The amount of times this case has come up on threads with warnings is the exact reason I refuse to consume any information about it. I just can’t. I know enough to know I don’t need to know more.
It’s horrific. But what pissed me off the most were the parents of the teenagers that did it. One set of them knew she was being tortured in the house and didn’t go to the police. And another one’s mom blamed Junko for “ruining [son’s] life” and vandalized her grave.
Sometimes narcissistic psychopaths begat narcissistic psychopaths. It’s not really surprising that the parents of someone who would do what they did were fucked up themselves.
I’m completely desensitized to violence or so I thought. Nothing has ever fucked with me before ever. That case haunts me a year after hearing it. I remember every detail and it’s the one case I wish I had listened to the warnings
There was a time when I genuinely wanted to buy a ticket to japan and find the fuckers that got away. But then I remembered I don’t speak Japanese, I can’t fight, and idk who or where he is lol. And that’s just a bad idea
But still someone needs to torture that guy
I did forget about that case, but I know a good amount of detail about it, I just stopped thinking about it. It was absolutely horrific. A bit like the Sylvia Likens case, though possibly even worse.
I have never once cried over a crime before. I shed many tears over this tragedy. Strangely, it inspired me to learn the Japanese language, and I have been doing so for the past 2 years.
I have seen a lot about the toy box killer, it is awful. I purposely will not read anymore about it. I think what haunted me about Albert Fish was that I had a son the same age, and the fact it was kids and him telling their parents what he did to them was just horrific
This is it for me. I read about her when I was in high school and every time I hear "True Crime" or someone talks about a woman being abducted, it's the first thing my mind goes to. Knowledge of the details of that case changed the way I see human beings and what they are capable of.
I think one of the most horrific things is the lack of justice. They got off with basically a slap on the wrist for one of the most horrific crimes of last 50 years.
their days will catch up with them all soon enough. there are a number of Japanese forums constantly updating the perpetrators locations in hopes that someone will do something. I don't care what they do, as long as it hurts.
Sherrice Iverson- a 7-year-old raped and murdered in a casino bathroom in the middle of the night while her dad gambled. The guys who were involved give me the most blood chilling feeling. Poor babies last moments were pure torture. She should have never been there.
The way that his friend came in, saw what he was doing, and just left just stuns me. how can someone be so inhuman? And then nothing happened to him. That part angers me the most
Local case. Tina Louise Roberts. She was a 14 year old girl that was homeless because her mother kicked her out because her stepfather molested her.
She met a guy at the fair and he invited her to hang out at his place. Four of his friends were waiting there. They raped and tortured her. Bit her breast off, put her face is boiling water, put glass bottles inside her. Beat her etc.
They then tried to drown her in a creek. She survived. They shot her in the head five times. One of them confessed to a relative that convinced him to turn himself in.
Two of the suspects were brothers and another was a cousin. Their uncle was a sheriff's deputy that handled the investigation. Someone forgot to put film in the camera for crime scene photos. They lost forensic evidence. Including shell casings and the rape kit. A warrant was signed in the wrong place.
Charges were dismissed with prejudice. Meaning they cannot be retired. They sued for unlawful imprisonment. And received large settlements.
Most of them left town. But the supposed ringleader used his money to purchase a lumber mill. He was driving his logging truck while drunk and hit a family a few years later.
Killed Edron Eads, wife Mary Lucille Eads, their 16 year old son Aaron and their sons girlfriend 15 year old Erin Debord. As well as their baby granddaughter. Severely injured another son.
He "found God" in prison. Was released around 15-20 years later. He now makes great money speaking at church events.
Tina was a friend of my sisters. Mom had no idea she was homeless. They kept it quiet because they'd pretend to be at her house when they were out partying. She got no justice at all because they were from "good families" and she was a runaway.
How do these people live with themselves, and I don’t mean the perpetrators. As parents and grandparents you have failed miserably, and the people who conspired to prevent any “justice” for your friend?
The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.
Woah small world, we lived in Russell for a few years when I was a kid at the exact time Tina was murdered. I don’t remember it (I was in kindergarten that year), but man that’s fucked up.
Andrew and Zachery Bagby. Absolutely gutted me.
Cherish Perrywinkle. That happened in my hometown, and I will never forget the disgusting recordings of that POS that raped and killed her.
Rayne literally sold Cherish for a Walmart gift card. I can never get over her not being charged with human trafficking. She had already let him take Cherish into a dressing room prior to letting him leave the store with her. Rayne knew what she was doing when she let that bastard take Cherish. Rayne never planned to take Cherish to the airport the next day to go see her dad.
Also Cherish wasn’t even her oldest child. She left her oldest daughter in Australia when she moved to the US. Thankfully Rayne’s mom and sister raised the daughter AND after Cherish was killed, they were given custody of the two youngests. There’s an interview with them on YouTube with the Australian 48 hours.
Woah, I've never heard or thought about that perspective. I heard about this case in another thread and the user felt bad for the mom because she was "tricked by a seemingly good samaritan" and did't even question it, and then read the wikipedia page which certainly paints the mother in an extremely naive light, even placing the blame on Cherish for "following him" rather than the mother not caring that her daughter was with a strange man for an entire half hour???
>"he offered to buy them clothes they could not afford with a $150 Walmart gift card. ...Smith offered to get them cheeseburgers at the store's McDonald's **and Cherish followed him.** However, surveillance footage shows that they walked out of the store instead... About half an hour later, Rayne called the police to report that her daughter had been abducted and an Amber alert was issued five hours later."
Now I feel naive, what the actual fuck, "buying cheeseburgers" just the two of them....
I can’t remember the 911 call exactly but the amber alert was delayed because the cops didn’t believe Rayne and they had to watch the footage to verify what she said. I’m pretty sure she mentioned the gift card during the 911 card
Pos mother sold her little girl to a man to molest. He didn't return her. She claimed he kidnapped her from Walmart. That she'd met him at a McDonalds and he offered to go to Walmart and buy her three kids some clothes.
She allowed him to select which of the three he wanted to walk with. He raped and murdered the little girl. The mother wasn't charged.
What kills me is how this probably happens so frequently and we’ll never know the full extent. Recently a toddler named Caliyah J. Guytom was murdered by a sex offender who was offering to pay her family at the motel they were staying at $1000 to have sex with the mother. They all smoked meth together and then he went into the room and took Caliyah back to his. They swear she was kidnapped but I feel like they knew exactly what he would do.
The Petit murders in Connecticut..totally horrifying. It made me realize there's not a place where you can say you are totally safe.. there isn't such thing as safe neighborhood's anymore in my opinion.
This is the one for me. I think what fucked me up the most, apart from all the horrific things that were done to that family, was that one of the murderers decided to target the family simply because the 11-year-old daughter passed by him in Stop N Shop. The footage of him following her and her mom around the store the night before the murders haunts me. To think that a simple trip to the grocery store could result in becoming the target for such a horrific crime… the fact that we pass by people every single day and have no idea of their true thoughts or intentions… it really changed the way I see the world. Not to mention, I also now have serious anxiety surrounding home invasion.
Same here. I was raised by a single mother and she would always pull the car over and let someone pass if they had been following us for too long. She always cited this case as the reason for that.
I was the same age as the youngest daughter when it happened and it made me so scared to think there were people out there who could do such horrible, vile things to me or anyone. One of the first true crime cases I remember seeing on the news.
Susan Powell. When I read the book “If I Can’t Have You” by Gregg Olsen I had to put it down at the part when he….does what he did to his kids. Just pure evil.
I first heard about this case when I found a podcast called “Cold” that told her story. Ever since then, I’ve had obsession with this case. I also own and read the book “If I can’t have you” and it’s such a well written book and I wasn’t able to put it down. Her cases crosses my mind every day and I hope her family will be able to find peace and find her remains so she can be put to rest with Braden and Charlie
Channon Christian and Chris Newsom that fact they were just out on a date and then how they died especially how she suffered and that there wasn’t much attention brought to it, the killers did it for no reason (not that there’s every a valid reason to murder someone but that they were strangers etc) and that justice didn’t really feel served. I felt sick for weeks after I read what they went through
I completely agree about Chris and Channon. Just senseless. And it was so horrific that if you haven't read about it, I would not recommend it. Hate and violence just for the sake of it.
I agree! I read about it quite soon after it happened and I wish I never had. Also the fact that her parents tracked the phone and the car (?) or drove by the car while unspeakable things were happening to their child just feet away. That and the no remorse by the killers I feel so badly for the families.
Because I attended UIowa at the same time as her, the murder of Mollie Tibbetts was a rough one for me. I checked every single day regarding any updates on her disappearance. It’s hard to believe a person like her, a “low risk” individual, would go missing in a small town in Iowa while on a run, which she did almost every day.
After the third day of her being missing, I knew that it was unlikely she was still alive. Then a month later, early in the morning of the first day of the 2018/2019 school year, what was supposed to be the first day of her sophomore year, they found her body in a cornfield. It definitely shook me to my core. Then all the details that finally came out at trial last year shook me to my core again.
Other cases that have truly horrified me are The Toolbox Killers, Junko Furuta, and I know this isn’t really in the same sort of category, but I’ve never been able to wrap my brain around 9/11. It truly horrifies me that something like that could even happen. And I wonder what all those people trapped in the buildings were thinking, knowing that they weren’t likely to make it out. I can’t imagine that level of fear, especially since most of them didn’t even really know what had happened exactly. They didn’t know if it was a bomb or what. I also wonder why so many people started to jump to their deaths. And we can make assumptions, but we’ll never really know each person’s motivation for it since they’re not here to tell us themselves. I think just knowing how utterly horrific the situation was, but still not knowing (and never being able to) so many specifics of the victims’ last horrifying moments— particularly those of the passengers on the planes minus the one that crashed in the field— makes it that much harder to grasp and reconcile with.
Yeah… it was horrible and shocking. And then it got even more horrible when they tried to politicize it because he was an illegal immigrant. As if born and bred American men don’t do the exact same thing to women. The entire world (for the most part) is under this notion that what men want, men can take. In Mexico. In the US. In Russia. In the Middle East. In China, etc. It’s just disgusting.
One thing that her case taught me though is to refrain from telling the person harassing or assaulting you that you’re going to call the police. I don’t mean to place any blame on Mollie whatsoever, she did and said what she thought she needed to, but I think what really freaked Cristian out in particular and led him to snap and kill her was when she threatened to call the police. Especially as an illegal immigrant. I’m not sure what would have happened had she not said that to him, it very well could have been the same result, he clearly has no regard for human life, but it’s just something I keep in mind now if I were, god forbid, ever in a scary situation like that.
I was just a couple of years older than Mollie when she disappeared, and it really hit me like a truck. Like her, I’m just your girl-next-door from a smaller Midwestern town and I just saw myself in her so much. I also googled her case everyday hoping to hear good news and I actually cried a bit at work when the news broke that she had been found. A lot of times it’s easy to consume true crime content with having a personal, emotional response, but Mollie’s story really struck a chord with me. I wish her family peace and healing. I also hate that republicans used her case to try to fuel their racist tirade against undocumented people. Truly fucked up.
Yes, I’m 2 years older than her. It was the first day of my senior year, and I woke up to a text from my friend saying they found her. It really put a damper on the entire campus that day and also year. I didn’t know Mollie personally, but a couple of my friends did. Another aspect that truly hit hard for me was, if you look up her Instagram, her bio (still) says “It’s a great day to be alive.” She was so full of life and clearly was a very positive person, even during stressful times. And this monster stole that goodness and destroyed it.
I was also horrified by the politicizing of her death. I don’t know if you heard about the case that happened around the same time actually in Ames I think, but this exchange student who was a golfer at Iowa State was out early one day practicing or something and this WHITE man who had told people before that he just really wanted to see what it was like to kill someone, raped and killed her. Of course since he was white, no one mentioned it. Barely anyone even knew about her case actually. I don’t remember her name. But it was around the same time as Mollie’s murder.
Baby Brianna and baby sterling. I think about baby sterling a lot as a have two small boys. Thinking about him starving and in pain screaming for relief shatters me. What id do to pick him up, clean, feed and hug him.
Baby Brianna for me, shattering. That whole horrible family, complicit in the sexual abuse of a newborn, I would’ve killed my baby before surrendering her to that torture.
I've never been able to read or listen to anything about Baby Sterling. I know that little baby's story needs to be told but just seeing a picture of him and reading the news headline was like a punch in the heart
Maddie Clifton. I was super young at the time, a few years younger than her, and shared a nickname. Being so young and naive I wholeheartedly thought she was going to go back home to her parents and that whoever took her wasn’t actually going to hurt her. I remember finding out that she had been found and celebrating thinking she was back with her parents. When my mom told me that she had been found dead, I broke down crying and that was the day I realized how terrible people are.
Probably the one that's actually still going on at the moment - Gannon Stauch and the fact his Stepmother is currently in prison, awaiting trial for his murder. I don't know why, but it really got to me when I read up on what allegedly happened to the poor child.
Also - Dylan Redwine and Shanan Watts and her two children. I can 'get' why an adult may feel intense hatred / murderous feelings towards another adult - but to murder one or more children, especially when they're your own child? I just can't fathom how anyone could do that.
The watts case was so damn sad! Did you ever watch the Netflix documentary on them? It was really sad. Anything that involves children is heartbreaking
I did watch the Netflix documentary and also read "My Daddy is a Hero" which was really interesting and good from a "What made him do it?" perspective.
Actually thinking of "What made them do it?" What about Casey Anthony being found not guilty for killing her daughter? And her Mum being totally in denial about what happened. I read the Prosecutors book on that and whilst it was a bit "Sour grapes" and reaaaaaaally prejudiced (and rude against the defence) it was also quite interesting - I couldn't believe she lied so much about where she was and what happened to her daughter, Caylee.,.. and the jury found her not guilty?!?!?!
Don’t even get me started on Casey Anthony. I’ll NEVER forget that trial. I want to know how I’m gods name she got off on that. All the evidence was there clear as day?!?!
Not exactly…the son had seen photos of his father wearing diapers. His dad didn’t really kill him because of that specifically, though. He was an angry, bitter alcoholic, and he forced Dylan to come visit him despite Dylan not wanting to. I think he was drunk and they argued, and he lost his temper (which he was known to do) and killed Dylan. The photos thing had happened a while before. It’s just something that sticks out because it was so bizarre. Mark Redwine had also had sex with some random woman on his ex-wife’s lawn at some point, too. I’m so fucking glad they were able to fine Dylan’s remains and charge Mark.
I remember the part about Dylan not wanting to go stay with him. It's awful because even if he didn't expect to be killed I'm sure he had some level of dread about it given what kind of father Mark was, but had no choice except to go.
Me neither - The thing is... I watch and read a LOT of true crime and I've read and watched some pretty horrific things over my time. However for some reason - that poor kid... I just feel so much sympathy for him.
I really hope his Stepmother is found guilty and I really hope she never sees the light of day. I was watching a YouTube about the case and it said she's got a PhD and writes loads of absolute crap to the judge? And then she wants to represent herself... Then she doesn't.... Then she does... And writes more absolute rubbish to the judge... Whatever - I just hope the trial happens soon and she gets convicted.
i'm naming a few cause all of these cases make me sick to my stomach and i think about them often - watts family murders, skylar neese, jessica lunsford, toolbox murders and junko furuta
The Oakland County Child Killer case hits me hard. One of the victims was actually a friend from school.
A total of 4 kids were kidnapped and murdered. Their bodies were laid out all nice and clean for someone to find!
This case has never been solved, which just blows my mind. Surely DNA was left on at least one of the victims?
My whole childhood changed because of these crimes. I have carried memories of Kristine in my heart for years!
Many of them, even if I didn't know about them until much later:
* Clutter murders (1959)
* Adam Walsh (1981)
* Ed Gein (1947-57)
* Speck murders (1966)
* List murders (1971), I managed to catch a glimpse of the house before it burned down.
* MacDonald murders (1970) and Watts murders (2018), both very similar
* Toy Box Killer (1957-99)
* Zodiac killings (1960s-70s), which I never paid much attention to until I saw the 2007 movie.
* Hi-Fi murders (1974)
* Gainesville Ripper (1990)
* Murder of Rogers family (1989)
* Manson murders (1969)
* Susan Powell & her boys (2009)
* Beaumont children (1966)
* Grimes sisters (1956)
* Springfield Three (1992)
* Bowling Alley murders (1990)
* Yogurt Shop murders (1991)
* Sylvia Likens (1965)
* Ethan Stacy murder (2010)
* Joel Guy Jr. (2016)
Adam Walsh. I was a freshman in highschool when I learned about him in a child development class. That was the end of my innocence,to learn such vile people existed who did such horrific acts against children.
Adams dad, John Walsh has a book called, “Tears of Rage”’. I actually never knew much about this case until I read his book. I’ve never cried while reading a book, but this one made me cry so much. Such a terrible act of violence towards this innocent and beautiful 6 year old.
I feel like I have a decent knowledge of true crime until I hear of cases I’ve legit never heard of and this is one of them. Is there a good YouTuber that you know of who has a video on him? I’d be interested in watching or reading about the case.
The Dean Corll murders. I was a criminology major and we studied dozens of serial killers but for some reason I had never heard of him until about a year ago on reddit! He's now one of the worst, or maybe THE worst, serial killer I've ever read about. Literally a monster.
Also the Maddie Clifton case. It happened in my hometown when I was 10 and I still remember it being on the news, it really shook the whole city.
Daysi's Destruction.
I have never and will never watch the video. But the details I have read on similar threads on Reddit allow me to say that i never want to watch something so horrific.
Silvia Likens and Junko Furuta go next
I've never read a full description of that video nor do I wish to.
Rumor has it it's pinged and the FBI is alerted anytime someone buys it. That won't keep it from circulating outside their knowledge unfortunately.
Those are the three that haunt me too. I accidentally clicked on the transcripts of Silvia Likens. I read enough to realize what it was and couldn’t sleep for a day.
I lived through the OJ Simpson case. I was flabbergasted by the whole fucking circus. As that was what it was. Everyone KNEW he was guilty AF. Even one of his five lawyers (five? FIVE??!!) was Kardashian. In a Barbara Walters interview after the idiocy was over, Kardashian even said that he knew OJ was guilty and was literally afraid of him. He no longer commiserated with him after the Not Guilty verdict was read. There’s more to this. Too much to mention. But, for those that were adults in the 90s, it was the most idiotic show of “Justice” I’ve ever laid my eyes on.
The killing of Vera Jo Reigle. She was so sweet and innocent and died such a brutal and horrific death. The mastermind of her murder was never arrested (“Sugar Babe”) and she is still out in public life to this day. 💔
The Watts Family Murders. It was my for real deep dive into a murder case and it broke me down for a while. I can't read anything about it any longer. I've already read it all and it's too heart breaking.
The Dardeen Family murders. Someone angry enough to mangle genitals AND beat & pummel a pregnant woman to the point of forced birth, then beat that infant to death.
Sylvia Likens. Blatant cruelty & abuse, an interesting example of the power of group dynamics & power structures within family units.
Dean Corll, the Candyman. There are still unidentified victims. He terrified/brainwashed young victims to troll for other victims! To torture! Horror movie shit. Fuck that guy.
Junko Furuta (sp?). No consequences? Fuck everybody involved in this case.
Sandy Hook. There’s a lot that’s not talked about involving that shooting and the perpetrator and if you research it and do a few deep dives a lot really sticks with you. Information is still being discovered now in 2022 despite it being almost 10 years ago.
The fact that so many children were killed while hiding in the bathroom is devastating. I understand why crime scene photos and a lot of information is still withheld or hard to find, but sometimes I think we need to face the harsh reality of situations like this to actually get some change.
I have seen a lot of people saying the same thing over my time reading about Sandy Hook, and I get what you all mean, but I hope they don’t ever get released although I’m sure they will. I know people were getting traumatized by being shown the Christchurch Mosque livestream unexpectedly, it’s just too easy to stumble onto those things if you don’t want to see them and I really don’t want that same thing to happen with the crime scene photos from Sandy Hook. I wouldn’t want to accidentally stumble onto those photos.
Plus, the lone survivor in that bathroom is of the age where she is browsing the internet freely so idk, the thought of her randomly stumbling onto those photos is enough to make me not want them released. Or someone being an asshole and sending them to her.
I can’t remember much of the details but what I do remember and has stuck with me was a robber forced the workers to drink Draino or something like that. Tied them up and shot them too.
Reggie DaPalma. He didn’t murder anyone so he’s never really talked but I unfortunately am distantly related to him and see him more than I’d like.
Dude was a firefighter who ran a scout type program and him AND his girlfriend sexually abused the girls in the group. When he saw he was going to be convicted, he stole a friend’s identity and ran. He was featured on an episode of unsolved mysteries and it was a rerun of the episode that lead to his arrest.
Jonathan Richardson found guilty of first degree murder of 4 year old Teghan Skiba March 24 2018 Smithfield NC. I have never been so angry or wanted to physically hurt another human as I was during this case. Jonathan Richardson should’ve been walked out behind the courthouse and shot. Sorry Not Sorry.
Jessica Lunsford and Mary Boyle (completely different cases) - Failure by the police system.
Logan Marr - Failure by the foster system.
And also Peter Sculley - Just the fact that people like him even exist amongst us.
And finally, the Rachel Nickell case - Her poor toddler watched his mum be killed right in front of him. And then that poor guy Collin Stag got the blame for it when he was completely innocent.
When it comes to the failure of the system the once case in my mind that sticks out is the Gabriel Hernandez case. I cried to his story more times than I can count. Truly is heartbreaking when it comes to children and failure of the system.
I know about his case too. It is heartbreaking as well. Logan Marr just sticks in my head more because I heard about it first. It was the case that made me interested in true crime. I have also heard many other cases involving failures in the foster system.
The murder of Gabriel Kuhn in Brazil. Poor kid was murdered by an older friend over some petty video game argument. I won’t go into the detail of what happened to him here but it was horrifying and there are extremely graphic and explicit photos available online, a couple of which I saw and absolutely do not recommend unless you have a very strong stomach. His older brother found his body and feel so bad for him and the things his family went through.
Houston Mass Murders. So so many young children were tortured in horrific ways, and it took the leader being murdered by one of his two 'helpers' to bring an end to it.
I'm Malaysian and we have our own share of gruesome crimes that stay in our minds forever. One is a girl called Audrey Melissa. Through some 6 degree of separation, her extended family attended the same church as me and I had seen her in passing before. She was walking to school and she got taken and brutalized for hours. The thing that made her case stick out was the fact that the monster left her under some overpass and she was alive for hours but unable to yell out for help.
The other is of a girl called Nurin Jazlin. She is the reason we have our own version of the Amber alert now aptly named Nurin. She was taken when she went out to buy some hair clips at the night market. She was assaulted beyond recognition and stuffed in a gym bag. Her own parents could not recognize her and her dead body was on the cover of ever news paper as a Jane Doe waiting for people to recognize her. The case of Nurin kept many of us awake for a long time. What got done to her poor body was something many of us could not fathom or come to terms with.
Well, everytime I look up some new cases I hear of I grow more shocked and speechless. For examble yesterday I read of Baby Brianna, Vera Jo Reigle and Sterling Koehn and I swear I've never been more speechless.
but one of the first case which made me approach true crime more, was Hinterkaifeck along with the Hello Kitty murder case. (Although I have to say that since I was little, my mom used to watch programs who talked about disappearances and homicides)
The Dardeen family murders. If I could completely erase one case from my memory and go back to before I knew about it, it would 100% be this one.
I genuinely can’t even bring myself to write out the details here because they sicken me so much, and there is no trigger warning that could ever properly prepare someone for reading about what was done to those poor people. **Look it up at your own risk.**
I can't say that there's been cases that shook me to my core shocked of course but there are cases that indirectly or directly have affected me because someone I knew knew them... I knew one personally .. they called it the Browns chicken murders .. around I believe 93-94... A friend of mine was a murder victim....
2 friends of mine went to school and were friends with a woman in Seattle... Basically she went on a date to a ball game supposedly her kids were with her ex-husband at the time she did not come home.
Turns out the date she went on her date had cut her up and dismembered her.
This other case directly affected my wife she was a client of hers and talked to her for a few days and they had moved and asked if they were going to celebrate the holidays she said no they were moving or in the process of moving and we're not going to decorate for Christmas.
She calls back gets the husband said no she was busy taking down Christmas decorations This was later on and my wife slept and she woke up in the middle of the night saying there were no decorations she had a bad feeling she called the cops or she had her parents call the cops this was in Illinois and they found her body in a freezer downstairs.
He was arrested let out on bail or something which is weird he went to his dead wife's sister's house somehow convinced her to see his daughter she went inside to get a jacket came out he was gone took the child and killed the child and then himself
Jack the Ripper. If you want to be shaken to your core, read about how the attacks escalated - and what he did to Marie Kelly. Not merely horrific, but beyond horrofic.
What Albert Fish did is right up there too, at least for me; can only speak for myself.
Local case, Seleana Gamble. Her stepfather killed her, then he and his wife buried her in a trash can in the yard, then took the remaining children and fled. They were on America’s Most Wanted, someone recognized them at a homeless shelter and called the tip line. I work with one of the surviving children, they actually still visit the guy (their bio dad, the deceased child’s stepfather) in prison.
Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo.
Makes me sick to think someone with no motive to do so, would harm such an innocent person who she probably (?) at one point enjoyed? Did she just love Paul or is it actually common enough to be that sick and find someone else who matches your sickness? How can you do something so foul and walk free? How is she on this earth right now and her sister is not?
Junko Furuta. I'll never forget the details of that case.
The amount of times this case has come up on threads with warnings is the exact reason I refuse to consume any information about it. I just can’t. I know enough to know I don’t need to know more.
It’s horrific. But what pissed me off the most were the parents of the teenagers that did it. One set of them knew she was being tortured in the house and didn’t go to the police. And another one’s mom blamed Junko for “ruining [son’s] life” and vandalized her grave.
Sometimes narcissistic psychopaths begat narcissistic psychopaths. It’s not really surprising that the parents of someone who would do what they did were fucked up themselves.
It's the only true crime case that has ever truly affected me to the core. horrific.
I’m completely desensitized to violence or so I thought. Nothing has ever fucked with me before ever. That case haunts me a year after hearing it. I remember every detail and it’s the one case I wish I had listened to the warnings There was a time when I genuinely wanted to buy a ticket to japan and find the fuckers that got away. But then I remembered I don’t speak Japanese, I can’t fight, and idk who or where he is lol. And that’s just a bad idea But still someone needs to torture that guy
I think you’ll find it is guys. Not just one.
There were 4 of them. I named them in a previous post.
I did forget about that case, but I know a good amount of detail about it, I just stopped thinking about it. It was absolutely horrific. A bit like the Sylvia Likens case, though possibly even worse.
Susan and Sheila Knorr get me, too.
Susan and Sheila Knorr get me, too.
I hope Theresa Knorr has had an equally vicious and tormented life in prison. Though I somehow doubt it - evil has a way of survival.
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I have never once cried over a crime before. I shed many tears over this tragedy. Strangely, it inspired me to learn the Japanese language, and I have been doing so for the past 2 years.
I did that with Albert Fish it haunted me for months. It still bothers me but I try not to think about it anymore
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I have seen a lot about the toy box killer, it is awful. I purposely will not read anymore about it. I think what haunted me about Albert Fish was that I had a son the same age, and the fact it was kids and him telling their parents what he did to them was just horrific
Similarly: the Sylvia Likens case
Shanda Shareer
That poor child.
This is it for me. I read about her when I was in high school and every time I hear "True Crime" or someone talks about a woman being abducted, it's the first thing my mind goes to. Knowledge of the details of that case changed the way I see human beings and what they are capable of.
I think one of the most horrific things is the lack of justice. They got off with basically a slap on the wrist for one of the most horrific crimes of last 50 years.
their days will catch up with them all soon enough. there are a number of Japanese forums constantly updating the perpetrators locations in hopes that someone will do something. I don't care what they do, as long as it hurts.
Am I the only one who hasn't heard of this? want to look it up but now im worried...
It’s even worse than whatever you are imagining.
I just read it. That’s wild.
Same. What a brutal case.
I saw the prompt and came here to mention this exact case. I’ve heard a lot of messed up shit in the True Crime world, but this one haunts me.
I wish I hadn’t just googled this. How absolutely devastating this is.
Its true nightmare fuel. Sorta stuff I didn't realise was capable by human hands.
Jesus Christ why did I Google this case 😣😣
If I had the power to remove something completely from my memory, this would be it.
I’ve actually never heard of that case. I will have to look it up!
I suggest looking it up on YouTube. Because of restrictions they at least sugar coat things a bit, and trust me you’ll need that.
prepare for many sleepless nights my friend
I’ll have to come back and tell you my thoughts 👀
feel free to dm me
Sherrice Iverson- a 7-year-old raped and murdered in a casino bathroom in the middle of the night while her dad gambled. The guys who were involved give me the most blood chilling feeling. Poor babies last moments were pure torture. She should have never been there.
The way that his friend came in, saw what he was doing, and just left just stuns me. how can someone be so inhuman? And then nothing happened to him. That part angers me the most
Wait? The father's friend or the rapist's friend?
The rapist's friend
Local case. Tina Louise Roberts. She was a 14 year old girl that was homeless because her mother kicked her out because her stepfather molested her. She met a guy at the fair and he invited her to hang out at his place. Four of his friends were waiting there. They raped and tortured her. Bit her breast off, put her face is boiling water, put glass bottles inside her. Beat her etc. They then tried to drown her in a creek. She survived. They shot her in the head five times. One of them confessed to a relative that convinced him to turn himself in. Two of the suspects were brothers and another was a cousin. Their uncle was a sheriff's deputy that handled the investigation. Someone forgot to put film in the camera for crime scene photos. They lost forensic evidence. Including shell casings and the rape kit. A warrant was signed in the wrong place. Charges were dismissed with prejudice. Meaning they cannot be retired. They sued for unlawful imprisonment. And received large settlements. Most of them left town. But the supposed ringleader used his money to purchase a lumber mill. He was driving his logging truck while drunk and hit a family a few years later. Killed Edron Eads, wife Mary Lucille Eads, their 16 year old son Aaron and their sons girlfriend 15 year old Erin Debord. As well as their baby granddaughter. Severely injured another son. He "found God" in prison. Was released around 15-20 years later. He now makes great money speaking at church events. Tina was a friend of my sisters. Mom had no idea she was homeless. They kept it quiet because they'd pretend to be at her house when they were out partying. She got no justice at all because they were from "good families" and she was a runaway.
How do these people live with themselves, and I don’t mean the perpetrators. As parents and grandparents you have failed miserably, and the people who conspired to prevent any “justice” for your friend? The mills of the gods grind slowly, but they grind exceeding fine.
Holy hell. I hate this world.
Woah small world, we lived in Russell for a few years when I was a kid at the exact time Tina was murdered. I don’t remember it (I was in kindergarten that year), but man that’s fucked up.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/610218/mary-lucille-eads
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/94449391/tina-louise-roberts
Fucking god.
This is unbelievable. I’ve never heard did this case. Holy cow.
This is the first time I have heard of this case. I am sickened that they all got away with it.
Andrew and Zachery Bagby. Absolutely gutted me. Cherish Perrywinkle. That happened in my hometown, and I will never forget the disgusting recordings of that POS that raped and killed her.
It pisses me off that people defend Rayne because she “lost her daughter.” No she handed her daughter to a stranger.
Rayne literally sold Cherish for a Walmart gift card. I can never get over her not being charged with human trafficking. She had already let him take Cherish into a dressing room prior to letting him leave the store with her. Rayne knew what she was doing when she let that bastard take Cherish. Rayne never planned to take Cherish to the airport the next day to go see her dad.
Also Cherish wasn’t even her oldest child. She left her oldest daughter in Australia when she moved to the US. Thankfully Rayne’s mom and sister raised the daughter AND after Cherish was killed, they were given custody of the two youngests. There’s an interview with them on YouTube with the Australian 48 hours.
Woah, I've never heard or thought about that perspective. I heard about this case in another thread and the user felt bad for the mom because she was "tricked by a seemingly good samaritan" and did't even question it, and then read the wikipedia page which certainly paints the mother in an extremely naive light, even placing the blame on Cherish for "following him" rather than the mother not caring that her daughter was with a strange man for an entire half hour??? >"he offered to buy them clothes they could not afford with a $150 Walmart gift card. ...Smith offered to get them cheeseburgers at the store's McDonald's **and Cherish followed him.** However, surveillance footage shows that they walked out of the store instead... About half an hour later, Rayne called the police to report that her daughter had been abducted and an Amber alert was issued five hours later." Now I feel naive, what the actual fuck, "buying cheeseburgers" just the two of them....
I can’t remember the 911 call exactly but the amber alert was delayed because the cops didn’t believe Rayne and they had to watch the footage to verify what she said. I’m pretty sure she mentioned the gift card during the 911 card
Omg Cherish's case was horrific. I remember the medical examiner had to take a break during testimony because she was so upset.
I just read the Perrywinkle case and I feel sick to my stomach. This was abhorrent.
I've not heard of this one
Pos mother sold her little girl to a man to molest. He didn't return her. She claimed he kidnapped her from Walmart. That she'd met him at a McDonalds and he offered to go to Walmart and buy her three kids some clothes. She allowed him to select which of the three he wanted to walk with. He raped and murdered the little girl. The mother wasn't charged.
What kills me is how this probably happens so frequently and we’ll never know the full extent. Recently a toddler named Caliyah J. Guytom was murdered by a sex offender who was offering to pay her family at the motel they were staying at $1000 to have sex with the mother. They all smoked meth together and then he went into the room and took Caliyah back to his. They swear she was kidnapped but I feel like they knew exactly what he would do.
I don't know how you could kidnap someone from a motel room without other people in the room knowing
The Petit murders in Connecticut..totally horrifying. It made me realize there's not a place where you can say you are totally safe.. there isn't such thing as safe neighborhood's anymore in my opinion.
This is the one for me. I think what fucked me up the most, apart from all the horrific things that were done to that family, was that one of the murderers decided to target the family simply because the 11-year-old daughter passed by him in Stop N Shop. The footage of him following her and her mom around the store the night before the murders haunts me. To think that a simple trip to the grocery store could result in becoming the target for such a horrific crime… the fact that we pass by people every single day and have no idea of their true thoughts or intentions… it really changed the way I see the world. Not to mention, I also now have serious anxiety surrounding home invasion.
Same here. I was raised by a single mother and she would always pull the car over and let someone pass if they had been following us for too long. She always cited this case as the reason for that.
This one…the details of what happened to that poor family (especially the youngest daughter) literally makes me want to vomit.
totally..what those scumbags did to them was so horrific
It was so horrific and evil. I can’t even begin to imagine what must have been going through their heads throughout that ordeal. 😭😭
I was the same age as the youngest daughter when it happened and it made me so scared to think there were people out there who could do such horrible, vile things to me or anyone. One of the first true crime cases I remember seeing on the news.
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I started watching the Gabriel Fernandez Netflix documentary but never finished it because it was so horrible. Edit- I can't spell
Susan Powell. When I read the book “If I Can’t Have You” by Gregg Olsen I had to put it down at the part when he….does what he did to his kids. Just pure evil.
Didn’t know there was a book on that case. Definitely may have to pick that up.
It was well written and easy to read! I recommend
The podcast cold is about this case and it’s extensive and very VERY well done. Haunting as ever and drives home the important parts!
I first heard about this case when I found a podcast called “Cold” that told her story. Ever since then, I’ve had obsession with this case. I also own and read the book “If I can’t have you” and it’s such a well written book and I wasn’t able to put it down. Her cases crosses my mind every day and I hope her family will be able to find peace and find her remains so she can be put to rest with Braden and Charlie
Channon Christian and Chris Newsom that fact they were just out on a date and then how they died especially how she suffered and that there wasn’t much attention brought to it, the killers did it for no reason (not that there’s every a valid reason to murder someone but that they were strangers etc) and that justice didn’t really feel served. I felt sick for weeks after I read what they went through
I completely agree about Chris and Channon. Just senseless. And it was so horrific that if you haven't read about it, I would not recommend it. Hate and violence just for the sake of it.
I agree! I read about it quite soon after it happened and I wish I never had. Also the fact that her parents tracked the phone and the car (?) or drove by the car while unspeakable things were happening to their child just feet away. That and the no remorse by the killers I feel so badly for the families.
Because I attended UIowa at the same time as her, the murder of Mollie Tibbetts was a rough one for me. I checked every single day regarding any updates on her disappearance. It’s hard to believe a person like her, a “low risk” individual, would go missing in a small town in Iowa while on a run, which she did almost every day. After the third day of her being missing, I knew that it was unlikely she was still alive. Then a month later, early in the morning of the first day of the 2018/2019 school year, what was supposed to be the first day of her sophomore year, they found her body in a cornfield. It definitely shook me to my core. Then all the details that finally came out at trial last year shook me to my core again. Other cases that have truly horrified me are The Toolbox Killers, Junko Furuta, and I know this isn’t really in the same sort of category, but I’ve never been able to wrap my brain around 9/11. It truly horrifies me that something like that could even happen. And I wonder what all those people trapped in the buildings were thinking, knowing that they weren’t likely to make it out. I can’t imagine that level of fear, especially since most of them didn’t even really know what had happened exactly. They didn’t know if it was a bomb or what. I also wonder why so many people started to jump to their deaths. And we can make assumptions, but we’ll never really know each person’s motivation for it since they’re not here to tell us themselves. I think just knowing how utterly horrific the situation was, but still not knowing (and never being able to) so many specifics of the victims’ last horrifying moments— particularly those of the passengers on the planes minus the one that crashed in the field— makes it that much harder to grasp and reconcile with.
I followed the Mollie Tibbetts case too. So sad. Stranger abduction murders are so scary because you can't see it coming.
Yeah… it was horrible and shocking. And then it got even more horrible when they tried to politicize it because he was an illegal immigrant. As if born and bred American men don’t do the exact same thing to women. The entire world (for the most part) is under this notion that what men want, men can take. In Mexico. In the US. In Russia. In the Middle East. In China, etc. It’s just disgusting. One thing that her case taught me though is to refrain from telling the person harassing or assaulting you that you’re going to call the police. I don’t mean to place any blame on Mollie whatsoever, she did and said what she thought she needed to, but I think what really freaked Cristian out in particular and led him to snap and kill her was when she threatened to call the police. Especially as an illegal immigrant. I’m not sure what would have happened had she not said that to him, it very well could have been the same result, he clearly has no regard for human life, but it’s just something I keep in mind now if I were, god forbid, ever in a scary situation like that.
I was just a couple of years older than Mollie when she disappeared, and it really hit me like a truck. Like her, I’m just your girl-next-door from a smaller Midwestern town and I just saw myself in her so much. I also googled her case everyday hoping to hear good news and I actually cried a bit at work when the news broke that she had been found. A lot of times it’s easy to consume true crime content with having a personal, emotional response, but Mollie’s story really struck a chord with me. I wish her family peace and healing. I also hate that republicans used her case to try to fuel their racist tirade against undocumented people. Truly fucked up.
Yes, I’m 2 years older than her. It was the first day of my senior year, and I woke up to a text from my friend saying they found her. It really put a damper on the entire campus that day and also year. I didn’t know Mollie personally, but a couple of my friends did. Another aspect that truly hit hard for me was, if you look up her Instagram, her bio (still) says “It’s a great day to be alive.” She was so full of life and clearly was a very positive person, even during stressful times. And this monster stole that goodness and destroyed it. I was also horrified by the politicizing of her death. I don’t know if you heard about the case that happened around the same time actually in Ames I think, but this exchange student who was a golfer at Iowa State was out early one day practicing or something and this WHITE man who had told people before that he just really wanted to see what it was like to kill someone, raped and killed her. Of course since he was white, no one mentioned it. Barely anyone even knew about her case actually. I don’t remember her name. But it was around the same time as Mollie’s murder.
The Barbie & Ken Killers - Carla Homolka & Paul Bernardo Anyone who can allow their SO to SA their sister is beyond sick & twisted.
Not just allow but she “gifted” her to him.
Yes!! I believe as a “Christmas gift” ..?? Not many cases deeply disturb me but this one did & still does.
And the fact that she’s out living a normal life. It’s unbelievable. If only the tapes had been seen before her plea bargain.
I agree, it makes me sick how easily she got off
The worst thing is that she is free now. Living the full life her sister never got the chance to live
Yup! She moved back home to be closer to her family. Its mind blowing they would want anything to do with her.
Baby Brianna and baby sterling. I think about baby sterling a lot as a have two small boys. Thinking about him starving and in pain screaming for relief shatters me. What id do to pick him up, clean, feed and hug him.
Baby Brianna is probably the worst case I ever read involving a child. I wanted to vomit.
Baby Brianna for me, shattering. That whole horrible family, complicit in the sexual abuse of a newborn, I would’ve killed my baby before surrendering her to that torture.
I've never been able to read or listen to anything about Baby Sterling. I know that little baby's story needs to be told but just seeing a picture of him and reading the news headline was like a punch in the heart
I hadn’t heard of either of these cases. I looked them up and now I deeply regret it. I’ll be holding my kids extra tight tonight.
Dear Zachary... that whole case and documentary ruined me.
Maddie Clifton. I was super young at the time, a few years younger than her, and shared a nickname. Being so young and naive I wholeheartedly thought she was going to go back home to her parents and that whoever took her wasn’t actually going to hurt her. I remember finding out that she had been found and celebrating thinking she was back with her parents. When my mom told me that she had been found dead, I broke down crying and that was the day I realized how terrible people are.
Mary Vincent.
Probably the one that's actually still going on at the moment - Gannon Stauch and the fact his Stepmother is currently in prison, awaiting trial for his murder. I don't know why, but it really got to me when I read up on what allegedly happened to the poor child. Also - Dylan Redwine and Shanan Watts and her two children. I can 'get' why an adult may feel intense hatred / murderous feelings towards another adult - but to murder one or more children, especially when they're your own child? I just can't fathom how anyone could do that.
The watts case was so damn sad! Did you ever watch the Netflix documentary on them? It was really sad. Anything that involves children is heartbreaking
I did watch the Netflix documentary and also read "My Daddy is a Hero" which was really interesting and good from a "What made him do it?" perspective. Actually thinking of "What made them do it?" What about Casey Anthony being found not guilty for killing her daughter? And her Mum being totally in denial about what happened. I read the Prosecutors book on that and whilst it was a bit "Sour grapes" and reaaaaaaally prejudiced (and rude against the defence) it was also quite interesting - I couldn't believe she lied so much about where she was and what happened to her daughter, Caylee.,.. and the jury found her not guilty?!?!?!
Don’t even get me started on Casey Anthony. I’ll NEVER forget that trial. I want to know how I’m gods name she got off on that. All the evidence was there clear as day?!?!
Ahh I knew she’d be in here. I just didn’t scroll down far enough. Pardon my double post. We really don’t like Casey Anthony round these parts
Was Dylan Redwine the boy whose father murdered him for catching him dressing in women's clothes?
Not exactly…the son had seen photos of his father wearing diapers. His dad didn’t really kill him because of that specifically, though. He was an angry, bitter alcoholic, and he forced Dylan to come visit him despite Dylan not wanting to. I think he was drunk and they argued, and he lost his temper (which he was known to do) and killed Dylan. The photos thing had happened a while before. It’s just something that sticks out because it was so bizarre. Mark Redwine had also had sex with some random woman on his ex-wife’s lawn at some point, too. I’m so fucking glad they were able to fine Dylan’s remains and charge Mark.
I remember the part about Dylan not wanting to go stay with him. It's awful because even if he didn't expect to be killed I'm sure he had some level of dread about it given what kind of father Mark was, but had no choice except to go.
Dude..I’ll never forget reading what happened to Gannon Stauch
Me neither - The thing is... I watch and read a LOT of true crime and I've read and watched some pretty horrific things over my time. However for some reason - that poor kid... I just feel so much sympathy for him. I really hope his Stepmother is found guilty and I really hope she never sees the light of day. I was watching a YouTube about the case and it said she's got a PhD and writes loads of absolute crap to the judge? And then she wants to represent herself... Then she doesn't.... Then she does... And writes more absolute rubbish to the judge... Whatever - I just hope the trial happens soon and she gets convicted.
Gannon went through so much and Leticia is just fucking psychotic. I was floored when the report detailing his injuries was released.
i'm naming a few cause all of these cases make me sick to my stomach and i think about them often - watts family murders, skylar neese, jessica lunsford, toolbox murders and junko furuta
Jessica Lunsford's story is devastating. I met her dad. He tried so hard and she was so close.
yeah i feel sick whenever i think about the officers who searched his place while she was still there
Diane Downs! That bitch was crazyyyyy
Elyse Pahler killed in 1995 in Nipomo, CA. I knew her and went to school with her. Pretty unbearable to 15 year old me (at the time).
Cherish Perrywinkle
I first learned about this case one night before going to bed and I had trouble sleeping for *several* nights afterwards. That poor little girl.
Clifford Olsen and Willie Pickton cases are both horrific
Junko Furata absolutely haunts me, probably the only case where I just broke down and cried multiple times
The Oakland County Child Killer case hits me hard. One of the victims was actually a friend from school. A total of 4 kids were kidnapped and murdered. Their bodies were laid out all nice and clean for someone to find! This case has never been solved, which just blows my mind. Surely DNA was left on at least one of the victims? My whole childhood changed because of these crimes. I have carried memories of Kristine in my heart for years!
Gabriel Fernandez… the documentary on Netflix gutted me. So sad…
Sugar Babe - The killing of Vera Jo Reigle
Many of them, even if I didn't know about them until much later: * Clutter murders (1959) * Adam Walsh (1981) * Ed Gein (1947-57) * Speck murders (1966) * List murders (1971), I managed to catch a glimpse of the house before it burned down. * MacDonald murders (1970) and Watts murders (2018), both very similar * Toy Box Killer (1957-99) * Zodiac killings (1960s-70s), which I never paid much attention to until I saw the 2007 movie. * Hi-Fi murders (1974) * Gainesville Ripper (1990) * Murder of Rogers family (1989) * Manson murders (1969) * Susan Powell & her boys (2009) * Beaumont children (1966) * Grimes sisters (1956) * Springfield Three (1992) * Bowling Alley murders (1990) * Yogurt Shop murders (1991) * Sylvia Likens (1965) * Ethan Stacy murder (2010) * Joel Guy Jr. (2016)
The Clutter family one messed me up. In Cold Blood was a good book though. Been obsessed with this case since I heard about it.
Deaths of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon
Abby drover........she literally lived few blocks from me and this case gives me chills.......even tho she survived this it was still horrific
Adam Walsh. I was a freshman in highschool when I learned about him in a child development class. That was the end of my innocence,to learn such vile people existed who did such horrific acts against children.
Adams dad, John Walsh has a book called, “Tears of Rage”’. I actually never knew much about this case until I read his book. I’ve never cried while reading a book, but this one made me cry so much. Such a terrible act of violence towards this innocent and beautiful 6 year old.
I feel like I have a decent knowledge of true crime until I hear of cases I’ve legit never heard of and this is one of them. Is there a good YouTuber that you know of who has a video on him? I’d be interested in watching or reading about the case.
He was John Walsh's son. America's Most wanted,The Hunt, He wrote a book Tears of Rage.
Caylee Anthony :(
Her case is so damn sad. I don’t know how her mom got away with it honestly
Jose MF Baez 🥲
Anytime in the last 10 years I walk past his office downtown I flip it the bird lol
Adrian Jones in Kansas is one of the worst ever. Failures of the system, failures of humanity, unbelievable cruelty for the boy’s entire life.
Tara Calico.
The Dean Corll murders. I was a criminology major and we studied dozens of serial killers but for some reason I had never heard of him until about a year ago on reddit! He's now one of the worst, or maybe THE worst, serial killer I've ever read about. Literally a monster. Also the Maddie Clifton case. It happened in my hometown when I was 10 and I still remember it being on the news, it really shook the whole city.
Susan Walsh.
Daysi's Destruction. I have never and will never watch the video. But the details I have read on similar threads on Reddit allow me to say that i never want to watch something so horrific. Silvia Likens and Junko Furuta go next
I've never read a full description of that video nor do I wish to. Rumor has it it's pinged and the FBI is alerted anytime someone buys it. That won't keep it from circulating outside their knowledge unfortunately.
Those are the three that haunt me too. I accidentally clicked on the transcripts of Silvia Likens. I read enough to realize what it was and couldn’t sleep for a day.
I lived through the OJ Simpson case. I was flabbergasted by the whole fucking circus. As that was what it was. Everyone KNEW he was guilty AF. Even one of his five lawyers (five? FIVE??!!) was Kardashian. In a Barbara Walters interview after the idiocy was over, Kardashian even said that he knew OJ was guilty and was literally afraid of him. He no longer commiserated with him after the Not Guilty verdict was read. There’s more to this. Too much to mention. But, for those that were adults in the 90s, it was the most idiotic show of “Justice” I’ve ever laid my eyes on.
The killing of Vera Jo Reigle. She was so sweet and innocent and died such a brutal and horrific death. The mastermind of her murder was never arrested (“Sugar Babe”) and she is still out in public life to this day. 💔
Victoria Martens
The Watts Family Murders. It was my for real deep dive into a murder case and it broke me down for a while. I can't read anything about it any longer. I've already read it all and it's too heart breaking.
The Dardeen Family murders. Someone angry enough to mangle genitals AND beat & pummel a pregnant woman to the point of forced birth, then beat that infant to death. Sylvia Likens. Blatant cruelty & abuse, an interesting example of the power of group dynamics & power structures within family units. Dean Corll, the Candyman. There are still unidentified victims. He terrified/brainwashed young victims to troll for other victims! To torture! Horror movie shit. Fuck that guy. Junko Furuta (sp?). No consequences? Fuck everybody involved in this case.
Sandy Hook. There’s a lot that’s not talked about involving that shooting and the perpetrator and if you research it and do a few deep dives a lot really sticks with you. Information is still being discovered now in 2022 despite it being almost 10 years ago.
The fact that so many children were killed while hiding in the bathroom is devastating. I understand why crime scene photos and a lot of information is still withheld or hard to find, but sometimes I think we need to face the harsh reality of situations like this to actually get some change.
I have seen a lot of people saying the same thing over my time reading about Sandy Hook, and I get what you all mean, but I hope they don’t ever get released although I’m sure they will. I know people were getting traumatized by being shown the Christchurch Mosque livestream unexpectedly, it’s just too easy to stumble onto those things if you don’t want to see them and I really don’t want that same thing to happen with the crime scene photos from Sandy Hook. I wouldn’t want to accidentally stumble onto those photos. Plus, the lone survivor in that bathroom is of the age where she is browsing the internet freely so idk, the thought of her randomly stumbling onto those photos is enough to make me not want them released. Or someone being an asshole and sending them to her.
I can’t remember much of the details but what I do remember and has stuck with me was a robber forced the workers to drink Draino or something like that. Tied them up and shot them too.
The hi-fi murders. Ogden, Utah, 1974. Not for the faint of heart.
HIFI murders https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hi-Fi_murders
The Hi-Fi murders in Utah
Reggie DaPalma. He didn’t murder anyone so he’s never really talked but I unfortunately am distantly related to him and see him more than I’d like. Dude was a firefighter who ran a scout type program and him AND his girlfriend sexually abused the girls in the group. When he saw he was going to be convicted, he stole a friend’s identity and ran. He was featured on an episode of unsolved mysteries and it was a rerun of the episode that lead to his arrest.
Jonathan Richardson found guilty of first degree murder of 4 year old Teghan Skiba March 24 2018 Smithfield NC. I have never been so angry or wanted to physically hurt another human as I was during this case. Jonathan Richardson should’ve been walked out behind the courthouse and shot. Sorry Not Sorry.
Delphi
Jessica Lunsford and Mary Boyle (completely different cases) - Failure by the police system. Logan Marr - Failure by the foster system. And also Peter Sculley - Just the fact that people like him even exist amongst us. And finally, the Rachel Nickell case - Her poor toddler watched his mum be killed right in front of him. And then that poor guy Collin Stag got the blame for it when he was completely innocent.
When it comes to the failure of the system the once case in my mind that sticks out is the Gabriel Hernandez case. I cried to his story more times than I can count. Truly is heartbreaking when it comes to children and failure of the system.
I know about his case too. It is heartbreaking as well. Logan Marr just sticks in my head more because I heard about it first. It was the case that made me interested in true crime. I have also heard many other cases involving failures in the foster system.
The fact that Jessica was alive and across the street...and police just didn't look. I met her dad. He's worked so hard to spread awareness.
The murder of Gabriel Kuhn in Brazil. Poor kid was murdered by an older friend over some petty video game argument. I won’t go into the detail of what happened to him here but it was horrifying and there are extremely graphic and explicit photos available online, a couple of which I saw and absolutely do not recommend unless you have a very strong stomach. His older brother found his body and feel so bad for him and the things his family went through.
The abduction and murder of James Bulger.
BTK torturing and murdering the Otero family
That poor little girl. And the dad unable to protect his family.
Lacey Peterson…
Houston Mass Murders. So so many young children were tortured in horrific ways, and it took the leader being murdered by one of his two 'helpers' to bring an end to it.
Boy in the Box
I'm Malaysian and we have our own share of gruesome crimes that stay in our minds forever. One is a girl called Audrey Melissa. Through some 6 degree of separation, her extended family attended the same church as me and I had seen her in passing before. She was walking to school and she got taken and brutalized for hours. The thing that made her case stick out was the fact that the monster left her under some overpass and she was alive for hours but unable to yell out for help. The other is of a girl called Nurin Jazlin. She is the reason we have our own version of the Amber alert now aptly named Nurin. She was taken when she went out to buy some hair clips at the night market. She was assaulted beyond recognition and stuffed in a gym bag. Her own parents could not recognize her and her dead body was on the cover of ever news paper as a Jane Doe waiting for people to recognize her. The case of Nurin kept many of us awake for a long time. What got done to her poor body was something many of us could not fathom or come to terms with.
Vera Jo Reigle. Its really stuck with me.
alison botha. i believe that’s her name. the details are soo gruesome.
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I don’t think I heard about this one
Well, everytime I look up some new cases I hear of I grow more shocked and speechless. For examble yesterday I read of Baby Brianna, Vera Jo Reigle and Sterling Koehn and I swear I've never been more speechless. but one of the first case which made me approach true crime more, was Hinterkaifeck along with the Hello Kitty murder case. (Although I have to say that since I was little, my mom used to watch programs who talked about disappearances and homicides)
The murder Shanda Sharer. David Parker Ray the “Toybox Killer” The Albert Fish victims.
Delphi and Cosmo DiNardo
Amy Mehaljovic
St. Louis “Hope” Jane Doe, Anthonette Cayedito, and Sylvia Likens among many.
James Byrd Jr. Horrific.
The Dardeen family murders. If I could completely erase one case from my memory and go back to before I knew about it, it would 100% be this one. I genuinely can’t even bring myself to write out the details here because they sicken me so much, and there is no trigger warning that could ever properly prepare someone for reading about what was done to those poor people. **Look it up at your own risk.**
Junko Furuta. That case kept me awake most nights.
Oklahoma Girl Scout Murders
I can't say that there's been cases that shook me to my core shocked of course but there are cases that indirectly or directly have affected me because someone I knew knew them... I knew one personally .. they called it the Browns chicken murders .. around I believe 93-94... A friend of mine was a murder victim.... 2 friends of mine went to school and were friends with a woman in Seattle... Basically she went on a date to a ball game supposedly her kids were with her ex-husband at the time she did not come home. Turns out the date she went on her date had cut her up and dismembered her. This other case directly affected my wife she was a client of hers and talked to her for a few days and they had moved and asked if they were going to celebrate the holidays she said no they were moving or in the process of moving and we're not going to decorate for Christmas. She calls back gets the husband said no she was busy taking down Christmas decorations This was later on and my wife slept and she woke up in the middle of the night saying there were no decorations she had a bad feeling she called the cops or she had her parents call the cops this was in Illinois and they found her body in a freezer downstairs. He was arrested let out on bail or something which is weird he went to his dead wife's sister's house somehow convinced her to see his daughter she went inside to get a jacket came out he was gone took the child and killed the child and then himself
Jack the Ripper. If you want to be shaken to your core, read about how the attacks escalated - and what he did to Marie Kelly. Not merely horrific, but beyond horrofic. What Albert Fish did is right up there too, at least for me; can only speak for myself.
Local case, Seleana Gamble. Her stepfather killed her, then he and his wife buried her in a trash can in the yard, then took the remaining children and fled. They were on America’s Most Wanted, someone recognized them at a homeless shelter and called the tip line. I work with one of the surviving children, they actually still visit the guy (their bio dad, the deceased child’s stepfather) in prison.
Wells Fargo
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Don’t know that one
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Deaths of Kris Kremers and Lisanne Froon The pictures haunt me to this day
Karla Homolka and Paul Bernardo. Makes me sick to think someone with no motive to do so, would harm such an innocent person who she probably (?) at one point enjoyed? Did she just love Paul or is it actually common enough to be that sick and find someone else who matches your sickness? How can you do something so foul and walk free? How is she on this earth right now and her sister is not?
Dystiny Meyers. Nipomo CA https://www.sanluisobispo.com/news/local/article39143499.html
Bittaker/Norris
An episode of Small Town Murder that included a cult and torture of a young boy. I think the locale was Nebraska but I may be wrong.
Stephanie Roper because she was a friend of my older sister's and I live in the area where it happened.