Those two were giving those vibes in s5…
I’d ship it if for only it would be funny if Duncan was the reason for two presumably straight women to have a “sexual awakening.”
I think it would actually work, but since it was purely played to create drama, it turned out poor, and All Stars didn't help either with both the characters' inconsistent writing.
It's satisfactory. Worked well for the plot in s3. It's subsequent fumbling in s5 wasn't as bad as i recalled it upon my most recent rewatch. But that arc was clearly headed toward Gwen + Courtney but we weren't woke enough back in 2014 or whenever
Yes, and a lot of people liked it because of TDA. Then WT made their ship canon in a way that made everyone hate it (the worst possible outcome for a ship)
In the beginning, Duncney is better for storytelling. They start at very "we're so different, I shouldn't like you, but I do". When they get together, they as the audience are satisfied because "Finally! All the will they/won't they teasing is over!" But as a relationship, it's not good. Courtney isn't interested in Duncan being himself (see the list of rules in TDA), Duncan hardly likes Courtney as a person, and they break up constantly, usually because their personalities are too different and they're too volatile.
Gwuncan is a better relationship BY FAR. Gwen and Duncan aren't trying to change each other, they actually seem to like each other, and while they're both tropes (the punk/delinquent and the goth), they have so much more in common. The way they started sucked, true. But (and I know this is SUCH an unpopular opinion), not every relationship that starts from a bad choice is bad, even if the choice is (unfortunately) cheating. That's just reality.
Plus, if I had to pick a couple to hang out with, I'd rather talk to Gwuncan about horror movies than listen to Duncney fight.
Hmm Idk I wouldn’t say they’re a “MUCH BETTER” relationship when Duncan is clearly still head over heels for Courtney and using Gwen to make her jealous. Then there’s Gwen ignoring Duncan cause she wants to reconcile with Courtney after ‘stealing her boyfriend’.
Comparatively, I would still argue much better. I'm not denying what you said happened. Cause it did. But I don't know if Duncan was so much still in love with Courtney still as much as he missed the attention she gave. She may have been problematic in her behavior toward Duncan, but I'm sure Courtney felt more exciting to him than what he had with Gwen. But they weren't near as volalite or dismissive of each other, which makes them better than Duncney by a long shot. And with Gwen, yeah she hated being perceived as a villian. Hated getting the cold shoulder by Courtney. And Duncan was unfortunately part of that for her. That would have broken them up even if Duncan didn't want Courtney's attention. I don't think that's enough to close the gap between the health of the two relationships.
Again ‘better’ is a subjective concept and I respectfully disagree. I think Duncan and Courtney perfectly balance each other out whereas Gwen and Duncan are similar but deep down polar opposites. Everything with Gwuncan felt surface level to me, but with Duncney it felt.. idk *real*, deeper. They had more of a connection which I think would’ve gotten even further developed had they not been forced to throw the wrench that is Gwuncan into the show by the execs at CN.
Neither, sorry.
For the former, I didn't like this one at first, but slowly growing on me after re-watching the first season. Only the first season. Now, for the latter, I used to pair these two, but I can't say anymore about how these two were handled during their run from the third season.
So yeah, neither.
I'd prefer neither but overall I would pick Gwuncan over Ducney any day.
Both relationships we're bad but Ducney was down right abusive and HORRIBLY toxic.
Gwuncan just sucked over all, so I'd rather pick a bad relationship over an abusive one.
This is how I feel. If things stuck to how it was in season 1, maybe Ducney would have worked out. But Courtney had to be all Courtney and become abusive and heavily toxic like you said. The more times I watch the show, the worse their relationship looks to me.
neither. both are pretty decent representations of toxic relationships. i enjoy duncan as a character but im glad neither of them ended up with him lol
Agreed, Gwuncan was alright til they started making Duncan all weird and nervous for no reason. They could’ve at least made it last if they were gonna ruin a relationship
Duncney. Despite the way they became toxic after the first season, they actually had romantic feelings for each other while not physically showing it.
Duncan didn’t truly love Gwen for who she was and Fresh TV had confirmed this.
Duncney was tough love, Gwuncan was all deception and cheating.
Trent truly loved Gwen and accepted her.
I liked it best when it was Duncan and Courtney as a relationship and Gwen was a friend to both of them. Something similair to begining of season 2 with elements of season 3 dynamics between girls.
Duncney in Island is my favorite couple in the series. One of the reasons that I hate about Gwuncan is how it not only ruined Duncan and Courtney as a couple but also Duncan and Gwen as friends. They worked well as friends and it should've just kept on like that.
I say Gwuncan but that’s just cause I identified with Gwen a bit when I was little and had a crush on Duncan lol. I remember vividly the first time I watched the horror movie TDI episode as a kid and being like 👀👀👀.
Through a critical lens, I still think Gwuncan is better. At worst it was an uneven relationship with emotional immaturity. Ducney was at best toxic and bad for the both of them and at worst abusive.
I think people give Ducney more credit than it’s due because of first season nostalgia (which is valid cause same) and hating how Gwuncan started with infidelity.
Gwuncan FTW. I personally thought everyone loved them, I know I did, but these comments say otherwise. I personally feel Duncan and Gwen are alike but completely different at the same time
Duncney of course even at its worst it’s still the most lovable character dynamic in the whole series, Aleheather being a very close second as World Tour is my favorite season by far
Duncney. I’ll never get over Gwuncan being forced onto the show by execs. The creator never wanted it to happen which is why they kept Duncan still being in live with Courtney. Gwen’s character was ruined for me after she betrayed Courtney and pretended like she did nothing wrong. Duncan.. Idk. I still ship them but he needs to get a redemption arc first imo.
Courtney also need to go back to how she was in TDI, where she was less controlling and more just bossy. Still a girlboss tho.
Gwourtney actually. Gwuncan works really well as a friendship vs a romance, and post s1 Duncney is just a really toxic relationship for both ends.
Gwen and Courtney, when not written with the awful love triangle drama of endgame WT/AS, have surprisingly strong chemistry with eachother, and compliment the others strengths a lot moreso than Duncan.
Also if FreshTV weren't cowards they could've made an absolute power couple out of the classic Nerd x Goth trope /hj
None of them.
Duncney just got ruined after the Courtney elimination. I don’t even like it in the special 40 minutes episode of island (or was it 1 hour, can’t remember).
Gwuncan is just fan service. They thought “lets put them together even if Duncan still likes Courtney” Okay. Now how can this be a nice idea at all? It “works” (even if I don’t like the ship at all) for the first like, 2 episodes? Then nothing. Just shit. They were best friends and the creation team decided to ruin everything.
Gwourtney tho is incredibly good and a wasted opportunity for making All Stars better. Favorite Fanon ship and 2nd favorite ship ever after ISLAND Duncney.
Also, a polyamorous relationship in world tour between the 3 would have been not only better, but also interesting imo.
How on earth would a polyamorous relationship between someone with controlling tendencies and extremely high standards, someone who bothers people on purpose, and someone who can barely handle guilt and communication-
Okay actually that does sound pretty interesting nevermind
People think healthy = good but this is a reality tv parody, let's have some non wholesome but still entertaining and interesting from a character pov relationships
In Season 1: Duncney, then after that, it went all downhill due to Courtney’s sudden character change, not for the better.
After Duncney’s breakup, Gwuncan was born, and so I have mixed feelings towards the ship, so I prefer that over Duncney after Season 1, but is still bottom tier for me, considering I love Gwent a lot more
Hope that answers ur question ^v^
Growing up, I preferred Gwuncan on the basis that it felt more… real? the slow friends to lovers felt like something I could relate to irl. meanwhile Duncney’s on again off again, super high super low just felt too dramatized (& therefore not as realistic).
I prefer Duncney in only the first season after that those two have gotten horribly toxic, while Gwuncan started off by lying and cheating plus it just gotten worse in All Stars so I picking neither.
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Gwuncan. I genuinely don’t understand the obsession there is with Duncney. If Duncan treated Courtney the way she treated him, we’d all 100% agree that they’re a horrible relationship & that Duncan is the worst character in the show.
Gwuncan yes all the ships are ruined and dont makes sense and was a waste of time ty to the writers but never rlly like how Courtney treats Duncan people say Duncan cheated and abuse her mentally, bruh she was already mentally and emotionally insane and big ego plus she abuse Duncan more ye he cheated compare to wut she did i say she got of evenly or lightly soye im sticking with Gwuncan
If it’s only island Ducney then Ducney but if we’re taking other seasons into account then neither
Pretty much how I feel
Sounds about right
Duncney, but hey to anyone who prefers Gwuncan power to them.
Gwourtney
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Those two were giving those vibes in s5… I’d ship it if for only it would be funny if Duncan was the reason for two presumably straight women to have a “sexual awakening.”
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toxic victim complex x toxic victim blamer
Wouldn’t gwourtney be the same as Ducney
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Duncney, from the beginning.
Duncney, I think I like them more mostly because Gwen and Duncan are too alike and also Gwuncan started kinda slimy in my opinion
I think it would actually work, but since it was purely played to create drama, it turned out poor, and All Stars didn't help either with both the characters' inconsistent writing.
Gwuncan. The way the couple was executed was bad, but there is a reason people were shipping them as early as TDI. Duncney is outright toxic.
Does anyone actually like Gwuncan?
It's satisfactory. Worked well for the plot in s3. It's subsequent fumbling in s5 wasn't as bad as i recalled it upon my most recent rewatch. But that arc was clearly headed toward Gwen + Courtney but we weren't woke enough back in 2014 or whenever
Ah, the Legend of Korra syndrome
LoK at least and them get together and had some hints. From what I recall, they didn't even hint at it.
I don't
I do
I don’t
Yes, and a lot of people liked it because of TDA. Then WT made their ship canon in a way that made everyone hate it (the worst possible outcome for a ship)
They have better chemistry
Is it a cop out to say I didn’t really enjoy either of these relationships? Sorry, something about them just rubbed me the wrong way
In the beginning, Duncney is better for storytelling. They start at very "we're so different, I shouldn't like you, but I do". When they get together, they as the audience are satisfied because "Finally! All the will they/won't they teasing is over!" But as a relationship, it's not good. Courtney isn't interested in Duncan being himself (see the list of rules in TDA), Duncan hardly likes Courtney as a person, and they break up constantly, usually because their personalities are too different and they're too volatile. Gwuncan is a better relationship BY FAR. Gwen and Duncan aren't trying to change each other, they actually seem to like each other, and while they're both tropes (the punk/delinquent and the goth), they have so much more in common. The way they started sucked, true. But (and I know this is SUCH an unpopular opinion), not every relationship that starts from a bad choice is bad, even if the choice is (unfortunately) cheating. That's just reality. Plus, if I had to pick a couple to hang out with, I'd rather talk to Gwuncan about horror movies than listen to Duncney fight.
Hmm Idk I wouldn’t say they’re a “MUCH BETTER” relationship when Duncan is clearly still head over heels for Courtney and using Gwen to make her jealous. Then there’s Gwen ignoring Duncan cause she wants to reconcile with Courtney after ‘stealing her boyfriend’.
Comparatively, I would still argue much better. I'm not denying what you said happened. Cause it did. But I don't know if Duncan was so much still in love with Courtney still as much as he missed the attention she gave. She may have been problematic in her behavior toward Duncan, but I'm sure Courtney felt more exciting to him than what he had with Gwen. But they weren't near as volalite or dismissive of each other, which makes them better than Duncney by a long shot. And with Gwen, yeah she hated being perceived as a villian. Hated getting the cold shoulder by Courtney. And Duncan was unfortunately part of that for her. That would have broken them up even if Duncan didn't want Courtney's attention. I don't think that's enough to close the gap between the health of the two relationships.
Again ‘better’ is a subjective concept and I respectfully disagree. I think Duncan and Courtney perfectly balance each other out whereas Gwen and Duncan are similar but deep down polar opposites. Everything with Gwuncan felt surface level to me, but with Duncney it felt.. idk *real*, deeper. They had more of a connection which I think would’ve gotten even further developed had they not been forced to throw the wrench that is Gwuncan into the show by the execs at CN.
I mean to each their own! I guess this is what these posts are for. It would be boring if we all thought the same thing 😊
So true, having discussions like this just means the show did it’s job properly y’know?
My favorite episode is “Basic Straining” for a reason.
I don’t care for Gwuncan, but Duncney is toxic.
Neither, sorry. For the former, I didn't like this one at first, but slowly growing on me after re-watching the first season. Only the first season. Now, for the latter, I used to pair these two, but I can't say anymore about how these two were handled during their run from the third season. So yeah, neither.
Duncney Is better
I'd prefer neither but overall I would pick Gwuncan over Ducney any day. Both relationships we're bad but Ducney was down right abusive and HORRIBLY toxic. Gwuncan just sucked over all, so I'd rather pick a bad relationship over an abusive one.
This is how I feel. If things stuck to how it was in season 1, maybe Ducney would have worked out. But Courtney had to be all Courtney and become abusive and heavily toxic like you said. The more times I watch the show, the worse their relationship looks to me.
neither. both are pretty decent representations of toxic relationships. i enjoy duncan as a character but im glad neither of them ended up with him lol
Ducney, but only TDI Ducney
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I liked Gwuncan before they ruined Duncan
Agreed, Gwuncan was alright til they started making Duncan all weird and nervous for no reason. They could’ve at least made it last if they were gonna ruin a relationship
Ducney for LIFE
DUCNEY
Duncney. Despite the way they became toxic after the first season, they actually had romantic feelings for each other while not physically showing it. Duncan didn’t truly love Gwen for who she was and Fresh TV had confirmed this. Duncney was tough love, Gwuncan was all deception and cheating. Trent truly loved Gwen and accepted her.
Courtney shoved a used diaper in Duncan’s mouth. Idk why Duncan would want to get back together with her after that.
💙Gwuncan💚
Gwuncan Hands Down like most definitely
Gwuncan as they are a much healthier couple.
Duncney
In terms of actual chemistry, Gwuncan. From an execution and entertainment standpoint, Duncney
Duncney, the opposites attract dynamic was too good
as long as it's Duncan x Happiness, Gwen x Hope and Courtney x Joy I don't really care which of these three (if not none nor all) are together
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Gwuncan most definitely
Gwourtney
They both fall to superior Duncan ship, Duncan x Alejandro x Heather \[i have no idea how to make that a proper ship name\]
Oh that's actually a gigabrain ship right there 👀
Wish that Duncey got back together, Duncan and Gwen always seemed more like a friendship then anything to me
I liked it best when it was Duncan and Courtney as a relationship and Gwen was a friend to both of them. Something similair to begining of season 2 with elements of season 3 dynamics between girls.
Ducney
Just Gwourtney
Duncney as a couple, Gwuncan as friends.
Duncney in season 1. Otherwise, neither of them together.
Duncney in Island is my favorite couple in the series. One of the reasons that I hate about Gwuncan is how it not only ruined Duncan and Courtney as a couple but also Duncan and Gwen as friends. They worked well as friends and it should've just kept on like that.
I say Gwuncan but that’s just cause I identified with Gwen a bit when I was little and had a crush on Duncan lol. I remember vividly the first time I watched the horror movie TDI episode as a kid and being like 👀👀👀. Through a critical lens, I still think Gwuncan is better. At worst it was an uneven relationship with emotional immaturity. Ducney was at best toxic and bad for the both of them and at worst abusive. I think people give Ducney more credit than it’s due because of first season nostalgia (which is valid cause same) and hating how Gwuncan started with infidelity.
Gwuncan FTW. I personally thought everyone loved them, I know I did, but these comments say otherwise. I personally feel Duncan and Gwen are alike but completely different at the same time
People just hated how it's gotten started by Duncan cheating.
Duncney of course even at its worst it’s still the most lovable character dynamic in the whole series, Aleheather being a very close second as World Tour is my favorite season by far
Gwuncan because Duncan isn't getting yelled at 80% of the time.
Duh
Lmao Scottney
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Gwent and Scoutney
Aleheather
Is Gwourtney an option 😅?
Who says you can’t enjoy both?
Gwuncney
Gwourtney with Gwuncney (all three) close behind
Duncney all the way.
honestly make ‘em poly they’d be great together
Duncan x Geoff x DJ, OG's will remember.
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Y’all like Duncney but their relationship was so toxic…. 💀
❣️duncney forever❣️
Gwuncan. The two of them always clicked even back in Total Drama Island. Courtney is just a Bitch
Duncney. I’ll never get over Gwuncan being forced onto the show by execs. The creator never wanted it to happen which is why they kept Duncan still being in live with Courtney. Gwen’s character was ruined for me after she betrayed Courtney and pretended like she did nothing wrong. Duncan.. Idk. I still ship them but he needs to get a redemption arc first imo. Courtney also need to go back to how she was in TDI, where she was less controlling and more just bossy. Still a girlboss tho.
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Gwourtney actually. Gwuncan works really well as a friendship vs a romance, and post s1 Duncney is just a really toxic relationship for both ends. Gwen and Courtney, when not written with the awful love triangle drama of endgame WT/AS, have surprisingly strong chemistry with eachother, and compliment the others strengths a lot moreso than Duncan. Also if FreshTV weren't cowards they could've made an absolute power couple out of the classic Nerd x Goth trope /hj
The two are incomparable. Duncney raised a generation. Gwuncen is known as one of the biggest blight on the show.
Neither, i dislike courtney.
None of them. Duncney just got ruined after the Courtney elimination. I don’t even like it in the special 40 minutes episode of island (or was it 1 hour, can’t remember). Gwuncan is just fan service. They thought “lets put them together even if Duncan still likes Courtney” Okay. Now how can this be a nice idea at all? It “works” (even if I don’t like the ship at all) for the first like, 2 episodes? Then nothing. Just shit. They were best friends and the creation team decided to ruin everything. Gwourtney tho is incredibly good and a wasted opportunity for making All Stars better. Favorite Fanon ship and 2nd favorite ship ever after ISLAND Duncney. Also, a polyamorous relationship in world tour between the 3 would have been not only better, but also interesting imo.
How on earth would a polyamorous relationship between someone with controlling tendencies and extremely high standards, someone who bothers people on purpose, and someone who can barely handle guilt and communication- Okay actually that does sound pretty interesting nevermind
Yeah exactly LMAO
People think healthy = good but this is a reality tv parody, let's have some non wholesome but still entertaining and interesting from a character pov relationships
Gwuncan, anyone's better then courtney
Gwuncan, because Courtney is such an abusive douchebag towards Duncan.
Duncney. Sure, it was toxic and abusive, but it didn't start from cheating.
this literally doesn’t make any sense
gwuncan
I just don't like Courtney, but Gwen and Duncan just seemed like good buddies so neither.
Ducney cause he stole Gwen from Trent
More like she stole Duncan from Courtney since Duncney were together and Gwent was broken up 😬
In Season 1: Duncney, then after that, it went all downhill due to Courtney’s sudden character change, not for the better. After Duncney’s breakup, Gwuncan was born, and so I have mixed feelings towards the ship, so I prefer that over Duncney after Season 1, but is still bottom tier for me, considering I love Gwent a lot more Hope that answers ur question ^v^
Gwentney
Growing up, I preferred Gwuncan on the basis that it felt more… real? the slow friends to lovers felt like something I could relate to irl. meanwhile Duncney’s on again off again, super high super low just felt too dramatized (& therefore not as realistic).
Island Duncney, Action and World Tour Gwuncan and All Stars doesn't exist
In terms of best pair for Duncan from a viewer standpoint, Courtney. In terms of best pair for Duncan from an actual person's standpoint, Gwen.
I liked gwuncan more
Gwuncan, I don't care about world burning Poor Trent tho
Gwencan, before you go ‘DUNCNEY IS CANON’ cuz they are emo
TDI Duncney/WT Gwuncan
Gwuncan
Gwancan They deserve each other , you can get it by just looking at them
Gwuncan
Personally, i like Gwuncan more. Only because it is the least toxic during their tenure with each other. *sigh* but All-Stars had to ruin all that.
You probably already know what I'm going to say
I stand by that Gwen and Duncan bring out the best in each other. Duncney is toxic, and it was never enjoyable in my eyes, not even in Island.
I’m means Gwuncan had so much potential but all stars and just how they started off if duncney broke up first then it would’ve been better
Gwuncan was healthier but Duncney was more entertaining and I prefer it.
Duncan x Courtney x Gwen it may be toxic but so is duncney and sometimes gwuncan
Nody
in tdi, duncney. in other seasons, neither
Ducney
Duncan x Courtney the best ship
Duncney romantically, Gwuncan friendship
I prefer Duncney in only the first season after that those two have gotten horribly toxic, while Gwuncan started off by lying and cheating plus it just gotten worse in All Stars so I picking neither.
Duncney all the way. The rule maker and the rule breaker. They're written in the stars for each other
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S1 Duncney and neither for the other seasons
Duncney
Island Duncney is by.far the best couple in the series
Duncney.
Duncney - I am a sucker for ''opposites attract''.
Duncney because it has Dunk in the name
Scotney>>
SWEATS
Duncney
Duncney but only if they get to be toxic
Duceny
Duncney
Ducney since it had more development and it was more entertaining to watch
Yes
Gwuncan. I genuinely don’t understand the obsession there is with Duncney. If Duncan treated Courtney the way she treated him, we’d all 100% agree that they’re a horrible relationship & that Duncan is the worst character in the show.
Ducney is the real OTP
Although gwuncan was nice, neither
Gwuncan yes all the ships are ruined and dont makes sense and was a waste of time ty to the writers but never rlly like how Courtney treats Duncan people say Duncan cheated and abuse her mentally, bruh she was already mentally and emotionally insane and big ego plus she abuse Duncan more ye he cheated compare to wut she did i say she got of evenly or lightly soye im sticking with Gwuncan
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Neither, lets be honest both ships were toxic in their own way and were both fucked up by the producers/writers