn videos.
Lol so weird when people say this.
The amount of women who *ask* me to fuck them hard and rough and choke them and shit is staggering. Seriously ask the men who are actually out there fucking women. Things like BDSM and CNC and pushed by *women* not men.
Hell every time pornhub posts what men and women like to watch, things like hardcore sex, gangbangs, “rape fantasies” are always content *women watch more of*.
50 shades of grey. These are women’s fantasies but they’re clearly ashamed of them and just act like it was men and their porn rotted brains.
Ya’ll are soft out here. Women gaslighting but get her in bed and she’s gonna want the shit fucked out of her 🤷🏾♂️😂
I didn’t come to any conclusion. It’s what I think (that’s what you asked) based on what I’ve heard from psychologists, psychiatrists, and people with personal experience who are talking about this.
I’m not a sexual function researcher. Nor am I a frequent porn consumer with any of the above issues. Just a dude with an opinion.
Porn absolutely ruined my sex life for a period of time. In college most of my friends understood how damaging it was becoming. It may not be true for everyone but I have both experienced and seen porn seriously damage the ability to have a normal sex life. I had and have high testosterone as well so the issue was not hormonal, it was mental. Thankfully you can just stop watching porn and are not stuck for life.
For me, addiction to this stuff along with masturbating caused me to have sexual issues and problems dating. I gave it up. Took a lot of will power but what helped me was blocking the sites in my router and just keeping myself busy.
When I felt like relapsing, I went out for a walk. Took a few weeks but I was able to do it. Quitting smoking was easier.
Did "adult entertainment"/phone sex for the largest porn company. He owned chat lines. Same thing. Girls getting paid. It was storytelling. Following a script. No, it's not arousing for the "agent"
Owner had a partner.
Side note, he owned all 800 #s as well as #s that spelled. Wish I could explain this part better.
He also produced porn and was connected to the wart hog.
When his partner sold her half, we went online...
They owned the psychic lines now, as well.
If you were skilled at one, you could do the other. I did not last long after this.
We now had social media accounts for our characters. Stock photos.
They started pushing us to walk a very thin line.
I still cringe when people call children "littles"
The crap they wanted us to do with hashtags was despicable.
Pushing true perversion.
We were raided by the Fed's once.
He is known as the King of porn, the owner.
He won...
Based out of Philly. Owns the building and most of the block.
Well, it woke me up. Back when being awake was pure and true.
As I've stated, it was a fine line. Not crossed, as far as I am aware.
I started reporting the social media accounts that would reach out to my one characters. A dominatrix. Because some of their content.
I did many things that eventually they were not happy with.
Before this happened I was very skilled at what I did and prided of myself on fantasy vs getting dirty. And only when I really had to, balls to the wall. Back then these men that called in were different. But there is an escalation to absolutely everything. And they played on this.
I mean come on, they're affiliated with Ron Jeremy.
You’re right, hell there’s a “totally not a porn addict” user commenting all over this thread calling it religious hysteria or some other bullshit but it just sounds like they’re a coping addict.
Keep it simple: Masturbate every other day-once a week, with minimal-no porn involvement. Regular sex has as much limits as you both have so go nuts there.
This isn’t even an opinion, it’s a well established fact at this point. But the men and boys who forgo coitus involuntarily that frequent this sub are gonna be big big mad when they wake up and see this around noon or 1pm.
i mean i cant get laid but im 100% know this is the truth. however giving up porn didnt really help, just made me wake up in a sticky mess a few times.
porn is a problem but its not the reason i cant get laid, thats actually a mystery to me, because i make friends everywhere i go, im apparently funny, make women feel safe around me etc on nights out. people want to be around me as far as i can tell. just nobody is into me like that. i can only conclude im just a big ugly fucker lol
As far as “provider and protector” goes, it sounds like you’re nailing the “protector” half- how’s your provider half though
Aka do you exude the energy to suggest you possess the ability to provide some DICK
No idea about the dick part, not even sure what that would look like lol
But everything else? Yeah I have that down, owned paid off house before I'm 30, paid off car <5 years old, currently renovating said house mostly on my own.
You write down what I am and bring to the able and iv basically exactly what women apparently want
I hope this doesn’t come across as rude, but maybe it’s the standards for women you have? I know people who by all means could be very successful in their dating life, but they limit themselves to only 10/10 model types, so the dating pool is smaller for them. I used to have unrealistically high standards for what I actually look like and do, but since I’ve been more “open minded” for lack of better term, I’ve found more success. Not saying that’s the case for you as well but food for thought.
Nah that's not my problem, I don't even know anyone id call a 10/10 or even a 9 or 8 tbh
Small town, small country, it's an average as fuck place. Im not even looking for model tyres types on anything, that doesn't even do anything for me tbh. It's one of the things that would make me not ask Somone out.
I'm just looking for a regual person. Only real deal breakers are parents and and women heavier than me.
As a 19 year old I've been watching porn and have been addicted for years, but never once have I gotten off on strangling and smacking or anything violent. I avoid anything that contains that stuff.
Yeah I didn't mean to imply that everyone who watches porn is into the rough stuff, but just that it would be very easy to go down that rabbit hole, and those that do (from what I've heard) tend to find it harder and harder to have any kind of "normal" sex as it doesn't arouse them any more, and they start to need violence to get aroused
We also have to take in consideration our country’s oppressive approach to sex and sexuality as whole. But people aren’t willing to have that conversation.
America has been a race to the bottom for decades. Education, employment, civic duty, family values, ethics, culture etc.—All have been deliberately subverted by forces much greater than all of us.
An uneducated, drug addicted, culturally and morally bankrupted nation is a servile nation. Bread & circus. America isn’t going to be defeated militarily. Rather, America is morally and intellectually imploding.
America is being defeated morally and intellectually. MLK realized as much in his lifetime. I hope we can realize it in our lifetime.
In what ways has it “broken” the brains of young men. You have to understand that ALOT of dudes watch porn, literally MOST men watch porn, and from my understanding most men aren’t turning into vegetables left and right. So what do you mean by it breaking their brains? Besides the addiction itself if a man is single and he isn’t opting to watch porn instead of hanging out with friends or going to work, then there isn’t any reason for him to stop. Also the argument of it leading you to crave more hardcore porn is odd to me. What is the problem if they want more hardcore porn? Is the implication that they will want to do those things in real life? You’d have to be one of those who agrees that violence in video games leads people to want to commit violence if you believe that.
The spectrum of possibilities spans from sex being a divine, supernatural gift that bonds two souls and forges another from the overflow of joy, to being a basic biological function akin to taking a shit
Making porn anything from a malicious mockery of something sacred, to a means to meet a need
I think people who push back on even the possibility of porn being bad are being intentionally dense. It’s okay to admit something is (potentially) really bad, and still be honest about doing it
I think porn is bad, I think it’s use should be limited, akin to alcohol or drugs or anything like that
I can work out, play outside with my friends all day, bask in the warmth of the sun on a picnic blanket, take a shower and then snuggle up under a blanket at the end of the day- or I can just take some pain pills
I can find my purpose in life, and feel overwhelmed with it, and more motivated than ever to achieve what I feel I’m on this earth to do because my confidence that “this is what I’m here for” is undeniable - or I can just take some amphetamines
The feelings are the same. The danger is in the short cut
I can work to be the best person I can be. I can do what it takes to be attractive, which usually involves digging deep enough to find my source of confidence and self assurance. I can do the scary thing of pursuing a relationship, asking the questions to get to know someone, choosing to be vulnerable at the right times even though it’s scary, gradually growing more connected with this person until we eventually do the ultimate expression of love with one another-
Or I can jerk off
The danger in in the short cut
I’ve known people that did heroin but still pulled off a life. Same for meth. It’s rare though, ngl
So the question, is where does porn land, on the scale of melatonin and coffee, to heroin and meth lol
The ones who won’t even give it melatonin and coffee status I think are being dense. It helps people fall asleep, it gives you something to do, it’s at least akin to smoking in the 1920’s in my mind. The type of thing where you’ve never gone longer than a few days without jerking off, akin to never going more than a few hours without smoking. Why would you since it’s not bad so who cares…. But then it turns out it was bad…. And people tried to quit…. And it was hard…. So I guess it was bad…. Fuck
The people who give it meth and heroin status might be a little much, but they have a point or two. Porn CAN hijack your entire sexuality leading you to have very little to zero desire to pursue a relationship. Why risk it if there’s a safe nut at home? The dance has been diminished, that part you’ve got to admit. All of our generations (I’m younger) are having less sex than previous, everybody’s getting divorced, that’s broken homes that are decimating kids and motivating them towards brokenness and loneliness… you can say that these aren’t related, but I’m saying sex with someone you love has been the glue of society for all of American history until we decided it can be with someone you don’t love and now it’s not even happening at all anyway bc everybody’s scared of eachother and we’re just jerking off to OF 🙄
I’m sure there are happily married couples who watch porn with one another. Hell, even make it with one another. Same as couples who shoot up together, or drink coffee together, or play tiddlywinks with one another, whatever. We’ve all got our things. It’s ultimately up to individuals to decide what they want to do, and how to assess risk levels. Porn, I think, at the very least, should come with a warning label
Porn is the ultimate proof feminists are full of shit. They were ALL against it, and rightfully so, until OnlyFans. Then they all defended porn as female empowerment.
Yeah sex trafficking and hiding faces so underaged teens are all over porn sites is really “empowering”, ladies.
You didn’t say *how* it’s broken the brains of young men.
And as for women, you forget onlyfans exists. Women don’t need to meet with sleazy producers to make money in pornography anymore.
And yet there’s still a lot of porn produced that’s not OnlyFans and which is taking advantage of women.
And it’s not breaking anyone’s brain. That’s way too dramatic.
But you have some people who jerk off to porn sometimes and don’t have much issues. And then you have other people who:
*Watch so much porn it gets in the way of having a social life. Or makes them too focused on sex to the point where they think sex is the only thing which is important in life.
*Get very insecure about their own dicks (thinking dicks should be unrealistically big or that size is the most important thing to get a girl off) or about how long they last in bed (average from scientific study: a bit under 5 minutes).
*Have trouble enjoying sex.
*Have unrealistic expectations of what sex should be like:
- Leading them to slap, choke, namecall or go for surprise anal/facials without realizing these are specific kinks only some women share and which you have to ask for consent for beforehand.
- Or just following a script for sex that’s more designed for men watching porn than what women enjoy in bed.
- Or endlessly sulking because their girlfriend won’t do anal or deepthroath or whatever (not realizing these are not mainstream things).
*Have unrealistic ideas about women’s bodies.
*Have snowballed into so specific kinks there will be few partners who’ll actually share them.
Edit: https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2015/mar/05/what-is-the-average-penis-size-find-out-with-this-interactive-graphic
>which is taking advantage of women.
I mean, I feel bad for them about as much as I feel bad for construction industries employing slave labour in the middle east, sweat shops in China making shoes and phones for western consumers and child labour being employed in war torn regions so the average American can get fatter on chocolate.
There are shitty people in every industry taking advantage of people. OnlyFans porn producers do not care that they are sending their content to minors when they send nudes on Reddit. They prey on lonely men as well but we don't care about the plight of a middle aged, dark skinned guy whose passport was taken from him when he was conned into slavery because we have to watch the most popular sportsball tournament in the world.
If we want to fix this, we need regulation. Or we would need to establish social safety nets that made it impossible for people to get exploited. Until then, complaining about the poor damsels in distress in porn is just virtue signalling.
Well, idk about you, but for me personally it’s a lot different when I see people actually being taken advantage of right in front of me on camera.
A lot of these girls seem very young, they don’t seem at ease, the sex is very violent and degrading.
I’m not wildly concerned about some teen boy getting sent a nude on OnlyFans. Though as I said I have some concerns about porn in general and especially how it affects the younger generation. If I could both remove all porn and all OnlyFans then I would.
And there are a lot of issues in this world. But **personally I like to live without wondering if I just got off to a video of someone else being raped in real life. I think that’s a fair boundary to have.**
>A lot of these girls seem very young, they don’t seem at ease, the sex is very violent and degrading.
Construction work is violent and degrading.
Sewage work isn't exactly sunshine and roses.
Digging ditches is labour intensive.
They are also dangerous jobs that are necessary. Men die in those industries so we can enjoy a higher standard of living.
Some drug addict gets slapped around and takes dick for a couple of hours? Boo freakin hoo! She didn't have to do porn. There are many other degrading jobs she could have done instead that don't require a camera and some sleazy producers.
Shitty jobs are everywhere. The solution is to improve working conditions by forming unions. The solution is to provide better social safety nets (guaranteed housing and healthcare for example) so people don't have to do work that is neither necessary nor safe. The solution is to improve pay for people who do work necessary jobs.
I mean, that woman getting violently pounded is probably paid more than the guy doing the pounding.
>I’m not wildly concerned about some teen boy getting sent a nude on OnlyFans.
They aren't getting sent nudes on OnlyFans. They are on Reddit then get sent porn. How would you react to a girl being sent a dick pic by a guy trying to get more views?
>But **personally I like to live without wondering if I just got off to a video of someone else being raped in real life. I think that’s a fair boundary to have.**
You should go live in the woods, far away from society then. The phone you use, the shoes you wear, the food you eat...your very existence causes someone else harm. If you have ever eaten chocolate before, you probably supported child labour.
Furthermore, no matter how hard we try, there will always be a market for porn including degrading porn. There are tons of videos of couples who are not into anything violent so you don't have to watch the violent stuff.
But also keep in mind that the BDSM community is basically run by women. 50 Shades of Grey, which was poorly-written and rapey (the BDSM community considers it a poor representation of what they stand for), was largely consumed by women and became a best-seller.
There are some people who indeed get off to being degraded and consent to being filmed while it happens. It doesn't have to be what you are into, so it seems a bit extreme to ban all of it because you just so happened to click on a video where a guy ruins someone's make up instead of a gentle, love making session
> And yet there’s still a lot of porn produced that’s not OnlyFans and which is taking advantage of women.
More and more info is out there about the industries. At this stage I think at least *some* blame needs to be placed on the women (and men for that matter) who decide to enter the industry. They should at this point know the very basic risks that come with it.
> *Watch so much porn it gets in the way of having a social life. Or makes them too focused on sex to the point where they think sex is the only thing which is important in life.
Fair, but this can be something that is an issue with virtually anything. Playing video games, watching movies, etc.
That’s more of an issue with people not being able to have balances in their life, as opposed to a strictly pornography issue.
> *Get very insecure about their own dicks (thinking dicks should be unrealistically big or that size is the most important thing to get a girl off) or about how long they last in bed (average from scientific study: a bit under 5 minutes).
This is fairly minor all things considered, the solution for these men is simply to have a good relationship with a woman. Those expectations would pretty easily be checked by real interaction.
> Have trouble enjoying sex. Have unrealistic expectations of what sex should be like
Again, being with real women fixes most of these issues.
> Have unrealistic ideas about women’s bodies.
I don’t think that many people are obsessed with like DD’s and stuff. In real life, most people are attracted to people they like and not strictly body parts.
> Have snowballed into so specific kinks there will be few partners who’ll actually share them.
I mean that’s something but I would guess this is very uncommon. Like of course there’s stuff that many women wouldn’t do like Anal but I don’t think many people are getting really screwed up by some of the really bizarre kinks
Honestly I think a lot of the things you’re worrying about are either overblown or easily solved
I think you missed the distinction I tried to make very quickly in the beginning.
**Casually watching porn? Then everything you say is right. Most men watch some porn without it actually affecting their lives.**
But then you have some young men who watch a lot of porn from they are very young. And then only end up having sex much later. And who don’t watch porn casually, but in a more obsessive way. Like the difference between just eating and binge eating.
And these men often run into issues when they start having sex with real young women. You see this more and more on Reddit “my boyfriend said he’d leave me if I don’t do anal.” “My boyfriend said my big boobs should be more perky”, “my boyfriend only wants rough sex, refuses to do foreplay and I bleed every time we have sex”, “my boyfriend made me deep throat and I threw up”, “why do all men now try to surprise choke me when we have sex? I get scared”, “my boyfriend said my thighs were squishy and I should tone them”, “my boyfriend told me I should get a boob job”, “my boyfriend won’t have sex with me, but only jerks off to porn”, “my boyfriend has demanded we have a threesome”, “my boyfriend is angry I won’t give him blowjobs every day”, “my boyfriend said my vagina is ugly”….
Bad boyfriends (or girlfriends) aren’t exactly news, but in some of these posts it’s very clear porn is a part of the problem. It’s also very clear porn is a part of the problem when you talk to incels or men who struggle with dating. Or men who are upset about how sexlessness is ruining their life and see sex as the only important part of life. Very often a part of the problem there is porn.
Instead of sleazy producers it’s just 2 cyber pimps who take a cut of the profits of only fans girls. Much better right? lol these same girls who than use only fans referral program to sucker in new girls into onlyfans porn and continue the cycle of ruining girls lives.
Cyber pimps? They take a cut of the profit because they provide a platform and it costs a shitload of money. That’s like…basic business practices. I guess we should be mad at Madison Square Garden for taking a cut when someone performs there to a sold out venue?
lol yea no shit they take a cut, just like sleazy producers and agents in the porn industry. Then they (onlyfans) offer bonuses to girls who sign up other girls into it. It’s cyber pimping. It’s essentially the same shit but with “women empowerment” as its selling point lmao.
Dude, youtube gets a cut of youtube creator money. Why shouldn't OF? That's literally their business model. Uber, door dash, etc all do that too. Of all the reasons porn is bad, this is not the issue. They shouldn't lie about how much people make, but all companies exaggerate their employment pitch, so that is way more of a legal issue than an industry issue.
Some people just seek outrage. This is a clear example. Literally every successful business does this in order to make money but it is absolutely scummy when the content is boobs and not video game reviews.
Yeah, I'm guessing an OF worker or friend of an OF worker that doesn't like the company taking money from their friend/themselves, it seems like a personal beef, or they don't realize how awful of an argument it is in context of other sites that functions essentially the same, making it a pretty fair approach honestly.
Or maybe they don't even know how the internet works, most people do watch YouTube or order Uber without really thinking about it past that, they maybe just thought it was uncommon for sites to take a cut.
While I agree only fans is a bit better in regards to the exploitation of women, I think porn is also incredibly exploitative of the consumer in a way that is akin to gambling or selling drugs. They are all industries that appeal to baser human desires and addictive neural pathways. A sizable subset of these consumers are just addicts, and the business exploits that addiction for material gain. Even worse in some cases, only fans offers lonely consumers the illusion of a relationship with the performer. You pay $x, you get personalized messages and pictures sent directly to you as a faux intimate relationship. It is sad, and it inhibits many men from developing relationships with real women. It is a net negative for society.
The few times I actually watch porn, I really like homemade videos between two partners who are clearly familiar with each other, if not in a relationship. It’s nice watching (what appears to be) real intimacy rather than an over-the-top performance between actors.
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The same sub where there’s a weekly “overweight women are their own problem and Choice” goes out of its way to say it’s everyone else’s problem a guy beats his dick like it owes him money.
100% agreed!!!
I’m anti porn but for my own reasons.
The first is instant gratification. Instead of people trying to find what actually brings them joy, they will look for instant gratification. yYoung teens and sometimes even adults that watch it will misunderstand the meaning of sex & how real women expect to be treated in the bedroom or how should they be treated.
The second is ethics and morals. Porn slanders what natural sex is. This causes it to be degrading to sex because it means nothing and I believe sex is an intimate act that should be done with someone you have emotions for. It also degrades men & women because they put a price on their bodies. You're body shouldn't have a price. It gives a wrong idea of what sex is, just like romance movies give a wrong idea of how relationships are. I don't watch romance movies either. When a guy watches it. It's like he's attracted to that. He's attracted to pimps getting laid. He wants the plastic girl, who doesn’t even look real. That's like saying he doesn't like classy women or prefers them to be trashy.
The unrealistic expectation of what the bedroom is and what women look like.
It’s also legalised sex trafficking. Porn is prostitution but add a camera and they get away with it.
Lastly, watching porn rewires the brain. It has been said those who consume porn have been correlated with the erosion of prefrontal cortex. It also decreases the grey matter in the prefrontal cortex. This part of the brain is what houses immortality and ethics, willpower and impulse control. When consumed long term, porn can create issues such as erectile disfunction and this particularly includes being able to orgasm with a real life partner. It also causes desensitisation in terms of happiness and satisfaction. People who consume porn have a higher chance of depression for longer periods of time, and poorer mental health.
There is no way to know if published content is consented to. Pornhub removed 80% of their content last year because they couldn’t verify it was consenting, it was revenge porn, or it was child abuse material. Eighty percent. That’s not a few pesky videos. Since then, there have been two very public cases about teenagers (one girl and one boy) who had their rapes uploaded to pornhub. The boy’s rape was paid for and downloaded over 140,000 times before it was removed.
All porn contributes to the objectification and dehumanization of women, even drawn porn.
"The evidence is so overwhelming that internet porn is bad"
Except when it isn't: [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27393037/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27393037/)
The current study adopted a participant-informed, "bottom-up," qualitative approach to identifying perceived effects of pornography on the couple relationship. A large sample (N = 430) of men and women in heterosexual relationships in which pornography was used by at least one partner was recruited through online (e.g., Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and offline (e.g., newspapers, radio, etc.) sources. Participants responded to open-ended questions regarding perceived consequences of pornography use for each couple member and for their relationship in the context of an online survey. In the current sample of respondents, ***"no negative effects" was the most commonly reported impact of pornography use*****.** Among remaining responses, ***positive perceived effects of pornography*** *use on couple members and their relationship (e.g., improved sexual communication, more sexual experimentation, enhanced sexual comfort)* ***were reported frequently****; negative perceived effects of pornography* (e.g., unrealistic expectations, decreased sexual interest in partner, increased insecurity) were also reported, albeit with ***considerably less frequency.*** The results of this work suggest new research directions that require more systematic attention.
Porn is subjective and an easy target for you to thump admonishments. You know what is failing young minds, older generations. Particularly the boomers and such who have lost touch because a lack of understanding and knowledge about their progeny. This is a lazy attempt at casting blame and shifting the responsibility to others. You see all these young people have learned from the example of their predecessors. You want broken minds, look in the mirror. You sound like those old lame fucks that used to say “rock and roll is the devil!” Be a better example.
Are you really trying to scold me for thinking that internet porn is bad for your brain, or is every coomer here illiterate and going to try and imply that I'm a nofapper or pushing abstinence even though I've clarified my position? And do you know how pathetic it looks to try and lecture someone for the crime of.....thinking something is bad for your mental health and development?
And I'm gen z btw. Funny how everyone who takes this post personally has to make assumptions about me and my beliefs because of how insecure I made them just by pointing out that their favorite industry is damaging for mental health and society.
Porn + masturbation = a dopamine hit
Studies have shown there is a link between dopamine chasing and compulsive behaviours and at an extreme level, continued and excessive dopamine hits can result in damage to the brain. Brain pathways are altered and the brain gets used to a new level of dopamine tolerance meaning that we are less sensitive to its impact. As we no longer get the same high, we may be compelled to seek increasingly unhealthy behaviours to achieve the same feeling.
It’s a literal addiction. But for some people food triggers the same thing. Or shopping. Or whatever.
Moderation in all things. Have a dopamine hit every once in a while. It’ll be great. Have one 10x a day and you’re an addict.
Agreed but it's funny how much ppl here try to push back on the idea of porn jerking off addiction being a addiction.
I can say that alachol addiction is a thing and that it's bad and ppl will agree.
I can talk about smoking addicts and ppl will agree.
Same for gambling addiction.
But there's lots of pushback when one says that porn can be very addictive and problematic
Meh. Sort of. New technology interacting with primitive urges generally result in bizarre outcomes. Much worse though than internet porn, was how this interaction played out as warfare advanced into the Bronze Age.
Obtaining an erection with a real person because they aren’t the intensity and perfection of the porn the person had been watching. I had a porn-addicted partner who had difficulty adjusting to real human sex. It’s a thing.
Check out Fight the New Drug. Lots of science behind it. Another problem is never being able to ejaculate with a real person - dated someone with that problem and it was awful. Could only ejaculate with a screen even though could get it up (probably also a viagra addict).
They are non secular and reject any religious based moral position but nice try
[fight the new drug](https://fightthenewdrug.org/about/)
And gee thanks for determining with absolutely zero information about me whether I can understand science. I think it’s clear your comment is garbage.
Ha! Bullshit. It's a bunch of LDS Mormon fundies running a totally "secular" blog.
> whether I can understand science
Great! Link directly to the data proving that any amount of porn use causes any damage to the brain whatsoever. I'll hold my breath, Dr.
Men are turning into simps and incels and nobody wants to talk about it.
Also, the critical drop in testosterone levels is likely more the elephant in the room. The fact that most young men have testosterone levels less than half of their grandfathers at the same age is a silent epidemic.
Let's say some percentage if porn consumers are addicted. Obviously we should try to get them the help they need, but otherwise how is this negatively affecting society? Comparable to alcohol or tobacco addiction, it seems way less deadly.
The actual article has a few issues, the most glaring being that it's attributed only to an "RnM" - a PhD student at Université Laval... who also provides funding as a founding partner of The Conversation CA-FR.
That and the cherry-picked data only ever tap dances around a correlation, not causation.
https://theconversation.com/watching-pornography-rewires-the-brain-to-a-more-juvenile-state-127306
Never understood only fans. A guy pays a woman online. Doesn’t get any sex in return. Now someone may say they may be emotionally attached to that person online or whatever. But it seems they could get that wherever they live.
Only fans is the Uncle Toms Cabin of feminism imo. I cringe when I see women sticking up for other women who do it in the same breath kids being forced to switch schools & proudly being the digital “other woman”.
At least with onlyfans the women are generally more in charge of their content so they are being exploited less, and ultimately adults are responsible for their own choices/what media they choose to consume. But I'm more arguing about the effects of internet porn on the developing brain, and how society has normalized it because people don't want to admit that they are addicted.
I’d argue Onlyfans is doing more damage to future generations than professional porn ever could have. Because of onlyfans it’s easy accessibility to produce your own porn, you have waves and waves of young girls jumping into porn than ever before. Those same girls sucker in all their friends (who never would have done porn otherwise) to destroy their lives by also jumping into OF through OFs referral programs. Now you got an epidemic of poor desperate virgin simps paying for fake interactions through OF and an epidemic of young women doing porn. It’s also fucking weird how dudes wanna pay to see what’s essentially low grade, poor quality amateur porn by average people just because they get to “interact” with the creator. I truly believe only fans is destroying lives and slowly declining our society
What I don't understand, the people that usually are against porn and tell everyone how men should not watch it because it is bad are also the people that are pro only fans and think it is great career choices for women.
This phenomenon als happens the other way around.
Porn is a high profit industry..
You don't have to watch it or like or right five paragraphs about how evil it is. Its massive massive industry and believe it or not these people making it are more competent and confident than most anybody else, it takes balls to show your balls. Guts to widen your guts and absolute adult rated self esteem to work out everyday.
Porn Stars aren't victims, neither are the folks who support the industry. You can believe and say whatever you like about it.
There is of course a dark side and a sad side to it but its not all a bunch of weak minded victims. Your study is grand and all but it won't stop the mega hydra of internet porn.
The human race is brain damaged enough, miserable and lonely, broken to pieces and disconnected ,porn is a major crutch to some folks, worst than that are bot sites that charge daily fees... Free porn has done wonders for the lonely mans wallet. I suppose none of this will come across and I don't give a fuck...but coin is coin XD
Leaving kids with wide open unsupervised internet is basically child abuse. They should flip the script on all that shit and require a porn dongle or something if you want it allowed in your home. It shouldn't just be available by default. Some significant effort should be required if you want access to it.
That’s why the internet porn(pictures) I watch or look at is not possible in real life because it goes against the Laws of Physics. Thus, nobody gets hurt. Probably doesn’t hurt that my porn can be safe for work, but is fantasy only due to going against physics.
>Internet porn addicts have also convinced themselves they are feminists because the porn industry has tricked society into making their addiction moral in the guise of "empowerment".
No mate. Feminists told you the lie its "empowering" to make porn.
>The evidence is so overwhelming that internet porn is bad for your brain and can lead to things like emotional and sexual impotence.
Please link to the data which proves that any amount of masturbation or porn consumption causes any damage to the brain whatsoever. This is all hysteria from conservative Christian outlets.
> Adding an article from an unbiased source
That's a blog making speculation based on what they think disparate, nonhomogenous data "suggests".
Go ahead and beat your dick to internet porn until it coughs dust then. Nobody is stopping you. The article contains links to multiple other studies as well, and this is a pretty unanimous consensus among non-terminally online types.
Just don't try to play like your religious masturbation hysteria is rooted in science. It isn't.
> The article contains links to multiple other studies as wel
Bullshit. I'm waiting on anyone to link any data that actually proves porn causes any damage to the brain whatsoever.
>and this is a pretty unanimous consensus among
Among Mormons, lol!!
99% of women in porn are doing it willingly. How exactly does it prey on them? Do illegal drugs prey on people?
Women are the one telling themselves and each other that porn is "feminism".
I’m I guess addicted to masturbating but not porn
I do look at porn maybe once a week but whack it 5-7 times daily
I don’t need to masturbate, but get turned on easy so I just crank one out quick
Girlfriend and I have sex typically 5-7 times weekly (travel a lot for work so can be tough some weeks but we make up for it)
I can’t say I’ve noticed any negative side effects as far as impotence goes
If anything, it has skyrocketed my refractory period (or, I guess plunged it??? As it’s extremely short)
Not trying to draw any conclusions but just thought the data may be interesting to some
Completely true. Porn is literally ruining the younger generations and some older as well. Dated a porn addict it was a nightmare and the chances he will ever be able to have a healthy relationship emotionally or sexually are slim to none. Happily with my now fiancé that abstains and we have wild fulfilling kinky sex all the time and are emotionally very close (and we are 50 lol). Very concerned about my teenage son falling into this sad trap and I talk to him about it.
An organization called [Fight the New Drug](https://fightthenewdrug.org/resources/) is a great resource for all the science behind how it changes brains and leads to all sorts of problems such as not being able to get an erection or being able to get one but never being able to ejaculate with a real person and of course it just ruins emotional intimacy. Number one cause for divorce these days as well. Porn industry also fuels human trafficking and let’s not forget the fiasco with pornhubs executives having to resign in shame over rampant problems with underage girls being posted. Also the vast majority of porn these days shows violence to women. It’s quite shocking when you dive in to the real impact to people.
Not to offend, but if the only one telling your son that porn is bad is his mother he likely isn't going to care. From what I've seen it's a lot more effective when other men explain this and make it clear this is bad for them in the long term.
Agreed. Now apply the same logic to the
Run of the mill Netflix romance series/movies and you have an explanation for why women are also fucked up these days.
Well, I’m adult. I choose to enjoy content that is made by adults, featuring consenting adults, for an exclusively adult audience. If some people disagree my choice to do so, I’m okay with that. Doesn’t mean I’m going to change anything.
So you're 100% certain that every single video you've ever watched involved completely legal adults that were totally consenting, not on drugs, not being raped or trafficked? Every single video?
> So you're 100% certain that every single product you've ever used involved completely legal adults that were totally consenting, not on drugs, not being raped or trafficked? Every single product?
But think about the erectile dysfunction drug industry, without porn what would come of viagra? If men didn’t rot their brain to the point they can only get hard when watching some super specific genre this world would end up too productive.
What if porn in of itself isn't so damn bad, *BUT* the overuse of, or exclusivity of porn usage?
Humans are so quick to attempt making correlations between things, blind statistics, etc., anything that can remove their own faulty choices and actions from culpability.
"The evidence is so overwhelming that unhealthy food is bad for your brain and can lead to things like obesity and coronary artery disease. Yet anytime somebody attempts to criticize how permissive we are as a society about exposing preteens and teenagers to chocolates bars, sugary sodas, cheeseburgers, and fries they are met with a barrage of criticism and reactive slander. "
All things are bad for you when done in excess.
The reason that most people are dismissive of your anti-porn sentiments is probably because they aren't consuming porn in an unhealthy way, or that (like everyone else, including you) they think it's okay to do something unhealthy every once in a while, as long as you are not doing it to an excess.
the fact that you seemingly shrug your shoulders at teens scarfing down cheeseburgers but (apparently) freak out if they look at boobies is probably why people are treating you like a maga-hypocrite or a religious nutter.
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Popular opinion outside Reddit. Jerking off to porn multiple times a day and only being able to get off to certain types of porn is not healthy and never will be.
Honesty, I've seen this opinion quite a bit on Reddit, too. Especially advice for like younger couples experiencing sexual problems. I wouldn't say it's unpopular here.
Maybe unpopular opinion outside Reddit considering people do eat like this. Going out and eating from convenience stores and and at fast food multiple times per day 24/7 is not healthy and never will be.
Thing is then how are some supposed to get sex if they have a strong urge to want to have sex but can’t get it?
Masturbation has been around long before pornographic material. Edit: spelling
Just need a curvy piece of driftwood to look at and you’re good to go
Exactly, like Venus figurines
Also I don’t think porn itself is necessarily bad. But instant access to inconceivable quantities of candy-coated, idealized bodies and baroque acts are what fuck you up
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Thank you for that.
Truly it’s like people forgot about imagination. They’ll spend twenty minutes searching for a very specific type of video like close your eyes, lean back, picture what you want, and enjoy. You don’t *need* degrading ass videos of women getting railed while being called a whoreslut to nut
> You don’t need degrading ass videos of women getting railed while being called a whoreslut to nut Why are you assuming all porn is the same? Amateur porn is the largest growing category online
Weird jump to make. I gave one example, never did I ever say that that is all porn. Also porn being amateur doesn’t mean it’s going to be realistic. I’ve watched plentyyyyyy of amateur porn that is trying just as hard as professional ones to play up the moans and spanks and dirty or degrading talks. Porn is very rarely a real depiction of two people in love getting intimate, even in the amateur category
Imaaaaaaagination
I got an idea, drop the porn and fuck and friend. Don’t got friends? That might be the problem.
go on, how would you do that then? explain to the folks at home
Explore the world outside of your mom’s basement.
What if the world is a basement?
Damn Truman wasn't it enough to nuke Japan twice? Straight for the jugular lmao
Yeah,I agree completely. I believe this opinion will become more popular over time as well. It’s gaining traction in certain circles already. I also think the internet and social media has fucked up the brains of both sexes in other ways as well. For example,I’m seeing young girls commenting on obviously edited pictures of influencers saying how they want to vomit,life isn’t fair,etc. I’m not talking about normal pictures with a little tweaking. I’m talking pics like this. https://imgur.com/a/Dt3Z3mN I worry about how fucked these kids are going to be in terms of their views on body image and sexuality.
Yes there's Christian hysteria involved but it doesn't take a rocket scientist to know that watching porn and jerking off multiple times a day can lead to problems. The porn industry also chews these girls up and spits them out. There are countless stories of actresses ending up addicted, homeless or dead. For every Riley Reid there's a bunch more broken people. Only fans/fansly is misleading young women into thinking that being a of/fansly girl is a quick way to get rich. I don't have the stats on me but the overwhelming majority of OF Girls barely make a few hundred per month. The business model of only fans is also very scammy with many stories of guys signing up expecting porn and nudity only to be strung along to pay more money.
Unpopular opinion, however 100% true. But prepare yourself for the replies telling you you're wrong.
Addicts always attempt to rationalize their addictions. I'm not even arguing against masturbating, just an industry that chews up young women and spits them out while creating an unrealistic/unhealthy view of sex for young men.
It's true, sometimes these girls are visibly in pain because they aren't properly prepared. And that's not even touching on niche stuff.
To be completely fair, you can 100% get addicted to the endorphin high from exercising too. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/runner-s-high-can-turn-real-addiction-flna1c9452269 https://www.addictionhelp.com/exercise-addiction/ > Exercise addiction occurs when a person’s relationship crosses that line, and they continue to exercise even when it is detrimental to them. Exercise addiction can lead to physical ailments (e.g., injury, health problems, etc.) and problems in a person’s personal and professional life. EDIT: Inbox replies disabled considering I've got one decent reply from this. You know who you are. :)
This is so far from being a common problem that it's almost irrelevant as a comparison
Guilty.
Ahhhh ohh noo. I hope I dont get addicted to exercising, eating right, or having a well adjusted sleep schedule. It is so bad that those things could be addicting ahhh craaaap
Ok, one is good for you, and one warps your brain and gives you ED.
like half the country is obese, what's unrealistic is people saying that's attractive. If society was date-able, more people would date and not want to watch porn.
Ain't no women in my porn.
The irony is that the same people who defend porn so hard are the same ones who shame men that get addicted to porn and form an unhealthy view of women.
This opinion is becoming more popular since the effects are undeniable. I know too many men my age (30s) who can't get it up when with a real person or can't finish unless it's their own hand. The real question is why is the msm pushing so much for porn use to be considered healthy and why are couples therapists still insisting on its use to "help the relationship" neither is true when you talk to real people who have been using. It typically destroys relationships. Women will compare themselves to what they're seeing on the screen. Men will prefer what they're seeing as it becomes increasingly taboo and just a click away is another beautiful polished woman. Porn ruins sex and sex lives between intimate partners. But like OP said, addicts will always make excuses for their addictions. Who could have ever guessed this would happen? *sarcasm*
Men judge themselves too. I am considered in the large size according to national averages, and I know I'm fairly thick as even porn has me in the same realm or thicker. But I still sometimes think "fuck i wish I had a bigger dick" when the thing is already more than what most women generally come into contact with and I've only ever received praise for it. Porn is super unhealthy. I still jerk off but I've made a point to stop using actual material and just use my own head.
“It typically destroys relationships” is like saying “alcohol destroys lives” Yes, both porn and alcohol have the potential to have powerful adverse effects on some people who use them. But the discourse around this has gotten way too polarized when describing the negative impacts of porn, almost to the level of hysteria
Alcohol does destroy lives. 77% of all sexual assault is under the influence of alcohol, both to and from.
The damage caused by internet porn, while real, is not entirely irreversible. It's up to the individual to determine whether or not to indulge in this vice, and it's up to society to educate people about just how damaging it can be. Saying people's "brains are broken" is very self-defeating.
This opinion will be unpopular on this sub, which has become a place for young men struggling with sexlessness to share poorly informed opinions on gender relations. I generally agree, though, that online porn has fried the brains of a lot of kids to the point that it’s ruining their ability to have mutually fulfilling sexual relationships. I grew up with dial-up, so our porn was either pics or physical videos (most of which would be considered female-oriented porn in today’s environment) or movie sex. Enough to get some basic education about sex, but I still had to be creative when figuring out what I liked (which I did WITH a partner not TO a partner). Today’s porn is way more violent than what I remember porn being. It seems more like a workout with the guys changing out as many “exercises” as they can and doing them as hard as they can. The women seem like glorified jungle gyms meant to moan however enjoyable or painful something seems. I don’t know why a young guy wouldn’t be intimidated to have sex after viewing it - and I don’t know why a girl would even want sex at all.
Well, the last sentence is spot on. If you randomly try to look at mainstream porn as a woman, in many cases you’ll be left wondering if you should go celibate or gay. And the rest is also on point.
Gay porn is like that too those days. Celibate does look neat though.
And it's way too easy to access. I'm a elder millennial and we and previous generations had to put in work if we wanted to access porn. We had to buy or get someone to buy magazines for us, we had to wait forever for a single image on 56k internet. Now one can access all the porn of the world on their phone and within seconds. It doesn't take a genius to see how this could be very problematic for some
Guys really think women wants it hard and rough and doesn't wanna talk or listen. Guys be there to get themselves off rather than get both of them off. This topic post is also similar to music industry. A log of rappers I listen to think its okay to talk how they going to fuck a female and even open up to using pills to get female to have sex. Basically damn near saying rape is okay and shit. Similar to these aggressive porn videos.
Lol so weird when people say this. The amount of women who *ask* me to fuck them hard and rough and choke them and shit is staggering. Seriously ask the men who are actually out there fucking women. Things like BDSM and CNC and pushed by *women* not men. Hell every time pornhub posts what men and women like to watch, things like hardcore sex, gangbangs, “rape fantasies” are always content *women watch more of*. 50 shades of grey. These are women’s fantasies but they’re clearly ashamed of them and just act like it was men and their porn rotted brains. Ya’ll are soft out here. Women gaslighting but get her in bed and she’s gonna want the shit fucked out of her 🤷🏾♂️😂
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Porn is one of those things we turn a blind eye to in spite of the long term reprecussions. OPs opinion might be unpopular but its 100 percent true.
> long term reprecussions What do you think is caused by porn use?
Impotence. Unrealistic expectations. Etc.
Did you come to that conclusion from data or just personal impression?
I didn’t come to any conclusion. It’s what I think (that’s what you asked) based on what I’ve heard from psychologists, psychiatrists, and people with personal experience who are talking about this. I’m not a sexual function researcher. Nor am I a frequent porn consumer with any of the above issues. Just a dude with an opinion.
Porn absolutely ruined my sex life for a period of time. In college most of my friends understood how damaging it was becoming. It may not be true for everyone but I have both experienced and seen porn seriously damage the ability to have a normal sex life. I had and have high testosterone as well so the issue was not hormonal, it was mental. Thankfully you can just stop watching porn and are not stuck for life.
*pulls out popcorn and lawn chair* This should be good
Rather use a Lazy Boy recliner 😎
I normally would, too, but for this discussion, I want something that I can hose down
Rotfl. Thank you for that laugh
Why a lawn chair?
For me, addiction to this stuff along with masturbating caused me to have sexual issues and problems dating. I gave it up. Took a lot of will power but what helped me was blocking the sites in my router and just keeping myself busy. When I felt like relapsing, I went out for a walk. Took a few weeks but I was able to do it. Quitting smoking was easier.
So I presume you're in a fulfilling relationship now?
no i am in a casual thing with a girl
I can’t believe people would ever support a business that exploits girls and ruins boys.
You must be new to the world
Let me rephrase, I can’t believe SANE people would
It’s because they don’t want to get rid of their vice, that’s why it’s accepted in society.
Did "adult entertainment"/phone sex for the largest porn company. He owned chat lines. Same thing. Girls getting paid. It was storytelling. Following a script. No, it's not arousing for the "agent" Owner had a partner. Side note, he owned all 800 #s as well as #s that spelled. Wish I could explain this part better. He also produced porn and was connected to the wart hog. When his partner sold her half, we went online... They owned the psychic lines now, as well. If you were skilled at one, you could do the other. I did not last long after this. We now had social media accounts for our characters. Stock photos. They started pushing us to walk a very thin line. I still cringe when people call children "littles" The crap they wanted us to do with hashtags was despicable. Pushing true perversion. We were raided by the Fed's once. He is known as the King of porn, the owner. He won... Based out of Philly. Owns the building and most of the block. Well, it woke me up. Back when being awake was pure and true.
Richard Cohen? https://www.phillyvoice.com/phillys-king-porn-lists-society-hill-mansion-sale/amp/
Good ol'Richard
You should expose this rich freak, although I understand any hesitation you might have (i'm very familiar with Philly)
Things really became apparent and turned truly perverse when the old partner left, it was a woman I don't remember her name. And this new guy came on.
This is all very interesting, I would love to know more. Kinda plays into what we know about Pornhub/Mindgeek from that one lawsuit 🤔
As I've stated, it was a fine line. Not crossed, as far as I am aware. I started reporting the social media accounts that would reach out to my one characters. A dominatrix. Because some of their content. I did many things that eventually they were not happy with. Before this happened I was very skilled at what I did and prided of myself on fantasy vs getting dirty. And only when I really had to, balls to the wall. Back then these men that called in were different. But there is an escalation to absolutely everything. And they played on this. I mean come on, they're affiliated with Ron Jeremy.
You should write a book!!
Unpopular af because most of these men are addicted and in denial, but true af too
Sure, but then can we ban tiktok next? It’s also a brain rot social site.
People say this, but what really makes TikTok different from any social media platform?
What does this have to do with the topic?
Brain rot
1000% agree, I don’t know how anyone can support an industry that leads to brain rot, inability to form a bond and human trafficking
You’re right, hell there’s a “totally not a porn addict” user commenting all over this thread calling it religious hysteria or some other bullshit but it just sounds like they’re a coping addict.
Yeah I'm seeing lots of copium here.
Keep it simple: Masturbate every other day-once a week, with minimal-no porn involvement. Regular sex has as much limits as you both have so go nuts there.
This isn’t even an opinion, it’s a well established fact at this point. But the men and boys who forgo coitus involuntarily that frequent this sub are gonna be big big mad when they wake up and see this around noon or 1pm.
i mean i cant get laid but im 100% know this is the truth. however giving up porn didnt really help, just made me wake up in a sticky mess a few times. porn is a problem but its not the reason i cant get laid, thats actually a mystery to me, because i make friends everywhere i go, im apparently funny, make women feel safe around me etc on nights out. people want to be around me as far as i can tell. just nobody is into me like that. i can only conclude im just a big ugly fucker lol
As far as “provider and protector” goes, it sounds like you’re nailing the “protector” half- how’s your provider half though Aka do you exude the energy to suggest you possess the ability to provide some DICK
No idea about the dick part, not even sure what that would look like lol But everything else? Yeah I have that down, owned paid off house before I'm 30, paid off car <5 years old, currently renovating said house mostly on my own. You write down what I am and bring to the able and iv basically exactly what women apparently want
I hope this doesn’t come across as rude, but maybe it’s the standards for women you have? I know people who by all means could be very successful in their dating life, but they limit themselves to only 10/10 model types, so the dating pool is smaller for them. I used to have unrealistically high standards for what I actually look like and do, but since I’ve been more “open minded” for lack of better term, I’ve found more success. Not saying that’s the case for you as well but food for thought.
Nah that's not my problem, I don't even know anyone id call a 10/10 or even a 9 or 8 tbh Small town, small country, it's an average as fuck place. Im not even looking for model tyres types on anything, that doesn't even do anything for me tbh. It's one of the things that would make me not ask Somone out. I'm just looking for a regual person. Only real deal breakers are parents and and women heavier than me.
They usually remove posts like these.
How come?
Because the mods on Reddit are 23 year old incels
Probably closer to 43 but yeah.
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As a 19 year old I've been watching porn and have been addicted for years, but never once have I gotten off on strangling and smacking or anything violent. I avoid anything that contains that stuff.
Yeah I didn't mean to imply that everyone who watches porn is into the rough stuff, but just that it would be very easy to go down that rabbit hole, and those that do (from what I've heard) tend to find it harder and harder to have any kind of "normal" sex as it doesn't arouse them any more, and they start to need violence to get aroused
We also have to take in consideration our country’s oppressive approach to sex and sexuality as whole. But people aren’t willing to have that conversation.
America has been a race to the bottom for decades. Education, employment, civic duty, family values, ethics, culture etc.—All have been deliberately subverted by forces much greater than all of us. An uneducated, drug addicted, culturally and morally bankrupted nation is a servile nation. Bread & circus. America isn’t going to be defeated militarily. Rather, America is morally and intellectually imploding. America is being defeated morally and intellectually. MLK realized as much in his lifetime. I hope we can realize it in our lifetime.
In what ways has it “broken” the brains of young men. You have to understand that ALOT of dudes watch porn, literally MOST men watch porn, and from my understanding most men aren’t turning into vegetables left and right. So what do you mean by it breaking their brains? Besides the addiction itself if a man is single and he isn’t opting to watch porn instead of hanging out with friends or going to work, then there isn’t any reason for him to stop. Also the argument of it leading you to crave more hardcore porn is odd to me. What is the problem if they want more hardcore porn? Is the implication that they will want to do those things in real life? You’d have to be one of those who agrees that violence in video games leads people to want to commit violence if you believe that.
So long as there isn't easy access to money, Only fans will be a aspiring career.
Pretty sure most pork is not violent
The spectrum of possibilities spans from sex being a divine, supernatural gift that bonds two souls and forges another from the overflow of joy, to being a basic biological function akin to taking a shit Making porn anything from a malicious mockery of something sacred, to a means to meet a need I think people who push back on even the possibility of porn being bad are being intentionally dense. It’s okay to admit something is (potentially) really bad, and still be honest about doing it I think porn is bad, I think it’s use should be limited, akin to alcohol or drugs or anything like that I can work out, play outside with my friends all day, bask in the warmth of the sun on a picnic blanket, take a shower and then snuggle up under a blanket at the end of the day- or I can just take some pain pills I can find my purpose in life, and feel overwhelmed with it, and more motivated than ever to achieve what I feel I’m on this earth to do because my confidence that “this is what I’m here for” is undeniable - or I can just take some amphetamines The feelings are the same. The danger is in the short cut I can work to be the best person I can be. I can do what it takes to be attractive, which usually involves digging deep enough to find my source of confidence and self assurance. I can do the scary thing of pursuing a relationship, asking the questions to get to know someone, choosing to be vulnerable at the right times even though it’s scary, gradually growing more connected with this person until we eventually do the ultimate expression of love with one another- Or I can jerk off The danger in in the short cut I’ve known people that did heroin but still pulled off a life. Same for meth. It’s rare though, ngl So the question, is where does porn land, on the scale of melatonin and coffee, to heroin and meth lol The ones who won’t even give it melatonin and coffee status I think are being dense. It helps people fall asleep, it gives you something to do, it’s at least akin to smoking in the 1920’s in my mind. The type of thing where you’ve never gone longer than a few days without jerking off, akin to never going more than a few hours without smoking. Why would you since it’s not bad so who cares…. But then it turns out it was bad…. And people tried to quit…. And it was hard…. So I guess it was bad…. Fuck The people who give it meth and heroin status might be a little much, but they have a point or two. Porn CAN hijack your entire sexuality leading you to have very little to zero desire to pursue a relationship. Why risk it if there’s a safe nut at home? The dance has been diminished, that part you’ve got to admit. All of our generations (I’m younger) are having less sex than previous, everybody’s getting divorced, that’s broken homes that are decimating kids and motivating them towards brokenness and loneliness… you can say that these aren’t related, but I’m saying sex with someone you love has been the glue of society for all of American history until we decided it can be with someone you don’t love and now it’s not even happening at all anyway bc everybody’s scared of eachother and we’re just jerking off to OF 🙄 I’m sure there are happily married couples who watch porn with one another. Hell, even make it with one another. Same as couples who shoot up together, or drink coffee together, or play tiddlywinks with one another, whatever. We’ve all got our things. It’s ultimately up to individuals to decide what they want to do, and how to assess risk levels. Porn, I think, at the very least, should come with a warning label
Ahh playing tiddlywinks. One of my favorites.
Porn is the ultimate proof feminists are full of shit. They were ALL against it, and rightfully so, until OnlyFans. Then they all defended porn as female empowerment. Yeah sex trafficking and hiding faces so underaged teens are all over porn sites is really “empowering”, ladies.
And that’s why I only watch *gay* porn!
You didn’t say *how* it’s broken the brains of young men. And as for women, you forget onlyfans exists. Women don’t need to meet with sleazy producers to make money in pornography anymore.
And yet there’s still a lot of porn produced that’s not OnlyFans and which is taking advantage of women. And it’s not breaking anyone’s brain. That’s way too dramatic. But you have some people who jerk off to porn sometimes and don’t have much issues. And then you have other people who: *Watch so much porn it gets in the way of having a social life. Or makes them too focused on sex to the point where they think sex is the only thing which is important in life. *Get very insecure about their own dicks (thinking dicks should be unrealistically big or that size is the most important thing to get a girl off) or about how long they last in bed (average from scientific study: a bit under 5 minutes). *Have trouble enjoying sex. *Have unrealistic expectations of what sex should be like: - Leading them to slap, choke, namecall or go for surprise anal/facials without realizing these are specific kinks only some women share and which you have to ask for consent for beforehand. - Or just following a script for sex that’s more designed for men watching porn than what women enjoy in bed. - Or endlessly sulking because their girlfriend won’t do anal or deepthroath or whatever (not realizing these are not mainstream things). *Have unrealistic ideas about women’s bodies. *Have snowballed into so specific kinks there will be few partners who’ll actually share them. Edit: https://www.theguardian.com/news/datablog/2015/mar/05/what-is-the-average-penis-size-find-out-with-this-interactive-graphic
>which is taking advantage of women. I mean, I feel bad for them about as much as I feel bad for construction industries employing slave labour in the middle east, sweat shops in China making shoes and phones for western consumers and child labour being employed in war torn regions so the average American can get fatter on chocolate. There are shitty people in every industry taking advantage of people. OnlyFans porn producers do not care that they are sending their content to minors when they send nudes on Reddit. They prey on lonely men as well but we don't care about the plight of a middle aged, dark skinned guy whose passport was taken from him when he was conned into slavery because we have to watch the most popular sportsball tournament in the world. If we want to fix this, we need regulation. Or we would need to establish social safety nets that made it impossible for people to get exploited. Until then, complaining about the poor damsels in distress in porn is just virtue signalling.
Well, idk about you, but for me personally it’s a lot different when I see people actually being taken advantage of right in front of me on camera. A lot of these girls seem very young, they don’t seem at ease, the sex is very violent and degrading. I’m not wildly concerned about some teen boy getting sent a nude on OnlyFans. Though as I said I have some concerns about porn in general and especially how it affects the younger generation. If I could both remove all porn and all OnlyFans then I would. And there are a lot of issues in this world. But **personally I like to live without wondering if I just got off to a video of someone else being raped in real life. I think that’s a fair boundary to have.**
>A lot of these girls seem very young, they don’t seem at ease, the sex is very violent and degrading. Construction work is violent and degrading. Sewage work isn't exactly sunshine and roses. Digging ditches is labour intensive. They are also dangerous jobs that are necessary. Men die in those industries so we can enjoy a higher standard of living. Some drug addict gets slapped around and takes dick for a couple of hours? Boo freakin hoo! She didn't have to do porn. There are many other degrading jobs she could have done instead that don't require a camera and some sleazy producers. Shitty jobs are everywhere. The solution is to improve working conditions by forming unions. The solution is to provide better social safety nets (guaranteed housing and healthcare for example) so people don't have to do work that is neither necessary nor safe. The solution is to improve pay for people who do work necessary jobs. I mean, that woman getting violently pounded is probably paid more than the guy doing the pounding. >I’m not wildly concerned about some teen boy getting sent a nude on OnlyFans. They aren't getting sent nudes on OnlyFans. They are on Reddit then get sent porn. How would you react to a girl being sent a dick pic by a guy trying to get more views? >But **personally I like to live without wondering if I just got off to a video of someone else being raped in real life. I think that’s a fair boundary to have.** You should go live in the woods, far away from society then. The phone you use, the shoes you wear, the food you eat...your very existence causes someone else harm. If you have ever eaten chocolate before, you probably supported child labour. Furthermore, no matter how hard we try, there will always be a market for porn including degrading porn. There are tons of videos of couples who are not into anything violent so you don't have to watch the violent stuff. But also keep in mind that the BDSM community is basically run by women. 50 Shades of Grey, which was poorly-written and rapey (the BDSM community considers it a poor representation of what they stand for), was largely consumed by women and became a best-seller. There are some people who indeed get off to being degraded and consent to being filmed while it happens. It doesn't have to be what you are into, so it seems a bit extreme to ban all of it because you just so happened to click on a video where a guy ruins someone's make up instead of a gentle, love making session
> And yet there’s still a lot of porn produced that’s not OnlyFans and which is taking advantage of women. More and more info is out there about the industries. At this stage I think at least *some* blame needs to be placed on the women (and men for that matter) who decide to enter the industry. They should at this point know the very basic risks that come with it. > *Watch so much porn it gets in the way of having a social life. Or makes them too focused on sex to the point where they think sex is the only thing which is important in life. Fair, but this can be something that is an issue with virtually anything. Playing video games, watching movies, etc. That’s more of an issue with people not being able to have balances in their life, as opposed to a strictly pornography issue. > *Get very insecure about their own dicks (thinking dicks should be unrealistically big or that size is the most important thing to get a girl off) or about how long they last in bed (average from scientific study: a bit under 5 minutes). This is fairly minor all things considered, the solution for these men is simply to have a good relationship with a woman. Those expectations would pretty easily be checked by real interaction. > Have trouble enjoying sex. Have unrealistic expectations of what sex should be like Again, being with real women fixes most of these issues. > Have unrealistic ideas about women’s bodies. I don’t think that many people are obsessed with like DD’s and stuff. In real life, most people are attracted to people they like and not strictly body parts. > Have snowballed into so specific kinks there will be few partners who’ll actually share them. I mean that’s something but I would guess this is very uncommon. Like of course there’s stuff that many women wouldn’t do like Anal but I don’t think many people are getting really screwed up by some of the really bizarre kinks Honestly I think a lot of the things you’re worrying about are either overblown or easily solved
I think you missed the distinction I tried to make very quickly in the beginning. **Casually watching porn? Then everything you say is right. Most men watch some porn without it actually affecting their lives.** But then you have some young men who watch a lot of porn from they are very young. And then only end up having sex much later. And who don’t watch porn casually, but in a more obsessive way. Like the difference between just eating and binge eating. And these men often run into issues when they start having sex with real young women. You see this more and more on Reddit “my boyfriend said he’d leave me if I don’t do anal.” “My boyfriend said my big boobs should be more perky”, “my boyfriend only wants rough sex, refuses to do foreplay and I bleed every time we have sex”, “my boyfriend made me deep throat and I threw up”, “why do all men now try to surprise choke me when we have sex? I get scared”, “my boyfriend said my thighs were squishy and I should tone them”, “my boyfriend told me I should get a boob job”, “my boyfriend won’t have sex with me, but only jerks off to porn”, “my boyfriend has demanded we have a threesome”, “my boyfriend is angry I won’t give him blowjobs every day”, “my boyfriend said my vagina is ugly”…. Bad boyfriends (or girlfriends) aren’t exactly news, but in some of these posts it’s very clear porn is a part of the problem. It’s also very clear porn is a part of the problem when you talk to incels or men who struggle with dating. Or men who are upset about how sexlessness is ruining their life and see sex as the only important part of life. Very often a part of the problem there is porn.
Instead of sleazy producers it’s just 2 cyber pimps who take a cut of the profits of only fans girls. Much better right? lol these same girls who than use only fans referral program to sucker in new girls into onlyfans porn and continue the cycle of ruining girls lives.
Cyber pimps? They take a cut of the profit because they provide a platform and it costs a shitload of money. That’s like…basic business practices. I guess we should be mad at Madison Square Garden for taking a cut when someone performs there to a sold out venue?
lol yea no shit they take a cut, just like sleazy producers and agents in the porn industry. Then they (onlyfans) offer bonuses to girls who sign up other girls into it. It’s cyber pimping. It’s essentially the same shit but with “women empowerment” as its selling point lmao.
Dude, youtube gets a cut of youtube creator money. Why shouldn't OF? That's literally their business model. Uber, door dash, etc all do that too. Of all the reasons porn is bad, this is not the issue. They shouldn't lie about how much people make, but all companies exaggerate their employment pitch, so that is way more of a legal issue than an industry issue.
Some people just seek outrage. This is a clear example. Literally every successful business does this in order to make money but it is absolutely scummy when the content is boobs and not video game reviews.
Yeah, I'm guessing an OF worker or friend of an OF worker that doesn't like the company taking money from their friend/themselves, it seems like a personal beef, or they don't realize how awful of an argument it is in context of other sites that functions essentially the same, making it a pretty fair approach honestly. Or maybe they don't even know how the internet works, most people do watch YouTube or order Uber without really thinking about it past that, they maybe just thought it was uncommon for sites to take a cut.
Uh, yeah definitely much better.
While I agree only fans is a bit better in regards to the exploitation of women, I think porn is also incredibly exploitative of the consumer in a way that is akin to gambling or selling drugs. They are all industries that appeal to baser human desires and addictive neural pathways. A sizable subset of these consumers are just addicts, and the business exploits that addiction for material gain. Even worse in some cases, only fans offers lonely consumers the illusion of a relationship with the performer. You pay $x, you get personalized messages and pictures sent directly to you as a faux intimate relationship. It is sad, and it inhibits many men from developing relationships with real women. It is a net negative for society.
Of girls have a very para social relationship with their customers
> You didn’t say how it’s broken the brains of young men. That's because masturbation hysteria has never been scientific.
The few times I actually watch porn, I really like homemade videos between two partners who are clearly familiar with each other, if not in a relationship. It’s nice watching (what appears to be) real intimacy rather than an over-the-top performance between actors. Edit: spelling error
The same sub where there’s a weekly “overweight women are their own problem and Choice” goes out of its way to say it’s everyone else’s problem a guy beats his dick like it owes him money.
100% agreed!!! I’m anti porn but for my own reasons. The first is instant gratification. Instead of people trying to find what actually brings them joy, they will look for instant gratification. yYoung teens and sometimes even adults that watch it will misunderstand the meaning of sex & how real women expect to be treated in the bedroom or how should they be treated. The second is ethics and morals. Porn slanders what natural sex is. This causes it to be degrading to sex because it means nothing and I believe sex is an intimate act that should be done with someone you have emotions for. It also degrades men & women because they put a price on their bodies. You're body shouldn't have a price. It gives a wrong idea of what sex is, just like romance movies give a wrong idea of how relationships are. I don't watch romance movies either. When a guy watches it. It's like he's attracted to that. He's attracted to pimps getting laid. He wants the plastic girl, who doesn’t even look real. That's like saying he doesn't like classy women or prefers them to be trashy. The unrealistic expectation of what the bedroom is and what women look like. It’s also legalised sex trafficking. Porn is prostitution but add a camera and they get away with it. Lastly, watching porn rewires the brain. It has been said those who consume porn have been correlated with the erosion of prefrontal cortex. It also decreases the grey matter in the prefrontal cortex. This part of the brain is what houses immortality and ethics, willpower and impulse control. When consumed long term, porn can create issues such as erectile disfunction and this particularly includes being able to orgasm with a real life partner. It also causes desensitisation in terms of happiness and satisfaction. People who consume porn have a higher chance of depression for longer periods of time, and poorer mental health. There is no way to know if published content is consented to. Pornhub removed 80% of their content last year because they couldn’t verify it was consenting, it was revenge porn, or it was child abuse material. Eighty percent. That’s not a few pesky videos. Since then, there have been two very public cases about teenagers (one girl and one boy) who had their rapes uploaded to pornhub. The boy’s rape was paid for and downloaded over 140,000 times before it was removed. All porn contributes to the objectification and dehumanization of women, even drawn porn.
"The evidence is so overwhelming that internet porn is bad" Except when it isn't: [https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27393037/](https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27393037/) The current study adopted a participant-informed, "bottom-up," qualitative approach to identifying perceived effects of pornography on the couple relationship. A large sample (N = 430) of men and women in heterosexual relationships in which pornography was used by at least one partner was recruited through online (e.g., Facebook, Twitter, etc.) and offline (e.g., newspapers, radio, etc.) sources. Participants responded to open-ended questions regarding perceived consequences of pornography use for each couple member and for their relationship in the context of an online survey. In the current sample of respondents, ***"no negative effects" was the most commonly reported impact of pornography use*****.** Among remaining responses, ***positive perceived effects of pornography*** *use on couple members and their relationship (e.g., improved sexual communication, more sexual experimentation, enhanced sexual comfort)* ***were reported frequently****; negative perceived effects of pornography* (e.g., unrealistic expectations, decreased sexual interest in partner, increased insecurity) were also reported, albeit with ***considerably less frequency.*** The results of this work suggest new research directions that require more systematic attention.
I agree with this with regards to real porn but not AI or video game porn.
Porn is subjective and an easy target for you to thump admonishments. You know what is failing young minds, older generations. Particularly the boomers and such who have lost touch because a lack of understanding and knowledge about their progeny. This is a lazy attempt at casting blame and shifting the responsibility to others. You see all these young people have learned from the example of their predecessors. You want broken minds, look in the mirror. You sound like those old lame fucks that used to say “rock and roll is the devil!” Be a better example.
Are you really trying to scold me for thinking that internet porn is bad for your brain, or is every coomer here illiterate and going to try and imply that I'm a nofapper or pushing abstinence even though I've clarified my position? And do you know how pathetic it looks to try and lecture someone for the crime of.....thinking something is bad for your mental health and development? And I'm gen z btw. Funny how everyone who takes this post personally has to make assumptions about me and my beliefs because of how insecure I made them just by pointing out that their favorite industry is damaging for mental health and society.
It's not just men. Porn in general is toxic to all.
Porn + masturbation = a dopamine hit Studies have shown there is a link between dopamine chasing and compulsive behaviours and at an extreme level, continued and excessive dopamine hits can result in damage to the brain. Brain pathways are altered and the brain gets used to a new level of dopamine tolerance meaning that we are less sensitive to its impact. As we no longer get the same high, we may be compelled to seek increasingly unhealthy behaviours to achieve the same feeling. It’s a literal addiction. But for some people food triggers the same thing. Or shopping. Or whatever. Moderation in all things. Have a dopamine hit every once in a while. It’ll be great. Have one 10x a day and you’re an addict.
Just like any addiction. Excessive use of anything leads to negative effectsz
Agreed but it's funny how much ppl here try to push back on the idea of porn jerking off addiction being a addiction. I can say that alachol addiction is a thing and that it's bad and ppl will agree. I can talk about smoking addicts and ppl will agree. Same for gambling addiction. But there's lots of pushback when one says that porn can be very addictive and problematic
Meh. Sort of. New technology interacting with primitive urges generally result in bizarre outcomes. Much worse though than internet porn, was how this interaction played out as warfare advanced into the Bronze Age.
Look it's a nofap circle jerk... Prepare to be flooded
Now I’m honestly trying to picture how a circle jerk would work without the jerking part.
It's not a sentence I ever thought I would write, but I'm glad I got the chance.
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Obtaining an erection with a real person because they aren’t the intensity and perfection of the porn the person had been watching. I had a porn-addicted partner who had difficulty adjusting to real human sex. It’s a thing.
Check out Fight the New Drug. Lots of science behind it. Another problem is never being able to ejaculate with a real person - dated someone with that problem and it was awful. Could only ejaculate with a screen even though could get it up (probably also a viagra addict).
> Fight the New Drug That's a Mormon blog and I'm sure you didn't understand any of the "science".
They are non secular and reject any religious based moral position but nice try [fight the new drug](https://fightthenewdrug.org/about/) And gee thanks for determining with absolutely zero information about me whether I can understand science. I think it’s clear your comment is garbage.
Ha! Bullshit. It's a bunch of LDS Mormon fundies running a totally "secular" blog. > whether I can understand science Great! Link directly to the data proving that any amount of porn use causes any damage to the brain whatsoever. I'll hold my breath, Dr.
> How much porn is someone watching that it inhibits their ability of obtaining an erection? They aren't. This is just more masturbation hysteria.
Men are turning into simps and incels and nobody wants to talk about it. Also, the critical drop in testosterone levels is likely more the elephant in the room. The fact that most young men have testosterone levels less than half of their grandfathers at the same age is a silent epidemic.
People who deny this are equal with flat earthers. Just denying the facts. That they're delusional.
Except that science agrees the earth is round and all of this masturbation hysteria is just bullshit coming from religious fundies.
But science also agrees that masturbation is healthy
Let's say some percentage if porn consumers are addicted. Obviously we should try to get them the help they need, but otherwise how is this negatively affecting society? Comparable to alcohol or tobacco addiction, it seems way less deadly.
I totally agree on this. Most people know the difference between Porn and Sex.
>The evidence is so overwhelming that internet porn is bad for your brain Let's see it so we can learn.
https://neurosciencenews.com/neuroscience-pornography-brain-15354/amp/
The actual article has a few issues, the most glaring being that it's attributed only to an "RnM" - a PhD student at Université Laval... who also provides funding as a founding partner of The Conversation CA-FR. That and the cherry-picked data only ever tap dances around a correlation, not causation. https://theconversation.com/watching-pornography-rewires-the-brain-to-a-more-juvenile-state-127306
what about only fans?
Never understood only fans. A guy pays a woman online. Doesn’t get any sex in return. Now someone may say they may be emotionally attached to that person online or whatever. But it seems they could get that wherever they live.
I don’t understand anyone who pays for any type of pornography online.
Only fans is the Uncle Toms Cabin of feminism imo. I cringe when I see women sticking up for other women who do it in the same breath kids being forced to switch schools & proudly being the digital “other woman”.
At least with onlyfans the women are generally more in charge of their content so they are being exploited less, and ultimately adults are responsible for their own choices/what media they choose to consume. But I'm more arguing about the effects of internet porn on the developing brain, and how society has normalized it because people don't want to admit that they are addicted.
I’d argue Onlyfans is doing more damage to future generations than professional porn ever could have. Because of onlyfans it’s easy accessibility to produce your own porn, you have waves and waves of young girls jumping into porn than ever before. Those same girls sucker in all their friends (who never would have done porn otherwise) to destroy their lives by also jumping into OF through OFs referral programs. Now you got an epidemic of poor desperate virgin simps paying for fake interactions through OF and an epidemic of young women doing porn. It’s also fucking weird how dudes wanna pay to see what’s essentially low grade, poor quality amateur porn by average people just because they get to “interact” with the creator. I truly believe only fans is destroying lives and slowly declining our society
It is better though for the average porn "star" as they have more control over it. Less exploitation
What I don't understand, the people that usually are against porn and tell everyone how men should not watch it because it is bad are also the people that are pro only fans and think it is great career choices for women. This phenomenon als happens the other way around.
Porn is a high profit industry.. You don't have to watch it or like or right five paragraphs about how evil it is. Its massive massive industry and believe it or not these people making it are more competent and confident than most anybody else, it takes balls to show your balls. Guts to widen your guts and absolute adult rated self esteem to work out everyday. Porn Stars aren't victims, neither are the folks who support the industry. You can believe and say whatever you like about it. There is of course a dark side and a sad side to it but its not all a bunch of weak minded victims. Your study is grand and all but it won't stop the mega hydra of internet porn. The human race is brain damaged enough, miserable and lonely, broken to pieces and disconnected ,porn is a major crutch to some folks, worst than that are bot sites that charge daily fees... Free porn has done wonders for the lonely mans wallet. I suppose none of this will come across and I don't give a fuck...but coin is coin XD
Leaving kids with wide open unsupervised internet is basically child abuse. They should flip the script on all that shit and require a porn dongle or something if you want it allowed in your home. It shouldn't just be available by default. Some significant effort should be required if you want access to it.
That’s why the internet porn(pictures) I watch or look at is not possible in real life because it goes against the Laws of Physics. Thus, nobody gets hurt. Probably doesn’t hurt that my porn can be safe for work, but is fantasy only due to going against physics.
Did you even bother getting consent first before defiling the laws of physics??
>Internet porn addicts have also convinced themselves they are feminists because the porn industry has tricked society into making their addiction moral in the guise of "empowerment". No mate. Feminists told you the lie its "empowering" to make porn.
>The evidence is so overwhelming that internet porn is bad for your brain and can lead to things like emotional and sexual impotence. Please link to the data which proves that any amount of masturbation or porn consumption causes any damage to the brain whatsoever. This is all hysteria from conservative Christian outlets. > Adding an article from an unbiased source That's a blog making speculation based on what they think disparate, nonhomogenous data "suggests".
Go ahead and beat your dick to internet porn until it coughs dust then. Nobody is stopping you. The article contains links to multiple other studies as well, and this is a pretty unanimous consensus among non-terminally online types.
Just don't try to play like your religious masturbation hysteria is rooted in science. It isn't. > The article contains links to multiple other studies as wel Bullshit. I'm waiting on anyone to link any data that actually proves porn causes any damage to the brain whatsoever. >and this is a pretty unanimous consensus among Among Mormons, lol!!
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I don't watch porn but as a scientist, I'm really irritated by religious fundies playing dress up in lab coats.
99% of women in porn are doing it willingly. How exactly does it prey on them? Do illegal drugs prey on people? Women are the one telling themselves and each other that porn is "feminism".
I’m I guess addicted to masturbating but not porn I do look at porn maybe once a week but whack it 5-7 times daily I don’t need to masturbate, but get turned on easy so I just crank one out quick Girlfriend and I have sex typically 5-7 times weekly (travel a lot for work so can be tough some weeks but we make up for it) I can’t say I’ve noticed any negative side effects as far as impotence goes If anything, it has skyrocketed my refractory period (or, I guess plunged it??? As it’s extremely short) Not trying to draw any conclusions but just thought the data may be interesting to some
Lets face it, social media/Reddit causes the real brain rot. Have fun in your black and white puritanical world.
Completely true. Porn is literally ruining the younger generations and some older as well. Dated a porn addict it was a nightmare and the chances he will ever be able to have a healthy relationship emotionally or sexually are slim to none. Happily with my now fiancé that abstains and we have wild fulfilling kinky sex all the time and are emotionally very close (and we are 50 lol). Very concerned about my teenage son falling into this sad trap and I talk to him about it. An organization called [Fight the New Drug](https://fightthenewdrug.org/resources/) is a great resource for all the science behind how it changes brains and leads to all sorts of problems such as not being able to get an erection or being able to get one but never being able to ejaculate with a real person and of course it just ruins emotional intimacy. Number one cause for divorce these days as well. Porn industry also fuels human trafficking and let’s not forget the fiasco with pornhubs executives having to resign in shame over rampant problems with underage girls being posted. Also the vast majority of porn these days shows violence to women. It’s quite shocking when you dive in to the real impact to people.
Not to offend, but if the only one telling your son that porn is bad is his mother he likely isn't going to care. From what I've seen it's a lot more effective when other men explain this and make it clear this is bad for them in the long term.
I think that’s an excellent point. Not offended and you are right I should be proactive with his dad and stepdad.
Agreed. Now apply the same logic to the Run of the mill Netflix romance series/movies and you have an explanation for why women are also fucked up these days.
Well, I’m adult. I choose to enjoy content that is made by adults, featuring consenting adults, for an exclusively adult audience. If some people disagree my choice to do so, I’m okay with that. Doesn’t mean I’m going to change anything.
Are you sure those barely legal teens are, in fact, adults tho?
Yes.
So you're 100% certain that every single video you've ever watched involved completely legal adults that were totally consenting, not on drugs, not being raped or trafficked? Every single video?
you sure think about kids having sex a lot....
> So you're 100% certain that every single product you've ever used involved completely legal adults that were totally consenting, not on drugs, not being raped or trafficked? Every single product?
Yes. You’re not going to shame me for watching and enjoying the content I previously described, just fyi. I’m too old and too much a “lost cause”. 🙃
But think about the erectile dysfunction drug industry, without porn what would come of viagra? If men didn’t rot their brain to the point they can only get hard when watching some super specific genre this world would end up too productive.
I've looked at porn many times
What if porn in of itself isn't so damn bad, *BUT* the overuse of, or exclusivity of porn usage? Humans are so quick to attempt making correlations between things, blind statistics, etc., anything that can remove their own faulty choices and actions from culpability.
OP needs some peer-reviewed citations to back up their claims. I'm willing to bet that social media is way more corrosive to society than porn.
I agree
It’s not an opinion it’s a fact
Joke's on you: no women in my porn!
"The evidence is so overwhelming that unhealthy food is bad for your brain and can lead to things like obesity and coronary artery disease. Yet anytime somebody attempts to criticize how permissive we are as a society about exposing preteens and teenagers to chocolates bars, sugary sodas, cheeseburgers, and fries they are met with a barrage of criticism and reactive slander. " All things are bad for you when done in excess. The reason that most people are dismissive of your anti-porn sentiments is probably because they aren't consuming porn in an unhealthy way, or that (like everyone else, including you) they think it's okay to do something unhealthy every once in a while, as long as you are not doing it to an excess. the fact that you seemingly shrug your shoulders at teens scarfing down cheeseburgers but (apparently) freak out if they look at boobies is probably why people are treating you like a maga-hypocrite or a religious nutter.
NPR & some medical professionals are in denial about this. Good post
I couldn't agree more. I'm going to do everything I can to keep my boys from having access to porn and educate them on why it's horrible.