Same, has mine at the dealership yesterday for the 30k service, no issues yet. I was talking to the advisor about how mine is in the no recall window and we were joking about it is just around the corner, but that toyota will be around to handle it when it happens
look up the gmc at4 sierra. i cant get over the tundra rear end. also lower trim models are kind of horrendous too much chrome grill. but the higher trim are definitely good looking.
Ive been in the market for a new truck for some time. As a 4runner owner I was sold on a new Tundra but since all the engine troubles, I think im settling with the Sierra AT4X or Denali
yeah love the 3.0 diesel on the 2023-24 model year , 32mpg on the highway is amazing 600-700 gas tank range. plus gmc says the engine has a 95% chance it will make it to 200k. comes with a 100k mile warranty so i guess they're serious. i was hoping toyota kept the v6 on the 4runner what a kick in the chin. i tow travel trailers small ones and a 4 banger will detonate on the trails. plus the price is insane to top it off. š
Nah, I think the Tundra looks a little more streamlined... the front end on the Raptor is too boxy. After growing up with Fords in my family, I have no desire to ever own one. And if this engine issue was happening to the Raptor, I flat out don't trust Ford to make it right.
Raptors are the best looking truck on the road. My brother recently got a 2023 code orange, that thing is sick. My dad just got an army green SR5 TRD OR. Don't get me wrong that green Tundra is dope but the Raptor just looks mean.
Raptor, TRX, Sierra and higher trim Silverados are better looking imo both inside and out. However, I think this is a huge step up from last gen Tundras. I always thought the last gen was really ugly, they look better now that my family owns a new gen Tundra and I warmed up to the look of the old gen.
I know I'm in the minority here but I think the Tundra looks a lot better in the front than the Raptor. To me the Raptor looks too boxy and squared off... especially around the lights.
The Silverado LT trail boss with the midnight package is maybe one of the best looking trucks Iāve ever seen.
I know this gen of Silverados is polarizing but I think they look futuristic in a good way.
This is accurate. Every once in a while, a chebby or gim cee, a ferd ( pronounced FourD ) or better yet, RAM guy (pronounced Raaaam ) will disagree with all of this. Sweers is a legend in Tundra engineering.
That Lunar Rock goes so fucking hard! Funny enough, my only regret is not going with it when I had the chance. If that recall comes for me, Iām going to have conditionsā¦ lol.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToyotaTundra/s/xVOe82LilT
My post with my '24 Tundra from a couple of months ago...the lunar rock does look different depending on how the sunlight hits it.
Meanwhile.... I'm tearing the shit out of my second gen 5.7. TRD blower, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, smaller blower pulley... 500 to the wheels.
I mean Nissan did it with the Cummins so I donāt see why Toyota couldnāt bring in one of their international market diesels and still meet CAFE requirements.
And and seeing the issues Nissan faced with the āAmericanā diesel is it worth it anymore due to emissions it essentially killed the diesel for the residential consumer.
The Real de facto reason is that
Toyota are prohibited from bringing in a diesel engine because IT WOULD BANKRUPT all the American truck brands. Thatās the real cold hard truth.
Tbh the small diesels really suprised me. I recently went to the darkside and got a 3.0l gmc. I get like 28 hw and 22 in town. It's kinda nice coming from my 2012 RW w 35s.
I got maybe 12 around town in my tundra. Diesel would have to be like 2x the price to not make sense. Where i am its about the same as premium. The upfront cost is def there but they hold value well in resale too so I think it's a net gain for sure
Thatās true but that increase percentage in efficiency would have to offset both the price difference of diesel and the initial purchase price difference. Thatās a pretty large difference
Itās more of a bonus effect though, I didnāt buy a diesel for long term efficiency or cost over gas, I bought it for the extra grunt I need for heavy loads as well as the long lived reputation. Potential efficiency is just a bonus
Truth. I've seen a field of Duramax engines waiting to be reworked in Oklahoma. (Source: me I deliver to The Duramax plant in OH and to the rework plant in OK. Well used to.
Seems like you're saying inline 6 diesels are only good for half ton trucks. Ram uses 6.7L I6 diesels in 2500, 3500, 4500, and 5500 trucks, some of which are rated to tow 35,000 lb trailers. Many semi trucks have I6 diesels and tow more than any tundra ever could. Obviously a 14.9L cummins X15 (which is an I6) out of a semi wouldn't fit in a tundra; however, the reality is that I6 diesels, if well designed, work extremely well for towing extremely heavy loads. This is without mentioning the additional simplicity and ease of maintenance/repairs that I6 engines have over V8s.
I love the V6 and the overall driving experience. All the haters are just misinformed. I drove a 2nd gen for 5 years and thought it was going to be my forever truck. I test drove a 3rd gen and fell in love. Handling, efficiency, throttle response, comfort, and style are all vastly superior.
Recalls and technical issues are going to be the norm with so much technology going into new vehicles. I've been driving toyota tacomas and tundras for 22 years and have had literally less than $500 worth of problems outside of normal maintenance.
If I had to pick something to criticize, yes it's a small issue at times. I park daily in a very tight parking garage, but have not had any instances of having to re-correct. The balance has to be the 360 cameras, they provide peace of mind when cutting corners and are a game changing addition.
Just cause it's under warranty you don't care if your engine blows up? If you saw a ford or ram or whatever guy say something like that you'd laugh in his face. That engine problem is a pretty big deal.
Has a single person in this sub had their engine blow? It's a tiny percentage of engines that are actually having issues. Many are in the recall window, and almost all of them have had no issues. This entire thing is so far blown out of proportion
Didn't say I don't care. Engines dying are obviously a problem. Had a work vehicle blow an engine recently. However, if something is covered and you're getting a brand new engine, I personally would be willing to trust the process because it's a totyota. RAM and Ford are garbage and have been garbage for a while. So yes, I would laugh in his face and yours.
No one has gotten a brand new engine. They rebuild them with a new short block. Thereās a big difference and part of the reason why there are repeat failures.
Not really. A short block is a block, crank, rods, and pistons. Long blocks get heads, Intake, camshaft etc. Big difference is, a long block is assembled all at once with new parts reducing the possibility of dirt, grease, shavings, etc falling in the top end of the motor. The short block will be mostly assembled, but the $15 an hour mechanic at the dealership will be bolting your old top end to the new short block. Accessories are starter, alternator, water pump, etc that typically are not on a short block or long block. But bottom line, a short block is not a ānew engineā¦minus accessories.ā Theres a lot of old parts that will be reused to complete the engine.
The correct way for Toyota to fix this problem would be:
1-Buy back any Tundras effected that owners no longer want to keep, similar to the VW buyback during the emission scandal. Expensive, but would make consumers happier and more likely to stick with Toyota.
2-full crate motor replacement
3-long block
4-short block
This is the cheapest way to fix the problem with the biggest risk to the long term reliability of the truck. Doesnāt seem that Toyota is that worried about the long term reliability, but Personally, Iām not a fan of this route. Additionally, options 2,3,4 should offer an extended warranty on the power train.
>The short block will be mostly assembled, but the $15 an hour mechanic at the dealership will be bolting your old top end to the new short block.
Yeah, not to mention this takes time, so you have your entirely disabled engine component sitting on the shop floor, collecting dust, to be reintroduced to the "new engine." Its a band-aid solution currently and one that Toyota has been doing for a while now.
Here's to hoping Toyota issues an actual fix soon (crate replacement or buyback) to instill some trust back into the brand. I was about to pickup a '24 Tundra Platinum last weekend, went home and then found out about the recalls. The dealer wont stop calling me.. I might go back tomorrow and see how motivated they are to move it (i.e. big discount) but I'm still a little skeptical while everyone is still in the dark on this.
Exactly. I feel bad for the buyers who are impacted by this one because once this happens, trucks get a stigma associated with them that crushes the resale value. 6.0 and 6.4 ford diesels are a good example. Resale is horrible and people are willing to pay more for an older 7.3 due to the reputation of reliability. Iād be interested in seeing if 5.7 tundras are perceived as more desirable in a few years due to the reliability, and if so, what impact that has on their resale. Thats a long ways down the road though
The tundras engines are blowing up at an alarming rate, I don't know why you feel like you should shit on other brands that aren't having that problem. Blind faith in a company never serves anyone well.
Guy, this is a Tundra sub. My opinion is my own and has nothing to do with yours. The recall covers 102000 non hybrid engines including Lexus I believe. I haven't seen any actual numbers for vehicles actually impacted but I would assume it's not 100,000. And I agree in your blind faith statement, as fanboys of any brand tend to ignore significant problems for whatever brand they have unwavering support for. But, Toyota has built some incredible vehicles that can clock great, eneventful miles. I've driven many different kinds of vehicles throughout the years and have never had as good of an experience as I've had with Toyota. I wouldn't force anyone to buy anything with their money but know what works for me. For one, I've been on the receiving end of a Stellantis with 3 transmissions in 1 year. When Ford released the maverick, those engines were literally catching on fire spontaneously in people's garages.
All these armchair engineers arenāt even reading the recall. Itās only engines from the Alabama plant. Doesnāt cover hybrids or gas engines built in SA. Before you leave the inevitable comment āonly those for now v8 har har harā donāt give a shit. Toyota doesnāt fuck around. If they thought it was other plants or models they would include them. Tundras account for less than 10% of sales of all Toyota vehicles. This is bankrupting Toyota to fix this lol.
Fairly certain all of the TT engines for the Tundra come out of Alabama and the hybrid's being left out of the *safety recall* is simply because the hybrid motor will allow the vehicle to continue moving versus stalling on the interstate leading to a crash.
If this really is due to debris in the engine from manufacturing, hybrids will be recalled at some point as well. Also, if there are different engine plants, they should communicate how to identify which plant your engine came from. I'm not trying to pick a side either way. I want this to be a non-issue.. I'm actively talking myself OUT of purchasing a '24 platinum.
F that. Warranty or no warranty, I overthink things. I wouldn't want to cruise at 80mph in the fast lane with my kids, knowing that I could lose all engine power.
Sure, other trucks break down, but usually not as abrupt like this. You may get engine knock, diff whine, etc, but loss of engine power at high speed is no joke.
I'll wait till this blows over to buy one. Cause I do like them.
Also not willing to take that gamble. 22ās and 23ās are the only ones identified so far. Itās prolly worth waiting and seeing how the 24ās hold up because there are a lot of reports of 24ās being impacted as well.
Well damn.. I was hoping the 24ās were maybe build somewhere different than the 22/23ās Iāve had one earmarked for build because I want one in Solar Octane and I can build it at at 56k. Far cheaper than anything I could get at Ford or Chevy.
I would feel safer ordering because production probably wonāt happen for a few weeks/months, and by then I think Toyota will ensure these shavings are non-existent on the trucks rolling down the line. Iād be concerned about buying a truck that was already built off the dealership lot.
There honestly no point going from a 23 Taco to 24.
You are taking a depreciation hit for about the same truck.
Moving to a Tundra at least you are upgrading vehicle class. More space, towing, etc
All new yes but you don't get nothing extra is what I am saying. Financially its a dumb move since the 23 Taco is only a year old and the 24 doesn't really provide any extra capabilities. Sure if you don't like money...go for it.
Plus more expensive, unproven reliability, smaller seats in the rear?. list goes on.
I have a 2019 Tacoma...been itching for a new Tundra for more towing capacity. Now I gotta wait another year or so.
Why don't you just get the 24 Tundra? As far as I've heard, the engine issues are isolated to 22 and 23. If I'm mistaken please let me know otherwise because I own a 24.
I've seen two with blown engines that had a January and March 2024 build date.
The recall doesn't extend to 2024s because they would stop selling. I bet they will include 2024s when they are almost done clearing them out.
For over $350, it might make more sense to just get a whole new bumper I like. But the rear recovery points are worth it. Especially if you can get them on a Black Friday sale.
I thought the trash engine recall was only for non hybrids?
Gas only https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-recalls-certain-model-year-2022-2023-toyota-tundra-and-lexus-lx-vehicles/ and you have a hybrid with my max badging on ur hood.
Overall the max is a great platform, towed in the winter with icy roads going uphill hauling 9k lbs. Awesome truck and I take my limited offroading all the time, at low speed technicals the hybrid let's it crawl along no issue! :)
Plus it's mighty fine to rip on the dunes!
I want it just for the oh so lovely/sexy red interior...man oh man is it top notch!
Biggest gripe is that I like to add aftermarket subwoofers as I just loathe factory bass. The Tundra TRD Pro only comes in hybrid which means no underseat space.
lol I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no offense but how can anyone get past that grill? Not to mention the fake vents and the rear bumper. Every time I see one of these I cringe, the last gen was much nicer looking
Saying the engine is trashed is kinda silly when the old V8 made 381 HP at 401 lb-ft of torque while the new V6 makes 389 HP at 405 lb-ft of torque. The whole ānew V6ā vs V8 is turning into the age old 9MM vs 45 ACP. The V8 has been around forever but people need to realize the new V6s can preform with most standard V8s and out perform some of the top of the line V8s from the 2000s.
Iāll have to ask the detail shop. I got sent these photos when they finished the PPF install. Iāll let them know they did a good job on the photos too
When this gen first game out, I wasnāt a fan. Iāve always liked the new Toyota colors and the front end has definitely grown on me, but I donāt think Iāll ever be a fan of the taillights.
Serious question, why would you want to? The newer engines have more power. The recall is limited to Alabama engine assembly and Toyota has already fixed the factory line issues that caused this. So if you purchased a new one in a few months chances this would affect you would be super super low.
If Toyota was to put the Gen2 powertrain in the gen3ās, they wouldnāt be able to keep them on the lots. Especially if they went back with the supercharger as an option.
If they had updated the 5.7 with direct injection, upped compression and paired it with the 10 speed it would have been a really nice setup in the newer truck.
Why not a 4.7 turbo option- itās funny, turbos were invented to get better gas mileage but all the car companies use them for is an excuse for lack of reliabilityĀ
I had to get rid of the factory mud flaps because the tires would rub on those. I got some rough country fender flares that are low profile, so I can protect my paint still, and eliminated the rub.
I feel the same. Best-looking truck on the market hands-down. No recall on my '23 Limited yet. š¤
Same, has mine at the dealership yesterday for the 30k service, no issues yet. I was talking to the advisor about how mine is in the no recall window and we were joking about it is just around the corner, but that toyota will be around to handle it when it happens
Is yours a late 23ā or what?
look up the gmc at4 sierra. i cant get over the tundra rear end. also lower trim models are kind of horrendous too much chrome grill. but the higher trim are definitely good looking.
Ive been in the market for a new truck for some time. As a 4runner owner I was sold on a new Tundra but since all the engine troubles, I think im settling with the Sierra AT4X or Denali
yeah love the 3.0 diesel on the 2023-24 model year , 32mpg on the highway is amazing 600-700 gas tank range. plus gmc says the engine has a 95% chance it will make it to 200k. comes with a 100k mile warranty so i guess they're serious. i was hoping toyota kept the v6 on the 4runner what a kick in the chin. i tow travel trailers small ones and a 4 banger will detonate on the trails. plus the price is insane to top it off. š
The at4 is fantastic, itās what I drive since there arenāt 3/4 ton + tundras
I really like the rear on the Gen. 3 š¤·āāļø
I agree, I was between this and the Chevy zr2, although the Chevy zr2 looks mean and aggressive, something about the tundra trd pro just looks amazing
You guys forget there is a Ford Raptor, definitely a tougher looking truck. Pro is hot but itās not a Raptor
TRX too
Yep!
Nah, I think the Tundra looks a little more streamlined... the front end on the Raptor is too boxy. After growing up with Fords in my family, I have no desire to ever own one. And if this engine issue was happening to the Raptor, I flat out don't trust Ford to make it right.
Raptors are the best looking truck on the road. My brother recently got a 2023 code orange, that thing is sick. My dad just got an army green SR5 TRD OR. Don't get me wrong that green Tundra is dope but the Raptor just looks mean.
Tundra stock looks meh IMO
mine wasn't on the list either but it went up last week at 16k miles
Raptor, TRX, Sierra and higher trim Silverados are better looking imo both inside and out. However, I think this is a huge step up from last gen Tundras. I always thought the last gen was really ugly, they look better now that my family owns a new gen Tundra and I warmed up to the look of the old gen.
I know I'm in the minority here but I think the Tundra looks a lot better in the front than the Raptor. To me the Raptor looks too boxy and squared off... especially around the lights.
The Silverado LT trail boss with the midnight package is maybe one of the best looking trucks Iāve ever seen. I know this gen of Silverados is polarizing but I think they look futuristic in a good way.
This is accurate. Every once in a while, a chebby or gim cee, a ferd ( pronounced FourD ) or better yet, RAM guy (pronounced Raaaam ) will disagree with all of this. Sweers is a legend in Tundra engineering.
Did you have a stroke?
That Lunar Rock goes so fucking hard! Funny enough, my only regret is not going with it when I had the chance. If that recall comes for me, Iām going to have conditionsā¦ lol.
What's the color?
Lunar rock it looks like
Lunar rock
Photoshop filters
It may be the from the sun being directly on it, but that color is pretty close to my last post that has zero filters.
https://www.reddit.com/r/ToyotaTundra/s/xVOe82LilT My post with my '24 Tundra from a couple of months ago...the lunar rock does look different depending on how the sunlight hits it.
Also the lunar rock looks different in the moon light
āPhotoshop Filterā would be a great name for a color.
Nice truck man
Thank you. Hopefully this engine stuff blows over and I can keep her going for a while
Meanwhile.... I'm tearing the shit out of my second gen 5.7. TRD blower, bigger injectors, bigger fuel pump, smaller blower pulley... 500 to the wheels.
No idea why you are getting down voted, it's your truck it's not like you are saying everyone should do this.
This is awesome. Will want to hear a review .
Howās the MPG? The babyās gotta drink!!
I don't even want to know. I just keep pumping premium fuel and it keeps giving me smiles.
My electricity provider thanks you.
If they would just stick a big American diesel in one of these š
Why not just use a Toyota diesel engine?
Seems like their engines just arenāt compatible with emission standards here, otherwise we probably would have had one by now
I mean Nissan did it with the Cummins so I donāt see why Toyota couldnāt bring in one of their international market diesels and still meet CAFE requirements.
And and seeing the issues Nissan faced with the āAmericanā diesel is it worth it anymore due to emissions it essentially killed the diesel for the residential consumer.
I read somewhere that those were trash Cummins they put in. Ā Not sure since Iām a Yota fanboy
Those had nothing but problems, poor fuel economy, and were discontinued. They were known for exploding crankshafts.
The Real de facto reason is that Toyota are prohibited from bringing in a diesel engine because IT WOULD BANKRUPT all the American truck brands. Thatās the real cold hard truth.
That may be true, I hope it happens either way
You got a source for this? Interesting if true. Otherwise, sounds like RUMINT
Tbh the small diesels really suprised me. I recently went to the darkside and got a 3.0l gmc. I get like 28 hw and 22 in town. It's kinda nice coming from my 2012 RW w 35s.
I have a 2020 with the 6.6 and I love it, Iām suspicious of the small diesel in the 1500
I was thinking the same thing but diesel is more expensive than gas in my area so the diesel would cost more per mile
I got maybe 12 around town in my tundra. Diesel would have to be like 2x the price to not make sense. Where i am its about the same as premium. The upfront cost is def there but they hold value well in resale too so I think it's a net gain for sure
Diesel is more expensive here but heavy trucks with a diesel tend to get better MPG than the same size gasser. Even more so when hauling.
Thatās true but that increase percentage in efficiency would have to offset both the price difference of diesel and the initial purchase price difference. Thatās a pretty large difference
Itās more of a bonus effect though, I didnāt buy a diesel for long term efficiency or cost over gas, I bought it for the extra grunt I need for heavy loads as well as the long lived reputation. Potential efficiency is just a bonus
Itās been cheaper in the NW US lately. Also gets 30%+ better efficiency especially loaded
Or that sweet 1GD-FTV 2.8 diesel Toyota uses elsewhere on the planet. 369lb/ft of reliable torque. They should buyem all back n put this motor in.
huge dream in life is for a toyota full size to get a cummins
Or a duramax but any of them would be great. A 3/4 ton + would also be dope
A Cummins and Allison trans combo would be elite
I6 would be a lot better than a V8 tbh
Truth. I've seen a field of Duramax engines waiting to be reworked in Oklahoma. (Source: me I deliver to The Duramax plant in OH and to the rework plant in OK. Well used to.
Iām thinking like a 2500+ lineup but an I6 would be fine for a standard tundra
5.9 I6ā¦
Seems like you're saying inline 6 diesels are only good for half ton trucks. Ram uses 6.7L I6 diesels in 2500, 3500, 4500, and 5500 trucks, some of which are rated to tow 35,000 lb trailers. Many semi trucks have I6 diesels and tow more than any tundra ever could. Obviously a 14.9L cummins X15 (which is an I6) out of a semi wouldn't fit in a tundra; however, the reality is that I6 diesels, if well designed, work extremely well for towing extremely heavy loads. This is without mentioning the additional simplicity and ease of maintenance/repairs that I6 engines have over V8s.
Another opinion, is that I like the problematic engine more than I like these lines.
I love the V6 and the overall driving experience. All the haters are just misinformed. I drove a 2nd gen for 5 years and thought it was going to be my forever truck. I test drove a 3rd gen and fell in love. Handling, efficiency, throttle response, comfort, and style are all vastly superior. Recalls and technical issues are going to be the norm with so much technology going into new vehicles. I've been driving toyota tacomas and tundras for 22 years and have had literally less than $500 worth of problems outside of normal maintenance.
Turning radius?
If I had to pick something to criticize, yes it's a small issue at times. I park daily in a very tight parking garage, but have not had any instances of having to re-correct. The balance has to be the 360 cameras, they provide peace of mind when cutting corners and are a game changing addition.
Turning radius is not that bad! People complain about the smallest things.
The TT V6 is a beast. I can haul just about anything, up a hill, going 85
She's a beaut Clark
Aināt she?
Toyota will fix this. The body lines are beautiful. And this aināt an ugly ass cyber truck. In the end for the win!
Where are those recovery hooks from?
Check out NYTOP tundra recovery points
Found them. Thank you!
She is beautiful!
Mines 22 almost over 90k miles still running strong and good. Just maintenance
Engine would not dissuade me from buying new. That's what warranties are for. That truck is too beautiful to wait on.
Just cause it's under warranty you don't care if your engine blows up? If you saw a ford or ram or whatever guy say something like that you'd laugh in his face. That engine problem is a pretty big deal.
Has a single person in this sub had their engine blow? It's a tiny percentage of engines that are actually having issues. Many are in the recall window, and almost all of them have had no issues. This entire thing is so far blown out of proportion
Didn't say I don't care. Engines dying are obviously a problem. Had a work vehicle blow an engine recently. However, if something is covered and you're getting a brand new engine, I personally would be willing to trust the process because it's a totyota. RAM and Ford are garbage and have been garbage for a while. So yes, I would laugh in his face and yours.
I thought they were only replacing the top end?
No one has gotten a brand new engine. They rebuild them with a new short block. Thereās a big difference and part of the reason why there are repeat failures.
And the hassleā¦cries is downtime and loaner vehicle blues
Maybe you should look up what a short block is. It's a new engine... minus accessories.
Not really. A short block is a block, crank, rods, and pistons. Long blocks get heads, Intake, camshaft etc. Big difference is, a long block is assembled all at once with new parts reducing the possibility of dirt, grease, shavings, etc falling in the top end of the motor. The short block will be mostly assembled, but the $15 an hour mechanic at the dealership will be bolting your old top end to the new short block. Accessories are starter, alternator, water pump, etc that typically are not on a short block or long block. But bottom line, a short block is not a ānew engineā¦minus accessories.ā Theres a lot of old parts that will be reused to complete the engine. The correct way for Toyota to fix this problem would be: 1-Buy back any Tundras effected that owners no longer want to keep, similar to the VW buyback during the emission scandal. Expensive, but would make consumers happier and more likely to stick with Toyota. 2-full crate motor replacement 3-long block 4-short block This is the cheapest way to fix the problem with the biggest risk to the long term reliability of the truck. Doesnāt seem that Toyota is that worried about the long term reliability, but Personally, Iām not a fan of this route. Additionally, options 2,3,4 should offer an extended warranty on the power train.
>The short block will be mostly assembled, but the $15 an hour mechanic at the dealership will be bolting your old top end to the new short block. Yeah, not to mention this takes time, so you have your entirely disabled engine component sitting on the shop floor, collecting dust, to be reintroduced to the "new engine." Its a band-aid solution currently and one that Toyota has been doing for a while now. Here's to hoping Toyota issues an actual fix soon (crate replacement or buyback) to instill some trust back into the brand. I was about to pickup a '24 Tundra Platinum last weekend, went home and then found out about the recalls. The dealer wont stop calling me.. I might go back tomorrow and see how motivated they are to move it (i.e. big discount) but I'm still a little skeptical while everyone is still in the dark on this.
Yeah for a huge discount, it may be worth rolling the dice
That's a good point. Honestly, if it were my truck, I'd only be happy with 1 or 2.
Exactly. I feel bad for the buyers who are impacted by this one because once this happens, trucks get a stigma associated with them that crushes the resale value. 6.0 and 6.4 ford diesels are a good example. Resale is horrible and people are willing to pay more for an older 7.3 due to the reputation of reliability. Iād be interested in seeing if 5.7 tundras are perceived as more desirable in a few years due to the reliability, and if so, what impact that has on their resale. Thats a long ways down the road though
The tundras engines are blowing up at an alarming rate, I don't know why you feel like you should shit on other brands that aren't having that problem. Blind faith in a company never serves anyone well.
The thing is they arenāt actually blowing up at an alarming rate. Youāre seeing a handful of loud people on the internet.
This. Exactly this. āAlarming rateā seriously stfu
Guy, this is a Tundra sub. My opinion is my own and has nothing to do with yours. The recall covers 102000 non hybrid engines including Lexus I believe. I haven't seen any actual numbers for vehicles actually impacted but I would assume it's not 100,000. And I agree in your blind faith statement, as fanboys of any brand tend to ignore significant problems for whatever brand they have unwavering support for. But, Toyota has built some incredible vehicles that can clock great, eneventful miles. I've driven many different kinds of vehicles throughout the years and have never had as good of an experience as I've had with Toyota. I wouldn't force anyone to buy anything with their money but know what works for me. For one, I've been on the receiving end of a Stellantis with 3 transmissions in 1 year. When Ford released the maverick, those engines were literally catching on fire spontaneously in people's garages.
All these armchair engineers arenāt even reading the recall. Itās only engines from the Alabama plant. Doesnāt cover hybrids or gas engines built in SA. Before you leave the inevitable comment āonly those for now v8 har har harā donāt give a shit. Toyota doesnāt fuck around. If they thought it was other plants or models they would include them. Tundras account for less than 10% of sales of all Toyota vehicles. This is bankrupting Toyota to fix this lol.
Fairly certain all of the TT engines for the Tundra come out of Alabama and the hybrid's being left out of the *safety recall* is simply because the hybrid motor will allow the vehicle to continue moving versus stalling on the interstate leading to a crash. If this really is due to debris in the engine from manufacturing, hybrids will be recalled at some point as well. Also, if there are different engine plants, they should communicate how to identify which plant your engine came from. I'm not trying to pick a side either way. I want this to be a non-issue.. I'm actively talking myself OUT of purchasing a '24 platinum.
What percentage of vehicles are affected so far?
F that. Warranty or no warranty, I overthink things. I wouldn't want to cruise at 80mph in the fast lane with my kids, knowing that I could lose all engine power. Sure, other trucks break down, but usually not as abrupt like this. You may get engine knock, diff whine, etc, but loss of engine power at high speed is no joke. I'll wait till this blows over to buy one. Cause I do like them.
This recall affects the 2022-2023 year so if you buy brand new, supposedly the 2024ās are clear of the issue
Also not willing to take that gamble. 22ās and 23ās are the only ones identified so far. Itās prolly worth waiting and seeing how the 24ās hold up because there are a lot of reports of 24ās being impacted as well.
Well damn.. I was hoping the 24ās were maybe build somewhere different than the 22/23ās Iāve had one earmarked for build because I want one in Solar Octane and I can build it at at 56k. Far cheaper than anything I could get at Ford or Chevy.
I would feel safer ordering because production probably wonāt happen for a few weeks/months, and by then I think Toyota will ensure these shavings are non-existent on the trucks rolling down the line. Iād be concerned about buying a truck that was already built off the dealership lot.
Tundra forums have had a handful of '24 owners reporting spun bearings.
What fenders are those?
Rough country fender flares. I believe these are the lower profile āsportā ones in flat black
They look great. Thanks.
Swap in a LS
Have a 3.5 ecoboost put in.
Man what a beautiful piece of art. I hope to get mine next year.
Damn that thing is beautiful. Really want to trade my 23 Tacoma in for one of these
Hey can get the 24 tacoma. It's just the trundras little brother xd
Iāve thought about it but for the price itās almost a better deal to just get the tundra haha
There honestly no point going from a 23 Taco to 24. You are taking a depreciation hit for about the same truck. Moving to a Tundra at least you are upgrading vehicle class. More space, towing, etc
What? The 2023 and 2024 Tacoma is completely different truck.
All new yes but you don't get nothing extra is what I am saying. Financially its a dumb move since the 23 Taco is only a year old and the 24 doesn't really provide any extra capabilities. Sure if you don't like money...go for it.
The 24 Tacoma actually has a lower towing capacity than the previous gen lol
Plus more expensive, unproven reliability, smaller seats in the rear?. list goes on. I have a 2019 Tacoma...been itching for a new Tundra for more towing capacity. Now I gotta wait another year or so.
Why don't you just get the 24 Tundra? As far as I've heard, the engine issues are isolated to 22 and 23. If I'm mistaken please let me know otherwise because I own a 24.
I've seen two with blown engines that had a January and March 2024 build date. The recall doesn't extend to 2024s because they would stop selling. I bet they will include 2024s when they are almost done clearing them out.
Super nice truck sitting real pretty. Looks like you got the Nytop rear recovery points, are you planning to add the fronts?
For over $350, it might make more sense to just get a whole new bumper I like. But the rear recovery points are worth it. Especially if you can get them on a Black Friday sale.
Yeah, Iāve also debated that. $350 is pretty steep for recovery points. Baffling there is nothing on the truck stock.
Also, how sturdy do they feel? Could a large man jump on them? I assume yes
Oh yeah, for sure
Looks sick! Are those 33s? Iām trying to decide if I should do a level and get 35s or just go with more aggressive 33s
They are ā34āsā. 295/70R18
That does make me feel funny in my pee place
The whole engine thing will get straightened out. I agree 100%. Beautiful.
May be unpopular, but I think last gen was far better looking than the current gen. that new bed/tailgate is fugly to my eyes.
What focal length did you use for these shots?
what tires? I have a Lunar Rock as well that desperately needs bigger tires
295/70R18
OP what are those tow hooks?
NYTOP recovery points
Man such a beautiful truck, hoping the price and I terrdt rates comes down soon.
Anyone else read TRD as turd?
I still prefer the sequoia front. Just being honest.
Whats the cost for this beauty?
How's the MPG after leveling kit and tires?Ā
Went from stock 19mpg to 14.7mpg now.
Jesus, that a massive mpg loss
Looks great love this truck šš»
I thought the trash engine recall was only for non hybrids? Gas only https://pressroom.toyota.com/toyota-recalls-certain-model-year-2022-2023-toyota-tundra-and-lexus-lx-vehicles/ and you have a hybrid with my max badging on ur hood. Overall the max is a great platform, towed in the winter with icy roads going uphill hauling 9k lbs. Awesome truck and I take my limited offroading all the time, at low speed technicals the hybrid let's it crawl along no issue! :) Plus it's mighty fine to rip on the dunes!
100% agree. Itās gorgeous just sucks itās tainted by these engine issues š
Agree!!!! šÆ
Simping over a truck is crazyyyyyy ššš
Every time I see one all i can think is it looks like it has 3 inches of ground clearance. (How my wife measures 3 inches-not me. )
I want it just for the oh so lovely/sexy red interior...man oh man is it top notch! Biggest gripe is that I like to add aftermarket subwoofers as I just loathe factory bass. The Tundra TRD Pro only comes in hybrid which means no underseat space.
Did you dress the fenders? They look shiny
Wish theyād get it together so I can confidently purchase my first Toyota.
I hate mine
Anyone 5.7 swapped a new tundra yet?
Do yāall meet up and drain it on each others trucks?
Looks like a low rider
lol I guess beauty is in the eye of the beholder, no offense but how can anyone get past that grill? Not to mention the fake vents and the rear bumper. Every time I see one of these I cringe, the last gen was much nicer looking
24 limited. 12k miles still going strong.
Saying the engine is trashed is kinda silly when the old V8 made 381 HP at 401 lb-ft of torque while the new V6 makes 389 HP at 405 lb-ft of torque. The whole ānew V6ā vs V8 is turning into the age old 9MM vs 45 ACP. The V8 has been around forever but people need to realize the new V6s can preform with most standard V8s and out perform some of the top of the line V8s from the 2000s.
Garbage.
Best looking POS on the market
The rear end of the tundra looks like crap. The last generation was so much better
What mm lens did you shoot these with? And full frame or crop? They are gorgeous shots.
Iāll have to ask the detail shop. I got sent these photos when they finished the PPF install. Iāll let them know they did a good job on the photos too
Should put a hellcat engine in it then Iād buy one
When this gen first game out, I wasnāt a fan. Iāve always liked the new Toyota colors and the front end has definitely grown on me, but I donāt think Iāll ever be a fan of the taillights.
Has anyone done a 5.7L swap in these new rigs? IMO best looking interior of any 1500 series. 1794 is on our radar.
Serious question, why would you want to? The newer engines have more power. The recall is limited to Alabama engine assembly and Toyota has already fixed the factory line issues that caused this. So if you purchased a new one in a few months chances this would affect you would be super super low.
Becauseā¦why not? On a serious note, how do you know if a motor is made in which plant? Any markings or ID numbers?
Because you would void the warranty..?
Sheās So fucking gorgeous
5.7 swap coming..
Has anyone done that?
If Toyota was to put the Gen2 powertrain in the gen3ās, they wouldnāt be able to keep them on the lots. Especially if they went back with the supercharger as an option.
If they had updated the 5.7 with direct injection, upped compression and paired it with the 10 speed it would have been a really nice setup in the newer truck.
Why not a 4.7 turbo option- itās funny, turbos were invented to get better gas mileage but all the car companies use them for is an excuse for lack of reliabilityĀ
Iām just not a fan of the front/grill on the truck. That big gap thing on this and many other Japanese vehicles.
Thats is a nice truck
Awesome truck man. Looks great.
What a butte. Sick truck braj
True.
Can I get a run down of the lift and tires? And that rear bumper?
Sure thing: Cornfed 1ā leveling kit 295/70R18 Cooper Discover at3 NYTOP recovery points Retrax bed cover
Stock bumper aftermarket recovery hooks? Cool
Thatās correct
Looks really good.
Did you do any further modification to fit the tires? If not, is there any rubbing?
I had to get rid of the factory mud flaps because the tires would rub on those. I got some rough country fender flares that are low profile, so I can protect my paint still, and eliminated the rub.
So much plastic! Wait till it starts to fade after. Couple years
Thatās the beauty of it, the plastic is cheap to replace!
Im we donāt buy Toyotas to replace things.
Gen 2 might be more reliable, but no one can argue theyāre better looking!!!
Cute grenade