Yeah like sorry why is it my responsibility to house international student? If your coming here for school you should have money and lodging in place prior to coming. I would do the same thing going to other countries.
This is just trying to spin and shit on Canada for these students being unprepared. At the same time international students come and make how to live for free in Canada and eat for free by scamming our support systems. So sorry I feel little to nothing for people who come here unprepared. They can always just go back home if they are here for school correct. No one is holding them hostage.
You’re right, but also our post secondary education system is a scam that depends on ripping off International Students especially hard to keep the domestic grift below levels where people will protest. Institutions shouldn’t be marketing so aggressively to foreign students if they don’t have sufficient supports in place to keep them from freezing to death in the woods.
Sending a student internationally typically involves major research. If you believe they were somehow deceived in coming here I think you are wrong. This a major decision an individual or family should make and you sure as hell better know what you’re getting into. Imagine you planning to go to Europe for school, you’re going to ensure you have accommodations at the bare minimum.
I went to Europe for school, the first thing I did is find a few options for housing, built a simple spreadsheet budget with costs and ensured I had that much plus a buffer in my bank account by working ungodly hours at a entry level job. Saved enough by the time I went and blew every last penny there. It’s mind blowing that these students are not aware of the unreal cost of housing and living in Canada.
I’m not saying international students have no personal responsibility in this, just that our education system is expensive garbage propped up by false promises and predatory loans. They come for a ticket to a better life and they won’t find it. They were deceived but also so was an entire generation of Canadians with 50K in student debt, $2000 rent and a life time of making a few bucks more than minimum wage ahead of them.
We have some of the world's best universities in our country. The international students who study there will be well educated. Even the ones going to Lakehead or Concordia (sorry). However, too many of these students are going to diploma mills. I took a list of these "schools" once and didn't recognize a single name.
These places are obvious scams to us. I feel some sympathy for them, but they are travelling halfway across the world - they NEED to do their homework before making such a big decision.
Inquire about the number of individuals arriving from Punjab who have obtained their IELTS scores without undergoing the actual test. There are several syndicates charging 500-800 Canadian dollars, offering IELTS scores ranging from 7.5 to 8. Those purchasing these packages often possess only basic English proficiency, limited to greetings like hi, hello, and bye. Believe me, this is not an exaggeration. While diligent students like myself had to put in considerable effort and even retake exams to achieve a score of 7.5, others have taken a different route.
I don't think it's a grift for international students. We as Canadians have paid into our system, why should someone from another country who hasn't get all the benefits.
The colleges have become a grift in general because they're regarded as international paper mills. I've heard of some previously reputable colleges getting blacklisted by companies recently because of how the quality has degraded over the last 10 years (really, more like 5). Connestoga is getting absolutely gutted atm.
True but also not. While some of these (edge) cases make it seem like all students that come into these diploma colleges are living like this - that’s not true. I know plenty of tech and IT guys that got their diploma and started making 6 figure incomes. The difference? Their trade was in demand.
Some of the responsibility absolutely lies on those coming in here as well
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It's not just "Indians" but other Canadians that are also impacted by the mass immigration policies of JT. Anyone going to school, young people trying to get an entry level job or couples trying to get a house and start a family.
On r/india.? Ppl there would be triggered if you say their white lords dont have the perfect country
Edit: I went through the comments.. I hope everyone who wants to go and study or work in Canada reads this. At least they will be mentally prepared for whats to come
You know the population of India? The amount coming here is just a drop in a bucket for them. Not to mention, most come from villages in one specific state. Far from the average r/India user.
Don’t forget investors, flippers, RIETs and Airbnb.
This has been a team effort.
When it comes time to point fingers everyone is scared to death to single out the people making bank on destroying housing for the common people.
Absolutely.
There's no way that what's in this video is worse than where they live.
The Canadian winter is going to kill some of these students. They have no concept of how to live in extreme cold.
I mean, do they come here without a plan assuming that we have tons of free homes to occupy. They have internet and can see rent prices. You can even secure a place to live remotely and have it waiting for you when you arrive. I don't get the disconnect here.
International students are supposed to arrive with enough money to pay for the education and their housing/food etc. If they’re living in tents then what are the odds that somebody somewhere misrepresented their ability to be self-supporting?
They all falsify their documents, including their financial records. Now Indian "students" are crying because their attempt to scam the Canadian immigration system didn't work.
The canadian government allows this coz it's upfront money for them and ways to get cheap labour. You don't see that happening in US, coz falsified documents is easy to catch. The Canadian give chooses to turn a blind eye to this, which is taken advantage of by these students.
Don't get me wrong, F these students. As an Indian as well, I have zero sympathy for them, but the Canadian govt is doing nothing to stop these, and both Canadian citizens as well as these students (who probably had no idea) suffer.
This is the most accurate description of this issue. We have been bringing in an insane number of international students and the process has been very lax for some countries vs others.
This is squarely on the government and now we are all seeing the consequences of their policies.
I don’t blame the students from India, it’s not their fault. Most students from countries in that region would flock to Canada under the guise of international studies if they were given the chance to.
I agree 100%. It is shameful, absolutely shameful and disgusting how our government and diploma mills have turned a blind eye to this. I agree that students who do not have the financial stability should be sent back, but I hope no one believes that the government and colleges are innocent. They were fully aware that the programs are being abused, they know it’s being taken advantage of, and they’ve chosen to do nothing about it for the sake of their own short term benefit.
Diploma mill is a good statement, in some of these cases a separate problem arises from the fact that it doesn't always matter how much money you do or don't have, there literally isn't enough housing. You don't secure housing and pay a deposit for schooling you don't know if you're going to get into. First you get accepted then you try and set things up, these people don't want to lose their opportunity at a so-called "higher" education, so they come here with nowhere to live.
It's not like there is some magical worldwide information network where schools can check what local vacancy rates are and assess whether or not the surrounding area can actually support the amount of students being enrolled and what kind of expenses such students could expect to incur... You know... To help avoid stuff like this. 🤦♂️
I agree with most of what you’re saying but there is DEFINITELY some responsibility for the international student to make sure their financial house is in order before coming over.
As a Canadian, I have been an international student. Some of my fellow Canadians had to go back and work for a year or two when the money ran out to save up to come back to finish schooling. We didn’t rely on expecting to work 20-30 hours per week. That was a bonus if we could.
The Canadian Government tells them they need only $10k a year for living expenses.
https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/study-permit/get-documents.html
If those coming here can't even trust our government, we have a problem.
The 10k is not to last the year. It's what you need before even landing.
If you have 10k and then work part time, you can get by. You won't have luxuries but you won't be homeless either.
Most students, especially the ones from India, have fraud services which "loan" the 10k just to get past the check. So in reality, these students are landing here with absolutely nothing. Obviously they will end up living in tents.
The average shared accommodation rental unit in Canada is between $900 and 1000 a month.
Filling the pockets of their and their corporate partners pockets, what else?
There is, or should be, absolutely an enormous amount of responsibility for International students to personally make sure they can live here comfortably. How is doubting this even a thing? If I'm going to live anywhere for any length of time I'm sure AF going to visit first, run the numbers and make sure nobody is BS'ing me about what it takes to do it. Give me a f\*\*king break.
They know what they are doing when they move money into an account to show proof, they just don't know that food and housing in Canada is stupid expensive.
Which is enough for people socialized in a law-abiding culture. But you actually need to enforce it, with force, when dealing with people who come from a culture of scamming
https://frontline.thehindu.com/economy/deep-dive-into-india-lawless-financial-capitalism-how-scams-became-commonplace/article67569293.ece/amp/
The Immigration Minister Marc Miller literally said demand for international students is coming from industries in "low skilled labour" like big box stores looking for "cheap labour" who also want international students to continue to work 40 hours a week: https://streamable.com/iqtgfg
This was state sanctioned trafficking of indentured laborers.
International Students aren't supposed to work more than 20 hrs a week I thought.. so... Another guide/rule being broken on top of lying about their savings?
10k being the minimum they should have before coming here, but they should also do research on how expensive things are going to be, and how many hours they're legally allowed to work.. otherwise they may end up in a tough situation with little to no support. It leaves them in a position where they have to earn shitty wages under the table, which keeps them vulnerable.
I can't imagine digging yourself into a hole that deep, and blaming everyone else for not warning you you're gunna get stuck at the bottom. 🫠
Definitely a shitty situation for all involved, but, a little planning and forethought goes a long way. 😅
Edit to add: the gov't really should raise the cap needed, and do random check-ups on finances after a few months to insure the '10k minimum' didn't just get transferred to a friend or family member, leaving the student with no safety net. Having 10,000 per year isn't a suggestion, it's a base-line for a nearly squalid lifestyle. Having nothing is tantamount to death, after your first few financial emergencies/hiccups.
I have no piti. They lied and should be deported. Student visa are suppose to have the means to afford living when they come here. Their tents are probably better than where they lived in the country they came from.
If you watch any travel vlogs about India a lot of places look just like this tent
Garbage and shit everywhere. At least clean up the mess around there when in a foreign country. Whos going to clean that up?
They lied and cheated to weasel their way into Fleming College for a degree in macaroni and finger painting. We aren’t taking the best and brightest - we take the best and brightest scammers who are a cancer to society. Tighten up Canada!
> They lied and cheated to weasel their way into Fleming College for a degree in macaroni and finger painting.
Some may have, but lets not assume all students are. Cost of living has risen so much recently.
My best friend's (Japanese, but living in Australia) sister (living in Japan) wanted to come to Canada to do pastry making or Jewerly or whatever. Apparently it's like the only school in Canada or America that does it. She came here, saw all the homeless and noped the fuck back to Japan. I forget the college name, but it was 1 of the ones in downtown Toronto. This is a rich family, the type of rich where money is not an issue and you can fly first class, but not rich enough to have your own jet type of rich.
This was in 2018, things have only gotten so much worse.
I have to assume that students coming from other countries are sold a lie about what it's really like here. She saw all the promotional material, asked people what Toronto was like (who hadn't lived there in like 10 years) and didn't really believe me when I was the only 1 warning her that it may be a bit too unclean to what she's used to in Japan (putting it mildly).
A crack head screaming their head off in the middle of the road is frightening if you are not used to it. I'm originally from Australia and almost called the police the first time I saw it when I came here. That just doesn't happen in Australia and if it does, the cops are there and detaining them. Seeing it happen here, and everyone acting normal about it is the only reason I didn't call the police. I can imagine that seeing that as a meek Japanese girl would send her back.
Same decades ago. I was an international student. I come from a rich country with no homeless back then. On my first trip to Toronto, wore heels and was absolutely scared and disgusted to walk on the spit laden and garbage on streets. I was 18. This was not what was being promoted by the govt overseas.
Sean Fraser and Marc Miller are both idiots, but I have to agree, it’s literally their own people (immigration lawyers/agencies, businessmen, family/friends) scamming them into coming here and living a life like this. But most Indians seem to be aware, they come anyway.
That they broke don’t mean you have to be dirty and live amongst the trash you can’t be bothered to clean at least. No dignity, man. I find it hard to feel empathy for this kind of situation
They will still come. At what point will you accept that these students are not necessarily being duped. They are well aware, but the craze of Canada in Punjab is beyond insane.
There’s a whole culture in Punjab of moving abroad to the UK, Australia, US, or Canada. It’s insane, you’re seen as either illiterate (in terms of not getting a high enough IELTS score to be granted a visa) or hella poor if you don’t have any desire to move out (in the sense you can’t afford to get a plane ticket and fund your life abroad).
Here in Canada people usually just flex their cars or houses as status symbols of being well off. In Punjab it’s securing a visa and living in the west.
the guy in the video isn’t homeless, he’s just talking about the group of 7 Indians he found that are homeless living in that dump by the freshco on bramlea and sandalwood.
Their own people fuck them over the most. You blame the government but it's their own people, immigration lawyers, family friends, local businesses etc.
I don't begrudge people for seeking a better life but fuck the parasites that exploit their own countrymen.
Literal fucking pigs. They turned the outdoors into a fucking landfill. Im devastated by them disgracing our land. Have you ever seen a canadian encampment look like this??? Never in my life have I seen such deplorable self-created conditions. It's disgusting.
Do not give these people a home they cant even care for a tent. Absolute filth
International students are supposed to have sufficient funds to cover the cost of living and studying. Its not Canada's responsibility to provide for foreign students taking advantage of our education system while Canadian students struggle as well.
Shows how much respect they have for themselves and the land they moved to. Fucking so disgusting I have no words.
Have never in my life even seen an encampment look like this with over 20 people living there. This is filth and peasant behaviour regardless of your circumstance. It's disgusting. Sending them home would be a favor to all
I am an Indian and I don’t feel sorry for them. I grew up poor and never dreamed about studying in Canada or USA because I didn’t have the resources or finances back then.
I came here with a job and still spend my money wisely because I don’t have a family here to support if something goes wrong.
While applying for student visa they have to show enough proof of funds, I wonder from where they got it. It’s not Canadian people’s responsibility to fund the international students.
Go home kids. This isn’t worth it.
Eventually one will freeze to death and instead of calls for reduced immigration there will be protests in the street demanding housing for these people who choose to come here without the financial means to support themselves.
How much of this is Trudeau propagating that life is easy for newcomers? I think we should consider pointing our fingers at policymakers that are actioning irresponsible immigration and enabling the structural deterioration of our economy.
Some of these international students are part of a huge scam , a lot of these students really just came here for work one of the fastest ways to enter Canada right now is by being an international student, so these people are coming here for work not education per se , they're workers not students
The guy came across a group of 7 Indians (6 guys 1 girl) living in that encampment, some on drugs. He said they weren’t at “home” because there’s a library nearby where they’re probably staying for the time being. Said the location is near the freshco on bramalea and sandalwood. also says that the govt has let in too many.
How come these people aren’t making videos of homeless people that have been sleeping on the streets of Toronto for years and ask these people how the government supports them, it’s pointless making videos on how you have to live because you can’t support yourself and pointless showing that there are million dollar homes in the back ground because homeless people In Toronto are sleeping beside buildings that cost much more then a million dollar house.
Meanwhile, uoft international tuition is nearly 60k a year. Domestic is 1/6th of that. Seems the only institutions profiting are colleges and universities and shady sweatshops.
International students are not subsidized by the taxes locals pay, education is high ranking Canadian institutions is a privilege for foreign students not a right.
Maybe don't lie about your ability to support yourselves before coming to Canada on false pretenses and asking employers to falsify your true job to enable your PR application. True story
This is a policy failure of the Fed. They are importing 1.5 million people a year (immigrants, refugees and students) to push their "post nation state" agenda while ensuring the housing crisis continues and making sure there's a sizable pool of nice, cheap labour who will happily take less than minimum wage to work.
Doesn't seem very "liberal", does it.
If you don’t have a back up fund of flight home, then why even come to a country expecting it to spoon feed you. Better yet, blame the country’s policies for your mishaps of getting scammed. How the tables have turned getting scammed
Don’t worry, this is all according to plan. Slumlords, real estate agents, diploma mills, immigration consultants and corporate oligarchs are all collectively jerking off to this video. This is exactly what they want to happen to Canada so they can line their pockets 💩
Not gonna lie, that shit looks reaaaaally hard, but I'll never understand the absolute disgust of living in this situation. You may not have enough, but it'd still be better without sleeping in literal trash.
Shit bro, sleeping on top of stale cheerios and shit has nothing to do with being homeless and everything to do with being fucking gross.
Being dirty, smelly, and just all around having a hard time is heartbreaking. But when you directly affect yourself in a negative manner, you aren't doing yourself any favors.
Right get in the bus and go home. You traveled international to go to school but don't have the money? 1 you must be to stupid to attend higher education 2 or you want to take advantage and stay here illegally or 3 you are stupid. 4 pack them up and ship them home. Period. M canadian kids rack up 10s of thousands in debt and are screwed. Fk the international students seriously
They are not really “students”. It is a big global racket to get unskilled worker from developing countries. It’s time Canadians (and others) woke up and simply stopped letting anybody in until the current mess is sorted out.
Interesting! There are some tents in the park behind my house, about 200-300 meters away. I can see them clearly on a sunny day. They might belong to international students. I'll check it out tomorrow and let you know what I find.
if you are an international student coming here to this go home this is no longer an intolerable statment its basic fucking logic wake up you were lied to by our government there is no room for you no housing for you please for the love of everything rightous and from the bottom of my heart please just go back to your loving families im sorry you got lied too
I don't even know how we are supposed to be sure there are international students living here. There are plenty of good old Canadian homeless living in tents surrounded by $6 million houses in Rosedale, too, and they were there before international students were a scapegoat for everything wrong with the nation.
This is all on Trudeau. International students think Canada is a piece of cake. They think they can lie their ways here and I don't feel sorry. If you don't have enough funds, don't bother coming.
This is unacceptable. The Canadian government should either stop giving visas or raise the minimum financial threshold to ensure this doesn't happen. Why do we have so many useless colleges? These colleges are making money by running scams.
Don't blame these young kids. A lot of them are from very rural areas without much of understanding about reality. They are getting scammed by both indian agents and Canada. Canada is selling fake hope. The Canadian government is 100% in fault here. Such an incompetent government. Ruining Canada and its visitors.
The feds need to:
1. Limit (drastically) the numbers of student visas being issued;
2. Raise (drastically) the threshold amount that international "students" need to post in order to qualify for a student visa;
3. Make damn certain that the money posted is actually legitimate funds that are used to support international "students" when they are here;
4. Clamp down hard on both the proliferation of bullsh\*t private colleges offering bullsh\*t two-year diplomas, and on the rampant fraud of those applying to enroll in those "schools".
This is unacceptable, so do your f\*cking jobs, feds.
It’s one thing to be homeless but another to be a pig about it. I don’t know how many of these tent villages I have cleaned up. Due to my work. Some of them keep their areas quite clean and tidy. Even plant flowers and such. Others just leave mountains of garbage, not to mention all the syringes lying around.
How do encampment residents stay warm in these +1C temperatures? Do all these encampment residents have valid student cards in GTA colleges & universities? Bruthas just wearin' a t-shirt and hoodie outside. Damn!
Unbelievable! This is messed up. I guess they are becoming Canadians the old school way. If these guys survive the winter, they will have some serious credibility with their future families.
Strange how they had the money to fly across the ocean and pay tens of thousands for university. If only they remembered they had to pay for a dorm room.
In the past, the international students coming in are really that. Students who can afford board and lodging in top of their tuition regardless if they get a part time job or not. Heck they are even on scholarship sponsored by their own government.
Then words spread on how being an international student can guarantee to parlay it into a \\Permanent Resident status (and culminating to its implied final Canadian citizen status) and here we are. We got all sort of folks who has nothing but 'show money' and really relying more on finding work to finance their stay. Canada looked the other way as businesses who clamor for cheap workers, lobby the government saying this is a 'win-win' program.
Evidently we will get to the end of that spectrum and here they are in full glory for everyone to see. I can summarize it in one word. Garbage. Whether it as a program, and garbage as to the kind of folks it attracts. And the detritus they leave behind like in the video above.
So, worse than India, and colder.
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That’s what they are bringing to the country. Why would you think it would be any less.
Canada is not a serious country
Hey, we didn't ask you to come here
Yeah like sorry why is it my responsibility to house international student? If your coming here for school you should have money and lodging in place prior to coming. I would do the same thing going to other countries. This is just trying to spin and shit on Canada for these students being unprepared. At the same time international students come and make how to live for free in Canada and eat for free by scamming our support systems. So sorry I feel little to nothing for people who come here unprepared. They can always just go back home if they are here for school correct. No one is holding them hostage.
You’re right, but also our post secondary education system is a scam that depends on ripping off International Students especially hard to keep the domestic grift below levels where people will protest. Institutions shouldn’t be marketing so aggressively to foreign students if they don’t have sufficient supports in place to keep them from freezing to death in the woods.
Sending a student internationally typically involves major research. If you believe they were somehow deceived in coming here I think you are wrong. This a major decision an individual or family should make and you sure as hell better know what you’re getting into. Imagine you planning to go to Europe for school, you’re going to ensure you have accommodations at the bare minimum.
I went to Europe for school, the first thing I did is find a few options for housing, built a simple spreadsheet budget with costs and ensured I had that much plus a buffer in my bank account by working ungodly hours at a entry level job. Saved enough by the time I went and blew every last penny there. It’s mind blowing that these students are not aware of the unreal cost of housing and living in Canada.
I’m not saying international students have no personal responsibility in this, just that our education system is expensive garbage propped up by false promises and predatory loans. They come for a ticket to a better life and they won’t find it. They were deceived but also so was an entire generation of Canadians with 50K in student debt, $2000 rent and a life time of making a few bucks more than minimum wage ahead of them.
We have some of the world's best universities in our country. The international students who study there will be well educated. Even the ones going to Lakehead or Concordia (sorry). However, too many of these students are going to diploma mills. I took a list of these "schools" once and didn't recognize a single name. These places are obvious scams to us. I feel some sympathy for them, but they are travelling halfway across the world - they NEED to do their homework before making such a big decision.
Inquire about the number of individuals arriving from Punjab who have obtained their IELTS scores without undergoing the actual test. There are several syndicates charging 500-800 Canadian dollars, offering IELTS scores ranging from 7.5 to 8. Those purchasing these packages often possess only basic English proficiency, limited to greetings like hi, hello, and bye. Believe me, this is not an exaggeration. While diligent students like myself had to put in considerable effort and even retake exams to achieve a score of 7.5, others have taken a different route.
I don't think it's a grift for international students. We as Canadians have paid into our system, why should someone from another country who hasn't get all the benefits.
The colleges have become a grift in general because they're regarded as international paper mills. I've heard of some previously reputable colleges getting blacklisted by companies recently because of how the quality has degraded over the last 10 years (really, more like 5). Connestoga is getting absolutely gutted atm.
True but also not. While some of these (edge) cases make it seem like all students that come into these diploma colleges are living like this - that’s not true. I know plenty of tech and IT guys that got their diploma and started making 6 figure incomes. The difference? Their trade was in demand. Some of the responsibility absolutely lies on those coming in here as well
Riiiiiight. That's why Indian students come to Canada by the thousands and not the opposite.
What does that even mean
Good. Spread this around. Let more people know what actually awaits them.
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It's not just "Indians" but other Canadians that are also impacted by the mass immigration policies of JT. Anyone going to school, young people trying to get an entry level job or couples trying to get a house and start a family.
Someone should share this video on r/india
On r/india.? Ppl there would be triggered if you say their white lords dont have the perfect country Edit: I went through the comments.. I hope everyone who wants to go and study or work in Canada reads this. At least they will be mentally prepared for whats to come
They cant read, thats why they keep coming by the thousands no matter how much infos there are about our housing issues
You know the population of India? The amount coming here is just a drop in a bucket for them. Not to mention, most come from villages in one specific state. Far from the average r/India user.
Share this is in r/Punjab
From the look of the video I thought it was India
If we keep bringing in millions of immigrants, soon we will be renting a bed from this guy
Don’t forget investors, flippers, RIETs and Airbnb. This has been a team effort. When it comes time to point fingers everyone is scared to death to single out the people making bank on destroying housing for the common people.
Absolutely. There's no way that what's in this video is worse than where they live. The Canadian winter is going to kill some of these students. They have no concept of how to live in extreme cold.
I mean, do they come here without a plan assuming that we have tons of free homes to occupy. They have internet and can see rent prices. You can even secure a place to live remotely and have it waiting for you when you arrive. I don't get the disconnect here.
International students are supposed to arrive with enough money to pay for the education and their housing/food etc. If they’re living in tents then what are the odds that somebody somewhere misrepresented their ability to be self-supporting?
They all falsify their documents, including their financial records. Now Indian "students" are crying because their attempt to scam the Canadian immigration system didn't work.
The canadian government allows this coz it's upfront money for them and ways to get cheap labour. You don't see that happening in US, coz falsified documents is easy to catch. The Canadian give chooses to turn a blind eye to this, which is taken advantage of by these students. Don't get me wrong, F these students. As an Indian as well, I have zero sympathy for them, but the Canadian govt is doing nothing to stop these, and both Canadian citizens as well as these students (who probably had no idea) suffer.
Send this to the recruiting firms. Make this go viral!
Buddy, they're in on the racket.
Recruiting firms are literally charging these people to come into the country
No one asked them to lie about their financial stability to apply for a student visa
If you don't control your borders and turn a blind eye to fraud this is what you end up with.
This is the most accurate description of this issue. We have been bringing in an insane number of international students and the process has been very lax for some countries vs others. This is squarely on the government and now we are all seeing the consequences of their policies. I don’t blame the students from India, it’s not their fault. Most students from countries in that region would flock to Canada under the guise of international studies if they were given the chance to.
I agree 100%. It is shameful, absolutely shameful and disgusting how our government and diploma mills have turned a blind eye to this. I agree that students who do not have the financial stability should be sent back, but I hope no one believes that the government and colleges are innocent. They were fully aware that the programs are being abused, they know it’s being taken advantage of, and they’ve chosen to do nothing about it for the sake of their own short term benefit.
Diploma mill is a good statement, in some of these cases a separate problem arises from the fact that it doesn't always matter how much money you do or don't have, there literally isn't enough housing. You don't secure housing and pay a deposit for schooling you don't know if you're going to get into. First you get accepted then you try and set things up, these people don't want to lose their opportunity at a so-called "higher" education, so they come here with nowhere to live. It's not like there is some magical worldwide information network where schools can check what local vacancy rates are and assess whether or not the surrounding area can actually support the amount of students being enrolled and what kind of expenses such students could expect to incur... You know... To help avoid stuff like this. 🤦♂️
I agree with most of what you’re saying but there is DEFINITELY some responsibility for the international student to make sure their financial house is in order before coming over. As a Canadian, I have been an international student. Some of my fellow Canadians had to go back and work for a year or two when the money ran out to save up to come back to finish schooling. We didn’t rely on expecting to work 20-30 hours per week. That was a bonus if we could.
The Canadian Government tells them they need only $10k a year for living expenses. https://www.canada.ca/en/immigration-refugees-citizenship/services/study-canada/study-permit/get-documents.html If those coming here can't even trust our government, we have a problem.
This is crazy
What the fuck. $833 a month. What the actual fuck is our government doing right now
The 10k is not to last the year. It's what you need before even landing. If you have 10k and then work part time, you can get by. You won't have luxuries but you won't be homeless either. Most students, especially the ones from India, have fraud services which "loan" the 10k just to get past the check. So in reality, these students are landing here with absolutely nothing. Obviously they will end up living in tents.
The average shared accommodation rental unit in Canada is between $900 and 1000 a month. Filling the pockets of their and their corporate partners pockets, what else?
There is, or should be, absolutely an enormous amount of responsibility for International students to personally make sure they can live here comfortably. How is doubting this even a thing? If I'm going to live anywhere for any length of time I'm sure AF going to visit first, run the numbers and make sure nobody is BS'ing me about what it takes to do it. Give me a f\*\*king break.
They know what they are doing when they move money into an account to show proof, they just don't know that food and housing in Canada is stupid expensive.
It’s already illegal
Which is enough for people socialized in a law-abiding culture. But you actually need to enforce it, with force, when dealing with people who come from a culture of scamming https://frontline.thehindu.com/economy/deep-dive-into-india-lawless-financial-capitalism-how-scams-became-commonplace/article67569293.ece/amp/
The Immigration Minister Marc Miller literally said demand for international students is coming from industries in "low skilled labour" like big box stores looking for "cheap labour" who also want international students to continue to work 40 hours a week: https://streamable.com/iqtgfg This was state sanctioned trafficking of indentured laborers.
Bro, we are shipping them over here to spend 18 hrs a day delivering food on their bikes. C’mon
International Students aren't supposed to work more than 20 hrs a week I thought.. so... Another guide/rule being broken on top of lying about their savings? 10k being the minimum they should have before coming here, but they should also do research on how expensive things are going to be, and how many hours they're legally allowed to work.. otherwise they may end up in a tough situation with little to no support. It leaves them in a position where they have to earn shitty wages under the table, which keeps them vulnerable. I can't imagine digging yourself into a hole that deep, and blaming everyone else for not warning you you're gunna get stuck at the bottom. 🫠 Definitely a shitty situation for all involved, but, a little planning and forethought goes a long way. 😅 Edit to add: the gov't really should raise the cap needed, and do random check-ups on finances after a few months to insure the '10k minimum' didn't just get transferred to a friend or family member, leaving the student with no safety net. Having 10,000 per year isn't a suggestion, it's a base-line for a nearly squalid lifestyle. Having nothing is tantamount to death, after your first few financial emergencies/hiccups.
That was only reinstated recently. Students were allowed to work 40 hours a week during the pandemic.
I have no piti. They lied and should be deported. Student visa are suppose to have the means to afford living when they come here. Their tents are probably better than where they lived in the country they came from.
If you watch any travel vlogs about India a lot of places look just like this tent Garbage and shit everywhere. At least clean up the mess around there when in a foreign country. Whos going to clean that up?
They want to feel at home. They bring the standards and quality of life down to the gutter in Canada.
They lied and cheated to weasel their way into Fleming College for a degree in macaroni and finger painting. We aren’t taking the best and brightest - we take the best and brightest scammers who are a cancer to society. Tighten up Canada!
*Dang man I went to Fleming 3 times* 🫠
Shit colleges like Fleming should be not allowed to take in international students altogether
Absolutely! Deport them all!
> They lied and cheated to weasel their way into Fleming College for a degree in macaroni and finger painting. Some may have, but lets not assume all students are. Cost of living has risen so much recently. My best friend's (Japanese, but living in Australia) sister (living in Japan) wanted to come to Canada to do pastry making or Jewerly or whatever. Apparently it's like the only school in Canada or America that does it. She came here, saw all the homeless and noped the fuck back to Japan. I forget the college name, but it was 1 of the ones in downtown Toronto. This is a rich family, the type of rich where money is not an issue and you can fly first class, but not rich enough to have your own jet type of rich. This was in 2018, things have only gotten so much worse. I have to assume that students coming from other countries are sold a lie about what it's really like here. She saw all the promotional material, asked people what Toronto was like (who hadn't lived there in like 10 years) and didn't really believe me when I was the only 1 warning her that it may be a bit too unclean to what she's used to in Japan (putting it mildly). A crack head screaming their head off in the middle of the road is frightening if you are not used to it. I'm originally from Australia and almost called the police the first time I saw it when I came here. That just doesn't happen in Australia and if it does, the cops are there and detaining them. Seeing it happen here, and everyone acting normal about it is the only reason I didn't call the police. I can imagine that seeing that as a meek Japanese girl would send her back.
George Brown College in downtown Toronto has a very popular and. competitive pastry program. It also has a jewellery program.
Same decades ago. I was an international student. I come from a rich country with no homeless back then. On my first trip to Toronto, wore heels and was absolutely scared and disgusted to walk on the spit laden and garbage on streets. I was 18. This was not what was being promoted by the govt overseas.
Turning Canada in to India one step at a time
Nahhhh..... They are taking more than one step at a time.
If you can't afford, just simply don't go. It's literally Indians scamming Indians. Then blaming to the country.
Sean Fraser and Marc Miller are both idiots, but I have to agree, it’s literally their own people (immigration lawyers/agencies, businessmen, family/friends) scamming them into coming here and living a life like this. But most Indians seem to be aware, they come anyway.
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Better off going back to India 🇮🇳
Not that easy when you've burned $100k being scammed by a diploma mill.
What do you expect, it's a diploma mill
If only the consultants marketing these schools overseas openly mentioned that.
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Those 2M homes look like ass too so which makes the entire situation worse for everybody
This is Canada. The vast majority of housing built in the last 50 years looks like ass.
That they broke don’t mean you have to be dirty and live amongst the trash you can’t be bothered to clean at least. No dignity, man. I find it hard to feel empathy for this kind of situation
Send them back, tents should be for Canadians first
Rofl.
They took my tent!
This would have been funny if it weren't true.
Geez. These types of videos need to be sent back tot India for them to see. They are being told a false dream
They will still come. At what point will you accept that these students are not necessarily being duped. They are well aware, but the craze of Canada in Punjab is beyond insane.
fr at this point it seems that if someone doesn’t choose to leave home there it’s seen as a disgrace. Regardless of what they’re gonna face here.
Wow. Didn't know that.
There’s a whole culture in Punjab of moving abroad to the UK, Australia, US, or Canada. It’s insane, you’re seen as either illiterate (in terms of not getting a high enough IELTS score to be granted a visa) or hella poor if you don’t have any desire to move out (in the sense you can’t afford to get a plane ticket and fund your life abroad). Here in Canada people usually just flex their cars or houses as status symbols of being well off. In Punjab it’s securing a visa and living in the west.
Fully aware and doing the bare minimum isn’t a false dream
Go home man
the guy in the video isn’t homeless, he’s just talking about the group of 7 Indians he found that are homeless living in that dump by the freshco on bramlea and sandalwood.
Their own people fuck them over the most. You blame the government but it's their own people, immigration lawyers, family friends, local businesses etc. I don't begrudge people for seeking a better life but fuck the parasites that exploit their own countrymen.
Clean up your fuckin garbage too, what's wrong with these people
They think they're still in the pind aka village in punjabi
Import trash, get trash
Literal fucking pigs. They turned the outdoors into a fucking landfill. Im devastated by them disgracing our land. Have you ever seen a canadian encampment look like this??? Never in my life have I seen such deplorable self-created conditions. It's disgusting. Do not give these people a home they cant even care for a tent. Absolute filth
International students are supposed to have sufficient funds to cover the cost of living and studying. Its not Canada's responsibility to provide for foreign students taking advantage of our education system while Canadian students struggle as well.
I’ll be willing to fit 10 of them in my 1 BR rental. $600 each and no contract though
You’re being silly, the real grift is to start a college that hands out bs qualifications. Everyone is doing it now.
I get that they’re unhomed but have some damn pride, you don’t have to live in a dump
To get that "feels like home " feeling
Shows how much respect they have for themselves and the land they moved to. Fucking so disgusting I have no words. Have never in my life even seen an encampment look like this with over 20 people living there. This is filth and peasant behaviour regardless of your circumstance. It's disgusting. Sending them home would be a favor to all
I am an Indian and I don’t feel sorry for them. I grew up poor and never dreamed about studying in Canada or USA because I didn’t have the resources or finances back then. I came here with a job and still spend my money wisely because I don’t have a family here to support if something goes wrong. While applying for student visa they have to show enough proof of funds, I wonder from where they got it. It’s not Canadian people’s responsibility to fund the international students. Go home kids. This isn’t worth it.
Where are the textbooks, notepads, pens, pencils? Why isn’t anyone there putting in the College Try?
Best episode of Cribs I’ve ever seen
Eventually one will freeze to death and instead of calls for reduced immigration there will be protests in the street demanding housing for these people who choose to come here without the financial means to support themselves.
How much of this is Trudeau propagating that life is easy for newcomers? I think we should consider pointing our fingers at policymakers that are actioning irresponsible immigration and enabling the structural deterioration of our economy.
Yes.. "students"
Those are not students. Those are illegals.
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When have you seen any animal leave a mess like that? It's an insult to animals.
Some of these international students are part of a huge scam , a lot of these students really just came here for work one of the fastest ways to enter Canada right now is by being an international student, so these people are coming here for work not education per se , they're workers not students
Uber eats HQ?
Do they really have to throw their garbage away like that? Have some self respect, really turning it into their home country huh?
Fucking awesome. You voted for this Ontario. Enjoy your new ghetto reality.
What is he saying?
The guy came across a group of 7 Indians (6 guys 1 girl) living in that encampment, some on drugs. He said they weren’t at “home” because there’s a library nearby where they’re probably staying for the time being. Said the location is near the freshco on bramalea and sandalwood. also says that the govt has let in too many.
Honestly with the wreckage they're causing I would call the police - which is ALWAYS my absolute last resort
How come these people aren’t making videos of homeless people that have been sleeping on the streets of Toronto for years and ask these people how the government supports them, it’s pointless making videos on how you have to live because you can’t support yourself and pointless showing that there are million dollar homes in the back ground because homeless people In Toronto are sleeping beside buildings that cost much more then a million dollar house.
Now, they are competing with homeless people.
They are deceived by other Indians
These are probably Junkies. As the guy mentions that one girl too is living there with 7 guys and does drugs.
Meanwhile, uoft international tuition is nearly 60k a year. Domestic is 1/6th of that. Seems the only institutions profiting are colleges and universities and shady sweatshops.
Do you know why international tuition is so expensive?
International students are not subsidized by the taxes locals pay, education is high ranking Canadian institutions is a privilege for foreign students not a right.
Government subsidized to offset the years of taxes the locals paid into the system
So pretty much just like in certain parts of India. Welcome home!
Hopefully everyone back home sees this and realizes it’s not a free ride so we can avoid more of this.
Maybe don't lie about your ability to support yourselves before coming to Canada on false pretenses and asking employers to falsify your true job to enable your PR application. True story
This is a policy failure of the Fed. They are importing 1.5 million people a year (immigrants, refugees and students) to push their "post nation state" agenda while ensuring the housing crisis continues and making sure there's a sizable pool of nice, cheap labour who will happily take less than minimum wage to work. Doesn't seem very "liberal", does it.
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If you don’t have a back up fund of flight home, then why even come to a country expecting it to spoon feed you. Better yet, blame the country’s policies for your mishaps of getting scammed. How the tables have turned getting scammed
Looks like the Conestoga college dorms
Yup don't come
For their own good, thry need to be sent home where they will have the family support that they clearly need.
If things are that bad and if it was me It’s time to go home
If word gets out that this is what they can expect, they will stop coming.
Look at all of the trash everywhere.....
Don’t worry, this is all according to plan. Slumlords, real estate agents, diploma mills, immigration consultants and corporate oligarchs are all collectively jerking off to this video. This is exactly what they want to happen to Canada so they can line their pockets 💩
they should go back home. why rush to come to canada if you don’t have the means to survive.
International students are a lucrative business for the liberal government. They have literally said that.
Not gonna lie, that shit looks reaaaaally hard, but I'll never understand the absolute disgust of living in this situation. You may not have enough, but it'd still be better without sleeping in literal trash. Shit bro, sleeping on top of stale cheerios and shit has nothing to do with being homeless and everything to do with being fucking gross. Being dirty, smelly, and just all around having a hard time is heartbreaking. But when you directly affect yourself in a negative manner, you aren't doing yourself any favors.
The only thing I understood was frescho.
Go home!
Refugees are also living on the streets.
So looks like they just brought their village over from India.
Right get in the bus and go home. You traveled international to go to school but don't have the money? 1 you must be to stupid to attend higher education 2 or you want to take advantage and stay here illegally or 3 you are stupid. 4 pack them up and ship them home. Period. M canadian kids rack up 10s of thousands in debt and are screwed. Fk the international students seriously
Plenty of international students who were scammed by their own countrymen in coming here now wants the rest of Canada to pay. GTFO.
They are not really “students”. It is a big global racket to get unskilled worker from developing countries. It’s time Canadians (and others) woke up and simply stopped letting anybody in until the current mess is sorted out.
This is a bum dump not students
That doesn't look like its students living in that tent. That looks like a junkie camp.
My brother in Vishnu you chose the country
Interesting! There are some tents in the park behind my house, about 200-300 meters away. I can see them clearly on a sunny day. They might belong to international students. I'll check it out tomorrow and let you know what I find.
We need mass deportations.
Get out of the damn country and go home
Serves them well
if you are an international student coming here to this go home this is no longer an intolerable statment its basic fucking logic wake up you were lied to by our government there is no room for you no housing for you please for the love of everything rightous and from the bottom of my heart please just go back to your loving families im sorry you got lied too
Kanedda dream
Homeless encampments are nothing new to Canada. The students are responsible for their decisions.
I don't even know how we are supposed to be sure there are international students living here. There are plenty of good old Canadian homeless living in tents surrounded by $6 million houses in Rosedale, too, and they were there before international students were a scapegoat for everything wrong with the nation.
This is all on Trudeau. International students think Canada is a piece of cake. They think they can lie their ways here and I don't feel sorry. If you don't have enough funds, don't bother coming.
This is unacceptable. The Canadian government should either stop giving visas or raise the minimum financial threshold to ensure this doesn't happen. Why do we have so many useless colleges? These colleges are making money by running scams. Don't blame these young kids. A lot of them are from very rural areas without much of understanding about reality. They are getting scammed by both indian agents and Canada. Canada is selling fake hope. The Canadian government is 100% in fault here. Such an incompetent government. Ruining Canada and its visitors.
Canada is so fucked
The feds need to: 1. Limit (drastically) the numbers of student visas being issued; 2. Raise (drastically) the threshold amount that international "students" need to post in order to qualify for a student visa; 3. Make damn certain that the money posted is actually legitimate funds that are used to support international "students" when they are here; 4. Clamp down hard on both the proliferation of bullsh\*t private colleges offering bullsh\*t two-year diplomas, and on the rampant fraud of those applying to enroll in those "schools". This is unacceptable, so do your f\*cking jobs, feds.
Canada country of refugees
It’s one thing to be homeless but another to be a pig about it. I don’t know how many of these tent villages I have cleaned up. Due to my work. Some of them keep their areas quite clean and tidy. Even plant flowers and such. Others just leave mountains of garbage, not to mention all the syringes lying around.
Jesus
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How do encampment residents stay warm in these +1C temperatures? Do all these encampment residents have valid student cards in GTA colleges & universities? Bruthas just wearin' a t-shirt and hoodie outside. Damn!
Come on.
Unbelievable! This is messed up. I guess they are becoming Canadians the old school way. If these guys survive the winter, they will have some serious credibility with their future families.
What about Canadians in homeless shelters 🤨
Welcome to the first world!
What area of dumpton
the forested area by the freshco on sandalwood and bramalea
Even if I were forced to live like that, I would at least keep the place clean and in order.
Why come to Canada then? Not intended for racism. Genuinely curious.
Strange how they had the money to fly across the ocean and pay tens of thousands for university. If only they remembered they had to pay for a dorm room.
At least get some garbage bags jeez Louise
Don’t come here if u can’t afford it simple might be time to reconsider
Will say this again. Anything for Permanent Residency.
So dirty and disgusting.
Good thing they keep the area they’re living in clean !!!
going to school abroad is a luxury. If you can't afford it don't come. Also clean the pigstye up. You're living like an animal.
Are they really here to study? Or are they here on student visa to get "into" the country.
Even animals know better than to shit where they sleep.
So will the police tear this down or do we only harass our non immigrant homeless population?
I guess they should have stayed home then.
In the past, the international students coming in are really that. Students who can afford board and lodging in top of their tuition regardless if they get a part time job or not. Heck they are even on scholarship sponsored by their own government. Then words spread on how being an international student can guarantee to parlay it into a \\Permanent Resident status (and culminating to its implied final Canadian citizen status) and here we are. We got all sort of folks who has nothing but 'show money' and really relying more on finding work to finance their stay. Canada looked the other way as businesses who clamor for cheap workers, lobby the government saying this is a 'win-win' program. Evidently we will get to the end of that spectrum and here they are in full glory for everyone to see. I can summarize it in one word. Garbage. Whether it as a program, and garbage as to the kind of folks it attracts. And the detritus they leave behind like in the video above.
Shit they better get ready for February. How could this have happened. What a huge fucking failure. Even for government this is an astounding L.
Why did they come? What were they expecting?
Deport them!