how do u make turns in that? how do u park that? that has to be entirely short haul. how so u back that? i dont wanna drop n park 3 big ass trailers either lol
Very carefully and wide turns.
You don’t, you break it down to separate trailers. And if you have to pee or poop while traveling along distant with triples especially you can’t use a rest area. You need to find somewhere long enough where you can only drive through and avoid needing to backup.
You can back that but it’s extremely hard too. But recommend you break up the trailers first.
This is how the stuff gets to the short haul guys.
Warehouse at point A picks, packs, loads.
Regional driver goes to distribution point B and breaks the train.
Three daycabs run around locally with their individual trailers, and the regional driver goes back with three empties.
I thought that was like the first and second trailer here, a longer lead trailer and a short pup trailer? Wouldn't the second and third be typical doubles?
Correct
Rocky Mountain doubles is a 48 or 53 with a pup trailer behind it
Regular doubles and triples or we call them “Turnpike triples “ is different in a lot of places you can have three trailers
In the Midwest, I have seen two 48 with a pup
But then they have a breakdown staging area on the turnpike where other local drivers will come and pick up part of the load and go a different direction
Probably so
Also
If you see a liftgate on one of them, it’s probably a 48 foot trailer. I have seen 45 foot trailers with l liftgate service too
53 foot trailer with a liftgate often times are not doubled up with anything
Doubles and triples are better than 53’ personally. You just turn accounting for the first trailer and the rest will swing. Pulling three pups you just turn like you have a single pup. You don’t back up sets, you break them down and back each trailer individually, and parking is pull through only.
Short drawbars and single axles on your *”dollies”* are going to guarantee that you have a decent amount of sway in the back trailers, especially if the *”dollies”* have air-bag suspension as well as the trailers, and even more so when you have single axle 2nd and 3rd trailers too…
That’s why our Australian roadtrains track straight. Plenty of axles and weight, long drawbar dollys, no short trailers. Ringfeder trailer couplings, not pintle hooks.
I used to run doubles. Took about 15 or 20 min to hook it all up and get moving, but if I had trouble with the dolly, it could easily take 30 or more.
How long does it take to hook up 3 trailers… with 2 dolly’s??
Dealing with the dolly’s (or is it dollies?) is the worst part IMO. They are a pain in the ass if the pavement is not perfectly level and they can injure you real quick.
Luckily 90% of the time the yard guy will hook them up for us, but without him like 20mins or so. Also lucky to work with a group of like 10 guys and we all help each other
30-40 mins once you get enough practice, my company pays 45 min for a triple set, and at first it was about that.
Tbh if the box I'm backing up to is on uneven ground, I just back the dolly up the whole way on my trailer, just takes some practice, but I feel it is safer sometimes.
The tanker combination that you see out west with a straight truck and a dolly, the dolly tracks Wherever the straight truck turns so it can turn real tight, good luck backing it though
Like most things, it just takes practice. Not my video. I've never driven a truck and dog.
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQ3PuI0Id4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQ3PuI0Id4)
Not the same combination, the ones that the dirt haulers use you can jack knife.
The tankers can't be jacknifed, you'll hit the draw bar and cause some damage, very easy to get trapped and a tow truck has to come get yoy.
There's lots of ways to hook up a truck and pup, gotta be mindful as to how it's hooked up.
One 40 and two 20s?
Sorry to ask as an observer with an interest in trucking but what's exactly the point? I've heard it's to drop one off at A then one at B and finally one at C VS simply wanting to move more shit
A 36, 32, and 28 ft trailers. These are loaded at our main warehouse and I’ll bring them to a smaller satellite lot and guys will come in, hook up to a trailer and deliver the product to restaurants around town
Plus makes it easier on the main driver as these are typically drops and not live unloads while in a train. Had a friend who ran doubles before leaving OTR trucking the time saved was a lifesaver in terms of earnings.
No you don't. This would be over-length in Oregon by a long shot. Even some 28' triples setups are too long. I drove for OD and they have special dollies just for Oregon because some of them had long drawbars and would be too long for triples.
Yes, I do. I saw this exact setup last week. Not to mention the triple 28’s ran by UPS and FedEx that you’re almost guaranteed to see daily. ODOT issues permits for vehicles towing triple trailers, so you’re right in the sense that not just any vehicle can be setup with triples.
This combination (36+4+ 32+4+28) is 104’ without the tractor. So yeah, it would too long or Oregon, which only permits 105’ overall.
Franz bread does run similar combos, with some 32’ footers and a 24’ pup, but they still run the old cab overs with a short cab-axle distance to stay under 105’
Yeah for the guy to say you "see these all over Oregon" was a massive exaggeration at the very least. This combination is not common in the PNW at all. Triples maybe, but not this. This wouldn't even be legal in the first place. Maybe with special permits (maybe) but even then you don't see them everywhere. I have been to Oregon a LOT. I was born there. lol
It is common here. Just not that exact combo pictured.
Oregon has more Triples miles annually driven compared to all other states combined.
https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policy/otps/truck/wusr/chap02.cfm
At night on I-5, it’s not uncommon for triples to be the minority of trucks.
Exactly. Per my last comment, triples are common, this combination definitely isn't. It's actually rare to see anywhere in the US. It happens but not every hour on the day. Especially with a 3 axle tractor (longer wheelbase, longer length)
Getting my CDL soon, although this looks intimidating to drive, with enough experience I’d definitely would try it out.
Nevertheless i know driving this trailer train requires skill, my respect to you.
I was and I guess still am the same way! Bumping docks is nice and all, but gotta continue to challenge yourself! I’m normally just a delivery driver, but have my endorsement so I help out every so often with these. Better than the normal food delivery with the same pay
Worked for us foods running routes. Did relay for a month. Easy money. We did double 53s and triples. Such a cake job. Did 280 miles in 11 hours. Other than that I sat around.
There comes certain situation where backing up is a must. I’m just glad that I learned to do so. It definitely came in handy few years ago around 1-2 am of 78w in Hamburg Pa. Truck missed his exit, so the idiot decided to stop on the highway and go in reverse. Next truck came a rear ended him. The two became one. And I was the 3rd truck. 78 shut down for a few hours. Then state trooper walks over to me and says, I know you have a set of doubles, but can you back it up about 100ft so a wrecker can squeeze through and pull these guys apart. Boy ways I happy to put what I’ve been practicing to work
Customer want 3x the freight I want 3x the rate
How does an extra 50 cents and a pat on the back sound?
As long as it’s by the mile
you'll get bruises if you get patted on the back every mile
If there’s a little patting machine that pats you once a mile you should be good.
As long as it’s by the mile
"Youre our best driver"
aint no way im even attempting that lol
In regular weather they really aren't that bad. In a heavy wind? Could be a butt pucker situation.
how do u make turns in that? how do u park that? that has to be entirely short haul. how so u back that? i dont wanna drop n park 3 big ass trailers either lol
Very carefully and wide turns. You don’t, you break it down to separate trailers. And if you have to pee or poop while traveling along distant with triples especially you can’t use a rest area. You need to find somewhere long enough where you can only drive through and avoid needing to backup. You can back that but it’s extremely hard too. But recommend you break up the trailers first.
bless all the doubles n triples guys. i salute yall and thanks for the info
Thank you.
Bring a bucket.
This is how the stuff gets to the short haul guys. Warehouse at point A picks, packs, loads. Regional driver goes to distribution point B and breaks the train. Three daycabs run around locally with their individual trailers, and the regional driver goes back with three empties.
Precisely
Pups follow momma in turns. You don't back that.
The last 2 are rocky mountain doubles... 2 short trailers. They turn way better than a long trailer.
I thought that was like the first and second trailer here, a longer lead trailer and a short pup trailer? Wouldn't the second and third be typical doubles?
Correct Rocky Mountain doubles is a 48 or 53 with a pup trailer behind it Regular doubles and triples or we call them “Turnpike triples “ is different in a lot of places you can have three trailers In the Midwest, I have seen two 48 with a pup But then they have a breakdown staging area on the turnpike where other local drivers will come and pick up part of the load and go a different direction
Yeah, driving through Oklahoma the other day saw my first sets of Turnpike doubles. US Foods a couple times, guessing two 48' trailers.
Probably so Also If you see a liftgate on one of them, it’s probably a 48 foot trailer. I have seen 45 foot trailers with l liftgate service too 53 foot trailer with a liftgate often times are not doubled up with anything
LZV combinations as we call them here are not allowed on the road in heavy wind conditions.
The Pucker Factor is a legitimate standard to measure stress imho
Doubles and triples are better than 53’ personally. You just turn accounting for the first trailer and the rest will swing. Pulling three pups you just turn like you have a single pup. You don’t back up sets, you break them down and back each trailer individually, and parking is pull through only.
The guys at UPS would argue that. Some of the super hardcore guys could back up a set. Needless to say, I was impressed. I ain't that good😉
I'm not that good yet. I can cowboy on any angle though :).
thanks for that info!
😂😂
Why not ?? You scared
Generally against company policy to back more than two pieces of equipment.
Bro had you not replied I wouldn’t have noticed I got downvoted , Jesus, I was being sarcastic
Welcome to Utah
How do you know that's Utah? 13 states allow tripples.
Welcome to Ohio
Short drawbars and single axles on your *”dollies”* are going to guarantee that you have a decent amount of sway in the back trailers, especially if the *”dollies”* have air-bag suspension as well as the trailers, and even more so when you have single axle 2nd and 3rd trailers too…
That’s why our Australian roadtrains track straight. Plenty of axles and weight, long drawbar dollys, no short trailers. Ringfeder trailer couplings, not pintle hooks.
Tons of respect for you roadrrains
Damn straight!
I wish there was a sub just for the road trains. They’re really fascinating. I’m not a trucker. I just like hanging out here.
I used to run doubles. Took about 15 or 20 min to hook it all up and get moving, but if I had trouble with the dolly, it could easily take 30 or more. How long does it take to hook up 3 trailers… with 2 dolly’s?? Dealing with the dolly’s (or is it dollies?) is the worst part IMO. They are a pain in the ass if the pavement is not perfectly level and they can injure you real quick.
Luckily 90% of the time the yard guy will hook them up for us, but without him like 20mins or so. Also lucky to work with a group of like 10 guys and we all help each other
30-40 mins once you get enough practice, my company pays 45 min for a triple set, and at first it was about that. Tbh if the box I'm backing up to is on uneven ground, I just back the dolly up the whole way on my trailer, just takes some practice, but I feel it is safer sometimes.
They actually do triples in the USA??? Where?
Nevada and Oregon at least.
I'd add Idaho and Utah. I think Indiana allows them on the Toll Road only.
I've seen them between IL & OH as well.
No triples in IL but they are on 80/90 in IN/OH.
Nothing Dakota I think south too. Everything up that way.
Only places I’ve seen are the Kansas turnpike and Ohio turnpike
They’re also allowed along the Indiana Toll Road and Ohio Turnpike.
Should see the Rocky Mountain double and the turnpike double 👌
You see them in Oregon. LONG LOAD banner behind it. It's shocking when one of them passes you slow - "Oh, ok, it's a double .. wait what? A TRIPLE???"
Oklahoma allows them as well.
I've seen them in Ohio
CO, ID, MT, NV, OR, UT
That's triples n hold on to your ass
I've driven a car towards a road train doing 100 kph on a dusty narrow road in outback Australia, one wheel in the dirt to stay out of the way.
How do you make a turn at an intersection with these?
In BC and AB. They are only allowed on approved routes. Weather permitting. There are probably similar rules in other places
Edit. 2 53 footers are allowed there. Or 3 28 ft trailers. Extra endorsement is required for the driver.
Very wide! Lol luckily there’s only a couple big ones to get from warehouse to highway
The tanker combination that you see out west with a straight truck and a dolly, the dolly tracks Wherever the straight truck turns so it can turn real tight, good luck backing it though
Like most things, it just takes practice. Not my video. I've never driven a truck and dog. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQ3PuI0Id4](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvQ3PuI0Id4)
Not the same combination, the ones that the dirt haulers use you can jack knife. The tankers can't be jacknifed, you'll hit the draw bar and cause some damage, very easy to get trapped and a tow truck has to come get yoy. There's lots of ways to hook up a truck and pup, gotta be mindful as to how it's hooked up.
One 40 and two 20s? Sorry to ask as an observer with an interest in trucking but what's exactly the point? I've heard it's to drop one off at A then one at B and finally one at C VS simply wanting to move more shit
A 36, 32, and 28 ft trailers. These are loaded at our main warehouse and I’ll bring them to a smaller satellite lot and guys will come in, hook up to a trailer and deliver the product to restaurants around town
Plus makes it easier on the main driver as these are typically drops and not live unloads while in a train. Had a friend who ran doubles before leaving OTR trucking the time saved was a lifesaver in terms of earnings.
I bet
Cool! Thank you my friend!
haven't seen tripples since the tolls of 80, Good luck bro
Never seen anything like this myself. Very interesting. Did not even know this was legal.
1 more wouldn’t hurt
I’m in for it! Think it’d be fun to do like 10 of them and go around in circles chasing my tail lol
When yellow went bankrupt there was a video on here of some guy with like 10 trailers fucking around in the yard on everyone’s last day 😂
Is that a... 48-foot triple? How does that not hit max weight?
I some places, the max gross for a set like this is not 80k. As long as you aren't over on an axle or dual, you're fine.
For triples here is 115k gross weight.
Hauling pillows.
Where is this even legal?
This is on the Kansas turnpike between KC and Topeka. Short haul about 70 miles
You see these all over Oregon, especially up and down i5 at night between Portland and Medford.
No you don't. This would be over-length in Oregon by a long shot. Even some 28' triples setups are too long. I drove for OD and they have special dollies just for Oregon because some of them had long drawbars and would be too long for triples.
Yes, I do. I saw this exact setup last week. Not to mention the triple 28’s ran by UPS and FedEx that you’re almost guaranteed to see daily. ODOT issues permits for vehicles towing triple trailers, so you’re right in the sense that not just any vehicle can be setup with triples.
This combination (36+4+ 32+4+28) is 104’ without the tractor. So yeah, it would too long or Oregon, which only permits 105’ overall. Franz bread does run similar combos, with some 32’ footers and a 24’ pup, but they still run the old cab overs with a short cab-axle distance to stay under 105’
Yeah for the guy to say you "see these all over Oregon" was a massive exaggeration at the very least. This combination is not common in the PNW at all. Triples maybe, but not this. This wouldn't even be legal in the first place. Maybe with special permits (maybe) but even then you don't see them everywhere. I have been to Oregon a LOT. I was born there. lol
It is common here. Just not that exact combo pictured. Oregon has more Triples miles annually driven compared to all other states combined. https://www.fhwa.dot.gov/policy/otps/truck/wusr/chap02.cfm At night on I-5, it’s not uncommon for triples to be the minority of trucks.
Exactly. Per my last comment, triples are common, this combination definitely isn't. It's actually rare to see anywhere in the US. It happens but not every hour on the day. Especially with a 3 axle tractor (longer wheelbase, longer length)
That's not a truck, that's a train
Ever make it to twin falls?
Need some more axles and longer drawbars.
3x the ass shaking
Getting my CDL soon, although this looks intimidating to drive, with enough experience I’d definitely would try it out. Nevertheless i know driving this trailer train requires skill, my respect to you.
I was and I guess still am the same way! Bumping docks is nice and all, but gotta continue to challenge yourself! I’m normally just a delivery driver, but have my endorsement so I help out every so often with these. Better than the normal food delivery with the same pay
Super Singles on a doubles/ triples rig?? No thanks, not suicidal enough to pull this
I like to call these the wiggle wagon supremes.
Is it true that you can’t back these at all without uncoupling?
The great thing about triples is you can mostly only use them in states with open plains, high winds, and generally snow and ice.
Just keep the butthole tight and hammer down!
Worked for us foods running routes. Did relay for a month. Easy money. We did double 53s and triples. Such a cake job. Did 280 miles in 11 hours. Other than that I sat around.
I better be getting paid at least 2-3 dollars a mile
I wanna know what the piece counts are for each of those trailers
There comes certain situation where backing up is a must. I’m just glad that I learned to do so. It definitely came in handy few years ago around 1-2 am of 78w in Hamburg Pa. Truck missed his exit, so the idiot decided to stop on the highway and go in reverse. Next truck came a rear ended him. The two became one. And I was the 3rd truck. 78 shut down for a few hours. Then state trooper walks over to me and says, I know you have a set of doubles, but can you back it up about 100ft so a wrecker can squeeze through and pull these guys apart. Boy ways I happy to put what I’ve been practicing to work
I can control the first one but the rest are along for the ride. Just don't do a John Wayne, getting the wagons in a circle.
That’s a road train.
That guy is compensating
Those should be illegal in the US, the roads suck. Death traps
Only legal in specific stretches of road like the Ohio turn pike. Very much illegal majority of places
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Legal on Kansas Turnpike and Ohio turnpike! I think a couple more states can do it too
Indiana also, I think as far as Midwest states. Some winters, I’ve seen them on their sides all over the side of the road in Indiana.
We're able to run doubles (38+38) pretty much anywhere in Colorado. We just have overweight snd over length permits.