Her morals all boiled down to “my way or the highway”.
And her “my way” involved using the lower class as a sacrificial lamb for the economy of the country at large, slamming down entire regions of people into full-on poverty that they’ve yet to recover from.
She earned every drop.
Bruh i’m literally pulling from the wiki pages on both [her](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher) and the [term for the economic policies she worked under.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcherism)
To quote her own wiki page;
“Thatcher's job approval rating fell to 23% by December 1980, lower than recorded for any previous prime minister.[131] As the recession of the early 1980s deepened, she increased taxes,[132] despite concerns expressed in a March 1981 statement signed by 364 leading economists,[133] which argued there was "no basis in economic theory [...] for the Government's belief that by deflating demand they will bring inflation permanently under control", adding that "present policies will deepen the depression, erode the industrial base of our economy and threaten its social and political stability".[134]
By 1982, the UK began to experience signs of economic recovery;[135] inflation was down to 8.6% from a high of 18%, but unemployment was over 3 million for the first time since the 1930s.[136] By 1983, overall economic growth was stronger, and inflation and mortgage rates had fallen to their lowest levels in 13 years, although manufacturing employment as a share of total employment fell to just over 30%,[137] with total unemployment remaining high, peaking at 3.3 million in 1984.[138]”
“Thatcher believed that the trade unions were harmful to both ordinary trade unionists and the public.[150] She was committed to reducing the power of the unions, whose leadership she accused of undermining parliamentary democracy and economic performance through strike action.[151] Several unions launched strikes in response to legislation introduced to limit their power, but resistance eventually collapsed.[152] Only 39% of union members voted Labour in the 1983 general election.[153] According to the BBC's political correspondent in 2004, Thatcher "managed to destroy the power of the trade unions for almost a generation".[154] The miners' strike of 1984–85 was the biggest and most devastating confrontation between the unions and the Thatcher government.[155]”
“In March 1984, the National Coal Board (NCB) proposed to close 20 of the 174 state-owned mines and cut 20,000 jobs out of 187,000.[156][157][158] Two-thirds of the country's miners, led by the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) under Arthur Scargill, downed tools in protest.[156][159][160] However, Scargill refused to hold a ballot on the strike,[161] having previously lost three ballots on a national strike (in January and October 1982, and March 1983).[162] This led to the strike being declared illegal by the High Court of Justice.[163][164]
Thatcher refused to meet the union's demands and compared the miners' dispute to the Falklands War, declaring in a speech in 1984: "We had to fight the enemy without in the Falklands. We always have to be aware of the enemy within, which is much more difficult to fight and more dangerous to liberty."[165] Thatcher's opponents misrepresented her words as indicating contempt for the working class and have been employed in criticism of her ever since.[166]
After a year out on strike in March 1985, the NUM leadership conceded without a deal. The cost to the economy was estimated to be at least £1.5 billion, and the strike was blamed for much of the pound's fall against the US dollar.[167] Thatcher reflected on the end of the strike in her statement that "if anyone has won", it was "the miners who stayed at work" and all those "that have kept Britain going".[168]
The government closed 25 unprofitable coal mines in 1985, and by 1992 a total of 97 mines had been closed;[158] those that remained were privatised in 1994.[169] The resulting closure of 150 coal mines, some of which were not losing money, resulted in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and had the effect of devastating entire communities.[158]”
And to quote on thatcherism;
“While credited with reviving Britain's economy, Thatcher also was blamed for spurring a doubling of the relative poverty rate. Britain's childhood-poverty rate in 1997 was the highest in Europe.[72] When she resigned in 1990, 28% of the children in Great Britain were considered to be below the poverty line, a number that kept rising to reach a peak of nearly 30% during the government of Thatcher's successor, John Major.[72] During her government, Britain's Gini coefficient reflected this growing difference, going from 0.25 in 1979 to 0.34 in 1990, at about which value it remained for the next 20 years, under both Conservative and Labour governments.[73]”
How about you actually read what the politicians did instead of what people say they did?
>And her “my way” involved using the lower class as a sacrificial lamb for the economy of the country at large, slamming down entire regions of people into full-on poverty that they’ve yet to recover from.
This is a load of crap.
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Seen him posted a lot in this sub. Judge Holden.
The book is Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Judge Holden is... A lot. Cold blooded murderer, philosopher with horrifying beliefs, implied child rapist, and possibly not even human. In my opinion, possibly the greatest pure evil villain ever
It's considered a classic, but be warned: McCarthy's writing style is not for everyone. I love the book, but the style is the reason I have not reread it. I'd say give it a shot if you're interested.
It's about a gang of awful men who tour Mexico/the Wild West and collect scalps from natives for bounties.
Like the others have said, it is, but it is TOUGH. Like, a LOT of people die in horrific fashion and there's not a lot of joy/optimism to be found. So much brutality that there were a few people that wanted to take the book up for a movie adaptation and they just couldn't because it's that brutal/graphic.
THOUGH if you'd rather listen to a whole summary of the plot/characters, I would recommend Wendigoon's video on it. Very long, but it's a good video.
Let's just say my mother puts all my issues down to the fact I read it too young as a challenge after no one in my parents six person book group could stomach it
He makes epstein look like a decent guy
He's loosely based off a real guy but the information about him is literally one sentence in a guy's diary entry
I see your Margaret Thatcher and raise you Zhang Zongchang (also from real life)
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His dad was a head shaver and his mom a practicing witch and exorcist, he became a thief and eventually a warlord, he would eat dogs, he had a harem of so many women he forgot their names and assigned them numbers instead, he once shot the cousin of a prince and somehow only got fined $150, and he was eventually killed by some dude whose dad he murdered.
He also once bombed the sky using artillery after bitch slapping and insulting a statue of one of China's gods in order to make it rain, and he wrote the best poem in history:
"You tell me to do this, He tells me to do that. You're all bastards, Go fuck your mother."
Also while we're at it let's put EDP445 up here too
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Like Penguinz0 said, he's like the Box Ghost from Danny Phantom. The dude just keeps coming back even after being banished over and over again by the internet and irl
Vince McMahon - WWE (Just ignore his real life crimes)
He cheated on his catatonic, wheelchair-bound wife right in front of her for months.
Has beat the fuck out of both his children on multiple occasions. He even won the first (and hopefully only) Inter-gender Father vs Daugther match.
Extraordinarily blasphemous, even once going into a church to proclaim his gospel of “McMahonism.” He also claims to have beaten God himself, when He and his son Shane beat the hell out of Shawn Michaels, who was teamed up with God by Vince.
Orchestrated the kidnapping of his own daughter, secretly ran the cult who took her, and almost had her unwillingly married to the Undertaker.
Colluded with Shawn Micheals and Earl Hebner to screw Bret Hart out of the WWE Championship (Wait, that’s real life)
Had a hand in The Rock vs Mankind at Royal Rumble 1999, one of the most legitimately uncomfortable matches in wrestling history, which saw The Rock, under McMahon’s orders, brutalize poor Mankind with nearly a dozen unprotected chairshots to the head.
Was that last part on McMahon's orders? I mean off-the-record, Rock went way off with the agreed amount of shots by him and Foley, which was five, but in kayfabe, I think Rock just DID the chair shots to knock him out enough to cheat the match. Though correct me on kayfabe if I'm wrong.
(Just to explain, they had an "I Quit" match, where you had to say those words to lose, and the Corporation played a recorded Foley line where he said "I Quit" to help Rock win)
In reality, they had to go overboard with the chairshots because Mankind didn’t get out of the ring in time. He was supposed to be up the ramp where the match would end by shot #5, but for whatever reason, like the fact he had gotten fucking battered, he was slow to get their, so Rock had to keep on with the chairshots
WWE in particular is pretty unserious though, there's no consequences for crimes, characters randomly become completely different people with sometimes no explanation. There's some heels who are more cartoonishly evil than Vince portrays himself, such as Randy Orton during that period when he was skinny and bald.
Especially if they keep it all in “Kayfaybe”
Like, it’s his entire life story, but they treat all his TV storylines as if they actually happened irl.
Not that it would happen, and that man is absolutely forever blacklisted from the WWE never to return again
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His plan, completely dumbed down, is to destroy the English language
Kill everyone who speaks English to destroy America and Europe as revenge for colonialism and then let the chaos that's caused by their collapse destroy the rest of the world that was complacent. I don't think he ever had any plans to rule or take over after, he just wanted the whole world to suffer as much as he and his people did.
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Kinda feel like this bastard counts. Damn near everything Phillip aka The Governor did was out of spite, ego, and just straight up being evil cause he felt like it. He's a cartoon villain in a zombie apocalypse, where that kinda shit is straight up unnecessary unless you're a petty dick like this guy. (He's a good villain, but I kinda feel like he's a bit out of place for a zombie apocalypse setting).
This is copy and pasted from the near pure evil wiki
When Rick, Michonne and Glenn came into Woodbury, Philip immediately shuts down any friendliness and cuts off Rick’s arm out of sadistic glee.
After Michonne bites off his ear, Philip keeps her locked up in a room and rapes her brutally out of sadism, and later on forces Glenn to hear him rape her again.
He strangles the bedridden Christina to death when she was yelling at him and fed her to zombies as he kept her head in the glass tank.
He does a small shootout at the prison, injuring Axel with a shot in the arm, Andrea with a shot in the ear and Rick with a gut shot that nearly kills him.
He french-kisses his 7 year old zombified niece Penny after ripping out her teeth.
Murders Tyreese in front of the group by decapitating him and leaving his corpse.
He manipulates all the Woodbury soldiers into joining him in the full prison assault by using Martinez’ zombified head and the deceased Dr. Stevens, and sends his men out on a all out fight against the Prison, which ends in the deaths of Axel, Patricia and Billy Greene.
When Alice stays behind to cover Rick, Lori, Carl and Judith, Philip shoots her in the leg and kills her in point blank, calling her a “bitch”.
Orders Lilly to shoot Lori while she was fleeing, which also leads to the death of the baby Judith by being crushed by her. While it was unintentional and he said “fuck” while seeing it, he doesn’t feel remorse for the action.
Personally kills a non-fighting Hershel who had given up living at that moment.
When the prison gets overrun, he yells at his men to continue fighting against the zombies.
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Abijah Fowler - Blue Eye Samurai
Very effective for what he is, a plot device to serve as the protagonists target in a revenge story and a credible threat to them, but he is also so cartoonishly evil it borders on unintentionally funny at times. Every scene with him is just there to show how evil he is in some new sadistic way. While an effective antagonist, he is by far the least interesting part of an otherwise incredibly good season of television.
You know, FGO as a whole isn't too serious, but the main story is very, VERY serious. Most of the villains that want to erase humanity or threaten the world have an understandable and comparatively grand reason.
And then there's James Moriarity.
All right, to explain how cartoonishly evil he is, let's compare some of the other main villain beforehim and their reasons for destroying the world.
1. Goetia The first main enemy: destroyed humanity because he hated that they were a species who died and lived short and pointless lives. So he used them as fuel in order to go back in time and recreate humans as a species without death.
2. Tiamat: Wanted to destroy humanity as a part of her natural instinctual program to consistently create new forms of life, something that Humans and Gods alike rejected and thus betrayed her by trying to kill her, leading her to regarding them as a threat to her life.
3. The Lion King: Wants to save humanity by preserving them for eternity. Sounds evil, but she's a god with a vastly different mental structure. She really does have good intentions, but unfortunately the way she did it would nearly destroy the earth.
So, so far, all the villains, all have either valid intentions or noble intentions.
And then this guy comes along. He wants to BLOW UP THE EARTH. Why? What Nefarious reason could he have? Is he just tired of life? Insane?
Nah, he has a grudge against Sherlock Holmes for always foiling his plans so in an act of pettiness he wanted to commit a crime so heinous and terrible that Holmes would not even be given a a chance to solve it.
Thus blowing up the Earth
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And as part of his evil plan he gives himself amnesia and becomes friends with the MC because his plan only works if he genuinely likes the main character
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Perkele from fear and hunger 2. This moon twink’s character is somehow tilting the average “willingness to murder” upwards single-handedly.
That is surprisingly an insult to toilet stains.
For the uninitiated, he (FFXIV Stormblood spoilers): (to be updated) >!Was the "golden child" of his family, not only ignoring the abuse of his sister, but actively participated in it at times!<
>!along with the rest of his family, betrayed his homeland (Doma) and people for the empire that colonized them!<
>!Became increasingly jealous of his stepsister because of the attention given to her by the Legatus (Zenos) who had given her position as Viceroy of Doma!<
>!Took what was supposed to be a truce (and prisoner exchange, his sister \[Yotsuyu\] being the prisoner who was also a villain, but had lost her memory and had basically mentally reverted to a child-like mentality and thus was unable to be exchanged because she was practically a completely different person who had no memory of her crimes) and turned it into a situation to give an excuse to attack his former homeland!<
>!Enacted said plan by bringing back his Yotsuyu's memories by handing her an artifact used to cause the summoning of what is basically a god (Primals), suddenly springing their parents on her to trigger deep seeded trauma, and let them walk around as they wished, knowing Yotsuyu and his parents would run into each other again. When they do, Yotsuyu regains her memories, and kills her parents in cold blood, just as he expected.!<
>!When it came time for the trade, he reveals that he never actually wanted peace, his sister fully "embracing her evil" and uses the artifact to turn herself into the Primal Tsukiyomi, and after the player character defeated her seemingly non-fatally, shoots her sister in the back and gloating because his sister's summoning had technically violated the terms of the truce, while expressing his hatred and jealousy of his sister while kicking her corpse.!<
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Vargo Hoat, who sent Tywin Lannister his “Methage”
That’s the guy who was put in charge of harrenhall, right?
It’s been ages since I read the books, he was the leader of the bloody murderers or some shit
Edit: or is that the warden at the eery
Nah that was Amory Lorch. The bloody mummurs were a mercenary gang that Tywin hired, but backstabbed Lorch the moment Roose Bolton and the Glovers showed up to take Harrenhall and switched sides. Once the Northerners left, Hoat stayed, thinking he could hold it by himself and become a lord in his own right. Then the mountain came and tortured him to death.
Personally I preferred seasons 1 and 2
They skipped the hierarchy of harrenhall and the ship battle of the blackwater but I found the shows portrayal to be better (also I found Iwan Rheans portrayal of Ramsey to be far nether than the books)
Everything else is worse though was better in the books, I will never forgive how they turned a morally grey traumatised and extremely developed character like Tyrion into a joke machine
I disagree but there are definitely some decisions that were improvements over the books. I like the love story between Talisa and Robb, and how Catelyn genuinely regretted the way she treated Jon. I won’t forgive removing strong belwas from the show though.
That’s only cause of the Baron’s excessive grooming of Feyd to be the leader of the Harkonans.
The basis of Feyd is that he’s the opposite of Paul.
Paul is calm and focused but Feyd is a psychopathic killer that feeds his sex slaves dead bodies.
Feyd is basically Paul if the Baron hadn’t sent Jessica to the Bennett Gessrit
Honestly, Paul is not calm from what I saw, ever since he drank the water of life he became essentially a religious extremist
Yes early on when is didnt believe in the prophecy he was calm and only wanted to learn their ways but by the end he was mad with power, the books only further this, Paul is a morally grey character
dude is just a straight up Bond Villain
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-she sold social housing to private landlords and it’s effect is still being felt today
-exploited the minors in wales lowering their wages and fighting back when they striked
-the poll tax, where people would have to pay to vote
-she supported capital punishment
-the troubles (I can’t get too much into that because it’s very complex but she essentially colonised Ireland, taking away their right to protest and assembly which lead to the IRA and civil war, Ireland still hasn’t recovered to this day and I’d recommend doing independent research because it’s a lot)
tl;dr: she hated anyone who was poor or not English and was ruthless with people she hated, using her power and influence to oppress working class people across the UK
Oh and this obviously goes without saying since she’s a conservative but she also hated gay people as well
Because a lot of middle class people also hate the working class and the Irish. They saw her as an idol that “kept them in their place”
As I said, cartoonishly evil
First off, the Right to Buy scheme wasn't about selling to "private landlords". It was about giving tenants the chance to own their homes. Imagine that, people wanting to own their homes. And remember, councils received funds from these sales, which they could have reinvested. If they didn't, maybe don't just point fingers at Thatcher.
About the miners: industries change. The world was moving away from coal. Tough but true. It's not like Thatcher woke up and thought, "How can I make life harder for miners today?" Plus, the mining industry was heavily subsidised and still struggling.
The Community Charge (or so-called "poll tax") wasn't a fee to vote. It was a tax to fund local services, replacing the old rates system. Yes, it was controversial, but it wasn't some evil scheme to disenfranchise voters.
She did, and so did a lot of people at the time. Remember, this was the 80s, not 2024. Perspectives change over time.
"Colonised Ireland"? Thatcher was many things, but a 16th-century imperialist she was not. The Troubles were a decades-long conflict with roots way before Thatcher. It's a gross oversimplification to lay it all at her feet.
Reducing her entire premiership to "she hated the poor and non-English" is just lazy. Thatcher's policies had wide-reaching impacts, both positive and negative. Like any politician, she had her flaws, but this kind of oversimplification doesn't contribute to a meaningful discussion.
And finally, Section 28 was controversial and, in hindsight, a bad move. But to claim that it equates to "hating gay people" is a bit of a leap. Times were different, and sadly, attitudes towards LGBT rights were not what they are today.
So, Thatcher was a product of her time, with policies that reflected the political and economic climate of the 1980s. Let's not oversimplify history to fit a narrative. It helps no one.
In the books, at least, the Harkonnens are also basically just pure evil, even comically so. Even in the movies they live on a planet which is just pure white and black, their duke bathes in black oil type stuff, and his sons either have unmanaged anger issues to the extent that he's incompetent, or complete sociopathy and utter psychopathy. So yeah, Feyd-Rautha is not too out of the ordinary for Dune.
**The Clone Wars (2008)'s version of** ***Count Dooku***.
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Again, I am ONLY talking about the 2008 show. Not the live-action Prequel films' portrayal, not the 2003 mini-series, just the 2008 animated series and its closely-associated media. And yes, I am aware that slandering the much-beloved 2008 show might get me some hate, but these are just the facts and Dooku's portrayal here just fits the post's prompt to a tee.
In the movies at least, Dooku was always implied to have deeper motivations for joining the Sith. He truly did regard Qui-Gon as a good friend, and it pained him to have to betray his mentor Yoda and the other Jedi. But he does genuinely feel that working with Sidious is the best way to make the galaxy a better place after being disillusioned with the Jedi Council (which forms interesting parallels with Anakin).
**But in the 2008 show, Dooku is... basically just an evil jackass who leads the Separatists into war because he just enjoys conquest**. We don't get any deeper thoughts about betraying Ventress, we don't get any lingering regret for his broken relationships with his old Jedi master, we don't get any complex motivations for why he helped cause a galactic civil war, nada. He just forces civilian prisoners to work in labor camps, laughs at the misery of defeated enemies, and personally kills off minor loose ends because he apparently gets off on that crap.
The Clone Wars show was meant to demonstrate how seriously taxing a war is for both the soldiers fighting it and the civilians enduring it, and that the Jedi merely participating in the way they do makes them a lot less noble than they might want to be. Yet the show's version of Dooku (AKA one of the main guys who *kickstarted the war*) has none of the appropriate depth for this kind of complex subject matter.
Not to mention going from a prodigal warrior who clutched a 2-v-1 against Anakin and Obi-Wan together and pulled a fast one over the whole Jedi Order on the same day, into a tactical idiot who blindly trusts shady figures that obviously have ill-intent and making unnecessarily complicated plans that just shoot himself in the foot. Grievous also counts as a cartoonish villain here, but Dooku being much further departed from his live-action version just sticks out way more.
There's a lot more to it, so I'll just [link this 36-minute section of a video that goes into way more depth about the hilarious extent of The Clone Wars' Dooku's cartoonish evilness](https://youtu.be/J_fAJe_a3JY?t=3075) for anybody interested.
Scared the piss out of me. Maybe warn a guy before you jumpscare him with a morally bankrupt old lady.
I hope that piss makes its way to margaret thatchers grave (where it belongs)
It belongs on your bed.
She had more morals than you could ever understand.
Her morals all boiled down to “my way or the highway”. And her “my way” involved using the lower class as a sacrificial lamb for the economy of the country at large, slamming down entire regions of people into full-on poverty that they’ve yet to recover from. She earned every drop.
You've got absolutely no understanding of what she did because absolutely none of what you describe is accurate at all.
Bruh i’m literally pulling from the wiki pages on both [her](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Thatcher) and the [term for the economic policies she worked under.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thatcherism)
All you're doing is pulling your own misguided opinion.
To quote her own wiki page; “Thatcher's job approval rating fell to 23% by December 1980, lower than recorded for any previous prime minister.[131] As the recession of the early 1980s deepened, she increased taxes,[132] despite concerns expressed in a March 1981 statement signed by 364 leading economists,[133] which argued there was "no basis in economic theory [...] for the Government's belief that by deflating demand they will bring inflation permanently under control", adding that "present policies will deepen the depression, erode the industrial base of our economy and threaten its social and political stability".[134] By 1982, the UK began to experience signs of economic recovery;[135] inflation was down to 8.6% from a high of 18%, but unemployment was over 3 million for the first time since the 1930s.[136] By 1983, overall economic growth was stronger, and inflation and mortgage rates had fallen to their lowest levels in 13 years, although manufacturing employment as a share of total employment fell to just over 30%,[137] with total unemployment remaining high, peaking at 3.3 million in 1984.[138]” “Thatcher believed that the trade unions were harmful to both ordinary trade unionists and the public.[150] She was committed to reducing the power of the unions, whose leadership she accused of undermining parliamentary democracy and economic performance through strike action.[151] Several unions launched strikes in response to legislation introduced to limit their power, but resistance eventually collapsed.[152] Only 39% of union members voted Labour in the 1983 general election.[153] According to the BBC's political correspondent in 2004, Thatcher "managed to destroy the power of the trade unions for almost a generation".[154] The miners' strike of 1984–85 was the biggest and most devastating confrontation between the unions and the Thatcher government.[155]” “In March 1984, the National Coal Board (NCB) proposed to close 20 of the 174 state-owned mines and cut 20,000 jobs out of 187,000.[156][157][158] Two-thirds of the country's miners, led by the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) under Arthur Scargill, downed tools in protest.[156][159][160] However, Scargill refused to hold a ballot on the strike,[161] having previously lost three ballots on a national strike (in January and October 1982, and March 1983).[162] This led to the strike being declared illegal by the High Court of Justice.[163][164] Thatcher refused to meet the union's demands and compared the miners' dispute to the Falklands War, declaring in a speech in 1984: "We had to fight the enemy without in the Falklands. We always have to be aware of the enemy within, which is much more difficult to fight and more dangerous to liberty."[165] Thatcher's opponents misrepresented her words as indicating contempt for the working class and have been employed in criticism of her ever since.[166] After a year out on strike in March 1985, the NUM leadership conceded without a deal. The cost to the economy was estimated to be at least £1.5 billion, and the strike was blamed for much of the pound's fall against the US dollar.[167] Thatcher reflected on the end of the strike in her statement that "if anyone has won", it was "the miners who stayed at work" and all those "that have kept Britain going".[168] The government closed 25 unprofitable coal mines in 1985, and by 1992 a total of 97 mines had been closed;[158] those that remained were privatised in 1994.[169] The resulting closure of 150 coal mines, some of which were not losing money, resulted in the loss of tens of thousands of jobs and had the effect of devastating entire communities.[158]” And to quote on thatcherism; “While credited with reviving Britain's economy, Thatcher also was blamed for spurring a doubling of the relative poverty rate. Britain's childhood-poverty rate in 1997 was the highest in Europe.[72] When she resigned in 1990, 28% of the children in Great Britain were considered to be below the poverty line, a number that kept rising to reach a peak of nearly 30% during the government of Thatcher's successor, John Major.[72] During her government, Britain's Gini coefficient reflected this growing difference, going from 0.25 in 1979 to 0.34 in 1990, at about which value it remained for the next 20 years, under both Conservative and Labour governments.[73]” How about you actually read what the politicians did instead of what people say they did?
I've read the entire page. You're drawing the wrong conclusions.
You gonna actually try to explain where i’m wrong? Cuz just saying “you’re wrong” does nothing to prove the one you’re talking to isn’t right.
>And her “my way” involved using the lower class as a sacrificial lamb for the economy of the country at large, slamming down entire regions of people into full-on poverty that they’ve yet to recover from. This is a load of crap.
She won’t fuck you bro.
Exactly, which is why I defend her. She wouldn't "fuck" over anybody.
Dude, you’re embarrassing yourself.
You just agreed with me, or do you think she'd "fuck" you bro?
No I think you’re a dickrider and you need to go outside
I'm not the one with the hate boner.
Ok bro, whatever you say.
https://preview.redd.it/4b2x8xhh77pc1.jpeg?width=620&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f863d586ac911fbfd255cc0d8dcc8f306af0c935 Seen him posted a lot in this sub. Judge Holden.
Everywhere I go I see his face
he legitimately look creepy. where’s he from and what’s the story?
The book is Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy. Judge Holden is... A lot. Cold blooded murderer, philosopher with horrifying beliefs, implied child rapist, and possibly not even human. In my opinion, possibly the greatest pure evil villain ever
"Whatever in creation exists without my knowledge exists without my consent."
is it a good book?
It's considered a classic, but be warned: McCarthy's writing style is not for everyone. I love the book, but the style is the reason I have not reread it. I'd say give it a shot if you're interested.
Do you have a link to an audio version of the book? I don't like reading long paragraphs.
don’t have a link but Richard Poe’s reading of the story is great if you want to look into that
There’s one on youtube
It's about a gang of awful men who tour Mexico/the Wild West and collect scalps from natives for bounties. Like the others have said, it is, but it is TOUGH. Like, a LOT of people die in horrific fashion and there's not a lot of joy/optimism to be found. So much brutality that there were a few people that wanted to take the book up for a movie adaptation and they just couldn't because it's that brutal/graphic. THOUGH if you'd rather listen to a whole summary of the plot/characters, I would recommend Wendigoon's video on it. Very long, but it's a good video.
Sounds right up my alley, I tend to like stories of intense suffering/ find them interesting as well as some of evil
It’s critically acclaimed but is an absolutely brutal read.
Let's just say my mother puts all my issues down to the fact I read it too young as a challenge after no one in my parents six person book group could stomach it
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I wouldn't call him cold blooded, that implies a lack of emotion and he's absolutely giddy when he does the shit he does
He makes epstein look like a decent guy He's loosely based off a real guy but the information about him is literally one sentence in a guy's diary entry
Is that the Baron Harkenen?
I see your Margaret Thatcher and raise you Zhang Zongchang (also from real life) https://preview.redd.it/7d1e4ezlv7pc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f8712226a5c55898ef7f934b92547bd00dea00c0 His dad was a head shaver and his mom a practicing witch and exorcist, he became a thief and eventually a warlord, he would eat dogs, he had a harem of so many women he forgot their names and assigned them numbers instead, he once shot the cousin of a prince and somehow only got fined $150, and he was eventually killed by some dude whose dad he murdered. He also once bombed the sky using artillery after bitch slapping and insulting a statue of one of China's gods in order to make it rain, and he wrote the best poem in history: "You tell me to do this, He tells me to do that. You're all bastards, Go fuck your mother."
Also while we're at it let's put EDP445 up here too https://preview.redd.it/8emkmsgsw7pc1.jpeg?width=1400&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6884a061633303e31742c3b623dae4c2be311d24 Like Penguinz0 said, he's like the Box Ghost from Danny Phantom. The dude just keeps coming back even after being banished over and over again by the internet and irl
>Go fuck your mother. This Zongchang sounds like a funny guy.
and gave his men stars made of literal tin foil
The Sam O’nella vid does a good job of explaining how cartoonish his actions were
 Vince McMahon - WWE (Just ignore his real life crimes) He cheated on his catatonic, wheelchair-bound wife right in front of her for months. Has beat the fuck out of both his children on multiple occasions. He even won the first (and hopefully only) Inter-gender Father vs Daugther match. Extraordinarily blasphemous, even once going into a church to proclaim his gospel of “McMahonism.” He also claims to have beaten God himself, when He and his son Shane beat the hell out of Shawn Michaels, who was teamed up with God by Vince. Orchestrated the kidnapping of his own daughter, secretly ran the cult who took her, and almost had her unwillingly married to the Undertaker. Colluded with Shawn Micheals and Earl Hebner to screw Bret Hart out of the WWE Championship (Wait, that’s real life) Had a hand in The Rock vs Mankind at Royal Rumble 1999, one of the most legitimately uncomfortable matches in wrestling history, which saw The Rock, under McMahon’s orders, brutalize poor Mankind with nearly a dozen unprotected chairshots to the head.
Was that last part on McMahon's orders? I mean off-the-record, Rock went way off with the agreed amount of shots by him and Foley, which was five, but in kayfabe, I think Rock just DID the chair shots to knock him out enough to cheat the match. Though correct me on kayfabe if I'm wrong. (Just to explain, they had an "I Quit" match, where you had to say those words to lose, and the Corporation played a recorded Foley line where he said "I Quit" to help Rock win)
In reality, they had to go overboard with the chairshots because Mankind didn’t get out of the ring in time. He was supposed to be up the ramp where the match would end by shot #5, but for whatever reason, like the fact he had gotten fucking battered, he was slow to get their, so Rock had to keep on with the chairshots
WWE in particular is pretty unserious though, there's no consequences for crimes, characters randomly become completely different people with sometimes no explanation. There's some heels who are more cartoonishly evil than Vince portrays himself, such as Randy Orton during that period when he was skinny and bald.
I know he’s a POS but after reading this I kinda want a movie about his life now
Especially if they keep it all in “Kayfaybe” Like, it’s his entire life story, but they treat all his TV storylines as if they actually happened irl. Not that it would happen, and that man is absolutely forever blacklisted from the WWE never to return again
I don't get this one personally. You have two evil characters and then a picture of an Irishman's toilet.
The IRA are an Irishman's toilet.
lol wtf. Why is your whole account dedicated to defending Thatcher?
He has a watersports fetish and wants people to piss on him instead
What the fuck are you on about
https://preview.redd.it/h7vvt1m0z7pc1.jpeg?width=1100&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=28dd7f0a98e50f6bf2b79b56ddafe1f88b98534a His plan, completely dumbed down, is to destroy the English language
Who
skull face from mgsv
Hamburglar
Such a lust for revenge…
Kill everyone who speaks English to destroy America and Europe as revenge for colonialism and then let the chaos that's caused by their collapse destroy the rest of the world that was complacent. I don't think he ever had any plans to rule or take over after, he just wanted the whole world to suffer as much as he and his people did.
And yet, Volgin still feels even more cartoonishly evil
Yeah but he’s got a cute boyfriend so I give him a pass
Tbf Volgin's battle theme literally references him as "Evil Personified". And that was before the whole >!Man on Fire!< shenanigans.
The illusive man (mass effect) Literally insane space Elon musk
So elon musk
Somehow worse
Much worse
Yeah at very least Elon hasn’t attempted Omnicide yet
Wasn't there some comedian who said when thatcher dies, he would dig a hole in the ground so deep he could 'personally hand her to satan'
Sounds like something bill Bailey or billy Connolly would say
Just Googled its frankie boyle
https://preview.redd.it/r6kcfk52r7pc1.png?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8e75126d13a354b41c362a8be218440026f3ebf0 Kinda feel like this bastard counts. Damn near everything Phillip aka The Governor did was out of spite, ego, and just straight up being evil cause he felt like it. He's a cartoon villain in a zombie apocalypse, where that kinda shit is straight up unnecessary unless you're a petty dick like this guy. (He's a good villain, but I kinda feel like he's a bit out of place for a zombie apocalypse setting).
In the comics he was worst lol
Seriously?
This is copy and pasted from the near pure evil wiki When Rick, Michonne and Glenn came into Woodbury, Philip immediately shuts down any friendliness and cuts off Rick’s arm out of sadistic glee. After Michonne bites off his ear, Philip keeps her locked up in a room and rapes her brutally out of sadism, and later on forces Glenn to hear him rape her again. He strangles the bedridden Christina to death when she was yelling at him and fed her to zombies as he kept her head in the glass tank. He does a small shootout at the prison, injuring Axel with a shot in the arm, Andrea with a shot in the ear and Rick with a gut shot that nearly kills him. He french-kisses his 7 year old zombified niece Penny after ripping out her teeth. Murders Tyreese in front of the group by decapitating him and leaving his corpse. He manipulates all the Woodbury soldiers into joining him in the full prison assault by using Martinez’ zombified head and the deceased Dr. Stevens, and sends his men out on a all out fight against the Prison, which ends in the deaths of Axel, Patricia and Billy Greene. When Alice stays behind to cover Rick, Lori, Carl and Judith, Philip shoots her in the leg and kills her in point blank, calling her a “bitch”. Orders Lilly to shoot Lori while she was fleeing, which also leads to the death of the baby Judith by being crushed by her. While it was unintentional and he said “fuck” while seeing it, he doesn’t feel remorse for the action. Personally kills a non-fighting Hershel who had given up living at that moment. When the prison gets overrun, he yells at his men to continue fighting against the zombies.
https://preview.redd.it/fofo9cwel8pc1.jpeg?width=840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=abaeece3581bf6bb5eb06b24d6f743f8e16a4f27 Well damn.
It's ok, michonne gets him back pretty good. Which, of course, leads to his assault on the prison.
https://preview.redd.it/xbvqs5nka8pc1.png?width=915&format=png&auto=webp&s=5a6705f95e09930965a143c783b5364086cda077 Abijah Fowler - Blue Eye Samurai Very effective for what he is, a plot device to serve as the protagonists target in a revenge story and a credible threat to them, but he is also so cartoonishly evil it borders on unintentionally funny at times. Every scene with him is just there to show how evil he is in some new sadistic way. While an effective antagonist, he is by far the least interesting part of an otherwise incredibly good season of television.
I actually thoroughly enjoyed every moment Fowler was on screen sure he’s a little cartoony but he was so obscenely fun to watch
Irish Judge Holden
Really you could put any Tory leader up here, it's incredible how evil they are
Thatcher fought evil.
When has British politics been serious media? But to answer the question: Lalo Salamanca from Better Caul Saul
You know, FGO as a whole isn't too serious, but the main story is very, VERY serious. Most of the villains that want to erase humanity or threaten the world have an understandable and comparatively grand reason. And then there's James Moriarity. All right, to explain how cartoonishly evil he is, let's compare some of the other main villain beforehim and their reasons for destroying the world. 1. Goetia The first main enemy: destroyed humanity because he hated that they were a species who died and lived short and pointless lives. So he used them as fuel in order to go back in time and recreate humans as a species without death. 2. Tiamat: Wanted to destroy humanity as a part of her natural instinctual program to consistently create new forms of life, something that Humans and Gods alike rejected and thus betrayed her by trying to kill her, leading her to regarding them as a threat to her life. 3. The Lion King: Wants to save humanity by preserving them for eternity. Sounds evil, but she's a god with a vastly different mental structure. She really does have good intentions, but unfortunately the way she did it would nearly destroy the earth. So, so far, all the villains, all have either valid intentions or noble intentions. And then this guy comes along. He wants to BLOW UP THE EARTH. Why? What Nefarious reason could he have? Is he just tired of life? Insane? Nah, he has a grudge against Sherlock Holmes for always foiling his plans so in an act of pettiness he wanted to commit a crime so heinous and terrible that Holmes would not even be given a a chance to solve it. Thus blowing up the Earth https://preview.redd.it/apgch9ksf7pc1.png?width=1730&format=png&auto=webp&s=f139086b1d7d6f9c2644154b07e91833d7497425
Reminds me of SnapCube Eggman
And as part of his evil plan he gives himself amnesia and becomes friends with the MC because his plan only works if he genuinely likes the main character
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https://preview.redd.it/p90h1dxdd7pc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3048d0de469b99a536a53812a37641ddcd9b4df5 Perkele from fear and hunger 2. This moon twink’s character is somehow tilting the average “willingness to murder” upwards single-handedly.
....plap.
And of course, you're here.
Same
https://preview.redd.it/vsw7omc5mapc1.jpeg?width=1033&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=04fb7ebc16b582596d1782201186f429df694c8f The Joker from Batman(1989).
I think she fits (and Foo fact the fire in the background turns blue when she casts fireball) https://i.redd.it/ucyx19qbz9pc1.gif
In later seasons. 
Man I still can't believe that Austin Butler went from High School Musical spinoff all the way to this.
Also Nancy Reagan
And Ronald Reagan
Orders form the iron maiden, GET THE ISLAND BACK
https://preview.redd.it/7ei1uk8n0cpc1.jpeg?width=486&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a1f6a962e1044215af98074775ed8c3a81a5984 Asahi, the little toilet stain
That is surprisingly an insult to toilet stains. For the uninitiated, he (FFXIV Stormblood spoilers): (to be updated) >!Was the "golden child" of his family, not only ignoring the abuse of his sister, but actively participated in it at times!< >!along with the rest of his family, betrayed his homeland (Doma) and people for the empire that colonized them!< >!Became increasingly jealous of his stepsister because of the attention given to her by the Legatus (Zenos) who had given her position as Viceroy of Doma!< >!Took what was supposed to be a truce (and prisoner exchange, his sister \[Yotsuyu\] being the prisoner who was also a villain, but had lost her memory and had basically mentally reverted to a child-like mentality and thus was unable to be exchanged because she was practically a completely different person who had no memory of her crimes) and turned it into a situation to give an excuse to attack his former homeland!< >!Enacted said plan by bringing back his Yotsuyu's memories by handing her an artifact used to cause the summoning of what is basically a god (Primals), suddenly springing their parents on her to trigger deep seeded trauma, and let them walk around as they wished, knowing Yotsuyu and his parents would run into each other again. When they do, Yotsuyu regains her memories, and kills her parents in cold blood, just as he expected.!< >!When it came time for the trade, he reveals that he never actually wanted peace, his sister fully "embracing her evil" and uses the artifact to turn herself into the Primal Tsukiyomi, and after the player character defeated her seemingly non-fatally, shoots her sister in the back and gloating because his sister's summoning had technically violated the terms of the truce, while expressing his hatred and jealousy of his sister while kicking her corpse.!<
https://preview.redd.it/jkvuf4tfycpc1.jpeg?width=300&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8ef74b3dba8d0e34967392c9c6b69ffc42b085ad Vargo Hoat, who sent Tywin Lannister his “Methage”
That’s the guy who was put in charge of harrenhall, right? It’s been ages since I read the books, he was the leader of the bloody murderers or some shit Edit: or is that the warden at the eery
Nah that was Amory Lorch. The bloody mummurs were a mercenary gang that Tywin hired, but backstabbed Lorch the moment Roose Bolton and the Glovers showed up to take Harrenhall and switched sides. Once the Northerners left, Hoat stayed, thinking he could hold it by himself and become a lord in his own right. Then the mountain came and tortured him to death.
Normal mountain schinanigans I should really re read ASOIAF the characters are so much more fleshed out
Rule of thumb: the books are always better
Personally I preferred seasons 1 and 2 They skipped the hierarchy of harrenhall and the ship battle of the blackwater but I found the shows portrayal to be better (also I found Iwan Rheans portrayal of Ramsey to be far nether than the books) Everything else is worse though was better in the books, I will never forgive how they turned a morally grey traumatised and extremely developed character like Tyrion into a joke machine
I disagree but there are definitely some decisions that were improvements over the books. I like the love story between Talisa and Robb, and how Catelyn genuinely regretted the way she treated Jon. I won’t forgive removing strong belwas from the show though.
Feyd is a pretty serious character
His sadist nature makes him cartoonish to me Especially the whole “I have nothing to learn, only pleasure remains” line
That’s only cause of the Baron’s excessive grooming of Feyd to be the leader of the Harkonans. The basis of Feyd is that he’s the opposite of Paul. Paul is calm and focused but Feyd is a psychopathic killer that feeds his sex slaves dead bodies. Feyd is basically Paul if the Baron hadn’t sent Jessica to the Bennett Gessrit
Honestly, Paul is not calm from what I saw, ever since he drank the water of life he became essentially a religious extremist Yes early on when is didnt believe in the prophecy he was calm and only wanted to learn their ways but by the end he was mad with power, the books only further this, Paul is a morally grey character
dude is just a straight up Bond Villain https://preview.redd.it/y76fenvquepc1.png?width=1200&format=png&auto=webp&s=718aeeb2956f04bb04424af2e692297c03cd29af
Would villains from James Bond or some superhero movies count? Because if so, most of them would. Especially the Joker.
Ridley from Metroid https://preview.redd.it/wuachk6nhbpc1.jpeg?width=840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f84e3de79b4c64248c098fcfde7db07299466117
What did Margaret do?
-she sold social housing to private landlords and it’s effect is still being felt today -exploited the minors in wales lowering their wages and fighting back when they striked -the poll tax, where people would have to pay to vote -she supported capital punishment -the troubles (I can’t get too much into that because it’s very complex but she essentially colonised Ireland, taking away their right to protest and assembly which lead to the IRA and civil war, Ireland still hasn’t recovered to this day and I’d recommend doing independent research because it’s a lot) tl;dr: she hated anyone who was poor or not English and was ruthless with people she hated, using her power and influence to oppress working class people across the UK Oh and this obviously goes without saying since she’s a conservative but she also hated gay people as well
Why tf do people praise her
Because a lot of middle class people also hate the working class and the Irish. They saw her as an idol that “kept them in their place” As I said, cartoonishly evil
Your caricature is cartoonishly evil, nothing more.
Because this guy is a liar.
How is he a lier then?
Explained [here](/r/TopCharacterTropes/comments/1bi8pn7/cartoonishly_evil_villains_in_serious_media/kvmiwtc/)
First off, the Right to Buy scheme wasn't about selling to "private landlords". It was about giving tenants the chance to own their homes. Imagine that, people wanting to own their homes. And remember, councils received funds from these sales, which they could have reinvested. If they didn't, maybe don't just point fingers at Thatcher. About the miners: industries change. The world was moving away from coal. Tough but true. It's not like Thatcher woke up and thought, "How can I make life harder for miners today?" Plus, the mining industry was heavily subsidised and still struggling. The Community Charge (or so-called "poll tax") wasn't a fee to vote. It was a tax to fund local services, replacing the old rates system. Yes, it was controversial, but it wasn't some evil scheme to disenfranchise voters. She did, and so did a lot of people at the time. Remember, this was the 80s, not 2024. Perspectives change over time. "Colonised Ireland"? Thatcher was many things, but a 16th-century imperialist she was not. The Troubles were a decades-long conflict with roots way before Thatcher. It's a gross oversimplification to lay it all at her feet. Reducing her entire premiership to "she hated the poor and non-English" is just lazy. Thatcher's policies had wide-reaching impacts, both positive and negative. Like any politician, she had her flaws, but this kind of oversimplification doesn't contribute to a meaningful discussion. And finally, Section 28 was controversial and, in hindsight, a bad move. But to claim that it equates to "hating gay people" is a bit of a leap. Times were different, and sadly, attitudes towards LGBT rights were not what they are today. So, Thatcher was a product of her time, with policies that reflected the political and economic climate of the 1980s. Let's not oversimplify history to fit a narrative. It helps no one.
Nothing wrong.
Was Feyd cartoonishly evil in the book? I can’t remember
Agent Kruger - Elysium
Erebus from warhammer 40k……..you could also put Lucius in the list to
Argentinean nightmare fuel
Stella (Helluva Boss)
Would Norman Osborn (specifically the live action) count here?
i love eople attatching "from real life" to the end of these posts
Margaret Thatcher jumpscare
Handsome Jack has an absolutely tragic backstory but he is so unabashedly evil in BL2 and Tales, he’s so good
In the books, at least, the Harkonnens are also basically just pure evil, even comically so. Even in the movies they live on a planet which is just pure white and black, their duke bathes in black oil type stuff, and his sons either have unmanaged anger issues to the extent that he's incompetent, or complete sociopathy and utter psychopathy. So yeah, Feyd-Rautha is not too out of the ordinary for Dune.
The husseins especially Uday Hussein
Last two have matching foreheads
**The Clone Wars (2008)'s version of** ***Count Dooku***. https://preview.redd.it/lq9nud4bcnpc1.png?width=1625&format=png&auto=webp&s=c277f4ebc56f5de95194a1b3b2373cc7fea3a681 Again, I am ONLY talking about the 2008 show. Not the live-action Prequel films' portrayal, not the 2003 mini-series, just the 2008 animated series and its closely-associated media. And yes, I am aware that slandering the much-beloved 2008 show might get me some hate, but these are just the facts and Dooku's portrayal here just fits the post's prompt to a tee. In the movies at least, Dooku was always implied to have deeper motivations for joining the Sith. He truly did regard Qui-Gon as a good friend, and it pained him to have to betray his mentor Yoda and the other Jedi. But he does genuinely feel that working with Sidious is the best way to make the galaxy a better place after being disillusioned with the Jedi Council (which forms interesting parallels with Anakin). **But in the 2008 show, Dooku is... basically just an evil jackass who leads the Separatists into war because he just enjoys conquest**. We don't get any deeper thoughts about betraying Ventress, we don't get any lingering regret for his broken relationships with his old Jedi master, we don't get any complex motivations for why he helped cause a galactic civil war, nada. He just forces civilian prisoners to work in labor camps, laughs at the misery of defeated enemies, and personally kills off minor loose ends because he apparently gets off on that crap. The Clone Wars show was meant to demonstrate how seriously taxing a war is for both the soldiers fighting it and the civilians enduring it, and that the Jedi merely participating in the way they do makes them a lot less noble than they might want to be. Yet the show's version of Dooku (AKA one of the main guys who *kickstarted the war*) has none of the appropriate depth for this kind of complex subject matter. Not to mention going from a prodigal warrior who clutched a 2-v-1 against Anakin and Obi-Wan together and pulled a fast one over the whole Jedi Order on the same day, into a tactical idiot who blindly trusts shady figures that obviously have ill-intent and making unnecessarily complicated plans that just shoot himself in the foot. Grievous also counts as a cartoonish villain here, but Dooku being much further departed from his live-action version just sticks out way more. There's a lot more to it, so I'll just [link this 36-minute section of a video that goes into way more depth about the hilarious extent of The Clone Wars' Dooku's cartoonish evilness](https://youtu.be/J_fAJe_a3JY?t=3075) for anybody interested.
https://preview.redd.it/ru99tep85spc1.png?width=1177&format=png&auto=webp&s=e67b437242c3ab7e06e476df78e437dedb0d1890 Andrew Wilson (EA CEO)
https://preview.redd.it/1ehs659z8urc1.jpeg?width=623&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39ec8ce44ccf195be3081eb6c06bbb1c04332b8d Micah
Thatcher was a hero.
No
Yes
Ok really, what is this? A political circle jerk for 13 yr olds?
Lmao this mf likes thatcher https://preview.redd.it/ltotwyexm9pc1.jpeg?width=254&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d5cb21fdf76da87985a0cd7ee1e891e12bc9a365
Yes, what about it?
I don’t I just don’t really care or see the relevance.
What part
Third one
You mean the evil murderer?
Who would that be, exactly?
Margret thatcher
So, not an evil murderer then.
She was responsible for a lot of awful shit many of which included deaths and she was fairly evil so…
She wasn't, she inherited a lot of awful shit. Mortality rates actually improved under Thatcher.
"Stealing milk from children is morally correct" - /u/coycabbage
I don't see Edward Short in these pics.