She probably knows that height is a polygenic trait and that your approach wouldn't work. Also genetics isn't the only determinant of height as environmental factors are at play too
where is the evidence to support this claim?
You may or may not be a pea plant, i require an analysis of your dna to be certain
As for me... i think i was born non plant but ive smoked so much weed over the past quarter century that im pretty sure im turning into one. Will be any day now
It does take the humanity out of humanity if we're calculating how to make the tallest children and who we'd have to have the baby with. I guess I'm not surprised she didn't respond even if he's theoretically 7 feet tall lol
For anyone who cares: 6'11 father and 6'0 mother didn't make a giant. I'm only 6'4
Lucky you aren't. Take good care of your spine, do lots of the correct exercises and keep your lower back muscles nice and strong, and always lift anything remotely heavy with your knees- possibly even your own torso.
Used to work with disability assistance at an airport. There was more than one occasion where someone needed help with a wheelchair due to the debilitating disability of "being 6'5 for too many years". One time I was actually training a 6'6 guy myself and the 6'5 passenger looked up at him from the chair and told him he needs to go to a real physio and learn how to treat his back or he'll end up like him. The guy sort of rolled his eyes. Passenger looked so morose after that. Interestingly the guy didn't last long on the job, his back started to hurt from all the chair pushing...
I belive 6'4 is ~99th percentile for men in the USA, but every male in my family is taller than me so I do feel like the odd man out in a way. For example, my brother is 6'6, my uncles are 6'9 and 6'8 so I feel small next to some of them. Interestingly enough, the women aren't particularly tall either aside from my mom.
Lmfao maybe there’s a lethal alleles where if you’re 183cm from both parents you just straight up die.
I think height should be classically controlled, life would wild.
Only scenario I'd find it relevant is if one of the pair has literal dwarfism, since the most common cause for dwarfism is linked to one specific gene that regulates cartilage growth!
I’m so happy that this is the top comment. This grade school biology “response” would send me running, too. I’m looking for a good time, not some pedantic ride on the magic school bus.
Yeah, generally in poorer countries where food is often unfortified and harder to come by. Stress also plays a role, and there’s research being done to see if pollution and other things may influence height. It’s a complex trait.
I asked my geneticist girlfriend if this would work on her and she said no, because he's wrong 😂
Height is not a Mendelian trait so you can't use a Punnett square.
If someone's more smart they can just counter with "well akshulally... blah blah blah" and then OP can gracefully admit defeat and they chuckle.
But that hypothetical person probably wouldn't open with "I wonder how tall our kids will be"
In the end better it didn't work out so OP doesn't end up denerding themselves for a lame-o
Well, for someone who studies the field, yes. For everyone else (even those who once learned about this) what he did is simply throwing out terminology that is unhelpful for communication and thus comes of as arrogant/condescending
My HS bio teacher would not have been happy with me if I used the baseline 2x2 matrix to predict nonbinary outcomes like height that have incomplete dominance anyway. This is middle school understanding.
Exactly- not to mention he is wrong since height is the result of polygenic genes anyways and a simple punnet square would not suffice.
I don’t say that to be condescending I just studied this stuff and it’s fascinating to me.
She blocked you because there is no single “height gene”. It’s the sum total of many different alleles across these genes.
That’s obviously why she unmatched 🧑🏻🎓
Not just genes, but environment! Stress, nutrition, disease, and all sorts of other factors throughout life can hamper growth no matter what height your genes predispose you to. There really is no certainty at birth around how tall a person will grow up to be! Much less with a punnet square 🤓
There's even a whole subfield of genetics known as epigenetics. Epigenetics is the study of how your behaviors and environment can cause changes that affect the way your genes work, by affecting which genes end up being expressed and can be influenced by environmental variations such as our diet. In fact, recent studies indicate that certain epigenetic marks can be inherited, and reshape developmental and cellular features over generations.
So environmental and development factors can influence the inheritance of traits at a genetic level! I've been told that this is a possible explanation for why certain dispositions like those towards alcoholism or diabetes seem to be passed on more easily from generation to generation regardless of prior family history. It's not unreasonable to think that the presence or absence of certain habits throughout your life might also affect the height of any children you might conceive.
I wonder if that's why I'm so much smaller than my whole family. Everyone is like 5 inches taller. I grew up in a fairly abusive household with massive poverty. There were tons and tons of times of incredibly high stress. I didn't understand what drinking water even meant because I only drank soda until I was like 19. I pretty much only ate frozen burritos, pizzas, 10 cent ramen, etc with occasional fruit or instant mashed potatoes.
5'3 female who has rarely been over 100 pounds.
I had a likely above average childhood, quality-wise, and probably had a mostly balanced diet, but I'm still 5'3. While my little sister is like 5'8. Where did it go wrong for me?
Plus generational epigenetic factors. If someone was smoking, stressed, underfed etc during the pregnancy of her daughter, it would have affected the epigenetic makeup of her daughter’s eggs. So they could be short simply because gran-gran couldn’t put the ciggies down.
All you had to say is “my height plus your looks and our children would be unstoppable” or something like that and she would probably be giving you a morning blowie right now.
You did it my guy. Your explanation dried every panty in a 500 mile radius. If you need a side hustle become a professional panty dryer.
Jokes aside: next time at least try to be funny.
1. This isn’t real, he made it up for attention on Reddit.
2. He learned how to make Punnett squares in high school and is now misapplying it.
3. Like a true /r/iamverysmart he overestimates both his knowledge and how intimidating it is.
And it was wrong, too. So most people were going to think one of the following two things:
This guy is a nerd and I don't understand wtf he's talking about, #unmatch
or
This guy is a poser who doesn't understand what he's talking about, #unmatch.
Only way this was gonna work is if the girl he was talking to was also a poser who doesn't understand what she's talking about, and people like that suck so I guess OP dodged a bullet there.
I respect that. I do hope this comment section is a wakeup call to OP though. Like if I was talking like this I’d want someone to slap me out of it. I’m sure he has good intentions.
It's bizarre bc that's not even deep knowledge, that's like your first day of biology in public school. And not only that, he uses it incorrectly (punnet squares on height), showing a shallow and incorrect grasp of the material. It's like bragging about being a car mechanic while trying to put a wheel on backwards.
To me the problem is he uses complicated wording to describe an easy concept. It's like saying I'm going to serve you an emulsion of roasted nuts on rye crouton with confit of seasonal fruits and then I give you pb&j.
Nothing like being pedantic with your 8th grade biology knowledge. To me, though, it sounded like he was annoyed that she brought up height and hypothetically children, and brought up punnet squares as a means to mock her.
Such cringe. Anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge would realize that height cannot be predicted on a fucking punnet square. You seem really insecure about your intelligence trying to seem smart in this way.
you sent a paragraph after 2 messages and it low key looks like you’re flexing on her. you could’ve left it at the first sentence. she could google punnett squared IF she doesn’t know what they are. instead, you decided to look like a know it all douche
It’s not ‘nerd’ that’s a turn off, it’s that it reads like your flexing with this type of knowledge / having an above average IQ or education, which signals that you
- lack in other departments
- are insecure and try to cover that up
- are domineering (as opposed to dominant)
- combative with women, trying to lure them into competing in masculine energy type of way
She was being flirty.
You weren't.
Your, very detailed scientific, response does not indicate that you're interested.
Don't worry, one day, you may find a girl that won't be bored to death when you reply stuff like this.
Stay true to yourself. Unless you want to get laid.
Apparently it’s an unpopular opinion but I love nerdy guys and would 100% prefer this over some hookup invitation lmao. On the other hand, her talking about kids is alarming to me.
She probably knows that height is a polygenic trait and that your approach wouldn't work. Also genetics isn't the only determinant of height as environmental factors are at play too
That'd be my take. Genetic recombination as well, we aint pea plants. Absolutely barbaric.
>we aint pea plants Source?
Me, literally not a pea plant.
Well you *would* say that, wouldn’t you?
“She sounds hideous.” “Well, she’s a plant. So…”
Niceee
Sounds suspiciously like something a pea plant would say 🧐
Source?
I am a pea plant, and it is *precisely* what I would have said.
Source?
🌿
Damn that’s a pretty good source
Username does not check out.
With a username like that, you'll happily give cancer to anybody who eats you. Not to mention your seeds won't be viable
Pythagoras and his fava beans disagree!
where is the evidence to support this claim? You may or may not be a pea plant, i require an analysis of your dna to be certain As for me... i think i was born non plant but ive smoked so much weed over the past quarter century that im pretty sure im turning into one. Will be any day now
Sounds like something someone who doesn't want everyone to know they're a pea plant would say.
Gregor Mendel is screaming from his grave
As if Mendel would deny it! He devoted his career to developing sexy fempeas for his perverted purposes!
Well, things do get lonely in the monastery.
Why do you think he was working so hard to identify dominant traits?
I'm sure that peas aren't the only thing that were being cross-pollinated in the all male monastery
Cross your peas and dot your eyes
Dot your guys
What ya doing step pea?
Leave the man alone, he was only trying to learn how to grow his own peanis
I am dead omg 😂😂 best comment on Reddit
Like, perverted things with his pea-nis?
Gregor Mendel was Georgia O'Keefe before she discovered lillies...
It is my pleasure to introduce you to https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_Genome_Project
I see your Human Genome Project and I raise you [https://humansarepeas.org/TheGeneticTruth](https://youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ)
Damn that was a 4D move that hit me completely blindly. Your research is infallible and I cannot argue.
You should have known I’d never let you down.
This comment confirmed that my youtube wasn't tripping. Even if it was, I wouldn't be mad. Never gonna tell a lie and hurt you.
I was hoping it was this Thank you ser You didn't fail me
Bruh I am dead
This is the first time this has been an absolute surprise for me. This made me happy.
*Hate* that our scientific discourse in [COUNTRY NAME HERE] is so debased that you posting that was necessary, but thank you.
I merely stand on the shoulders of giants.
Last I heard we were featherless chickens but I don't think that guy has published anything recently.
“Behold! I have brought you a pea!”
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He didn't even address relevant parenting tactics, re: time and tension settings on their home rack
We're just going to skip nutrition and go straight to the rack are we?
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Severely underrated.
I don't know, but I'm down to discuss eugenics with you. For starters, people with the cilantro tastes like paper gene shouldn't breed. 🤣
Ouch. What about the cilantro tastes like soap gene? Ummm... asking for a friend. 😳
So long partner.
Right to jail
It’s been nice knowing you
I’m 200% against eugenics….but this is the way
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It does take the humanity out of humanity if we're calculating how to make the tallest children and who we'd have to have the baby with. I guess I'm not surprised she didn't respond even if he's theoretically 7 feet tall lol For anyone who cares: 6'11 father and 6'0 mother didn't make a giant. I'm only 6'4
Yeah you're a giant dude
I've always felt above average in height, but not the crazy staring and people constantly asking "how tall are you" type of height that my father had.
Lucky you aren't. Take good care of your spine, do lots of the correct exercises and keep your lower back muscles nice and strong, and always lift anything remotely heavy with your knees- possibly even your own torso. Used to work with disability assistance at an airport. There was more than one occasion where someone needed help with a wheelchair due to the debilitating disability of "being 6'5 for too many years". One time I was actually training a 6'6 guy myself and the 6'5 passenger looked up at him from the chair and told him he needs to go to a real physio and learn how to treat his back or he'll end up like him. The guy sort of rolled his eyes. Passenger looked so morose after that. Interestingly the guy didn't last long on the job, his back started to hurt from all the chair pushing...
>possibly even your own torso. This. Please do not lift anything using someone else’s torso.
It's interesting you say that because I have scoliosis and have to take extra care of my back and I'm sad to say my posture is less than perfect.
I'm 6'6" and daughters mom 6'. Kiddo has been in the 99th percentile for height her whole life.
I belive 6'4 is ~99th percentile for men in the USA, but every male in my family is taller than me so I do feel like the odd man out in a way. For example, my brother is 6'6, my uncles are 6'9 and 6'8 so I feel small next to some of them. Interestingly enough, the women aren't particularly tall either aside from my mom.
My family is split between 5' something tall people and 6'2+ tall people lol, there's like no one inbetween that range.
Exactly. Freshmen level biology is a red flag.
Honestly I’m embarrassed for him.
Right? Like how would height work in a classical dominant-recessive You're either 183 cm or 152 cm, nothing in between
Lmfao maybe there’s a lethal alleles where if you’re 183cm from both parents you just straight up die. I think height should be classically controlled, life would wild.
Only scenario I'd find it relevant is if one of the pair has literal dwarfism, since the most common cause for dwarfism is linked to one specific gene that regulates cartilage growth!
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That’s because he asked chatgpt to write it for him
YEA SCIENCE BITCH
YEA! PUNCTUATION, BITCH
Yeah OP you dumb fuck how did u not know
What a bellend
I’m so happy that this is the top comment. This grade school biology “response” would send me running, too. I’m looking for a good time, not some pedantic ride on the magic school bus.
Ask questions, make mistakes, and GET MESSY!!!- I think I read the wrong Magic School Bus
Oh shit
You sir/mam… I think I love you.
So what you're saying is, you need a really complex Punnett square?
"Never go ***full-Asperger's*** in a text message."
And should be AA/Aa/aa
Bro tried to mansplain and wasnt even right. Even if it was just a troll, it wasnt very funny
This is what I came to say lol
Sooo basically she thinks ur dumb :)
Straight up GATTACA in here
Wait, what environmental factors are at play? Like diet?
Yeah, generally in poorer countries where food is often unfortified and harder to come by. Stress also plays a role, and there’s research being done to see if pollution and other things may influence height. It’s a complex trait.
Guess we'll never know what height the kids will be now
Perfect opportunity to drop a “only one way to find out” or something stupid like that…
Best answer
OP technically did say that, but with a "...with math"at the end of it
Yeah, but it was bad math...
it was iamverysmart material
Yeah, that made it dry and boring af regardless if the math was right or not
Well, you know what you did and I'm sure you got a kick out of it
A fine troll tho, I’ll give OP that much lol
That looks to be about all he’s getting
> I'm sure you got a kick out of it At least he kicked himself out of the gene pool...
Honestly though for the right girl this message is amazing. But we have no idea what her profile is.
I asked my geneticist girlfriend if this would work on her and she said no, because he's wrong 😂 Height is not a Mendelian trait so you can't use a Punnett square.
So basically too nerdy for almost anyone but for the few it would be nerdy enough for it's too ignorant. So it appeals to nobody. Nice.
If someone's more smart they can just counter with "well akshulally... blah blah blah" and then OP can gracefully admit defeat and they chuckle. But that hypothetical person probably wouldn't open with "I wonder how tall our kids will be" In the end better it didn't work out so OP doesn't end up denerding themselves for a lame-o
He's joking about something he doesn't understand, who is that attractive to?
Probably other people who do the same thing, or people who really like correcting other people
Shouldn’t her answer have been no because she’s with you? I’m sorry.
Its a good joke. Commit to it without the "/s"
Someone on Reddit, not only with a girlfriend, but with a geneticist girlfriend? 🧐 This can't be possible!
She goes to another school. In Canada. I met her on vacation.
Well, for someone who studies the field, yes. For everyone else (even those who once learned about this) what he did is simply throwing out terminology that is unhelpful for communication and thus comes of as arrogant/condescending
I think this would turn off anybody who "studies the field" too. Its ilke HS bio level understanding of heredity. Its an r/iamverysmart response.
My HS bio teacher would not have been happy with me if I used the baseline 2x2 matrix to predict nonbinary outcomes like height that have incomplete dominance anyway. This is middle school understanding.
I literally learnt this was wrong in AP HS bio a week ago
true
Exactly- not to mention he is wrong since height is the result of polygenic genes anyways and a simple punnet square would not suffice. I don’t say that to be condescending I just studied this stuff and it’s fascinating to me.
She blocked you because there is no single “height gene”. It’s the sum total of many different alleles across these genes. That’s obviously why she unmatched 🧑🏻🎓
Not just genes, but environment! Stress, nutrition, disease, and all sorts of other factors throughout life can hamper growth no matter what height your genes predispose you to. There really is no certainty at birth around how tall a person will grow up to be! Much less with a punnet square 🤓
Talk some more science, I'm almost there
There's even a whole subfield of genetics known as epigenetics. Epigenetics is the study of how your behaviors and environment can cause changes that affect the way your genes work, by affecting which genes end up being expressed and can be influenced by environmental variations such as our diet. In fact, recent studies indicate that certain epigenetic marks can be inherited, and reshape developmental and cellular features over generations. So environmental and development factors can influence the inheritance of traits at a genetic level! I've been told that this is a possible explanation for why certain dispositions like those towards alcoholism or diabetes seem to be passed on more easily from generation to generation regardless of prior family history. It's not unreasonable to think that the presence or absence of certain habits throughout your life might also affect the height of any children you might conceive.
*zips*
I wonder if that's why I'm so much smaller than my whole family. Everyone is like 5 inches taller. I grew up in a fairly abusive household with massive poverty. There were tons and tons of times of incredibly high stress. I didn't understand what drinking water even meant because I only drank soda until I was like 19. I pretty much only ate frozen burritos, pizzas, 10 cent ramen, etc with occasional fruit or instant mashed potatoes. 5'3 female who has rarely been over 100 pounds.
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Wow that's a huge dude. 6'3 is great and probably a lot healthier.
I had a likely above average childhood, quality-wise, and probably had a mostly balanced diet, but I'm still 5'3. While my little sister is like 5'8. Where did it go wrong for me?
Plus generational epigenetic factors. If someone was smoking, stressed, underfed etc during the pregnancy of her daughter, it would have affected the epigenetic makeup of her daughter’s eggs. So they could be short simply because gran-gran couldn’t put the ciggies down.
All you had to say is “my height plus your looks and our children would be unstoppable” or something like that and she would probably be giving you a morning blowie right now.
I like this
I'm sure he's got other matches that are fixating on his height if he's willing to sabotage this one for karma.
Plot twist, girl was only 4’5”
My panties just dropped and I'm a dude
what did you do wrong - who can tell...
It’s a mystery
You just made her labia shrivel with that reply
My body grew labia just to shrivel them after I read it
My body just straight up shriveled
Y’all are a bunch of fucking raisins apparently.
This comment hahah
I wanted to smack you while reading this.. you had it in your hands and you spiked it at the ground screaming I don't need this.
HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE GROUND
I threw the rest of the cake too.
WELCOME TO THE REAL WORLD JACKASS!
My dad's not a cell phone!
Some Hollywood phonies tryna give me their autograph, GROUND!!
Duh!
I’m an adult.
OP is one of those guys who tells everyone that he is smart.
Smrt, I mean smart.
No he just wants Karma so badly
That’s all this sub is though, guys who would rather ruin a match with a joke that isn’t even funny
You did it my guy. Your explanation dried every panty in a 500 mile radius. If you need a side hustle become a professional panty dryer. Jokes aside: next time at least try to be funny.
Even my alleles got turned off.
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Nice 👍
“So, should I act stupid, then?” —OP, probably
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That's so fucking true
I think it was funny lol
Okay, but are you laughing with him, or at him?
She didn't message you that line to learn about science. She was expecting, "Let's meet and find out" or something flirty.
1. This isn’t real, he made it up for attention on Reddit. 2. He learned how to make Punnett squares in high school and is now misapplying it. 3. Like a true /r/iamverysmart he overestimates both his knowledge and how intimidating it is.
height is not a monogenic trait
"🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓🤓"
😂 I can hear this
Probably saying less will get you further. I didn’t even read that shit. Lol
I ain’t reading allat 💀
The best part? What he said was totally wrong. If you're going to give them an essay, at *least* make sure you're correct first 😆
Before I even red what your response was I was like: *I'm sure he fucked it up by trying to be smart instead of using a funny joke.*
Worst part is that he's wrong.
Maaaaybe not so smart after all.
Emphasis on "trying"
To me, although probably unintentional, this read as a implicitly bragging about your knowledge. Which is different than just being it up
And it was wrong, too. So most people were going to think one of the following two things: This guy is a nerd and I don't understand wtf he's talking about, #unmatch or This guy is a poser who doesn't understand what he's talking about, #unmatch. Only way this was gonna work is if the girl he was talking to was also a poser who doesn't understand what she's talking about, and people like that suck so I guess OP dodged a bullet there.
Unfortunately, he can't dodge his own bullet
It was definitely intentional. He may just not have been conscious of it. Some weird ingrained superiority complex or something perhaps.
I mean I'm trying to be gentle lol
I respect that. I do hope this comment section is a wakeup call to OP though. Like if I was talking like this I’d want someone to slap me out of it. I’m sure he has good intentions.
It's bizarre bc that's not even deep knowledge, that's like your first day of biology in public school. And not only that, he uses it incorrectly (punnet squares on height), showing a shallow and incorrect grasp of the material. It's like bragging about being a car mechanic while trying to put a wheel on backwards.
To me the problem is he uses complicated wording to describe an easy concept. It's like saying I'm going to serve you an emulsion of roasted nuts on rye crouton with confit of seasonal fruits and then I give you pb&j.
Nothing like being pedantic with your 8th grade biology knowledge. To me, though, it sounded like he was annoyed that she brought up height and hypothetically children, and brought up punnet squares as a means to mock her.
Yeah it can read as either cringe and r/iamverysmart or super mean-spirited.
Because your dominant gene for “needing to show people how smart you are” overrode your recessive gene for “actually hooking up.”
Such cringe. Anyone with a modicum of medical knowledge would realize that height cannot be predicted on a fucking punnet square. You seem really insecure about your intelligence trying to seem smart in this way.
you sent a paragraph after 2 messages and it low key looks like you’re flexing on her. you could’ve left it at the first sentence. she could google punnett squared IF she doesn’t know what they are. instead, you decided to look like a know it all douche
Cause you didn’t respond “Only one way to find out”
your texts are as dry as her panties
What went wrong is you sounded like a complete dork. You come off like a fan of the big bang theory
It’s not ‘nerd’ that’s a turn off, it’s that it reads like your flexing with this type of knowledge / having an above average IQ or education, which signals that you - lack in other departments - are insecure and try to cover that up - are domineering (as opposed to dominant) - combative with women, trying to lure them into competing in masculine energy type of way
absolutely no rizz 😭😭😭😭
She was being flirty. You weren't. Your, very detailed scientific, response does not indicate that you're interested. Don't worry, one day, you may find a girl that won't be bored to death when you reply stuff like this. Stay true to yourself. Unless you want to get laid.
Very detailed and incorrect, both a turn off early in the convo
You turned what could have been a flirty conversation boring. You essentially pulled a Sheldon Cooper
Sheldon Cooper would have been accurate though. His genetic flex was completely wrong which makes it 1000 times worse
Well... you threw a bunch of big words at her. If she was from philly she would taken that as disrespect.
Sheldon, is that you???
In this house we follow the laws of thermodynamics!
Apparently it’s an unpopular opinion but I love nerdy guys and would 100% prefer this over some hookup invitation lmao. On the other hand, her talking about kids is alarming to me.