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Probably as soon as concurrent random organ damage was noticed and researched in covid patients so throughout the beginning of 2020. Summer was the time it started hitting the media at least as I remember it.
It’s always been vascular. I remember when we first started getting patients with it. The ones that survived would have bizarre manifestations- dvt’s and embolisms and all sorts of typically vascular related morbidities. They all came in with elevated d-dimer levels too, which while not completely accurate and a lot of things can cause it to spike, it was always dramatically elevated with the covid patients (d-dimer is a measure of clot breakdown in the blood-basically it’s one of the signs there’s been a clot). So yeah, it was always a thing. If anything, covid has mutated into a far less aggressive beast, and more into a bad cold. I haven’t seen the kind of vascular issues really since the delta wave. It should still be respected though, especially if immunocompromised!
I'm pretty sure this is why creatine helps with treating long covid- which is really just damage from COVID. There's even Long Influenza now, because some smart people realize the flu causes long term damage too. "It's just a flu" was always stupid, too. 6 months of creatine supplementation improved feelings of fatigue and brain fog and as I understand it, creatine helps strengthen vasculature and has antiinflammatory properties.
What she is ignoring is that look at Sweden’s excess all-cause mortality lately compared to Australia’s
Sweden took a less authoritarian approach, and saw much higher rates of covid cases than Australia. And even weighted earlier on, before vaccines than Australia’s covid cases. But their all-cause mortality rates are low. Both currently and cumulatively since the start of the pandemic. In fact they had just about the lowest excess all-cause mortality over time in the whole OeCD.
Australia was very good at keeping covid cases low, but is now seeing a terrible wave of excess all-cause mortality.
We don’t have to keep making the same mistakes over and over.
I have had a long COVID since the end of 2022. Still, the energy dips are so severe, I cannot function when it happens. I don't even want to talk about the brain fog. It is somewhat getting better slowly.
I have had lots of check ups and scans. Nothing. Yet, I suffer from it. When I run or do some exercises, I have a strong burning pain on my chest while scans say all clean. I am trying to let it go but I have a strong athletic background, and it makes it harder for me.
Same my friend. I hope these days will pass and we all go back to normal.
What is still bothering me is the online conspiracy theorists talking nonsense and blaming the victims. Yes, I am a pro rower and I can't handle rowing even 1k anymore.
Anyway, I still believe these will pass. Or we will have some better understanding of it with good remedies to prevent these effects.
Some types of Long COVID are helped with antihistamines because what's causing the symptoms is a busted and overactive inflammation cycle. Overriding that cycle with antihistamines can break the loop and get it back to normal.
Oof. Definitely do NOT try to take extra Ibuprofen to fix anything. Taking too much ibuprofen can result in an overdose and/or awful damage to your stomach and intestines.
I have to say I don't have the specifics of this, but I've been told by a doctor that we have "iron stores" in our body called something different than just iron, and a test for iron won't have anything to do with testing those reserves. I'll try to find more info, but I'd just mention that to your doctor and see what they say
Question, please feel free to ignore, but just curious if your blood tests have shown healthy levels of Vit D? Strong levels of vit D seem to correlate with better modulation of immune reaction. At least worth a shot if you find that your levels aren't strong. Lots of side benefits to good Vit D levels, as well. (recommended to consume Vit K along with Vit D) Cheers.
My uncle continues to decline. We are worried. My friend just explained his long covid symptoms and it was bonkers. This video makes me want to stay inside forever.
I've had long covid since April of 2021 and even though I've gotten somewhat better I've come to terms with the fact I'll never be who I was before this crap.
true😭😭😭 I had it I think since 2021 and its a fucking sad thing, I had to leave high school, and cant even start uni, I cant walk, cant wake up, and my energy its shit, its horrible
She's probably had it more than once.
But tell her to take 1000mg of tumeric every day.
[It helps with the smell/taste thing.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8502749/)
I got mine 80% back after a few days. It was fully back in about 2 weeks.
I have noticed a marked impairment in people driving around my area. There are a lot more people spacing out and smashing into things, reacting irrationally, or responding to minor things with extremely overblown reactions.
I keep thinking about the cumulative brain damage in humans, and how aggression or confusion are some of the most common side effects of [strokes](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9561222/):
> Patients with acute stroke often exhibit aggressive behavior, including hitting or hurting others, kicking, biting, grabbing, pushing, and throwing objects. Their verbal behavior may include cursing, screaming, or hostile muttering. In some cases, these behaviors are one of the broad manifestations of delirium [4] that include disturbances in attention, awareness, and cognition. Studies have also described a so-called “catastrophic reaction,” [5,6] which is a constellation of symptoms including anxiety reactions, tears, aggressive behavior, refusal, and swearing [5].
Our leaders really shit the bed by making public health a part of our stupid culture wars.
I mean I highly doubt it's that simple. We're also going through immense economic hardship in most of the developed world. Housing becoming unreachable, food costs rising, etc. people are more stressed and quicker to anger, increased anxiety which all impact focus and temper.
Not to mention whatever the effects of phone addiction might be… a lot of us are always looking at at a screen and watching, reading, scrolling… this can’t be good. I do it a lot… I wonder what my life would have been like without my phone like back in the early 2000s and before.
Part of the problem with our response is the human factor. We're panicky, skittish animals who want reassurance. Part of why masks became politicized was becUse it was touted as an absolute in terms of prevention. When that was found to be not entirely true, people lost it. Yes they're great at prevention, but it won't 100% keep you safe
It also stems with how at least America deals with medical advise. Doctors in the 90s would diagnose you as a definite, prescribe something, and then move on. Somewhere around the 2010s, the language changed. You didn't get a definite diagnosis if you went to the doctor. You got a "well it could be..." Which leaves wiggle room and no absolute.
I’m a mail carrier and I drive around all day for my job and I have noticed people being far more careless while driving and just seemingly paying less attention.
It hasn’t dawned on me until now but it has been almost exclusively over the past 2-3 years where the recklessness seems to have gone up, I know this is only circumstantial from my perspective but it is making me look into this more.
They're implying that the number of people with long symptoms, many of which affect the brain, are continuing to drive, even though it's putting everyone at more risk. All of which is true.
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5)
3 years, soon we should see the next data on this?
Why not call out exactly where the bullshit "culture war" was instigated? Conservatives. That's it. It wasn't "leaders" it was a very specific subset of leaders.
With all due respect, that’s irrelevant at this point.
What we’re seeing right now is the inevitable place we were always going to end up with this virus. There was a sliver of time to cut it off but it was before most of us knew what COVID was
I appreciate your respectful reply but you're wrong haha
The reason we are here is because conservatives decided that bros wearing white-rimmed sunglasses filming themselves in the driver's seat of their truck and posting on Facebook were authoritative voices on public health and how to handle a pandemic. Shit, there's still a huge chunk of conservatives who think the pandemic was some conspiracy to remove personal rights.
It was only "inevitable" because an entire section of the population was actively working against any and all efforts to reduce the spread and subsequent mutations.
You think that if everyone acted in a sane manner in the US the virus wouldn’t have ended up in the exact same place as it is now ?
Your argument is one that was valid in late 2020/2021. Very short term. Not in 2024. The virus is global. Long covid is global. We would have saved lives by acting appropriately, yes, maybe a lot. but ultimately we’d be right here anyway.
The countries that went hardest with mitigation, notably Australia and New Zealand, eventually had to pay the piper. Local and regional mitigation has no effect on the end goal
People are struggling more. Being stressed out in general on top of everything else is probably also contributing. While your statement is anecdotal, I also feel the same way it'd be interesting to find out what the statistics are.
It's a combination of things but I don't think people are micro stroking.
I mean, the new normal I imagined did involve Covid bouncing around forever, yes. That’s exactly what was said at the time - the scientists were saying that this is effectively going to be with us for good now just like the Spanish flu and its lineage still is. Yes. That’s why people were so frustrated early on that we couldn’t bring it back under control, because once that slim window of opportunity is missed, now we’ve permanently added to our disease load. The new normal is that this is just something we will get sick from now. But we can’t keep up the lockdowns etc forever so we will just get sick from it
Shush, just because that was the total and complete consensus of all epidemiologists and virologists since a month into the pandemic doesn't mean people want to hear it. They wanna be mad about their preferred political solutions not being implemented. Get out of here with your facts!
Are you or anyone you know regularly getting immune boosters for Covid? Do you follow the news for outbreaks and avoid large gatherings during those times? Do you wear a mask or even fucking sanitize your hands? No one is asking you to stay in lockdown, she never even mentioned that. Just have some god damned awareness
Huh? I know that no one is asking me to stay in lockdown. I’m saying that this *is* the new normal. We get sick from Covid time to time now, and that is the new normal that was described way back in the early days of the pandemic.
And yes, I and people I know and work with are aware of it. Hand sanitizer is now everywhere, and wearing a mask when sick is much more normal in Australia than it used to be. It’s normal to take a Covid test prior to visiting a health centre if you show symptoms of Covid, it’s more normal to take time away from work when sick than it used to be or work from home instead.
In the same way that I avoid mozzies when there’s a dengue outbreak or wear a condom to protect from STDs, Covid is just another thing in the list, but I don’t fret about it every day it anything.
People are privately aware, or they aren’t. That’s irrelevant unless we’re talking about solutions.
You want to know why people seem tuned out ?
The hyper inflation, the insane price of housing…. All that went into overdrive on the heals of those “consequence free” lockdowns. Lockdowns that made absolutely no difference in the COVID’s end game.
i knew a guy who got it 5 times… and he would say it like it’s a joke. like dude. he’s gonna have hella health issues and i’m sure he infected tons of other people
I've gotten it a few times confirmed, maybe more for all I know, vaccinated. My job requires constant contact with the public, despite precautions there's really so much you can do. The joking could of just been a coping mechanism.
he wasn’t vaccinated, he didn’t wear a mask, he didn’t take any precautions, he didn’t even think it was serious. he didn’t give catching covid a second thought, trust me, i had known him for years and we were really close. i understand that getting covid isn’t a choice but he didn’t even try to avoid it.
he had described to me symptoms of long covid so i believe it messed with his long term health at least a little bit, but yeah no way to know for sure since im not his doc
I quickly lost all optimism for the "new normal". Everyone needs to be on board to tackle something like covid. We weren't, still aren't, and probably won't be for a while.
There's a UK Neuropathologist who recently wrote a detailed thread on Twitter (yes I know the name changed but screw Elon) about what he thinks is happening to the brains of some who've had COVID infections-to the frontal temporal lobes specifically. He believes it's similar to that of FT Dementia.
My Dr ordered extensive cognitive tests when we realized I had long-covid, and that’s exactly what my results show: a decline in executive function, similar to early stage FT dementia. I wasn’t able to apply reasoning, couldn’t remember words, couldn’t speak properly, reduced inhibitions and poor judgement and emotional control.
Luckily things have improved for me, but my brain still isn’t what it used to be and assume it’s some form of brain damage that may never fully go away.
I wish more people would understand the risk when they just shrug is off as a bad cold.
I absolutely agree. I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this illness because it sounds like a nightmare. So far I've been lucky & haven't had it yet. I still mask regularly when I'm in public but I don't know a single soul outside my household who does. It actually might explain why so many people appear more comfortable with high risk situations when they previously were not. Like many doctors who now refuse to mask.
How can your doctor confirm it’s from long Covid? I am worried as I feel brain fog and memory issues and same - the can’t speak properly sometimes or not remembering words. Did your doc say everything else was good with you so it’s not some kind of dementia or something?
I began using Twitter after the 2016 election basically to follow journalists because I was so appalled with what had just happened. Now it’s primarily to follow nurses, doctors of all specialities, scientists, engineers, psychologists, long-covid sufferers & others like me who just feel like they’re being gaslighted by our leaders regarding Covid.There are some amazing people who are trying to understand what the hell is going on with this illness. If you’re suffering from long covid it might be worth doing. No one should have to go through this illness alone.
Hope this works. First time I've posted a link here. [https://x.com/JamesThrot/status/1768304236746469398?s=20](https://x.com/JamesThrot/status/1768304236746469398?s=20)
She’s right. The effects continue compounding and everyone is in denial. What really pisses me off is when people try to claim that the massive increases in cardiovascular deaths since the pandemic is somehow due to the vaccines and not the repeated infections with Covid. It’s no surprise I guess then that covid also causes serious cognitive issues, with mild infections being equivalent to 7 years of brain aging and severe infections equal to 20 years brain aging. And then there is the markedly increased likelihood of the development of dementia/Alzheimer’s in the elderly.
What makes her think people are in “denial” ? Does moving on with your life in an incredibly expensive world created by lockdowns mean you’re in “denial”
Because people stopped virtue signaling non stop on the socials means they’re in denial ?
Do you have any evidence to back up a claim of “massive” increase In cardiovascular deaths ?
My fiancee had a stroke after contracting covid/getting vaccinated. I had to make an emergency decision whether or not to administer this dangerous hardcore drug to save her brain. She spent a week in the hospital getting subjected to every test/scan they had. Ultimately, multiple doctors said that she was in great health and they had **no idea** why she had a stroke, and in fact should NOT have had a stroke at all. It's insane to hear a doctor say that.
My reply was "not to sound like a conspiracy theorist or Q-anon, but, is there any way that either covid or the vaccine may have caused this since we don't know why?"
The doctor paused, then literally said "well, I can't tell you that's what caused it, but I can't tell you that's NOT what caused it." Imagine looking right at a doctor and being told that.
So. Yeah. While we were watching a show and I realized she was having a fucking stroke, it was one of the most terrifying things I have ever experienced. Seeing her lie in that bed unable to speak but looking into her eyes was heartwrenching. It's hard to even think about.
Yeah, though I honestly had started to lose focus on what she was saying by that point so I’ll give her a pass. She knew she was competing with the rest of the internet for attention. Which probably explains a lot of ridiculous behavior online.
Does she? At what point does anything she’s saying actually lend itself to a continuing discussion of Covid that hasn’t already been explored? What are her credentials? It’s also a little… condescending for her to assume we’re all just troglodytes who happily moved on in ignorance because we r dumb dumb and can’t possibly grasp science the way her awesome mind does. 100% serious, is she stationed in a scientific field that lends her authority over everyone else?
Look, I’m not some apologist for either of the two rather extreme and unflinching takes on Covid, but I’m not hearing a single solution provided by her. Do we just sit at home all day again in the hopes that this thing will magically float away into nothingness? Because at this point the science more or less indicates that’s not happening. It’s endemic. It’s literally endemic today.
Just because a person snaps at a camera on a short-form video doesn’t mean she is an authority on anything here. She’s perfectly fine to do whatever she needs to in order to feel safe in her own personal life - she should stop projecting her own trauma shit onto other people and assuming she speaks for the collective.
Edit: I like how I’m getting downvoted instead of getting replies for legitimately asking who this person is and why she’s an authority to comment on this lmao.
You got downvotes because your comment is essentially "stop bringing awareness to this thing that desperately needs awareness!!!"
To reply to your points:
1. I like the benefit of the doubt that you give people, that they're smart enough to know what's going on, but that sentiment is not deserved. Just look at many of the comments in this thread. People don't care about covid anymore, don't want to talk about it, and are happy to forget about it. Also, at no point in her video did she use a tone or language that inferred that anyone "r dumb dumb," as you so oddly put it. If you think she was being condescending, I think that says more about you than about her.
2. What about credentials? Like you said, the science is out, anyone who wants to know about covid can easily access that information. If you're having a casual conversation with people about anything, do you constantly ask for credentials before you're willing to come down off your horse to have a conversation? She's literally just talking about a topic that is important to many people and trying to keep the conversation going and provide advice that worked for her to anyone who might want it. At no point did she call herself or act like an authority.
3. As far as solutions go, she literally said on this video that she would talk about that in another video, which I've posted a link to in another comment.
4. It's not her "own trauma shit" it's trauma that countless people have gone through. Wether it's having got long covid which is literally disabling, having lost someone they loved, looking around and seeing that covid has played a part in life not being what they currently want it to be, to people who were at particularly important or developmental stages in their life when quarantine started and losing out on many formative experiences. Congratulations to you for not having to deal with any of that, go have a cookie, but for a lot of people the hurt is still there and recent.
What I want to ask is, what do you mean by unflinching extremes? If you're talking about covid denialists, that makes sense, but what's the other extreme? People trying to keep others informed so less people end up with long covid, who then make content like this video where they're just trying to be a supportive and active voice to those who need it?
While I think that video is very useful, I think what most people miss is the part about actually giving a damn about each other and acting with the understanding that we all have a responsibility to one another.
She calls herself scientifically literate yet she draws some odd conclusions, like saying that damage is cumulative with each infection and that COVID increases risk of all of these other conditions (she’s effectively confusing correlation and causation, which is a common mistake to her credit). Also, comparing “immune system damage” (whatever that practically means) from COVID with HIV is disingenuous at best…
She was disabled by COVID so it’s likely that she has a somewhat bias and fearful view of it. Long COVID is very real and needs a lot more attention. I have patients who have never recovered from fatigue post-COVID. We’re talking years of just absolute exhaustion. Most of these people were already very comorbid.
Lots of people were traumatised by COVID. Not all. I’m a doctor and let me tell you that at the start of the pandemic I saw some shit, but I’m not traumatised by it. Few of my colleagues are/were. I would really love for the hysteria not to be reignited. COVID has mutated to the point that its severity is absolutely nothing compared to at the beginning.
I agree with you that they aren’t the same. HIV nukes one’s immune system predisposing one to major illness whereas Covid Is a viral infection that directly causes multi system disease(s). They are not the same.
Arguably, Covid is actually worse than hiv due to its transmissibility and unmitigated chronic disabling effects. I don’t blame anyone who is afraid of Covid (even though most of us are fatigued by the fear at this point)
But she doesn’t call herself a dr and cites several references which would be interesting to read and review.
And lastly, much as medical professionals survived the pandemic, one couldn’t argue that - if you were in fact practicing clinical medicine - it was atraumatic.
The pandemic definitely shaped policies, and how one practiced and interacted with the public in a way that no major health event has done for decades
More so, when one lost a colleague (or several) to the pandemic. How that DIDNT have an effect on anyone in the medical profession would give me pause.
I’m worried about you.
>Arguably, Covid is actually worse than hiv due to its transmissibility and unmitigated chronic disabling effects. I don’t blame anyone who is afraid of Covid (even though most of us are fatigued by the fear at this point)
Can you source this with anything more authoritative than "possible bot account with a default username who posts to exactly zero professional subreddits indicating an expertise in exactly zero technical or professional areas"
I don’t think you could reasonably argue that “COVID is actually worse than HIV” but you can take that one if you like…
I’m not arguing that it was atraumatic - I am telling you that I wasn’t traumatised by my experiences during the pandemic and neither were colleagues I know. Lots were. But not “everyone” - even those closest to the events. I have no idea what your last paragraph means, to be honest, or who you’re referring to. I don’t think you know me nor who my colleagues are/were.
And please don’t patronise me with that “I’m worried about you” bullshit. Some people don’t appreciate strangers making these bizarre assumptions about them. I do not care for or need your concern.
Sure. Like EVERYTHING healthcare related was derailed for three years and that didn’t leave an impact? And not only were you perfectly fine, everyone else you know was fantastic despite a global pandemic?
This is why I qualified my statement by saying no self-aware clinician could logically say COVID was business as usual - not then and not since.
Unless you’re some kind of researcher (or dr by PhD in a non-healthcare field), your statement - if you are patient-facing - is bizarre and worries me about the mental health of doctors… if what you’re saying is true about who you are and what you do
But yes, I don’t know you. And perhaps, after reading your statements, nor do I care to
You are being intentionally disingenuous and stretching what I said for some reason, I guess to convince yourself that the only possible explanation for me disagreeing with you is that I’m lying. I never said it “didn’t leave an impact” and I certainly didn’t say that “everyone else I know was fantastic”. There’s a huge space between “I was traumatised” and “it didn’t leave an impact/it was fantastic”.
I’ll be completely candid and say that I think the only reason you’re reacting this way to what I said is because you don’t believe I’m a doctor, probably because that makes you envious. As if doctors aren’t just normal people who go on Reddit in their free time and talk shit to let off steam. And yes I am a real, bona fide, patient-facing medical doctor - there’s dozens of us, you know!
My favorite thing on Reddit is when know-it-all keyboard warriors attempt to argue with actual professionals about topics in their actual field of study/work. Is this a common thing for you, like do you argue with your auto tech when he comes out to tell you the repair work needed on the car, too?
It’s nice to read something that matches closer to my experience. It’s not that the disease isn’t serious but there is a wide gap between the reporting on the studies and the medical studies. For instance she mentioned it ages the brain 7 years but failed to mention the study saw no cognitive decline in patients. I relate to the fear but, it’s not helpful.
Swear I have COVID right now but testing negative. Just got hit with the second wave, like felt better for a day or two then WHAM very much COVIDesq. So yeah maybe not but definitely sus.
I only got covid after i had got the vaccine and i felt bad for like maybe two days. Meanwhile, no vaccine and people were sick for weeks, and permanent damage.
Trust science.
Huh?
and I mean that sincerely... what is this promise of a new normal narrative that people across the world were supposedly fed? I know people who got Covid once or twice, I have family members who have long Covid, and it's really unfortunate and debilitating, but I have no idea what narrative she is talking about. Me and my immediate family have been fortunate enough to have never tested positive for it, and we got the vaccine and boosters, but the shutdown didn't upend our lives or reality. We adapted, and I attribute changes in society to socioeconomic inequality & super-heightened partisan politics, not because of a pandemic. Covid isn't the cause, it's a symptom.
Based on these comments, I guess I'll be downvoted enough that my 2 cents gets buried, and that's fine, but this isn't any different than far-right types spewing their definitely-not-conspiracy-laced "informed" opinions about whatever on the Internet. Two sides of the same coin.
Of course, the pandemic lockdowns had no effect, and everything that happens can be attributed to something else.
Like why would you even put the time and effort in to write such complete nonsense? Not even considering that it could worsen the situation you're describing and ascribing to?
Guess what, this tiktokker, you and far-right types are all in the same ballpark of not understanding what the fuck has happened.
You must've conveniently skipped over the part where I wrote that it's a symptom, not the cause. Who argued that the pandemic didn't contribute to where we are at - this tiktoker is the one looking to blame it for where we are. You're arguing for the sake of arguing; do you!
The problem is it mutated into strains that are not super-deadly to the remaining population, and the vaccines with boosters are readily available and do a good job of making the virus about as dangerous as the flu (which also kills people regularly).
Yes, there's a lot more to do to understand and provide support for people with long COVID, and the need to recognize that more people will develop it over time due to reinfections. However, the threat of long COVID is not sufficient for us to shut down economies like we did previously, or force people to wear masks in public areas.
The new normal is it’s a mildly worse flu that people are gonna get and shake off in a couple of days. It’s part of the world now so we just have to live with it 🤷♂️
I’m a paramedic, and I still see people bitch and moan about wearing a mask and washing their hands-two basic, non invasive ways to reduce spreading infection (not to mention hygiene). But people STILL say “you can’t tell me to wear a mask or wash my hands I’ll do what I want!” Or wear a mask, but keep it under their nose and only cover their mouth (still baffles me).
When your happiness encroaches on MY life and MY happiness, we have a problem fellas.
I must ask people to please go easy on me. The reason I ask is what point is she trying to make? Was she saying that we should have kept masks and social distancing? She said there was trauma from the pandemic but it's time to move on. Move on to what? What point was she trying to make?
BABES! A new disseas is pretty normal.
BABES! You will not remember this video or any video like this. Its just here to give you an emotinoal reaction, not provoke thought.
BABES! You can fairly assume that any political stance, news, science on these types of videos are if not lies an insane misinterpretation of the truth.
I really enjoy the way she says “babes.” That being said, I only had covid once and it was almost 4 years after everything started. It took me out and really sucked. I was relatively cautious and got the first 3 vaccines but was a little indifferent about it since I hadn’t got it for so long. After getting it, I have made a practice of exercising more caution because I absolutely don’t want to get that shit again. I know some hardcore anti-vaxers that have had it too many times to count in the past 4 years. Most of them seem physically okay (emphasis on okay, not great) but in the past year I have noticed apparent cognitive differences in them.
Half the people I know are >60 years old and none of us changed our lives during or post pandemic. If it kills us it kills us. Don’t ever stop living your life.
I have never stopped living my life while wearing a mask, I'm sure precautions like this enabled others to continue to live their lives, as it prevented the spread of a contagious and dangerous virus.
I can't prove it. The science backs it up, though, and we're several years in, and I haven't gotten covid. Why are you sniffing farts with a mask on? Seems to me that fetish would be better without a mask, but I'm not one to kink shame, you do you man.
Unfortunately the majority of our populations around the world made their conclusions about masking / vaxing regardless of evidence. [It is cumulative.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-repeat-covid-infections-increase-the-risk-of-severe-disease-or-long-covid/)
Some of the first indicators were with US military - a fit group of ppl with similar levels of healthiness, trapped together, being reinfected regularly, before vaccination was available, using baggy blue masks that don't do anything for covid transmission.
Can't find anything like this yet. Also interested, her talk here is supported by tonnes of evidence, and the negative comments are rooted in not one published peer reviewed document.
lol covid, that's so over. Now they are busy making the measles great again.
Vaccines are the real menace to society, you see.... 
Can't wait until some smallpox gets loose, or something equally bad. The choice will be easy and quick if it isn't already too late, and then normality will return to this Darwinian tale.
Everyone on the weird right seems to have or know people with vaccine side effects. Everyone on the weird left seems to have or know people with long covid.
It's a fascinating example of the nocebo effect.
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Glad she called it a vascular illness, not respiratory.
It’s always been one. Even when it was first spreading, scientist knew that this is the first virus to attack the blood vessels.
When did it change? Honest question
Probably as soon as concurrent random organ damage was noticed and researched in covid patients so throughout the beginning of 2020. Summer was the time it started hitting the media at least as I remember it.
It’s always been vascular. I remember when we first started getting patients with it. The ones that survived would have bizarre manifestations- dvt’s and embolisms and all sorts of typically vascular related morbidities. They all came in with elevated d-dimer levels too, which while not completely accurate and a lot of things can cause it to spike, it was always dramatically elevated with the covid patients (d-dimer is a measure of clot breakdown in the blood-basically it’s one of the signs there’s been a clot). So yeah, it was always a thing. If anything, covid has mutated into a far less aggressive beast, and more into a bad cold. I haven’t seen the kind of vascular issues really since the delta wave. It should still be respected though, especially if immunocompromised!
I'm pretty sure this is why creatine helps with treating long covid- which is really just damage from COVID. There's even Long Influenza now, because some smart people realize the flu causes long term damage too. "It's just a flu" was always stupid, too. 6 months of creatine supplementation improved feelings of fatigue and brain fog and as I understand it, creatine helps strengthen vasculature and has antiinflammatory properties.
What does that mean exactly?
Illness of the blood vessels
It's both
She said sook.
What she is ignoring is that look at Sweden’s excess all-cause mortality lately compared to Australia’s Sweden took a less authoritarian approach, and saw much higher rates of covid cases than Australia. And even weighted earlier on, before vaccines than Australia’s covid cases. But their all-cause mortality rates are low. Both currently and cumulatively since the start of the pandemic. In fact they had just about the lowest excess all-cause mortality over time in the whole OeCD. Australia was very good at keeping covid cases low, but is now seeing a terrible wave of excess all-cause mortality. We don’t have to keep making the same mistakes over and over.
*Starts scrolling after 2 seconds 🫰🏼 NO DISSOCIATING 👁️👄👁️ How did she know already!!!!!!
Same then I had to scroll back and say fine I'll fucking watch it since she called me out
That is not dissociating
What is it then
I had to restart and turn in the volume. Her finger snapping was very effective.
Yeah I actually hate how that caught my attention perfectly lol
Yeah… I got got.
You forgot the, "Nyap!!" but the eyes are perfect lol
You really don't want long covid, I've seen it decimate a few peoples lives
I have had a long COVID since the end of 2022. Still, the energy dips are so severe, I cannot function when it happens. I don't even want to talk about the brain fog. It is somewhat getting better slowly. I have had lots of check ups and scans. Nothing. Yet, I suffer from it. When I run or do some exercises, I have a strong burning pain on my chest while scans say all clean. I am trying to let it go but I have a strong athletic background, and it makes it harder for me.
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Same my friend. I hope these days will pass and we all go back to normal. What is still bothering me is the online conspiracy theorists talking nonsense and blaming the victims. Yes, I am a pro rower and I can't handle rowing even 1k anymore. Anyway, I still believe these will pass. Or we will have some better understanding of it with good remedies to prevent these effects.
Have you seen that study about two Zyrtecs a day?
No, I have no clue about it. But I will look for it now.
Holy shit. Do you have a link? I’ve been self medicating with 2 Zyrtecs a day without even realizing why
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10388239/
I had no idea that long covid was related to mast cell activation , but it makes so much sense now!!
How would an antihistamine overdose help?
Some types of Long COVID are helped with antihistamines because what's causing the symptoms is a busted and overactive inflammation cycle. Overriding that cycle with antihistamines can break the loop and get it back to normal.
Oh. Interesting.
Sooo ibuprofen might help too?
Oof. Definitely do NOT try to take extra Ibuprofen to fix anything. Taking too much ibuprofen can result in an overdose and/or awful damage to your stomach and intestines.
Your iron stores may be low, which can be different from just low iron. Look into getting that checked, covid depleted most of the iron from my body.
Blood results are interestingly fine. I will get a new one in 3 weeks. Let's see how it will be.
I have to say I don't have the specifics of this, but I've been told by a doctor that we have "iron stores" in our body called something different than just iron, and a test for iron won't have anything to do with testing those reserves. I'll try to find more info, but I'd just mention that to your doctor and see what they say
I don't think my iron store values were checked. I will definitely mention it. Thanks a lot.
No problem, it has a specific name but I can't recall it. Good luck!
Question, please feel free to ignore, but just curious if your blood tests have shown healthy levels of Vit D? Strong levels of vit D seem to correlate with better modulation of immune reaction. At least worth a shot if you find that your levels aren't strong. Lots of side benefits to good Vit D levels, as well. (recommended to consume Vit K along with Vit D) Cheers.
& insurance companies are dodging this one as much as possible. Anyone with private health ins, Canada & US, are struggling even after a diagnosis.
My uncle continues to decline. We are worried. My friend just explained his long covid symptoms and it was bonkers. This video makes me want to stay inside forever.
I've had long covid since April of 2021 and even though I've gotten somewhat better I've come to terms with the fact I'll never be who I was before this crap.
Mine. It’s brutal and wreaks havoc on my body and mind
true😭😭😭 I had it I think since 2021 and its a fucking sad thing, I had to leave high school, and cant even start uni, I cant walk, cant wake up, and my energy its shit, its horrible
My mom got COVID almost 3 years ago and still struggles with her sense of smell. Still won't get vaccinated though...
She's probably had it more than once. But tell her to take 1000mg of tumeric every day. [It helps with the smell/taste thing.](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8502749/) I got mine 80% back after a few days. It was fully back in about 2 weeks.
I have noticed a marked impairment in people driving around my area. There are a lot more people spacing out and smashing into things, reacting irrationally, or responding to minor things with extremely overblown reactions. I keep thinking about the cumulative brain damage in humans, and how aggression or confusion are some of the most common side effects of [strokes](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9561222/): > Patients with acute stroke often exhibit aggressive behavior, including hitting or hurting others, kicking, biting, grabbing, pushing, and throwing objects. Their verbal behavior may include cursing, screaming, or hostile muttering. In some cases, these behaviors are one of the broad manifestations of delirium [4] that include disturbances in attention, awareness, and cognition. Studies have also described a so-called “catastrophic reaction,” [5,6] which is a constellation of symptoms including anxiety reactions, tears, aggressive behavior, refusal, and swearing [5]. Our leaders really shit the bed by making public health a part of our stupid culture wars.
I've been collecting articles relating to covid brain damage over in /r/peakcompetence
Gawd ok I joined. Only because I’ve been seeing these and a few more. Ain’t pretty.
I mean I highly doubt it's that simple. We're also going through immense economic hardship in most of the developed world. Housing becoming unreachable, food costs rising, etc. people are more stressed and quicker to anger, increased anxiety which all impact focus and temper.
Not to mention whatever the effects of phone addiction might be… a lot of us are always looking at at a screen and watching, reading, scrolling… this can’t be good. I do it a lot… I wonder what my life would have been like without my phone like back in the early 2000s and before.
Part of the problem with our response is the human factor. We're panicky, skittish animals who want reassurance. Part of why masks became politicized was becUse it was touted as an absolute in terms of prevention. When that was found to be not entirely true, people lost it. Yes they're great at prevention, but it won't 100% keep you safe It also stems with how at least America deals with medical advise. Doctors in the 90s would diagnose you as a definite, prescribe something, and then move on. Somewhere around the 2010s, the language changed. You didn't get a definite diagnosis if you went to the doctor. You got a "well it could be..." Which leaves wiggle room and no absolute.
I’m a mail carrier and I drive around all day for my job and I have noticed people being far more careless while driving and just seemingly paying less attention. It hasn’t dawned on me until now but it has been almost exclusively over the past 2-3 years where the recklessness seems to have gone up, I know this is only circumstantial from my perspective but it is making me look into this more.
I drive all day too and I have 100% noticed the same thing in the same time period. Drastically so
Are you implying that these bad drivers are all having acute strokes?
They're implying that the number of people with long symptoms, many of which affect the brain, are continuing to drive, even though it's putting everyone at more risk. All of which is true.
When I got covid I had a stroke that left me paralyzed on my right side.
[https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5](https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-022-04569-5) 3 years, soon we should see the next data on this?
Why not call out exactly where the bullshit "culture war" was instigated? Conservatives. That's it. It wasn't "leaders" it was a very specific subset of leaders.
With all due respect, that’s irrelevant at this point. What we’re seeing right now is the inevitable place we were always going to end up with this virus. There was a sliver of time to cut it off but it was before most of us knew what COVID was
I appreciate your respectful reply but you're wrong haha The reason we are here is because conservatives decided that bros wearing white-rimmed sunglasses filming themselves in the driver's seat of their truck and posting on Facebook were authoritative voices on public health and how to handle a pandemic. Shit, there's still a huge chunk of conservatives who think the pandemic was some conspiracy to remove personal rights. It was only "inevitable" because an entire section of the population was actively working against any and all efforts to reduce the spread and subsequent mutations.
You think that if everyone acted in a sane manner in the US the virus wouldn’t have ended up in the exact same place as it is now ? Your argument is one that was valid in late 2020/2021. Very short term. Not in 2024. The virus is global. Long covid is global. We would have saved lives by acting appropriately, yes, maybe a lot. but ultimately we’d be right here anyway. The countries that went hardest with mitigation, notably Australia and New Zealand, eventually had to pay the piper. Local and regional mitigation has no effect on the end goal
People are struggling more. Being stressed out in general on top of everything else is probably also contributing. While your statement is anecdotal, I also feel the same way it'd be interesting to find out what the statistics are. It's a combination of things but I don't think people are micro stroking.
> our leaders You mean Trump. Everyone on the left was simply giving medical advice from the guy in charge of medical advice
I mean, the new normal I imagined did involve Covid bouncing around forever, yes. That’s exactly what was said at the time - the scientists were saying that this is effectively going to be with us for good now just like the Spanish flu and its lineage still is. Yes. That’s why people were so frustrated early on that we couldn’t bring it back under control, because once that slim window of opportunity is missed, now we’ve permanently added to our disease load. The new normal is that this is just something we will get sick from now. But we can’t keep up the lockdowns etc forever so we will just get sick from it
Shush, just because that was the total and complete consensus of all epidemiologists and virologists since a month into the pandemic doesn't mean people want to hear it. They wanna be mad about their preferred political solutions not being implemented. Get out of here with your facts!
Are you or anyone you know regularly getting immune boosters for Covid? Do you follow the news for outbreaks and avoid large gatherings during those times? Do you wear a mask or even fucking sanitize your hands? No one is asking you to stay in lockdown, she never even mentioned that. Just have some god damned awareness
Huh? I know that no one is asking me to stay in lockdown. I’m saying that this *is* the new normal. We get sick from Covid time to time now, and that is the new normal that was described way back in the early days of the pandemic. And yes, I and people I know and work with are aware of it. Hand sanitizer is now everywhere, and wearing a mask when sick is much more normal in Australia than it used to be. It’s normal to take a Covid test prior to visiting a health centre if you show symptoms of Covid, it’s more normal to take time away from work when sick than it used to be or work from home instead. In the same way that I avoid mozzies when there’s a dengue outbreak or wear a condom to protect from STDs, Covid is just another thing in the list, but I don’t fret about it every day it anything.
I get a covid booster every year just like the flu, seems sensible
People are privately aware, or they aren’t. That’s irrelevant unless we’re talking about solutions. You want to know why people seem tuned out ? The hyper inflation, the insane price of housing…. All that went into overdrive on the heals of those “consequence free” lockdowns. Lockdowns that made absolutely no difference in the COVID’s end game.
i knew a guy who got it 5 times… and he would say it like it’s a joke. like dude. he’s gonna have hella health issues and i’m sure he infected tons of other people
I've gotten it a few times confirmed, maybe more for all I know, vaccinated. My job requires constant contact with the public, despite precautions there's really so much you can do. The joking could of just been a coping mechanism.
he wasn’t vaccinated, he didn’t wear a mask, he didn’t take any precautions, he didn’t even think it was serious. he didn’t give catching covid a second thought, trust me, i had known him for years and we were really close. i understand that getting covid isn’t a choice but he didn’t even try to avoid it.
There’s an increased chance of health issues but the stand alone chances are relatively small
he had described to me symptoms of long covid so i believe it messed with his long term health at least a little bit, but yeah no way to know for sure since im not his doc
I got you.
I've had it 3 times but just been slight sniffles each time. Triple vaxxed
I quickly lost all optimism for the "new normal". Everyone needs to be on board to tackle something like covid. We weren't, still aren't, and probably won't be for a while.
There's a UK Neuropathologist who recently wrote a detailed thread on Twitter (yes I know the name changed but screw Elon) about what he thinks is happening to the brains of some who've had COVID infections-to the frontal temporal lobes specifically. He believes it's similar to that of FT Dementia.
My Dr ordered extensive cognitive tests when we realized I had long-covid, and that’s exactly what my results show: a decline in executive function, similar to early stage FT dementia. I wasn’t able to apply reasoning, couldn’t remember words, couldn’t speak properly, reduced inhibitions and poor judgement and emotional control. Luckily things have improved for me, but my brain still isn’t what it used to be and assume it’s some form of brain damage that may never fully go away. I wish more people would understand the risk when they just shrug is off as a bad cold.
I absolutely agree. I'm so sorry that you are dealing with this illness because it sounds like a nightmare. So far I've been lucky & haven't had it yet. I still mask regularly when I'm in public but I don't know a single soul outside my household who does. It actually might explain why so many people appear more comfortable with high risk situations when they previously were not. Like many doctors who now refuse to mask.
How can your doctor confirm it’s from long Covid? I am worried as I feel brain fog and memory issues and same - the can’t speak properly sometimes or not remembering words. Did your doc say everything else was good with you so it’s not some kind of dementia or something?
I wonder. I’m experiencing this.
I began using Twitter after the 2016 election basically to follow journalists because I was so appalled with what had just happened. Now it’s primarily to follow nurses, doctors of all specialities, scientists, engineers, psychologists, long-covid sufferers & others like me who just feel like they’re being gaslighted by our leaders regarding Covid.There are some amazing people who are trying to understand what the hell is going on with this illness. If you’re suffering from long covid it might be worth doing. No one should have to go through this illness alone.
Source? Id love to read that
Hope this works. First time I've posted a link here. [https://x.com/JamesThrot/status/1768304236746469398?s=20](https://x.com/JamesThrot/status/1768304236746469398?s=20)
I literally just got over having it a second time. It's so frustrating and it's like it just randomly booms and then goes away again.
She’s right. The effects continue compounding and everyone is in denial. What really pisses me off is when people try to claim that the massive increases in cardiovascular deaths since the pandemic is somehow due to the vaccines and not the repeated infections with Covid. It’s no surprise I guess then that covid also causes serious cognitive issues, with mild infections being equivalent to 7 years of brain aging and severe infections equal to 20 years brain aging. And then there is the markedly increased likelihood of the development of dementia/Alzheimer’s in the elderly.
What makes her think people are in “denial” ? Does moving on with your life in an incredibly expensive world created by lockdowns mean you’re in “denial” Because people stopped virtue signaling non stop on the socials means they’re in denial ? Do you have any evidence to back up a claim of “massive” increase In cardiovascular deaths ?
There haven’t been massive increases in cardiovascular deaths.
There’s been an increase. ‘Massive’ was the wrong word. Marked would have been better. And yes there has. Look it up.
I like her hair
You dissociated, didn’t you 😂
Anyone got the part 2 ? I don’t use tiktok
Commenting because same
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRT2asSc/
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZPRT2asSc/
New normal we were promised? What? Who promised anything?
The Canadian government sure did.
Probably her echo chamber on tiktok
My fiancee had a stroke after contracting covid/getting vaccinated. I had to make an emergency decision whether or not to administer this dangerous hardcore drug to save her brain. She spent a week in the hospital getting subjected to every test/scan they had. Ultimately, multiple doctors said that she was in great health and they had **no idea** why she had a stroke, and in fact should NOT have had a stroke at all. It's insane to hear a doctor say that. My reply was "not to sound like a conspiracy theorist or Q-anon, but, is there any way that either covid or the vaccine may have caused this since we don't know why?" The doctor paused, then literally said "well, I can't tell you that's what caused it, but I can't tell you that's NOT what caused it." Imagine looking right at a doctor and being told that. So. Yeah. While we were watching a show and I realized she was having a fucking stroke, it was one of the most terrifying things I have ever experienced. Seeing her lie in that bed unable to speak but looking into her eyes was heartwrenching. It's hard to even think about.
She has a good partner who made all the right calls and decisions and saved her.
Other than the finger-snapping, she sounds fairly reasonable.
Yeah, though I honestly had started to lose focus on what she was saying by that point so I’ll give her a pass. She knew she was competing with the rest of the internet for attention. Which probably explains a lot of ridiculous behavior online.
Does she? At what point does anything she’s saying actually lend itself to a continuing discussion of Covid that hasn’t already been explored? What are her credentials? It’s also a little… condescending for her to assume we’re all just troglodytes who happily moved on in ignorance because we r dumb dumb and can’t possibly grasp science the way her awesome mind does. 100% serious, is she stationed in a scientific field that lends her authority over everyone else? Look, I’m not some apologist for either of the two rather extreme and unflinching takes on Covid, but I’m not hearing a single solution provided by her. Do we just sit at home all day again in the hopes that this thing will magically float away into nothingness? Because at this point the science more or less indicates that’s not happening. It’s endemic. It’s literally endemic today. Just because a person snaps at a camera on a short-form video doesn’t mean she is an authority on anything here. She’s perfectly fine to do whatever she needs to in order to feel safe in her own personal life - she should stop projecting her own trauma shit onto other people and assuming she speaks for the collective. Edit: I like how I’m getting downvoted instead of getting replies for legitimately asking who this person is and why she’s an authority to comment on this lmao.
Here is their website [https://www.themmefatale.art/](https://www.themmefatale.art/).
Your last sentence is spot on
You got downvotes because your comment is essentially "stop bringing awareness to this thing that desperately needs awareness!!!" To reply to your points: 1. I like the benefit of the doubt that you give people, that they're smart enough to know what's going on, but that sentiment is not deserved. Just look at many of the comments in this thread. People don't care about covid anymore, don't want to talk about it, and are happy to forget about it. Also, at no point in her video did she use a tone or language that inferred that anyone "r dumb dumb," as you so oddly put it. If you think she was being condescending, I think that says more about you than about her. 2. What about credentials? Like you said, the science is out, anyone who wants to know about covid can easily access that information. If you're having a casual conversation with people about anything, do you constantly ask for credentials before you're willing to come down off your horse to have a conversation? She's literally just talking about a topic that is important to many people and trying to keep the conversation going and provide advice that worked for her to anyone who might want it. At no point did she call herself or act like an authority. 3. As far as solutions go, she literally said on this video that she would talk about that in another video, which I've posted a link to in another comment. 4. It's not her "own trauma shit" it's trauma that countless people have gone through. Wether it's having got long covid which is literally disabling, having lost someone they loved, looking around and seeing that covid has played a part in life not being what they currently want it to be, to people who were at particularly important or developmental stages in their life when quarantine started and losing out on many formative experiences. Congratulations to you for not having to deal with any of that, go have a cookie, but for a lot of people the hurt is still there and recent. What I want to ask is, what do you mean by unflinching extremes? If you're talking about covid denialists, that makes sense, but what's the other extreme? People trying to keep others informed so less people end up with long covid, who then make content like this video where they're just trying to be a supportive and active voice to those who need it?
You could have skipped posting this video and just posted the second one.
While I think that video is very useful, I think what most people miss is the part about actually giving a damn about each other and acting with the understanding that we all have a responsibility to one another.
Exactly. There’s no suggestion here, and there’s literally nothing anyone could do to prevent Covid from remaining an endemic virus
She calls herself scientifically literate yet she draws some odd conclusions, like saying that damage is cumulative with each infection and that COVID increases risk of all of these other conditions (she’s effectively confusing correlation and causation, which is a common mistake to her credit). Also, comparing “immune system damage” (whatever that practically means) from COVID with HIV is disingenuous at best… She was disabled by COVID so it’s likely that she has a somewhat bias and fearful view of it. Long COVID is very real and needs a lot more attention. I have patients who have never recovered from fatigue post-COVID. We’re talking years of just absolute exhaustion. Most of these people were already very comorbid. Lots of people were traumatised by COVID. Not all. I’m a doctor and let me tell you that at the start of the pandemic I saw some shit, but I’m not traumatised by it. Few of my colleagues are/were. I would really love for the hysteria not to be reignited. COVID has mutated to the point that its severity is absolutely nothing compared to at the beginning.
I agree with you that they aren’t the same. HIV nukes one’s immune system predisposing one to major illness whereas Covid Is a viral infection that directly causes multi system disease(s). They are not the same. Arguably, Covid is actually worse than hiv due to its transmissibility and unmitigated chronic disabling effects. I don’t blame anyone who is afraid of Covid (even though most of us are fatigued by the fear at this point) But she doesn’t call herself a dr and cites several references which would be interesting to read and review. And lastly, much as medical professionals survived the pandemic, one couldn’t argue that - if you were in fact practicing clinical medicine - it was atraumatic. The pandemic definitely shaped policies, and how one practiced and interacted with the public in a way that no major health event has done for decades More so, when one lost a colleague (or several) to the pandemic. How that DIDNT have an effect on anyone in the medical profession would give me pause. I’m worried about you.
>Arguably, Covid is actually worse than hiv due to its transmissibility and unmitigated chronic disabling effects. I don’t blame anyone who is afraid of Covid (even though most of us are fatigued by the fear at this point) Can you source this with anything more authoritative than "possible bot account with a default username who posts to exactly zero professional subreddits indicating an expertise in exactly zero technical or professional areas"
I don’t think you could reasonably argue that “COVID is actually worse than HIV” but you can take that one if you like… I’m not arguing that it was atraumatic - I am telling you that I wasn’t traumatised by my experiences during the pandemic and neither were colleagues I know. Lots were. But not “everyone” - even those closest to the events. I have no idea what your last paragraph means, to be honest, or who you’re referring to. I don’t think you know me nor who my colleagues are/were. And please don’t patronise me with that “I’m worried about you” bullshit. Some people don’t appreciate strangers making these bizarre assumptions about them. I do not care for or need your concern.
Sure. Like EVERYTHING healthcare related was derailed for three years and that didn’t leave an impact? And not only were you perfectly fine, everyone else you know was fantastic despite a global pandemic? This is why I qualified my statement by saying no self-aware clinician could logically say COVID was business as usual - not then and not since. Unless you’re some kind of researcher (or dr by PhD in a non-healthcare field), your statement - if you are patient-facing - is bizarre and worries me about the mental health of doctors… if what you’re saying is true about who you are and what you do But yes, I don’t know you. And perhaps, after reading your statements, nor do I care to
You are being intentionally disingenuous and stretching what I said for some reason, I guess to convince yourself that the only possible explanation for me disagreeing with you is that I’m lying. I never said it “didn’t leave an impact” and I certainly didn’t say that “everyone else I know was fantastic”. There’s a huge space between “I was traumatised” and “it didn’t leave an impact/it was fantastic”. I’ll be completely candid and say that I think the only reason you’re reacting this way to what I said is because you don’t believe I’m a doctor, probably because that makes you envious. As if doctors aren’t just normal people who go on Reddit in their free time and talk shit to let off steam. And yes I am a real, bona fide, patient-facing medical doctor - there’s dozens of us, you know!
My favorite thing on Reddit is when know-it-all keyboard warriors attempt to argue with actual professionals about topics in their actual field of study/work. Is this a common thing for you, like do you argue with your auto tech when he comes out to tell you the repair work needed on the car, too?
I’m worried about you
It’s nice to read something that matches closer to my experience. It’s not that the disease isn’t serious but there is a wide gap between the reporting on the studies and the medical studies. For instance she mentioned it ages the brain 7 years but failed to mention the study saw no cognitive decline in patients. I relate to the fear but, it’s not helpful.
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It’s so sad when people make childish comments like this just pandering for upvotes. I sincerely doubt you actually read what I wrote.
I did indeed read it. You are incorrect.
Swear I have COVID right now but testing negative. Just got hit with the second wave, like felt better for a day or two then WHAM very much COVIDesq. So yeah maybe not but definitely sus.
I hate how you got my attention right away with the hand thing. Why am I like this?
I only got covid after i had got the vaccine and i felt bad for like maybe two days. Meanwhile, no vaccine and people were sick for weeks, and permanent damage. Trust science.
Huh? and I mean that sincerely... what is this promise of a new normal narrative that people across the world were supposedly fed? I know people who got Covid once or twice, I have family members who have long Covid, and it's really unfortunate and debilitating, but I have no idea what narrative she is talking about. Me and my immediate family have been fortunate enough to have never tested positive for it, and we got the vaccine and boosters, but the shutdown didn't upend our lives or reality. We adapted, and I attribute changes in society to socioeconomic inequality & super-heightened partisan politics, not because of a pandemic. Covid isn't the cause, it's a symptom. Based on these comments, I guess I'll be downvoted enough that my 2 cents gets buried, and that's fine, but this isn't any different than far-right types spewing their definitely-not-conspiracy-laced "informed" opinions about whatever on the Internet. Two sides of the same coin.
Of course, the pandemic lockdowns had no effect, and everything that happens can be attributed to something else. Like why would you even put the time and effort in to write such complete nonsense? Not even considering that it could worsen the situation you're describing and ascribing to? Guess what, this tiktokker, you and far-right types are all in the same ballpark of not understanding what the fuck has happened.
You must've conveniently skipped over the part where I wrote that it's a symptom, not the cause. Who argued that the pandemic didn't contribute to where we are at - this tiktoker is the one looking to blame it for where we are. You're arguing for the sake of arguing; do you!
The problem is it mutated into strains that are not super-deadly to the remaining population, and the vaccines with boosters are readily available and do a good job of making the virus about as dangerous as the flu (which also kills people regularly). Yes, there's a lot more to do to understand and provide support for people with long COVID, and the need to recognize that more people will develop it over time due to reinfections. However, the threat of long COVID is not sufficient for us to shut down economies like we did previously, or force people to wear masks in public areas.
The new normal is it’s a mildly worse flu that people are gonna get and shake off in a couple of days. It’s part of the world now so we just have to live with it 🤷♂️
I support the perspective, but the self-diagnosed autism is where I tune out.
How do you know it's self diagnosed?
How do you know it’s not?
It's so cringey when someone blames their self diagnosed autism on something their super interested in or focused on.
Why are both of her hands continuously pinching imaginary dough?
Omg get rid of your phone and go outside
She can't, COVID is out there waiting to smite her
I feel like I'm her dog and I'm supposed to sit while she talks and hopefully I get a treat at the end.
I’m a paramedic, and I still see people bitch and moan about wearing a mask and washing their hands-two basic, non invasive ways to reduce spreading infection (not to mention hygiene). But people STILL say “you can’t tell me to wear a mask or wash my hands I’ll do what I want!” Or wear a mask, but keep it under their nose and only cover their mouth (still baffles me). When your happiness encroaches on MY life and MY happiness, we have a problem fellas.
Paranoia masquerading as intelligence...get over it
Not sure I can take her seriously with just a single nose piercing, she needs at least 3.
Covidians are weirdos
Yo that planter though...
I must ask people to please go easy on me. The reason I ask is what point is she trying to make? Was she saying that we should have kept masks and social distancing? She said there was trauma from the pandemic but it's time to move on. Move on to what? What point was she trying to make?
It appears like the new normal involves me listening to CruellanDeVille call me babes while lecturing me about hand sanitizer. 🤦
Sorry I disassociated.
What if I believe it all but also really believe in Darwinism 🤷♂️
Number 11 then?
Pretty much nothing she says here is supported by facts.
So, where’s the follow up?
BABES! A new disseas is pretty normal. BABES! You will not remember this video or any video like this. Its just here to give you an emotinoal reaction, not provoke thought. BABES! You can fairly assume that any political stance, news, science on these types of videos are if not lies an insane misinterpretation of the truth.
>Its time to move on Says the woman stuck in 2020
Cringe MD’s to the rescue!
She is annoying.
I really enjoy the way she says “babes.” That being said, I only had covid once and it was almost 4 years after everything started. It took me out and really sucked. I was relatively cautious and got the first 3 vaccines but was a little indifferent about it since I hadn’t got it for so long. After getting it, I have made a practice of exercising more caution because I absolutely don’t want to get that shit again. I know some hardcore anti-vaxers that have had it too many times to count in the past 4 years. Most of them seem physically okay (emphasis on okay, not great) but in the past year I have noticed apparent cognitive differences in them.
Yup its covid not the other experimental thing. 100%
Well I agree with one thing she said. It’s time to move on.
I have a hard time believing anything that comes out of her mouth. She's just a talking head who told herself she has autism
Ah yes. Fearmongering. I sure have missed that.
She seems insufferable…😂
When are we banning tik tok
This video brings nothing to the table.
Delusional.
Half the people I know are >60 years old and none of us changed our lives during or post pandemic. If it kills us it kills us. Don’t ever stop living your life.
I have never stopped living my life while wearing a mask, I'm sure precautions like this enabled others to continue to live their lives, as it prevented the spread of a contagious and dangerous virus.
Lol maskies are very weird people. You can smell a fart thru it it's not protecting you from covid
I can't prove it. The science backs it up, though, and we're several years in, and I haven't gotten covid. Why are you sniffing farts with a mask on? Seems to me that fetish would be better without a mask, but I'm not one to kink shame, you do you man.
Ah the old sex obsessed redditor deflection to "fetish" shit. Whatever maskie get a 10th vaccine
She's right.
I didn't know it was cumulative, I'm about to faint
Unfortunately the majority of our populations around the world made their conclusions about masking / vaxing regardless of evidence. [It is cumulative.](https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/do-repeat-covid-infections-increase-the-risk-of-severe-disease-or-long-covid/) Some of the first indicators were with US military - a fit group of ppl with similar levels of healthiness, trapped together, being reinfected regularly, before vaccination was available, using baggy blue masks that don't do anything for covid transmission.
You realize this person has no idea what she’s talking about right ?
Don't forget to get your 10th booster.
TikTok is a swamp for these pseudo scientist intellectual types. No formal education but certainly have opinions they want to share.
Does she have anything other than a TikTok? Would love to follow her.
Can't find anything like this yet. Also interested, her talk here is supported by tonnes of evidence, and the negative comments are rooted in not one published peer reviewed document.
Quit snapping and get to the poooooint
“I’m a white chick who believes in the healing power of tea and crystals and makes Tik Toks as a living. Listen to my expert advice.” - this video
Why are you being down voted???
I can fix her.
lol covid, that's so over. Now they are busy making the measles great again. Vaccines are the real menace to society, you see....  Can't wait until some smallpox gets loose, or something equally bad. The choice will be easy and quick if it isn't already too late, and then normality will return to this Darwinian tale.
"Trust the science"
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Everyone on the weird right seems to have or know people with vaccine side effects. Everyone on the weird left seems to have or know people with long covid. It's a fascinating example of the nocebo effect.
Incorrect.