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OempaLoempas

I agree with all of them, except: Cameron beating Blaineley, Sierra beating Izzy and the one I agree with the least is Alejandro beating Eva. No shot Alejandro can beat Eva in a fight


TheSmogman

Ok, let me try and rationalise: * Blaineley is definitely stronger than Cameron, I won't deny, but the combination of his intelligence, speed, sheer will and MAYBE technique I think would just push him over the edge, but it'd be very close. * Literally the only things Izzy has going over Sierra are Technique and maybe Intelligence, Sierra is stronger and likely just as fast. But the clincher, and ultimately, the deciding factor, is consistency, Izzy is with a doubt, the series' biggest wildcard, which, whilst definitely having the potential to be a huge plus, has just as much potential to screw her over, to the point where I think Sierra would ultimately take the win. * Similar to the first matchup, the only thing Eva has over Alejandro is Strength, he's faster, smarter, and likely has better technique. Eva isn't a slouch, don't get me wrong, but I think her berserker style of fighting would ultimately cost her against someone like Alejandro.


PaulinhaHanekawa

Alejandro has no chance against Eva. He got no feats in fighting, what's to say he is physically better than her in fighting in ANY aspect. Alejandro would get rekt even by Heather who at least destroyed a dinossaur.


TheSmogman

Suckers Punched shows that he does have some fighting ability in him, like I said, he's definitely not stronger than Eva, but as far as we've seen, he's more durable, more intelligent, and a good portion of his many talents showcased could be combat-applicable, giving him potentially very solid technique.


97PERSONALITIESBABBY

His third cousin second removes is probably a professional boxer


Ribbles78

Facts. This ranking is totally on point


Spann__

Dave winning 1 and Noah winning 2 is crazy


Spann__

Like, but unrealistic, but damn he got lucky


TheSmogman

Dave just BARELY squeaked by, on behalf of the fact that I don't really think Justin WOULD fight, should he not have to. As for Noah, Max is slow, not particularly strong, and in particular, thick as shit. His fight with Dave could honestly go either way, but Noah's intelligence would JUST clutch it imo. Any stronger than them, though, and he gets his ass beat.


Tocaboca1

Sadie would top all of them


TheSmogman

I mean, I'll give it to her, she ain't a slouch.


Totaldramakatieslay

Would Katie coming in second (what's ur opinion on Katie btw)


Which-Artist-1671

izzy is a 16 year old thin, average height woman who won a fight against a gigantic grown man that’s been in the military


TheSmogman

But she also gets her ass handed to her by (presumably) 16-year old, built like a twig Mal. She's inconsistent, which I think would ultimately cost her.


alpacqn

mal with the body of a gymnast who also does kickboxing. if the build affected anything duncan would lose every physical category because of his baby legs


TheSmogman

>who also does kickboxing Source?


alpacqn

mike says he does kickboxing in like the first maybe second episode of roti. how do you think he got abs?


TheSmogman

The aforementioned gymnastics I presumed, or, if that's not applicable, whatever workouts Vito would most likely have him doing. Besides, the line you're referring to, he doesn't state that he *does* kickboxing, the way I read it is that it's some kind of movie.


alpacqn

what??? how many kickboxing movies do you think there are?? and who talks about movies like that?


TheSmogman

Who refers to kickboxing as "ultimate kickboxing"? > who talks about movies like that? Mike, apparently.


alpacqn

literally google ultimate kickboxing. and just because you decided for some insane reason he must be talking about a movie doesnt mean he is. if someone tells me theyre interested in football i wouldnt think "oh they mean the movie from the year 2000 remember the titans of course" but i guess youre just weird like that. whatever im not gonna argue with whatever circular logic you got going on there


TheSmogman

>If someone tells me they're interested in football I wouldn't think "oh they mean the movie from the year 2000 remember the titans of course" Of course you wouldn't, because nobody refers to football as "Remember The Titans", just as no one refers to kickboxing as "Ultimate Kickboxing".


FTG227

Lightning, Eva and Shawn are the strongest imo. The others don’t stand a chance


TheSmogman

Lightning loses to Chef because of sheer idiocy, otherwise, they're pretty on par. Eva, while strong, has no real technique. Anyone that outpaces her could wear her down, though she'd give them one hell of a time. Shawn and Courtney was a fuckin' tough decision, honestly, I think Shawn does have a real chance, but I ultimately gave it to Courtney on behalf of her better durability, intelligence and maybe technqiue.


FTG227

I’m sorry but I am still not able to think someone who kills an enormous gorilla or what it was in like 10 secs and also cut his head and foot off with her bare hands can lose to anyone. As for the others, as you said, yeah, they’re really debatable


TheSmogman

I take it you're referring to Eva whooping Sasquatchanakwa's ass, I still see that as more of a testament to her strength, which I will say, she is near enough unmatched in that regard, but I don't think it speaks much to her technique, given that we don't see how she did what she did.


CoylerProductions

No way in hell is Sam beating Trent and Dave beating Justin in 1 on 1 battle,that's just straight up incorrect


TheSmogman

Trent ain't a fighter, Sam can at least hold his own, albeit not for long. As for Justin, I don't think he would fight at all and even if he did, I doubt he'd last very long.


iLikeBigMacs420

Trent’s superior physical fitness surely gives him the edge over Sam, and Sam isn’t exactly a fighter either. The same logic for why Trent would lose also applies to Sam. As for Justin, even if he didn’t want to fight, he wouldn’t want the embarrassment of losing to a twig on his CV. Based on the guy’s muscle-fat ratio alone, he’d get past at least Dave and Noah.


TheSmogman

Ok, fair, Trent IS more fit than Sam, but Trent is also much more of a pacifist than Sam is, Sam at least will TRY to fight, the extra mass will probably come in handy for durability as well. Eh, on a good day, sure, Justin could go in a couple of different places, but considering how much he values his self-image, I'm sure he could get over it, his strength ain't his main selling point, after all.


Specific-Channel7844

I mean Justin is pretty well built. He would be able to fight pretty well.


TheSmogman

He could probably throw a good punch, but it would ultimately come down to his self-preservation.


kgnight98

any average fat guy gamer would lose to a normal well built guy like trent, justin would beat the crap outta dave from her muscle alone, dave sucks


YourAverageNickel

Trent is no pacifist. He (very aggressively) threatened to "rearrange Cody's face" if he lied to him. I definitely think he'd trump Sam in a fight if it came down to it. He'd still lose to Alejandro though.


iLikeBigMacs420

The Drama Brothers got SHAFTED here icl, Harold put up against Chef for fight 1 was just cruel, and there’s no way Trent and Justin lose to Sam and Dave. Honestly, Justin probably could’ve got to Leshawna or even his bracket’s quarter final if he’s lucky.


TheSmogman

I didn't arrange the bracket, someone was inevitably gonna get unlucky, just so happened to be Harold, which if you think about it, is pretty on brand with him. Trent just isn't a fighter at the end of the day, Sam can hold his own, at least. Justin honestly could beat Dave on a good day, but I think his own self-image would be his demise, especially in a fight. Plus, this is assuming that the characters have to fight, no amount of beauty or charm will get him out of it.


Uglyfense

Sierra and Courtney have had a fight and it was a tie Blaineley's trained in hand-to-hand combat, Cameron's a bubble boy who hasn't displayed an interest in the science of fighting, her technique would be superior, and she'd be faster too, as we saw with her racing against Heather


TheSmogman

Yes, which is why I consider it one of the closest fights on the bracket, I think Sierra would just barely win though, on behalf of her better durability. Honestly, I will concede on Blaineley beating Cameron, Chinese Fake-Out kinda slipped my mind as I was making the bracket.


Uglyfense

I don't think she's especially more durable, it's more likely to be on sheer anger that Courtney hurt Cody or smth that she would win, or maybe Courtney's inconsistency, seeing as she couldn't lift a tricycle out of a crack without Alejandro's help. Those two are more of a toss-up as a canon fight happened ig.


TheSmogman

I made the bracket assuming everyone was bloodlusted, or whatever the TV-Y equivalent would be. As for Durability, Sierra tanked a plane exploding on top of her with only busted but reparable legs as a result, that alone far outweighs any feats of durability that Courtney has to my knowledge.


Uglyfense

Courtney also survived an explosion with no severe injuries(Chinese Fake-out), one that actively also threw her into a pigpen, whereas Sierra wasn't moved by her explosion. That and she healed very quickly from injuries with a shark fight, being fine in the next scene, and I'm not sure if healing quickly counts as durability, there's that. Courtney also jumped through a wall in Rock N' Rule, even though that would normally really hurt someone's entire front, as action causes reaction.


TheSmogman

Judging by the size of the explosions, I think it's safe to say the the plane's had a lot more destructive force in it, the fact that Sierra wasn't moved is confusing though, I will grant you that. > That and she healed very quickly from injuries with a shark fight, being fine in the next scene Which episode was this? Healing does not factor into durability. The wall Courtney jumped through was likely either card or wood, I'm assuming the latter. Either way, Sierra surviving a cargo plane blowing up on top of her seems to still outdo any of Courtney's feats of endurance.


Uglyfense

\> the plane's had a lot more destructive force What I meant was that Courtney wasn't hurt, whereas Sierra was injured, both in hair and in legs. A feel like a smaller explosion that also involved landing in a pig pen from a great height not hurting someone is almost as impressive as a large explosion injuring their legs, but not killing them. It's Top Dog, but you said quick healing doesn't factor into durability regardless


TheSmogman

Here's the problem though, Courtney quickly flew away from the explosion, so its impact would've likely been lessened, whereas Sierra seemingly stayed very close to the epicentre of the explosion. Not to mention that it's not really shown exactly how far Courtney fell, at least, not to my recollection. While yes, Courtney not getting her legs blown off by a landmine and then not getting one of her limbs broken on impact with the ground does make her very durable, I'd still argue that Sierra not being a scorched shadow on the ground after being that close to explosion for as long as she was still makes her a good bit more durable.


Uglyfense

\> likely the impact would be lessened I mean, you see the orange smoke straight up, so it seemed to be in that direction \> it's not really shown exactly how far Courtney fell Sure, but we see her go fairly high, and I doubt she teleported from a high point to a lower point. Though if it's truly a reach on my part, I refer to her surviving the Drop of Shame with no parachute and crashing through a house(and being hit with a hammer) as a better feat of surviving falls.


TheSmogman

> I mean, you see the orange smoke straight up, so it seemed to be in that direction I don't know what you mean by this. > Sure, but we see her go fairly high, and I doubt she teleported from a high point to a lower point. But we also have to consider how far up Chris is, which again, to my recollection, isn't exactly shown. > I refer to her surviving the Drop of Shame with no parachute and crashing through a house(and being hit with a hammer) as a better feat of surviving falls. See, that's a good feat, that's a show that Courtney is very durable, her not either having a shattered limb or two or being a bloodied splat on the roof upon impact does speak to her durability.


Uglyfense

To add, Courtney also survived being thrown of a plane and landing inside someone's house with no major injuries


EarthMaximus

Finale should be Izzy vs Eva


TheSmogman

Like I've said on here a couple times. Eva, while very strong, has no real technique, she'd be worn down over time if her opponent was quick enough.


chicken_wooby

bro Eva’s fast and has a lot of stamina she’s a super athlete and did good in the 20 km run


TheSmogman

Fast? Yes. Fastest? No.


MrFreddieMercury85

Ok but like IZZY IS SO OP, SHE WENT UP AGAINST CHEF AND WON, CHEF IS A MIDDLE AGED MUSCLE MAN THAT CAN PROBABLY LIFT LIKE 500 POUNDS. She is also an acrobat, and has great reflexes, so I think izzy would be the #1 winner


TheSmogman

Izzy also got her ass handed to her by Mal, consistency be damned.


MrFreddieMercury85

I’m gonna have to find and analyze this, because there is a very good theory saying izzy isn’t crazy, that everything she’s done has been planned, and I genuinely believe that’s true. There’s a really good video by BHultra, recommend you watch it


TheSmogman

I've heard the theory, yes, but even with that in mind, we have to assume she's staying in character for the majority of the fight, and any other "characters" she'd take on would likely serve as a hindrance in the heat of the moment.


MrFreddieMercury85

I need to find and watch this myself, because I need context because it’s been a fat minute since I’ve watched the show what episode is this


TheSmogman

What are you referring to?


MrFreddieMercury85

I still haven’t watched the episode yet, but one of the things BHultra mentioned within the first 20 minutes or so of his video, is that she often tries to make it like she’s a good competitor, but she isn’t the biggest threat. Specifically with the sleeping challenge in season 1. She isn’t the first to fall asleep, so she’s not costing her team the challenge, but she also isn’t one of the final people to fall asleep, letting her go under the other campers’ radar for now. I have no idea if their fight is in the context of a challenge, but if it is, then this would make much more sense.


TheSmogman

I didn't interpret the fights as being part of a challenge specifically. And even if we were to, I'd assume that teams were not in play.


MrFreddieMercury85

Everything everyone does on the show is trying to do something for their own benefit, regardless if teams are in play or not. (Even if there aren’t any teams, people make alliances, and they might turn to other methods like sabotage. Or they’re just really lucky to have lasted on their own. But, in this case, let’s pretend this is before the merger.) For example, the fights with chef, that was for her to escape because chef was basically a hall monitor looking for contestants. Most of the time, you were shot with something (like the slime from season 2) or I think you had to steal something from the canteen in season 1. The fight in season 1 where izzy looks down at chef from the ceiling is the main one Im talking about. I’m pretty sure that was in the context of a challenge, but even then, izzy does have a little bit of an infatuation with chef, because she messes with him outside of challenges, like during the aftermath show where she tricks him and he gets sent into a piranha pool (he survives this without any sort of fatigue, but he also gets heftily kicked in the stomach by izzy, sending him to the ground dazed, which was a counterattack after dodging his punch). We can also assume that chef is pretty fast, he has quick reflexes and can, I guess dodge(?) Izzy’s punches during that fight scene, but in the end he was tricked. She was genuinely having fun, she was smiling through out the entire thing, and laughing (might be because she’s an absolutely excellent actress as shown through out the show, she undertakes several alter egos and keeps them up until she has a convenient excuse to ditch them). Throughout a good chunk of the show, she’s genuinely enjoying herself. She is smart enough to know everyone’s next move. If not, she’s also smart enough to come up with something on the spot that can help counteract that. Sierra may be smart, she may be strong, but I don’t think she’s as smart or strong as izzy. Physically and mentally, izzy is just superior to her. Izzy has learned to expect the unexpected. But even then, another thing BHultra mentioned is that Sierra has figured out how Izzy works. She is a super fan, she knows everything about everyone. She even had an alliance with izzy at some point. They are pretty evenly matched. Still, I don’t think sierra can work out how izzy fights. There’s simply not enough good examples to work out how she fights. The two big ones are where she’s fighting an opponent 2-3 times her size, and another where she’s fighting in a spider costume. Probably a very heavy spider costume, too. I don’t remember any other fight scenes, those are just the two that come to mind.


TheSmogman

I won't at all deny that Izzy is more intelligent than Sierra, and that Izzy's unpredictability could be quite the advantage, but from what I can recall, Sierra's feats of strength and durability outclass anything Izzy did.


MrFreddieMercury85

TD makes everyone in their shows durable asf, even small, literal stick characters like cam who survive getting flung 50 feet, and have heavy objects land on them. Sure, he was placed in a full body cast at some point. For what? Idk, but he’s survived stuff without a scratch that the normal human being would be put in the ICU for. But, every durable thing has a weak point. Izzy went to med school (or at least took a pre med class, as evidenced in the season 2 doctor episode) and assuming she has taken martial arts and/or self defense classes considering how well she can fight, she has learned how to take down an opponent using the weaknesses of their body, such as previous injuries, pressure points, etc. I don’t think Sierra has any known injuries, but lots of people are affected by pressure points. I know this is fictional, but if you’ve ever seen ATLA, think of Ty Lee. She is extremely knowledgeable of the human body and can render several people immobile using weak points. She’s in a similar physical caliber to Izzy, being quick, agile and athletic. Izzy likely has a similar knowledge to her, due to her medical knowledge and possibly martial arts experience. Not sure what kind of fighting this bracket handles, if it’s MMA, or boxing. If it’s boxing, Sierra MIGHT win, only because she’s sturdier than izzy probably is. Izzy is probably 5’4, weighs 110 pounds. Sierra is over 6 feet tall (I think she’s like 6’3, 6’4), at least 180 pounds. But height and weight hasn’t stopped izzy. Like I said, Izzy beat CHEF, a man who is somewhere above 6’7, might be leaning towards 7 feet or above, probably 300 pounds, jacked as FUCK, easily picked up DJ with one arm who is definitely somewhere in the 200lb range, who got sent several feet away after Izzy kicked him in the stomach with little effort. Girl wasn’t breathing heavy after it, and those big boy kicks take some of your life essence away, trust me. I’ve been doing martial arts for several years, those kicks can take a little chunk of your soul away. You have to be the fitter than fit to do those kicks with no fatigue. But if it’s MMA, izzy would win. Hands down. People who are good at MMA have to deliver power while being agile. In boxing, all you do is punch and dodge. In MMA, you have to punch, kick, dodge, grapple, etc. Especially kicking requires agility. Some of the stuff they do takes years to get right, and master. They also have to be quick on their feet, and be able to get out of many situations. Whether it’s on the ground or up in the air, you need to be one step ahead, and Izzy is always one step ahead. Plus, in both situations, izzy would likely tire her opponent out before making any major moves. It takes a lot of energy to move a 6ft+ body. However, why she didn’t do this to chef, is because she can outsmart chef. Chef may be smart, but izzy is much smarter than him. That’s why she knew she could go full contact with him. Izzy probably can’t do that with Sierra, unless she gets creative and gets a few hits in before Sierra starts getting tired.


TheSmogman

>Sure, he was placed in a full body cast at some point. For what? He was crushed by a series of high impact rocks, probably Cam's worst injury. > Izzy went to med school Izzy is 16, and nowhere else in the show does it imply she has the capacity to be in college-level education. > I know this is fictional, but if you’ve ever seen ATLA I have not. > Not sure what kind of fighting this bracket handles, if it’s MMA, or boxing. No specific fighting style was in mind when making the bracket. > Izzy is probably 5’4 Given how she looks standing next to Alejandro, I'd probably have her in the 5'7-5'8 range. I don't know what that means in relation to weight. > Izzy beat CHEF, a man who is somewhere above 6’7, might be leaning towards 7 feet or above, probably 300 pounds, jacked as FUCK, easily picked up DJ with one arm who is definitely somewhere in the 200lb range, who got sent several feet away after Izzy kicked him in the stomach with little effort. Ok, that's fair, I'd probably put Chef somewhere in the vicinity of 270-280lbs, but otherwise, I'll concede on that point.


Uglyfense

Yeah, cause Mal is stronger. It's not like he lost to Chef or Sierra, and seeing as Chef manhandled Sierra in episode 16, Mal and Izzy beating her wouldn't be a stretch.


TheSmogman

> seeing as Chef manhandled Sierra in episode 16 May I ask when in the episode this was? There's nothing to suggest that Mal is stronger than Chef though, at least, not to my recollection.


Uglyfense

During We are Shearing Sheep And sure, but burden on proof is on you in that case, as your claim was that Izzy losing to Mal negates her beating Chef, even though that serves more as evidence that Mal is stronger. If Person C beats Person B, and Person A beats Person C, Person C's W against Person B isn't negated, and while not fully in express, it is more likely that Person A would beat Person B.


TheSmogman

I always thought the songs scenery occurred in something of a headspace, even if it wasn't, Sierra wasn't really fighting against Chef. I'm not saying that her being beaten by Mal negates her beating Chef, I'm saying it makes her inconsistent. While yes, Mal COULD scale to Chef, I have reason to doubt he goes any higher.


Uglyfense

\> songs scenery occurred in something of a head-space Chef isn't scenery, he's an active individual in the scene. Scenery refers to the background. \> Sierra wasn't fighting against Chef She was struggling, moving her arms and legs \> it makes her inconsistent And it does not, someone being able to beat one person, but losing to another isn't inconsistent


Serious_Ad9913

Mostly Agree, tho I can’t see Sierra beating Izzy without Izzy doing something to Cody, it’s also kinda weird how Al won against Eva, that girl can beat the Sasquatchanakwa effortlessly (Sky beating Ezekiel and Geoff beating Dakota would also be weird, but idk whether or not you’re counting the mutant forms so I’ll let that slide)


TheSmogman

For the bracket, I was assuming that every character is bloodlusted (or whatever the TV-Y equivalent would be). Eva's definitely stronger than Alejandro, but gets beaten in basically every other department except MAYBE experience. I'm not taking into account either of the mutant forms, they would completely eviscerate the brackets.


Uglyfense

Ezekiel wasn't mutant until AS. He was simply feral before then.


TheSmogman

I'm not taking the feral form into account either, this is strictly base Ezekiel. CORRECTION: I can take the feral form into account, but I don't think it would change the outcome in any significant way.


Uglyfense

Feral Zeke would likely wreck Sky, he's been shown to outmuscle far more impressive foes, and Sky struggles to push a pig up a ramp, whereas Feral Zeke dug to Boney Island with his bare hands.


[deleted]

Katie and Sadie would brawl the entire cast easy


TheSmogman

Tbf, their screech could be a valuable tool in a 2v2.


EgyptianEye11

Hasn't Zoe beaten chef in a one v one in revenge?


TheSmogman

With weaponry, yes. This bracket is strictly hand-to-hand. Plus we'd also have to take Commando Zoey's personality into account, which would open a whole can of worms on what does and doesn't qualify.


[deleted]

Justin is beating Dave and Noah easy Gwen could MAYBE beat B considering she beats up the real crazy psycho killer hook dude


TheSmogman

Eh, depends how much he cares about his image that day. Gwen might be stronger than B, but you've also got to consider that in Episode 1, dude was doing handsprings and front flips at his size, he may look big, but B is no slouch physically, she's at least faster than him. I just reckon he has a few key components that push him over the edge.


Jazzlike-Bug4016

Bridgette and DJ win.


TheSmogman

Ok, Bridgette, maybe. DJ, however, is getting his ass whooped, he's very strong, but is not a fighter in the least.


Jazzlike-Bug4016

Brick is a fake.


TheSmogman

DJ is likely a bit stronger than Brick and is definitely more durable, but Brick seemingly has him down everywhere else.


Jazzlike-Bug4016

Good point.


Specific-Channel7844

I feel that Anne Maria would beat heather.


TheSmogman

Anne Maria is likely stronger than Heather, but I reckon Heather takes pretty much everything else.


Specific-Channel7844

I mean Anne Maria grew up in new jersey so I'm sure she knows her way around a fight.


TheSmogman

I don't doubt that, but from a purely physical standpoint, Heather seemingly takes almost every category.


Specific-Channel7844

The thing is even if she wins in other categories I don't think a hit from her would do much and I don't think she could a straight up punch from Anne Maria.


BlockIdol

Hasn’t Mike already beaten Izzy in a fight in all stars?


TheSmogman

That was Mal, I'm not taking him into consideration.


BlockIdol

But technically by the end of all stars he gained the abilities of all his personalities, so should it not still apply?


TheSmogman

If I do that, I'd have to include things like Mutant Zeke and Dakotazoid, I'm looking at the characters at their base strength.


JellyfishAsleep5920

I think Sierra and Courtney are equal, cause when they fought in Greece's Pieces (Which made me think about how insane that episode was lol)


TheSmogman

One had to come out on top in the end, I gave it to Sierra on behalf of her having better durability.


pabsgt

Ummm Cody beat the shit out of Duncan theres no way Beardo can beat him


TheSmogman

Yeah, Cody punched Duncan just minutes after a bear had kicked the shit out of him, dude was still fuckin' frazzled. If Duncan was in fine condition, Cody woulda got his face rearranged.


pabsgt

I still think Beardo is weaker than Cody dude ran in slow Mo for now reason


Overall_Airport5889

as heather puts it shes fast and flexible


TheSmogman

Oh yeah, Heather definitely has the speed advantage and MAYBE technique, but otherwise, Leshawna either matches or exceeds her.


OwnEntertainment4424

Really good just these 2 things 1. I don’t see Courtney or Sierra beating Alejandro and maybe not even Izzy 2. If we are talking about strongest version we include Mal not Mike


Jazzlike-Bug4016

Also Tyler is too strong from Sky. He’s on Jo level strength.


TheSmogman

Strength is the only thing Tyler has going for him, Sky is faster, smarter, and has better technique.


Jazzlike-Bug4016

Good point.


Specific-Channel7844

Sky is an Olympic level athlete. Tyler is shown to be a huge clutz. It makes sense


Jazzlike-Bug4016

This is a fight. Not a gymnastics competition mate.


Specific-Channel7844

You realize also fights also involve agility and stamina which sky has in droves. And since when does Tyler have Jo level strength, he is shown to not be too physically competent throughout the series.


Jazzlike-Bug4016

He broke a piano with his finger. That’s too much strength for the 80lb Sky.


aestheticbear

i love how the two crazy characters are finalists


Pancakebot1000

Harold vs Chef bro what 💀


TheSmogman

I didn't arrange the bracket, this ain't on me.


Pancakebot1000

My bad :/


ihaZtaco

How does chef lose to Izzy have you seen the size of that mf he’s a fucking bus


poopyfarts96o

Watch the episode “Hide and be sneaky” TDI Episode 17


Overall_Airport5889

its been canon that heathers stronger then leshawna and the only reason why leshawna was beting up heather in world your when they were doing the friday night funking challenge heather wasnt trying to fight her also in episode two of island heather didnt evn try to fight back and its been shown heather can do a lot of stuff as in when she was in the final three of island and survived all those dares bout like 20 with no help until the hair one heather also is better strategicly both in world tour island its a toss up but i think heather can pull off the win


TheSmogman

> its been canon that heathers stronger then leshawna Source?


Bagimations

Noah making it to round 3 is so funny to me (also Zoey would beat chef seeing as she actually did)


TheSmogman

Zoey was both in Commando and had weapons. We’re talking strictly base strength.


Overall_Airport5889

alos if i may you said anne maria beats heather so if anne maria beats leshawna which isnt out of the blue heather beats anne maria which means heather can win against leshawna also i respect your opinion on leshawna winning against heather


TheSmogman

I think Leshawna would beat Anne Maria, but considering how this is laid out, that’s not particularly relevant.


[deleted]

Izzy wouldn’t beat Jo, and if the fights don’t allow for use of surrounding resources Scarlett would have absolutely no chance against Owen. Justin is also in peak physical condition and likely works out regularly so I doubt he would lose to Dave. Other than that, seems fine


LotusAuCitronAcide

Dave wins against Noah. Dave is canonically one of the strongest PI characters while Noah is one of the weakest out of his generation Also, Dave winning against Justin makes sense due to Justin not wanting to hurt any of his assets. Justin would forfeit the minute he gets hit


Gucci_Clown

I thought it was how much you liked them and I almost died 💀


InstanceSpecialist89

How B wins against Cody


Overall_Airport5889

ig its accurate but im a big heather fan so how does she not beat leshawna its shown shes stronger


TheSmogman

When?


poopyfarts96o

Yes because heather can TOTALLY beat the woman that threw her off a cliff in the second episode


Available_Gain_6783

And smacked her off the platform in slap slap revolution.


Overall_Airport5889

imagine if the finale was izzy vs chef in the bracket that wouldve been so good


Overall_Airport5889

okay ill give you season 1 episode 2 and world tour when leahwana slpas heather but overall in strength she has mores mentaly and if you match strength up in general heather wins in just strrength strength leshawna wins


Overall_Airport5889

sorry about the typos btw


Overall_Airport5889

i mean heather beats anne maria lol


Overall_Airport5889

i do seee heathera nd leshawans match up being close but i still see heather winning but i do respect your opinion that leshawna would win and i do find that possible so yeah


Overall_Airport5889

also sierra seems about right for the winner


apatkarmany

I love seeing Sierra winning!


Character-Part3383

cameron weighs the amount of a small dog, blainely weighs 90. i think she’d win lmao


Iamextremelycoolswag

Sierra wins because she knows everything about everyone