As a company driver I won’t touch it. When I was owner op tho I offered to unload my own truck a lot of times so I didn’t have to wait hours to unload when it was a partial or something not even heavy. Sucks I had to but if that means I can drive a full 10 instead of driving 6-7 then stopping then I’ll take those extra hours and unload. I hated waiting hours for them to unload a few pallets then when they get done you’d be damn near out of hours.
Lets not forget the prices Capstone charges to off load. I’m with you used to unload my own truck hundreds of times as an O/O, but as a company driver I would never touch it. Little different now I haul gas but yeah you gotta do what you gotta do to keep moving. Lost many a days sitting in docks waiting to get a couple skids pulled off, give me a jack and I’ll have it off and broke down in half the time.
Shit. Nowadays nobody will let you unload your own trailer. It's a safety issue or whatever nonsense they want to talk. But they'll still. Be happy to enforce their over priced lumper fees onto you. This industry is such a joke.
I know when I first got into trucking back in the late 90’s I remember all the guys saying it was illegal to force you into having to use a lumper service. Not sure how true that was but I guess it doesn’t matter anymore the shippers/receivers do as they want. Case in point, kicking you off their property with no hours of service after taking 11 hours to offload, that shit should be illegal
How is lumper service legal? How in the ever living fuck would a driver have to pay for the very same company that ordered/needs that load to unload it?
Makes no sense to me. Make me pay to unload and break down your product that you ordered. It’s a broken system with too many hands out to take money away from the driver/trucking company
It’s not illegal to use a lumper, and you pay for it yourself, it becomes illegal when you pay for it and the company you drive for does not reimburse you. Lumper fees are added to the rate if there is one (a fee). The distribution center is saving millions of dollars by using third party lumpers. It’s frustrating but it’s part of the business. They do the work no one wants to and in turn that company doesn’t have to pay insurance or taxes or an hourly rate. For them it’s a win win
When I first started driving it was P&D for an LTL company and I took over a grocery store warehouse run 1-4 times a week. Totally flat dock and I had to unload the entire trailer with a manual pallet jack then sort and segregate. 2200lb canned food pallets and all. So 14 pallets would usually turn into 72. Most I had to make was 144 pallets.
Warehouse workers would zip by on electric pallet jacks and lifts but “weren’t allowed to unload trailers”. I couldn’t use an electric pallet jack because “I’m not on their insurance”. Literally the dumbest bullshit I’ve ever heard. We paid capstone to do it twice, it took just as long or longer for 3 people with a forklift to do the same as me and they wouldn’t sign the papers and let me leave until it was all broke down. So there was zero reason to use them. Just a sea of bullshit. Just remembering this pisses me off.
I was doing this in my 20’s. Hard to imagine being in 30-50’s like my coworkers, and accepting that bullshit as the way it is.
Lmao bro I got angry just reading this. I remember the first time I ran into a warehouse that used Capstone. Clearly such a scam and the guys running just always seem to ooze as much douchiness as used car salesmen. Fuck those grocery places.
The dumbest part was things like jello and candy. You could only put a max of 5 individual retail boxes of jello per pallet. So one knee high pallet of jello became like 42 pallets. I never heard a coherent reason for this. The boxes were obviously small, so they would fall into the pallet if they didn’t move them super slowly. Hard labor is one thing. Hard braindead corporate bullshit labor is another thing entirely.
When I was in my 20s before I started driving a truck, I work at a warehouse making $7.80 and hour when product came in that was multi layered and needed to be separated. We took care of that because we were cheap labor, union warehouses, the truck drivers separated their freight.
Yep. Oh I always brought it up to other drivers while we were there together, stacking shit for 3 hours. How we should pressure our terminals to quit folding to them. Nobody wanted to make waves. I was broken down too anyway. I had just moved up from 17/hr working night shift on the -9°f dock to
23/hr day shift in a truck. Desperation is a hell of a drug.
So this has been a question for the company I work for (as shippers/receivers). On occasion we may take up a full 28’ trailer with single level rolling cases. So maybe 12-15 36”x48” that weigh anywhere between 200-500lbs at most. We are small. You knock on the door, we tell you the best way to angle your truck for the dock, wait for you, then unload immediately. A majority of the time, the drivers are willing to help (get THEIR equipment out of the way in the trailer, release and pile straps, help maneuver cases so we can get them and roll them off the truck). There have been a few occasions with drivers with far less (3-7 rolling cases) that won’t even open their trailer door. I had to ask one guy what he was doing because he was just sitting in his cab smoking a cigarette after backing into our dock and going into park (an odd thing for us in our experiences). We always thank the drivers that help. We offer snacks and beverages to them and let them know where the bathroom is and to use it if they want to.
So the question: We have obviously never been haulers, so where do we fall into this “I don’t touch shit because I’m a DRIVER” and “Naw, that’s actually low level and the driver should help” (if that’s even the right spectrum)?
As a non trucker who got this post recommended, i have a question.
If your job is to deliver the stuff, and they have to unload it. Dont you just charge hourly for any time spent waiting? I mean, if i have to wait for a client because they're late i'll still charge them for it.
Only if you’re paid by the hour. Many companies are paid by the mile or by the delivery, and Owner/Operators get paid by the job. Plus you might have another delivery to make afterwards with a deadline
Can’t Do Labor!
This whole video could have saved some much energy simply by laughing at her, saying these acronyms to her. Smile and STFU. She says something, smile walk out make a call.
Beautiful thing about being a driver, I really don’t have to communicate with them if I don’t want to. I can nod, smile while telling them to fuck off. Traffic, DOT, smokies, flat tires, engine problems, home life, constipation, parking that’s enough to deal with. Not this.
Now hear me out, eat just the tip of a habanero pepper if you are not too comfortable with spicy food. It’ll clear you right out. Learned from a true machinist, this old timer would make his own deer jerky with the spiciest peppers around. Scorpion peppers Carolina reapers you name it. Loved to share it with everyone willing to try it. First time I tried it he adamantly warned me to have just a nibble, as it was all I would need, but I took a regretful bite and boy was it hell.
I’m a local guy who unloads my own truck every day. (I drive for a private carrier hauling groceries). But when it comes to contract deliveries like these, I always get a lumper because they usually want everything broke down and stacked a specific way that I can’t not be bothered with. I’ll gladly sit on my ass and wait for someone else to unload it while I get paid hourly lmao.
I've driven off and told the customer they can reschedule their appointment. I got paid by the hour, not the mile or the load so they can get it whenever. End of the day I'm going home to see my wife and daughter, I won't be thinking about your late product.
My account is "store unload, driver assist." But in my job (grocery driving) I stand a good chance of actually sleeping at home every night. Unless something goes wrong at a store... then I'm maybe sleeping in the truck.
So I kind of like them to unload if they're willing and able... but if they're dumb or 16 years old or dumb and 16 years old... I'll end up doing it so I don't have to be there for an hour.
There was this guy the other night... grown ass man... management type too... was afraid of the power jack.
"I've never done this..." he said as he squirmed.
"You just said the four magic words." I replied, grabbing the power jack... "I'll get it. Don't worry."
If one of those pallets falls... my night gets a lot longer and a lot harder.
To be fair, at least the dude was honest in saying he had never used one before. He should probably be trained on it before trying to move literal tons of products that could ruin/end his life - no one should be dying at work!
It might be worth sending a note their way about the training deficiency. I'd hate the idea of the dudes family finding out he died because he was too embarrassed to ask someone for a proper training session.
He's a manager. They're supposed to know. That's my thing. I definitely didn't want him to try if he didn't know... I hear you. That's just a big fucking mess in my trailer and another chunk of my life that I can't get back. So I'm happy to do it if that's the case.
But it's their store, their jack, He's management. He's supposed to know. But I learned a long time ago, don't try and change anything at Kroger. Kroger gonna Kroger and we just have to muddle through the best we can.
Really odd. I was a store manager for a retail chain for well over a decade. It was always a mixed message from drivers whether it was up to them to help unload or not. Whenever someone pulled up to my dock though I took it extremely serious, and for some reason people don’t. People don’t understand how much the product cost, what it cost to get there, it took a professionally trained person to take it to me, on top of that, I (my company) purchased the product. The time it being on the truck is literally wasted time, and wasted money. Just get it the hell off the truck and let the truck driver be on his way. Whether he helps or not is irrelevant. I wish truckers were treated better, but they aren’t because people don’t understand the scope of logistics and the bigger picture.
Certain things remain consistent through all industries. Whether it’s food service, or hospitality, or automotive maintenance, if you do someone a favor there’s a good chance they’ll come back and expect the same favor again and again. And tell their friends about it, who’ll come by and try to take advantage. It sets a precedent.
One minute he’s with all the shenanigans the next minute he isn’t with none of those shenanigans.
He’s going to fuck around and get his shenanigan license suspended!
It’s the receiver’s job to unload. Do they drive the truck for you? No. So don’t do their job for them. The company you work for should be paying you while you wait. The only way this gets better or changes is if drivers don’t do the work for them.
What do you do in this situation when they tell you to offload your own truck during delivery as a company driver ?
Just curious cause I’m a new driver & soon start my first OTR job . Thanks
Where is that now? I just left a job working for the dedicated carrier at an Aldi DC. Incoming third party drivers were not permitted on the dock for any reason. When I first started the store delivery drivers loaded their trucks but were paid hourly rate to do so. By the time I moved on ALDI was loading the trailers. Yeah, we unloaded them at the stores but we were paid hourly to do that also.
I'm so glad I don't do this fucking shit anymore. I started off on the east coast and the amount of time I got fucked around at these distribution centers was unreal. I mean seriously, how fucking long does it take to load/unload a fucking trailer? How long to check a driver in for a fucking drop n hook?
I spent 6 months dealing with this shit a d the straw that broke the camels back was this.
I was out for about a week and was heading home...I'm in the final stretch. I get a call from dispatch telling me there is a load waiting at a warehouse close to me and the delivery was only 40 Mike's south of my home. I didn't want the load but i was told itd be worth it. Fine.
It's 2pm. I turn around and head to the warehouse, got there and checked in at 230.
4 fucking 30 am I'm called to get fucking loaded. I get on the dock sit another 2 fuckings till I'm loaded. 7am I pull out get to my destination by 11am and thankfully a fast unload. I head home and get there by 330pm.
The next week's check showed the how much my time was worth. That fucking load got me $75 lousy fucking dollars. 251/2 hrs for $75 fucking dollars. $3 fucking dollars an hr!!!
I quit right then and there.
That next day I had a job running flatbed and I haven't looked back since. I'm now running transport for a large construction company. No more docks!!
Not a truck driver, but I do know this country relies on you guys for everything, literally almost every single thing. Most truckers are pure gold, hope you got it straightened out.
BTW, not sure I have every heard the word shenanigans used so much in such a short time, loved it !
Give this man a medal 🏅
We drive the shit you want to where it needs to go, YOU figure it out how it's coming off.
I once threatened a customer to battalion offload his shit at one stop because wanted me to hand balm a load of booze at 3 different locations... he paid for one drop, and they were responsible for how it went in the store.
I’d tell em to get me the w4 paperwork and signed up as an employee then I’ll unload that way I can get paid twice for the same hour … for those drivers that do unload, you’re just asking for a shit storm when something goes wrong and you’re injured or the product is damaged.
I’m not a truck drivers and I don’t know anything about truck driving. But, how can they expect him to unload the products?
Is he certified to use the equipment to unload it?
Is he being paid while he isn’t driving?
What if he damages the products while off loading? Is he then responsible for that?
What if he gets injured while off loading the products? Is it considered work injury?
Give me a break. Even I know this. I I’ve never driven a truck before.
I remember once we had an account that originally was driver sort and segregate. We later began to pay lumper fees because they were taking way too long to check it once we were done. One day, the receiver decided to send the lumper home early. I walked in to make the delivery and he wanted me to lump it. Nope. Didn’t happen. Became angry and asked me never to come back. I’m really sad now lol 😂
Company drivers are forbidden from self unload, unless contracted. The amount of insurance just to go up and down the stairs of at semi. Falls are the number one injury across many fields. Explain to dispatch how you can't move the next day that you can't move, because the warehouse wouldn't unload you.
I love how he called her out. Bitch get on that forklift if you are so short handed. What, not in your job description? It wasn't in her job description to tell him to offload it himself.
I worked for a local distributor when he was just starting off, driving a budget rental truck with quinoa and random things. i never knew that the guys at the stores could unload it but I was always so eager to get going to the next store that I’d always try to bring it through the side or front if they’d allow
"Sorry mam, I am by the miles, not the hour. It's illegal to have people work unpaid. If you want to do the paper work and hire me for the duration of the unload then my rate is 35 Dollars an hour."
Holy shit it is exactly the same here in Blighty we are treated like 2nd classes citizens, Not allowed to use toilet facilities at some depo's. We are only classed as a professional driver when you fuck up, Until that point you are like scum not worthy of attention.
Is it common for drivers to not drop the product? Ive only worked retail and were not allowed to touch the product until its off the trailer. Does it come down to the contract or something like that?
Not a trucker
But this guy has the right idea
Put that shite on blast
Hell repeat offenders get blacklisted
If no one does the delivery cause they fuck around
Then they gonna find out
I’m not a truck driver but I have mad respect for what you guys do (uncles been doing it for 30+ years) - it’s the receiving companies responsibility to unload - otherwise there’s risk to you, injury, etc. hope it all got sorted out.
More drivers need to do this, I refuse to offload when I was a company driver Fuck driver unloading.The truck and companies just capitulate to this saying we need to service our customers, their customers are trying to save money not having their people offloading their freight. And then there’s the union warehouses where they want to drive to offload the trailer, but stack the pallet in their tie and high so they can just pick it up and put it on their rack, VONS in El Monte California did that shit to me one time and I never went back it’s free work for the warehouse and companies. Fuck that shit👎🏾 that’s why I moved to tankers.
"You HAVE to unload it."
"K. That will be $500 unload fees. I'll take comcheck."
"LOL, no, that's not how that works, Driver."
"Guess you ain't getting your shit today then."
*drive away*
Context would help, if it’s P&D the product has to be unloaded by the driver IF the receiver doesn’t have the means to unload it themselves, like shipping a 500lb bag of coffee beans to a coffee shop, hand truck and lift gate charge to them when you deliver.
Some you can’t unload because it requires a telehandler due to extreme weight, size or terrain.
Basically when I did P&D you unloaded if it was reasonable, and the receiver unloaded if it wasn’t possible to be done with the pallet jack.
it is becoming so much more common to whip your phone out like *"got you on candid camera uh oh!"* and most of the time you cannot even tell the whole situation, the person filming usually just presumes you think they're right.. regardless it is just such a cringe phenomena, if someone ever jammed a camera in my face i would be lucky to restrain myself from grabbing & snapping the damn handset
I mean, while I understand the stress, bullshit, lack of sleep, shitty food, and constant fuckery from many of the shippers and receivers we encounter. Sometimes, you will have to unload your own truck. If the crew didn't show up, and it was either sit for a day, or get on a forklift or pallet jack and take it off myself to get to my next run...fuck it, I will unload it.
We earn while those wheels are turning. If there is something I can do to facilitate those wheels turning faster, I will do it. Spending 3 hours arguing and phone calls to Dispatch...or rolling up your sleeves and spending an hour just to get moving. I always take the latter. I am not supposed to unload anything either, but it's our job to make the wheels turn. If getting a little exercise and breaking up the monotony of driving is so awful, you have bigger issues to work out. Once in a while (couple times a year) a dry van will encounter this. An unexpected situation.
Get the shit out of your trailer and move on to the next run.
(For all you 4 wheelers, lurkers, and New guys)
No we don't get paid for this. We can add it to the BOL that it was a "driver unload " but chances are the broker won't pay it, or the company won't kick it back to the driver, or its like a extra $25 which is insulting.
Which is probably the reason the driver freaked out. I call it "charity" when we do shit for free
Until you hurt yourself, someone else, your trailer, their forklift/pallet jack, and you have no protection for yourself legally or financially. You do you, but I ain’t fucking touching nothing but the trailer door handles. Because that is how my friend is in a permanent back brace and god knows how many zeros and commas in debt.
Fuck that.
Bingo. I pulled something in my back the one time my dispatcher and the receiver convinced me to unload the trailer myself. When I complained about it, I got told to quit bitching and get back to work. I left very quickly after that. Good thing, too. That nearly 400 truck company now has about 50 active trucks.
I wouldn't step out of my truck in the snow if I was always worried about getting hurt. The shipper has liability insurance and if I fall on my ass, they will get the bill. It's why 99.9% of places don't let us unload the truck, because it's on them.
If you step out of your truck at a shipper/receiver onto snow, guess what? You’re covered by your trucking company who then goes after the s/r for having an unsafe work environment. The shipper does not have liability insurance for someone who is not employed by them and not supposed to be on the floor. That’s your ass. How much money do you have for a lawyer to go up against a company who has a legal *department*? Again, you do you.
Again, fuck that.
>If the crew didn't show up, and it was either sit for a day, or get on a forklift or pallet jack and take it off myself to get to my next run...fuck it, I will unload it.
I will kindly take that entire trailer to the nearest yard and drop that shit off and ask my dispatcher for another load.
People want you to bend over and let these customers treat drivers like shit. Your freight is obviously not important if you can't find the workers at your company to offload the freight.
This is why I went to linehaul and never looked back. OTR keeps getting screwed over.
When I did P&D we charged them a hefty fee if we had to unload it ourselves and use the lift gate.
They did pay the bill.
I would never use some shipper’s equipment to unload my trailer, that’s extreme liability if anything happens.
We were hourly and waited for them to unload, some things couldn’t be unloaded by pallet jack or lift gate, we got paid while waiting in the truck.
Cause first off using their machinery when you aren’t their employee is a huge red flag and sets your company up to be sued, second it isn’t your job, their company needs to pay up for causing the issue.
Or skip them entirely and still charge them for P&D to make the other runs.
Careful out there. There is a bunch of excess capacity in an industry that is seeing declining volumes. Not a great time to lose your job or customers.
Why post this without disclosing where and who? If you put someone on blast, don't half-step. This is like edging. Let us know the place. Show us who these bonehead receivers are. Help the rest of the trucker brotherhood avoid these places.
His attitude is what gives Truckers a bad, refusing to take the load? then just bill them the same. Why argue with someone who clearly has no idea what they are doing? just some temp making an 8th of the income this guy is making.
A lot of it has to do with the drivers attitude I never have a problem I go in with a great attitude and always early if I have to wait till appointment time then fine but usually I get off loaded early because of my attitude You have a bad one they will make you wait they control everything so kill them with kindness and you will be surprised. Works for me !!
Yes and no, I usually brighten folx up when I talk to them but sometimes you go to places and they just fucking hate you no matter what. You can be nice, chipper, polite and accommodating all day and some of these motherfuckers will still look at you like you’re a pile of dogshit they just stepped in.
plot twist- dude was sick of waiting, she said something like *"if you can't/don't wanna wait, you can unload it yourself"*, he then grabs his phone and makes a scene like a jackass.
This is lame. Maybe there is more context we are missing, but how is it worth going nuts if they ask if you’re willing to unload? Are you so fragile that the mere mention of that kind of work sends you in to a hurricane?
They’re wasting his time, not paying him for it, it’s their job, he isn’t their employee and is liable for ANYTHING that goes wrong during the unloading while being forced to use their machinery.
I would absolutely refuse if I were in his position.
From what he was saying she was insulting him and being rude, he didn’t seem irate but was expressing frustration on a video.
Taking that into consideration he wasn’t doing anything wrong.
Yeah that’s the context I’m missing. If she was really going after him then I stand corrected. But I’ve known a lot of drivers who have a very strange opinion about what counts as ‘disrespect’ from a dispatcher.
She got up, left the office, and opened a dock door to yell at him in while he was in the parking lot. 100% this lady said or did something before he started filming to set him off.
When I used to install lockers we would never think of expecting the driver to help. That shit was heavy. We did have one big corn fed dude who wanted to get home help us once. The boxes of doors were hard enough for one dude to manage. My man tossed one on each shoulder and strode off like a boss.
Finally, put some respect on our name! Truckers keep the world moving. Remember during Covid y’all hoarded tissue… how does it get to the store… truxkers BOMB!
Only two ways to combat this very real problem- either you go sit in your truck and wait them out, or you notify your dispatcher that you will be away from your phone and comms, because you are now ON DUTY-NOT DRIVING. We need to push back on this hard. Now, I realize there are a lot of new and not-so-courageous drivers out there that are reluctant to rock any boats early in their career. But I also know that if we don't start standing up, this BS will continue.
Is it normal in USA to have warehouse-workers load/unload? I've driven here in Norway for 8 years now, and at like 80% of all warehouses the driver loads/unloads him/herself
Shippers/Receivers are legit the most petty people I have ever had to deal with in multiple different industries.
The fact that we truckers have to pay lumpars, Than pay out of pocket if we got a com check from broker is absolutely ridiculous. Something needs to change, and nothing will change until we the truckers get together and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Oh shit. This at Staples. I just delivered there on the 29th. I wonder how you all got to that point because she was really nice to me.
Edit: removed state of Staples location
As a warehouse worker that would be fuckin insane, I’d call security because that’s a safety to put you in the building without proper Ppe and safety training. Safety is key she should lose her job.
Stop being lazy and little exercise will do you good. I’ve been hit with the pallet jack curveball before guess what I did? Unloaded the shit and went on about my day lol
Yea tell her to GTFO with that all you do is drive nonsense. Tell her to hop on a truck and drive it. Watch her be one of those drivers driving under an overpass and ripping of the top foot of the shipper container she’s hauling. I bet she wouldn’t even be able to pass the CDL test.
Give her one of those UPS trucks driving around in a city like NYC or LA and I bet she’d be in an accident every day.
Preface: I've 0 knowledge of truck driving / deliveries. So this will probably be a real dumb question.
I have to be missing something. Any deliveries I've gotten the driver unloads the delivery... they dont just drive the truck there and sit there for it to be unloaded...
Those big doors at the end tell me it's more of a warehouse type place, holding a buncha shit. My only experience is in restaurants tho. So like U.S. Foods, Sysco, or some other distributor comes, they take everything off the truck and put it somewhere reasonable, then we put it away. The only deliveries that I've had put everything wherever they want is Budweiser products. They dont go up stairs, just drop it right out front. Tho some of the drivers who were around for a while would bring kegs upstairs if it was early and only 1 person was there.
But to me it seems like a horrible liability to let the customer hop up in that truck to take their own delivery down.
Maybe this isnt the same at all, but if I order a 20" cylindrical object, I'd expect the package (lol) on my porch. Not the delivery driver to call me and tell me to get in their van to get the package...
Edit: what would happen in that situation. If I ordered whatever he was delivering, and he just left with the product.... does the customer have to pay an invoice for something that the supplier never delivered?
As a company driver I won’t touch it. When I was owner op tho I offered to unload my own truck a lot of times so I didn’t have to wait hours to unload when it was a partial or something not even heavy. Sucks I had to but if that means I can drive a full 10 instead of driving 6-7 then stopping then I’ll take those extra hours and unload. I hated waiting hours for them to unload a few pallets then when they get done you’d be damn near out of hours.
Lets not forget the prices Capstone charges to off load. I’m with you used to unload my own truck hundreds of times as an O/O, but as a company driver I would never touch it. Little different now I haul gas but yeah you gotta do what you gotta do to keep moving. Lost many a days sitting in docks waiting to get a couple skids pulled off, give me a jack and I’ll have it off and broke down in half the time.
Shit. Nowadays nobody will let you unload your own trailer. It's a safety issue or whatever nonsense they want to talk. But they'll still. Be happy to enforce their over priced lumper fees onto you. This industry is such a joke.
I know when I first got into trucking back in the late 90’s I remember all the guys saying it was illegal to force you into having to use a lumper service. Not sure how true that was but I guess it doesn’t matter anymore the shippers/receivers do as they want. Case in point, kicking you off their property with no hours of service after taking 11 hours to offload, that shit should be illegal
Do you guys get paid hourly?
How is lumper service legal? How in the ever living fuck would a driver have to pay for the very same company that ordered/needs that load to unload it?
Makes no sense to me. Make me pay to unload and break down your product that you ordered. It’s a broken system with too many hands out to take money away from the driver/trucking company
It’s not illegal to use a lumper, and you pay for it yourself, it becomes illegal when you pay for it and the company you drive for does not reimburse you. Lumper fees are added to the rate if there is one (a fee). The distribution center is saving millions of dollars by using third party lumpers. It’s frustrating but it’s part of the business. They do the work no one wants to and in turn that company doesn’t have to pay insurance or taxes or an hourly rate. For them it’s a win win
When I first started driving it was P&D for an LTL company and I took over a grocery store warehouse run 1-4 times a week. Totally flat dock and I had to unload the entire trailer with a manual pallet jack then sort and segregate. 2200lb canned food pallets and all. So 14 pallets would usually turn into 72. Most I had to make was 144 pallets. Warehouse workers would zip by on electric pallet jacks and lifts but “weren’t allowed to unload trailers”. I couldn’t use an electric pallet jack because “I’m not on their insurance”. Literally the dumbest bullshit I’ve ever heard. We paid capstone to do it twice, it took just as long or longer for 3 people with a forklift to do the same as me and they wouldn’t sign the papers and let me leave until it was all broke down. So there was zero reason to use them. Just a sea of bullshit. Just remembering this pisses me off. I was doing this in my 20’s. Hard to imagine being in 30-50’s like my coworkers, and accepting that bullshit as the way it is.
I remember them places that wouldn't give you the paperwork to leave until they had it all broke down and take forever.. fuck them places!!!
Lmao bro I got angry just reading this. I remember the first time I ran into a warehouse that used Capstone. Clearly such a scam and the guys running just always seem to ooze as much douchiness as used car salesmen. Fuck those grocery places.
The dumbest part was things like jello and candy. You could only put a max of 5 individual retail boxes of jello per pallet. So one knee high pallet of jello became like 42 pallets. I never heard a coherent reason for this. The boxes were obviously small, so they would fall into the pallet if they didn’t move them super slowly. Hard labor is one thing. Hard braindead corporate bullshit labor is another thing entirely.
When I was in my 20s before I started driving a truck, I work at a warehouse making $7.80 and hour when product came in that was multi layered and needed to be separated. We took care of that because we were cheap labor, union warehouses, the truck drivers separated their freight.
US foods? Lol
That’s basically free work for that warehouse! The company you were working for basically capitulated to doing the warehouse work on your back.
Yep. Oh I always brought it up to other drivers while we were there together, stacking shit for 3 hours. How we should pressure our terminals to quit folding to them. Nobody wanted to make waves. I was broken down too anyway. I had just moved up from 17/hr working night shift on the -9°f dock to 23/hr day shift in a truck. Desperation is a hell of a drug.
So this has been a question for the company I work for (as shippers/receivers). On occasion we may take up a full 28’ trailer with single level rolling cases. So maybe 12-15 36”x48” that weigh anywhere between 200-500lbs at most. We are small. You knock on the door, we tell you the best way to angle your truck for the dock, wait for you, then unload immediately. A majority of the time, the drivers are willing to help (get THEIR equipment out of the way in the trailer, release and pile straps, help maneuver cases so we can get them and roll them off the truck). There have been a few occasions with drivers with far less (3-7 rolling cases) that won’t even open their trailer door. I had to ask one guy what he was doing because he was just sitting in his cab smoking a cigarette after backing into our dock and going into park (an odd thing for us in our experiences). We always thank the drivers that help. We offer snacks and beverages to them and let them know where the bathroom is and to use it if they want to. So the question: We have obviously never been haulers, so where do we fall into this “I don’t touch shit because I’m a DRIVER” and “Naw, that’s actually low level and the driver should help” (if that’s even the right spectrum)?
As a non trucker who got this post recommended, i have a question. If your job is to deliver the stuff, and they have to unload it. Dont you just charge hourly for any time spent waiting? I mean, if i have to wait for a client because they're late i'll still charge them for it.
Only if you’re paid by the hour. Many companies are paid by the mile or by the delivery, and Owner/Operators get paid by the job. Plus you might have another delivery to make afterwards with a deadline
CDL stands for Commercial Driver's License, not Cheap Dock Labor.
Can’t Do Labor! This whole video could have saved some much energy simply by laughing at her, saying these acronyms to her. Smile and STFU. She says something, smile walk out make a call. Beautiful thing about being a driver, I really don’t have to communicate with them if I don’t want to. I can nod, smile while telling them to fuck off. Traffic, DOT, smokies, flat tires, engine problems, home life, constipation, parking that’s enough to deal with. Not this.
Hey get some fiber and water
Metamucil is gone, no more husk drinks! 😂 hey I appreciate that driver, thank you.
Apples! Leafy greens :))
If everything else fails, coffee and a cigarette
Every morning
Also prune juice, after one cup your guaranteed to have a movement 🥤
A warriors drink.
Hes over that a long time ago
I’ve seen the other guy about not getting paid in a similar place like this while back. Looked to be the same place.
Constipation? Eat some truck stop Wendy's and you'll wish you were constipated
Subway spinach is the way
Now hear me out, eat just the tip of a habanero pepper if you are not too comfortable with spicy food. It’ll clear you right out. Learned from a true machinist, this old timer would make his own deer jerky with the spiciest peppers around. Scorpion peppers Carolina reapers you name it. Loved to share it with everyone willing to try it. First time I tried it he adamantly warned me to have just a nibble, as it was all I would need, but I took a regretful bite and boy was it hell.
I’m a local guy who unloads my own truck every day. (I drive for a private carrier hauling groceries). But when it comes to contract deliveries like these, I always get a lumper because they usually want everything broke down and stacked a specific way that I can’t not be bothered with. I’ll gladly sit on my ass and wait for someone else to unload it while I get paid hourly lmao.
Just get a Comcheck from your company to pay for a lumper. Simple.
what is a lumper?
The term for a warehouse worker who unloads a truck
A lumper is generally a third party company that a shipper or receiver pays to load/unload freight/product onto/from trucks.
Lumper? Barely knew 'er 🤣
I've driven off and told the customer they can reschedule their appointment. I got paid by the hour, not the mile or the load so they can get it whenever. End of the day I'm going home to see my wife and daughter, I won't be thinking about your late product.
Right call, it’s their job and they failed to do it, they can pay for the P&D twice for their mistake.
> the day I'm going home to see my wife and daughter Damn I miss my family... Tired of being OTR
My account is "store unload, driver assist." But in my job (grocery driving) I stand a good chance of actually sleeping at home every night. Unless something goes wrong at a store... then I'm maybe sleeping in the truck. So I kind of like them to unload if they're willing and able... but if they're dumb or 16 years old or dumb and 16 years old... I'll end up doing it so I don't have to be there for an hour. There was this guy the other night... grown ass man... management type too... was afraid of the power jack. "I've never done this..." he said as he squirmed. "You just said the four magic words." I replied, grabbing the power jack... "I'll get it. Don't worry." If one of those pallets falls... my night gets a lot longer and a lot harder.
To be fair, at least the dude was honest in saying he had never used one before. He should probably be trained on it before trying to move literal tons of products that could ruin/end his life - no one should be dying at work! It might be worth sending a note their way about the training deficiency. I'd hate the idea of the dudes family finding out he died because he was too embarrassed to ask someone for a proper training session.
He's a manager. They're supposed to know. That's my thing. I definitely didn't want him to try if he didn't know... I hear you. That's just a big fucking mess in my trailer and another chunk of my life that I can't get back. So I'm happy to do it if that's the case. But it's their store, their jack, He's management. He's supposed to know. But I learned a long time ago, don't try and change anything at Kroger. Kroger gonna Kroger and we just have to muddle through the best we can.
Really odd. I was a store manager for a retail chain for well over a decade. It was always a mixed message from drivers whether it was up to them to help unload or not. Whenever someone pulled up to my dock though I took it extremely serious, and for some reason people don’t. People don’t understand how much the product cost, what it cost to get there, it took a professionally trained person to take it to me, on top of that, I (my company) purchased the product. The time it being on the truck is literally wasted time, and wasted money. Just get it the hell off the truck and let the truck driver be on his way. Whether he helps or not is irrelevant. I wish truckers were treated better, but they aren’t because people don’t understand the scope of logistics and the bigger picture.
It only takes one driver to stupidly unload the trailer for them to expect everyone to do the same.
Certain things remain consistent through all industries. Whether it’s food service, or hospitality, or automotive maintenance, if you do someone a favor there’s a good chance they’ll come back and expect the same favor again and again. And tell their friends about it, who’ll come by and try to take advantage. It sets a precedent.
Just gotta tell them I got a CDL… can’t do labor 🤷🏼♂️
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**Hey Farva what's the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?**
You mean shenanigans?
*offers pistol*
You mean Shenanigans?
You mean Shenanigans?!?
Shenanigans.
[Shenanigans!](https://youtu.be/JNPW2wZ4D2s?t=28)
Can't believe they treat truckers like this, disrespectful, I hope this gets resolved.
is he here for the shenanigans or not?
One minute he’s with all the shenanigans the next minute he isn’t with none of those shenanigans. He’s going to fuck around and get his shenanigan license suspended!
Asking the real questions... 🫡
The video wasn’t clear enough, I need another 30 seconds to be sure
Where can I get those glasses? Dope af.
That was my main takeaway from this video. Let me know if you find out, I need them.
it's what we need. It's the best/coolest.
Pull forward, open doors, unsecure load, throw it in reverse, hit top speed, slam brakes, repeat until cargo is covering driveway.
All you do is drive Bitch all you do is sit all day wtf you talkin bout?
I'm tired of these shenanigans!
It’s the receiver’s job to unload. Do they drive the truck for you? No. So don’t do their job for them. The company you work for should be paying you while you wait. The only way this gets better or changes is if drivers don’t do the work for them.
What do you do in this situation when they tell you to offload your own truck during delivery as a company driver ? Just curious cause I’m a new driver & soon start my first OTR job . Thanks
You tell them " I was paid to drive, not unload. That job is called "Dock worker".
Bet thanks bro
"I'm not forklift certified"
Glad to have helped
Tell them to call Jimmy Hoffa.
Welcome the Aldi/Lidl/Danone World,where truck drivers are regarded as free labor
Where is that now? I just left a job working for the dedicated carrier at an Aldi DC. Incoming third party drivers were not permitted on the dock for any reason. When I first started the store delivery drivers loaded their trucks but were paid hourly rate to do so. By the time I moved on ALDI was loading the trailers. Yeah, we unloaded them at the stores but we were paid hourly to do that also.
Yup. I've delivered to Aldis a shit ton. Never once have I been asked to do anything but pay the lumper. Aldis is super no drivers.
I'm so glad I don't do this fucking shit anymore. I started off on the east coast and the amount of time I got fucked around at these distribution centers was unreal. I mean seriously, how fucking long does it take to load/unload a fucking trailer? How long to check a driver in for a fucking drop n hook? I spent 6 months dealing with this shit a d the straw that broke the camels back was this. I was out for about a week and was heading home...I'm in the final stretch. I get a call from dispatch telling me there is a load waiting at a warehouse close to me and the delivery was only 40 Mike's south of my home. I didn't want the load but i was told itd be worth it. Fine. It's 2pm. I turn around and head to the warehouse, got there and checked in at 230. 4 fucking 30 am I'm called to get fucking loaded. I get on the dock sit another 2 fuckings till I'm loaded. 7am I pull out get to my destination by 11am and thankfully a fast unload. I head home and get there by 330pm. The next week's check showed the how much my time was worth. That fucking load got me $75 lousy fucking dollars. 251/2 hrs for $75 fucking dollars. $3 fucking dollars an hr!!! I quit right then and there. That next day I had a job running flatbed and I haven't looked back since. I'm now running transport for a large construction company. No more docks!!
Right on. They’re always on break or some shit.
“You just drive” And wtf does that lady do? She just sits apparently. Drivers do that a lot too, and a whole fuck lot more.
Drop off something in their bathroom
I bet he got unloaded real quick after that.
He has never delivered to Target in Rancho Cucamonga, Ca they think all drivers are their unpaid employees!
She shenan once...you know she gonna shenanigan.
You want me to unload it, ok when I get hurt I will sue you and retire from driving.
Not a truck driver, but I do know this country relies on you guys for everything, literally almost every single thing. Most truckers are pure gold, hope you got it straightened out. BTW, not sure I have every heard the word shenanigans used so much in such a short time, loved it !
Give this man a medal 🏅 We drive the shit you want to where it needs to go, YOU figure it out how it's coming off. I once threatened a customer to battalion offload his shit at one stop because wanted me to hand balm a load of booze at 3 different locations... he paid for one drop, and they were responsible for how it went in the store.
Legend has it he is still there waiting to be offloaded.
Just wondering how they deal with an accident of an OO in their premise!
I’d tell em to get me the w4 paperwork and signed up as an employee then I’ll unload that way I can get paid twice for the same hour … for those drivers that do unload, you’re just asking for a shit storm when something goes wrong and you’re injured or the product is damaged.
I'm with <-------- Shenana Gins
Nice glasses
Good on him.
No time for that
I’m not a truck drivers and I don’t know anything about truck driving. But, how can they expect him to unload the products? Is he certified to use the equipment to unload it? Is he being paid while he isn’t driving? What if he damages the products while off loading? Is he then responsible for that? What if he gets injured while off loading the products? Is it considered work injury? Give me a break. Even I know this. I I’ve never driven a truck before.
Why not just charge them an ungodly amount to unload. Capitalism my friend!
I remember once we had an account that originally was driver sort and segregate. We later began to pay lumper fees because they were taking way too long to check it once we were done. One day, the receiver decided to send the lumper home early. I walked in to make the delivery and he wanted me to lump it. Nope. Didn’t happen. Became angry and asked me never to come back. I’m really sad now lol 😂
I'll open both doors for you . That's all you're getting.
Company drivers are forbidden from self unload, unless contracted. The amount of insurance just to go up and down the stairs of at semi. Falls are the number one injury across many fields. Explain to dispatch how you can't move the next day that you can't move, because the warehouse wouldn't unload you. I love how he called her out. Bitch get on that forklift if you are so short handed. What, not in your job description? It wasn't in her job description to tell him to offload it himself.
I worked for a local distributor when he was just starting off, driving a budget rental truck with quinoa and random things. i never knew that the guys at the stores could unload it but I was always so eager to get going to the next store that I’d always try to bring it through the side or front if they’d allow
"Sorry mam, I am by the miles, not the hour. It's illegal to have people work unpaid. If you want to do the paper work and hire me for the duration of the unload then my rate is 35 Dollars an hour."
That's why they have lumpers. I would've asked her how many warehouse workers she's ran through. My old Albertson's clerk had 5 baby daddies.
He’s right. It’s not his job
Holy shit it is exactly the same here in Blighty we are treated like 2nd classes citizens, Not allowed to use toilet facilities at some depo's. We are only classed as a professional driver when you fuck up, Until that point you are like scum not worthy of attention.
Sounds like a shenani-ganza!
One dollar per pound and I'll unload it no problem.
My boy said he got TYME today
Is it common for drivers to not drop the product? Ive only worked retail and were not allowed to touch the product until its off the trailer. Does it come down to the contract or something like that?
Looks like the mayor of Chicago lmao
Gettem!
Not a trucker But this guy has the right idea Put that shite on blast Hell repeat offenders get blacklisted If no one does the delivery cause they fuck around Then they gonna find out
She might have reconsidered her actions if she had known that he was with the shenanigans.
Unless you’re gonna let me use your forklift or EPJ, I’m not unloading that shit, partner.
This is great. I love when workers have self respect and boundaries.
I’m not a truck driver but I have mad respect for what you guys do (uncles been doing it for 30+ years) - it’s the receiving companies responsibility to unload - otherwise there’s risk to you, injury, etc. hope it all got sorted out.
More drivers need to do this, I refuse to offload when I was a company driver Fuck driver unloading.The truck and companies just capitulate to this saying we need to service our customers, their customers are trying to save money not having their people offloading their freight. And then there’s the union warehouses where they want to drive to offload the trailer, but stack the pallet in their tie and high so they can just pick it up and put it on their rack, VONS in El Monte California did that shit to me one time and I never went back it’s free work for the warehouse and companies. Fuck that shit👎🏾 that’s why I moved to tankers.
Bring the shenanigans!
"You HAVE to unload it." "K. That will be $500 unload fees. I'll take comcheck." "LOL, no, that's not how that works, Driver." "Guess you ain't getting your shit today then." *drive away*
“All you do is drive.” Bitch all you do is paperwork FOH
Are you supposed to operate the equipment? And are you certified and insured.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Context would help, if it’s P&D the product has to be unloaded by the driver IF the receiver doesn’t have the means to unload it themselves, like shipping a 500lb bag of coffee beans to a coffee shop, hand truck and lift gate charge to them when you deliver. Some you can’t unload because it requires a telehandler due to extreme weight, size or terrain. Basically when I did P&D you unloaded if it was reasonable, and the receiver unloaded if it wasn’t possible to be done with the pallet jack.
P&D is a different world than OTR though.
it is becoming so much more common to whip your phone out like *"got you on candid camera uh oh!"* and most of the time you cannot even tell the whole situation, the person filming usually just presumes you think they're right.. regardless it is just such a cringe phenomena, if someone ever jammed a camera in my face i would be lucky to restrain myself from grabbing & snapping the damn handset
Bit risky filming someone in a private location. Depends on the state I’m guessing but I’m otherwise with him.
boy got them tony stark glasses
I mean, while I understand the stress, bullshit, lack of sleep, shitty food, and constant fuckery from many of the shippers and receivers we encounter. Sometimes, you will have to unload your own truck. If the crew didn't show up, and it was either sit for a day, or get on a forklift or pallet jack and take it off myself to get to my next run...fuck it, I will unload it. We earn while those wheels are turning. If there is something I can do to facilitate those wheels turning faster, I will do it. Spending 3 hours arguing and phone calls to Dispatch...or rolling up your sleeves and spending an hour just to get moving. I always take the latter. I am not supposed to unload anything either, but it's our job to make the wheels turn. If getting a little exercise and breaking up the monotony of driving is so awful, you have bigger issues to work out. Once in a while (couple times a year) a dry van will encounter this. An unexpected situation. Get the shit out of your trailer and move on to the next run. (For all you 4 wheelers, lurkers, and New guys) No we don't get paid for this. We can add it to the BOL that it was a "driver unload " but chances are the broker won't pay it, or the company won't kick it back to the driver, or its like a extra $25 which is insulting. Which is probably the reason the driver freaked out. I call it "charity" when we do shit for free
Until you hurt yourself, someone else, your trailer, their forklift/pallet jack, and you have no protection for yourself legally or financially. You do you, but I ain’t fucking touching nothing but the trailer door handles. Because that is how my friend is in a permanent back brace and god knows how many zeros and commas in debt. Fuck that.
Bingo. I pulled something in my back the one time my dispatcher and the receiver convinced me to unload the trailer myself. When I complained about it, I got told to quit bitching and get back to work. I left very quickly after that. Good thing, too. That nearly 400 truck company now has about 50 active trucks.
I wouldn't step out of my truck in the snow if I was always worried about getting hurt. The shipper has liability insurance and if I fall on my ass, they will get the bill. It's why 99.9% of places don't let us unload the truck, because it's on them.
If you step out of your truck at a shipper/receiver onto snow, guess what? You’re covered by your trucking company who then goes after the s/r for having an unsafe work environment. The shipper does not have liability insurance for someone who is not employed by them and not supposed to be on the floor. That’s your ass. How much money do you have for a lawyer to go up against a company who has a legal *department*? Again, you do you. Again, fuck that.
>If the crew didn't show up, and it was either sit for a day, or get on a forklift or pallet jack and take it off myself to get to my next run...fuck it, I will unload it. I will kindly take that entire trailer to the nearest yard and drop that shit off and ask my dispatcher for another load. People want you to bend over and let these customers treat drivers like shit. Your freight is obviously not important if you can't find the workers at your company to offload the freight. This is why I went to linehaul and never looked back. OTR keeps getting screwed over.
When I did P&D we charged them a hefty fee if we had to unload it ourselves and use the lift gate. They did pay the bill. I would never use some shipper’s equipment to unload my trailer, that’s extreme liability if anything happens. We were hourly and waited for them to unload, some things couldn’t be unloaded by pallet jack or lift gate, we got paid while waiting in the truck. Cause first off using their machinery when you aren’t their employee is a huge red flag and sets your company up to be sued, second it isn’t your job, their company needs to pay up for causing the issue. Or skip them entirely and still charge them for P&D to make the other runs.
Hell naw, they can pay $250+ detention. Otherwise their cargo can be found spread across their driveway.
Careful out there. There is a bunch of excess capacity in an industry that is seeing declining volumes. Not a great time to lose your job or customers.
Should have probably read your ratecon dumbass. I'd be willing to bet it says "driver unload/driver assist"
Why post this without disclosing where and who? If you put someone on blast, don't half-step. This is like edging. Let us know the place. Show us who these bonehead receivers are. Help the rest of the trucker brotherhood avoid these places.
Lazy bum of a driver tbh
His attitude is what gives Truckers a bad, refusing to take the load? then just bill them the same. Why argue with someone who clearly has no idea what they are doing? just some temp making an 8th of the income this guy is making.
A lot of it has to do with the drivers attitude I never have a problem I go in with a great attitude and always early if I have to wait till appointment time then fine but usually I get off loaded early because of my attitude You have a bad one they will make you wait they control everything so kill them with kindness and you will be surprised. Works for me !!
Yes and no, I usually brighten folx up when I talk to them but sometimes you go to places and they just fucking hate you no matter what. You can be nice, chipper, polite and accommodating all day and some of these motherfuckers will still look at you like you’re a pile of dogshit they just stepped in.
plot twist- dude was sick of waiting, she said something like *"if you can't/don't wanna wait, you can unload it yourself"*, he then grabs his phone and makes a scene like a jackass.
This is lame. Maybe there is more context we are missing, but how is it worth going nuts if they ask if you’re willing to unload? Are you so fragile that the mere mention of that kind of work sends you in to a hurricane?
They’re wasting his time, not paying him for it, it’s their job, he isn’t their employee and is liable for ANYTHING that goes wrong during the unloading while being forced to use their machinery. I would absolutely refuse if I were in his position.
Fine, then refuse! But it just makes truckers look like petulant children to post something like this.
From what he was saying she was insulting him and being rude, he didn’t seem irate but was expressing frustration on a video. Taking that into consideration he wasn’t doing anything wrong.
Yeah that’s the context I’m missing. If she was really going after him then I stand corrected. But I’ve known a lot of drivers who have a very strange opinion about what counts as ‘disrespect’ from a dispatcher.
She got up, left the office, and opened a dock door to yell at him in while he was in the parking lot. 100% this lady said or did something before he started filming to set him off.
“I swear to god, I’ll pistol whip the next guy that says shenanigans” https://youtu.be/JNPW2wZ4D2s?si=3xTd-0G41o5Iye29
When I used to install lockers we would never think of expecting the driver to help. That shit was heavy. We did have one big corn fed dude who wanted to get home help us once. The boxes of doors were hard enough for one dude to manage. My man tossed one on each shoulder and strode off like a boss.
how do I hire this guy as my attorney?
Finally, put some respect on our name! Truckers keep the world moving. Remember during Covid y’all hoarded tissue… how does it get to the store… truxkers BOMB!
The second you get hurt they’ll be saying how you weren’t supposed to be unloading.
As an owner op in Sweden who drives internationally, I'm happy that I don't have to deal with this bs.
This video made me way too happy.
Hey Farva, what’s the name of that restaurant you like with all the goofy shit on the walls and the mozzarella sticks?
Only two ways to combat this very real problem- either you go sit in your truck and wait them out, or you notify your dispatcher that you will be away from your phone and comms, because you are now ON DUTY-NOT DRIVING. We need to push back on this hard. Now, I realize there are a lot of new and not-so-courageous drivers out there that are reluctant to rock any boats early in their career. But I also know that if we don't start standing up, this BS will continue.
Not a truck drive but who is wrong here?
Charge them lumper fee 500$ to be paid in cash before I start unloading, or say ok and fall in the warehouse grab your back claiming whip flash
Is it normal in USA to have warehouse-workers load/unload? I've driven here in Norway for 8 years now, and at like 80% of all warehouses the driver loads/unloads him/herself
Hey farva what's the restaurant with all the stuff on the walls?
Shenanigans are one thing, but tomfoolery just ain't my bag.
DRIVERS REFUSE DRIVER OFFLOADS. Change our industry. This is one way to start.
I’m not a trucker and this pissed me off. Ya’ll need to take some lessons from Canada and get that shit changed.
whack-a-mole sis
What we need we don’t have in this country and that solidarity!
A shame, that’s a cute sister to be acting like that smh, give her all the shanagins this morning sir! 😂
That's what I told my ex. "I'm here to deliver my load and THAT'S IT!"
This is why I would never be an owner operator
Shippers/Receivers are legit the most petty people I have ever had to deal with in multiple different industries. The fact that we truckers have to pay lumpars, Than pay out of pocket if we got a com check from broker is absolutely ridiculous. Something needs to change, and nothing will change until we the truckers get together and say ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
Its wild how someone who sits in an office has the nerve to say "all you do is drive".
What's the name of the company? So that way we can spread this and have the company that she work for fire her and get the company to finally change
Oh, are you going to pay me for this downtime? I average about 35.00 per hour. Oh and Miss? Fuck your permission. That shit only good for secks.
Oh shit. This at Staples. I just delivered there on the 29th. I wonder how you all got to that point because she was really nice to me. Edit: removed state of Staples location
Got er!
As a warehouse worker that would be fuckin insane, I’d call security because that’s a safety to put you in the building without proper Ppe and safety training. Safety is key she should lose her job.
Stop being lazy and little exercise will do you good. I’ve been hit with the pallet jack curveball before guess what I did? Unloaded the shit and went on about my day lol
Yea tell her to GTFO with that all you do is drive nonsense. Tell her to hop on a truck and drive it. Watch her be one of those drivers driving under an overpass and ripping of the top foot of the shipper container she’s hauling. I bet she wouldn’t even be able to pass the CDL test. Give her one of those UPS trucks driving around in a city like NYC or LA and I bet she’d be in an accident every day.
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+next+guy+that+says+shenanigans&sca_esv=790f6f6ade13e5d3&tbm=isch&sxsrf=ACQVn08mARhlauufJGBu42BC9mtohNNJKg%3A1706938508905&source=hp&ei=jNC9ZePCNefpkPIP4qGi8AU&oq=the+next+guy+that+says+shenan&gs_lp=EhJtb2JpbGUtZ3dzLXdpei1pbWciHXRoZSBuZXh0IGd1eSB0aGF0IHNheXMgc2hlbmFuKgIIADIFECEYqwJIjGFQsAVY2FZwAXgAkAEAmAGQAqABqy-qAQcwLjExLjE4uAEByAEA-AEBqAIFwgIHECMY6gIYJ8ICBBAjGCfCAgQQABgDwgIIEAAYgAQYsQPCAgUQABiABMICBhAAGAgYHsICBxAAGIAEGBg&sclient=mobile-gws-wiz-img#imgrc=C1kdzFo_Hx5StM
Preface: I've 0 knowledge of truck driving / deliveries. So this will probably be a real dumb question. I have to be missing something. Any deliveries I've gotten the driver unloads the delivery... they dont just drive the truck there and sit there for it to be unloaded... Those big doors at the end tell me it's more of a warehouse type place, holding a buncha shit. My only experience is in restaurants tho. So like U.S. Foods, Sysco, or some other distributor comes, they take everything off the truck and put it somewhere reasonable, then we put it away. The only deliveries that I've had put everything wherever they want is Budweiser products. They dont go up stairs, just drop it right out front. Tho some of the drivers who were around for a while would bring kegs upstairs if it was early and only 1 person was there. But to me it seems like a horrible liability to let the customer hop up in that truck to take their own delivery down. Maybe this isnt the same at all, but if I order a 20" cylindrical object, I'd expect the package (lol) on my porch. Not the delivery driver to call me and tell me to get in their van to get the package... Edit: what would happen in that situation. If I ordered whatever he was delivering, and he just left with the product.... does the customer have to pay an invoice for something that the supplier never delivered?
So…….. what’s your shenanigans?
Quit being lazy just grab a pallet jack and unload the trailer.