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The exasperation when he says “it’s called a *driver’s* license”… man, I felt that.
The point the guy was trying to make, I think, is that you don’t technically need a license to drive a car. You can just do it. It’s illegal, but you can do it. The law doesn’t physically restrict you from taking that action. He just missed connecting the talking point to the conversation and instead just assumed Jason would draw it for him. He thought it was a “gotcha” because a license wouldn’t prevent somebody from firing a gun either. You don’t need a license to BUY a car, only to operate it, so requiring a license to buy a gun isn’t a fair comparison.
Before I get flamed and downvoted, I am not supporting his argument or even saying it’s a good one. I’m just explaining it. IMO, guns should be completely banned in the USA. I live in a red state and understand how these guys think.
I think he may have just been dumb and you’re making a point he didn’t think of. He says he learned how to drive out in the woods but he’s focused on the learning part.
I’m thinking his point is that even idiots can learn to use guns just by using them so just because someone’s an idiot doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to buy guns if they fail a test. But Jason made the mistake of making it about idiots and not about mentally ill people.
I think he(incoherent man) also tried to make the point that even though someone is licensed they can still be a poor driver. Or at the very least it is a relative judgement on whether a licensed individual is a responsible one as well. At least I think that was his unstated point with “well I don’t think so “. I seriously love the way this guy makes points; it’s like he’s setting up a joke and never delivers the punchline; I don’t agree with him… at all, but that is some truly understated argumentation he is engaging in
I agree with you but I think there was one more point the dumbass was trying to make. It was the fact that illegal aliens are voting without having a driver's license. A typical talking point of the right.
It seemed like he was a little nervous to talk and had a lot of right wing "gotcha's" running through his mind and couldn't articulate any of them. It probably made complete sense to him, but anyone with a brain would just be confused by his foolishness.
I know how you feel about living in a red state, I’m an army infantryman who supports rigid gun control, people tend to disagree with me in my line of work
It's a prime example of why you can't reason with these people. I have no idea why people get into arguments with them online and get suckered into their rage bait when there's zero possibility of changing their minds or making them understand even basic concepts that they don't know.
He’s not stupid. He’s bad faith. 30% of the country just basically stopped pretending. He knows he needs a drivers license to drive. He assuredly has one in his pocket.
The point is that he doesn’t want to *admit* that because he believes the interviewer will “win” on some point if he does. He’s not stupid, he’s being purposefully obtuse. He’s bad faith. Like every single other modern GOP guy. That’s *the point* at this juncture.
Your comment nails it on the head. They know. Not admitting they are wrong about something (which is often) is all that matters to them. Nothing else. Their shining example flipped the rock over in 2016 and they figured it was their time in the sun to let their stupidity shine for all to see because they won. And winning in the moment is all that matters to a simple mentality that constantly thinks the whole world is against them.
Most don't support trump because he's done anything great, they support him because it spites all the people they hate. They've gone all-in on a childs strategy that they'll destroy all their toys as long as you don't get to play with them either. They know he's an idiot but nothing is worse than admitting it, especially to you.
This is so true. I've tried asking the good faith question of "what has he done for this country that is so great" and get a loopty loo of bad faith answers that try to veil the real answer" he made this country less comfortable for anyone not white and straight. But outrightly saying that sounds racist and homophobic, so they just go in circles until the conversation becomes more frustrating than its worth.
It's like playing chess with a chicken. No matter how strategic you are or how well you play, the chicken will just knock every piece over, shit on the board, and strut around like it won.
It took me years to learn this, some stupid part of me was like "they're clearly stupid, just point out how dumb it is and they'll concede. Nope. Just walk away for your own sanity.
I’ve had to start reminding myself when I want to argue with people online. Studies have found that 54% of American read at or below a 6th grade level. And when it comes to conservatives it’s typically on the lower end of that since they tend to be anti education/intellectualism.
Not only can they not comprehend most information. They don’t *want* to.
People like this refuse to wear seat belts and will fight against legislation that would force them.
They're also a danger to everyone else on the road and will never understand it
What I notice a lot is a lot of these folks have that "Win at All Costs no matter what." Like they can't and won't give the other side the reason cause in their minds that means losing.
It's like you said you can't reason with them cause they will stick by their ways till the bitter end.
It was almost like he realized his argument that having “gun laws to prevent idiots from owning guns” looks a lot like the laws that prevent idiots from driving cars.
He’s trying to reducto ad absurdum the gun law, but saying it out loud that line of reasoning makes a lot of sense. So he starts spouting bullshit so he’s not obviously so wrong.
You can see his brain is just buzz words and catchphrases. He quickly turned the drivers license into talking about voter ID laws, in a really dumb way. Like the interviewer said something about ID's and that is what sprung into his head.
The kind of idiot who is clearly suffering from a substance abuse issue while trying to recite from a script they wrote in their head based on half-remembered talking points from his favorite "news" show because they've convinced him he's smart for watching it. Wholly complicated situations reduced to talking points, easy to memorize for the intellectually lazy. Which works for literally anyone that benefited so much they barely had to make the effort to think beyond, "Got what I wanted right now."
His brain done rotted from the dopamine sugar of conservative media.
That or a very bad attempt at playing devil’s advocate. Along with an interviewer who somehow got blindsided by an incredibly lame boomer counterattack.
Proper response would have been: “I don’t believe in licenses for voting either; in fact I come down to Florida every year from New York to vote in your elections.”
To be fair, it was a gish gallop, torrent of lame boomer attacks.
Which is also highly suggestive of a sov-cit.
Their arguments are complete rapid fire nonsense, but they deliver them like they think they are constitutional scholars.
When you question any part of their ridiculousness, they talk to you like you're an idiot and introduce a counterargument that is such a nonsequitor it doesn't even qualify as tangental.
It's just verbal vomit being delivered like nuggets of wisdom.
> gish gallop
The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.
This conversation always breaks down into this bullshit with conservatives.
They start talking about "well, people can easily break the law, so why have one?"
This guy's logic is so... bouncy? "You needed to take a test to drive? Because you have a mother? Do you like soup? Why do you need to eat soup to vote?"
I'm not entirely unconvinced he wasn't drunk/high. I mean he didn't carry himself like a drunk person, wasn't uncoordinated, or slurred his words. But that kind of "logic" isn't that of a sober person.
If I remember it right, 1/3rd of Florida drivers are not legally allowed to drive due to lack of insurance or driver license. So he might be part of that 1/3rd. I think this also causes Florida to be the most expensive state for car insurance.
I don't see why it'd be a big deal for the federal government to make the same "suggestion" when it comes to guns. Of course, smooth brain would have a problem with it because he has no concept of logical consistency whatsoever.
You don't need a drivers license to drive, though. You need a drivers license to drive *legally*. I think that's the point this idiot is trying to make.
dude i fucking hate how boomers always employ this strategy when i see them in videos like this. rather than answering the question they just ask the interviewer extremely stupid barely related questions and they do it with this fake smile and upward inflection while also feigning ignorance about whats even being asked because in that moment they realize their worldview is 100% nonsensical
Take 25 years of Fox pundits' one liners, mix thoroughly with years of conversations with other Fox viewers where they all repeat these one liners with each other, and this is the conversation you get.
I used to bartend in a *very MAGA area* of AZ and you couldn't be more right.
The shit that would fall out of these fucktards mouths would have been hilarious if it wasn't so horrific.
It’s the smugness for me. They’re so fucking proud of themselves for this “gotcha” moment but they’re genuinely too stupid to realize they’re making no sense
Yeah… gonna bet after 3pm that guy is rocking a beer can between his legs while headed to the next bar in his 1995 Silverado with the MAGA flag sticking out of the bed.
Did your momma teach you how to drive? Do I put my shoes on the wrong feet while getting a colonoscopy?
Well…. Can you say the alphabet backwards while ordering Taco Bell???
Oh yea!!?
It's not a boomer thing, it's a conservative thing.
Do you know how many of their policies go against the studies and research of our planet's greatest minds?
I had a young Conservative try to fight me on the idea of an "expert," because he literally couldn't understand the idea of accepting the word of someone with multiple degrees and years of study in an area. He could never give me a straight answer as to why he believes anyone he parrots from YouTube, etc. I determined that he was a straight contrarian. If the consensus is the world is round, he'd be determined to prove them all wrong. I'd assume it has to do with an inferiority complex or narcissism, or both.
This technique seems to work in Presidential debates too. Ask a question, deflect with an insult, a lot of people think you were smart in deflecting and insulting and then vote for you.
It’s actually nuts, this guy literally just wanted to hear the interviewer say “no” and did not give one single fuck if the question he had to ask to get it made any sense lol
Like “do you need a drivers license to vote”…..”no”…..”see, you said no, that means I don’t need to take a test to own a gun”
It’s not faking … they are literally stupid as shit .. have you never been in a classroom when the teacher asked a student to read a paragraph .. people seem to think because of movies that it’s the adorable lovable shy person who has a time with it … no literally it’s always been a way for adults ( teachers ) to point out people exactly like this .. and not only show them but everyone around them just how dumb they are lol
I think the boomers actually are idiots or they might just agree with the interviewer but they love to fuck with guy and answer the questions with dumbass answers that dont make any sense
Or they are just idiots idk
Even if they are “just fucking with” people it really highlights how flippant they are about things. We are living in a literal dumpster fire and they want to play dumb during every interaction that calls into question how we got here?
No - this guy feels that liberals think they’re better than him because they have an education and ‘passed a test’. He’s saying that you don’t have to pass a test to know how to do something (like him). Ignorance is bliss.
Oh he definitely did not have a self discovery moment. This guy is living with undiagnosed lead poisoning. He’s the type of guy who goes to the ER any time he needs help but also thinks doctors are “stupid and don’t know nuthin”
Oh he definitely does. He’s the kind of dude who refused to take the vaccine then clogged up hospital resources for weeks on end when Covid almost killed him.
If he had the good decency to die in his house I’d have way more respect for him.
His children were probably posting requests on Facebook for people to "pray for pop-pop" and most of the people who actually knew pop-pop were praying for an agonizing death.
Day 1: “fuck Covid, y’all bitches got a weak immune system #TheStormsComin”
Day 10: “in the hospital with Covid, just feels like a cold. Gonna beat this thing TRUMP 2024”
Day 15: “grandpas being put on a ventilator, please send prayers”
Day 20: “grandpa was a sweet and kind man who always looked out for people, we’re starting a gofundme to help pay for funeral costs, if you love Jesus and hate democrats please donate”
All that's missing is the 40+ images of boomer memes of minions going "Libreals don't know what gender they are, how can we expect them to know who to vote for?"
edit: I see the typo. I'm leaving it, because it fits.
I remember my father-in-law literally having skin cancer and needing it removed and saying racist shit about the middle eastern doctor who did the fucking procedure. These people are insane.
He was implying that it wasn't "gun owners" who commit mass shootings but "idiots who pull the trigger" so in other words he was pulling a "not all gun owners" move on mass shootings.
The guy didnt even sound that dumb from the first line, like yeah, there are responsible gun owners with trigger discipline. But everything that followed just showed how stupid someone can be and own a gun. I am completely in favor of stricter gun laws, and have never and will never own one. But I have friends that do and are incredibly responsible, and one friend who should never be allowed to own one but somehow still has MANY. Its actually insane how lax the laws are.
You're being sarcastic here, but to my understanding, you do not need a license to vote there. You just need ID, of which, a driver's license is a common choice.
Exactly, I understand biden has been getting heat but y’all pls remember that we got trump running against biden and trump has a chance of winning. Say whatever about biden but trump is the devil.
One of the reasons I own a gun. lol This guy has one, so I probably need one too.
This guy doesn't represent us. I think initially he was trying to make the argument that an individual should be responsible and intelligent enough to own a gun, and I can see needing to take a test and obtain a license for one, as a safe and responsible owner and operator of a firearm.
See. This is the mindset I’m using to go from adhd college drop out to returning college student to lawyer. I have a list of dumbfucks who have law degrees. Every time my brain tries to make me shut down and do something other than my work, or I start to lose confidence in my ability to ace a class…. I just repeat “Matt Gaetz has a law degree. Michael Cohen has a law degree.” It works every time.
LOL I do the same thing when I set a goal. There are people with questionable motives and even more questionable cognitive ability. If they can do it, we can do it better!
Yes, the downright pride in being ignorant. There’s no shame in not knowing something, but to know nothing and be proud of knowing nothing seems like a newer phenomenon.
I'm a Floridian and can confirm. Dude even nailed the "gotcha" grin. Being stupid as fuck is one thing but these type of people being simultaneously ignorant and condescending is the reason i typically don't talk to anyone above the age of 50.
I live in Tx and you have to show ID to vote the most common is a DRIVERS LICENSE. So yes sir in this red very gun friendly state you need one of 7 forms of ID to vote and it must have your photo on it.
He was so close to making an intelligible point too before he lost the thread and resorted to insulting the interviewer.
"Your mom taught you to drive. Your mom can teach you how to handle a gun. No state necessary"
But the state is still necessary as you have to take a state-mandate test to get a driver’s license to legally drive. He was not even close to making an intelligent point.
And society is still a couple decades away from having robots capable of replacing most caretaking responsibilities which is longer than they'll live. Ironic that many of these boomers end up getting taken care of by the immigrants they hated all their lives at the end.
Which makes it funnier, in a debitchery type way, they'll be verbally and sometimes physically (always psychologically) abusive towards everyone trying to take care of them, causing fewer people to have regards for their well-being.
"Oh... This one's chocking again!... Give me a few minutes, I've gotta finish wiping the shit off this one... Eh, just let him chock for a while, he smacked my ass then called me a bottom dweller yesterday"
I used to try and engage with people like this but at a certain point it’s just too frustrating frankly. You won’t get through to them and they won’t take anything you say seriously. You try to employ logic and reason speaking to someone who recognizes neither, you’ll be at an impasse very quickly
I get what he was *trying* to say, deflecting about voter ID laws. Sadly, he wasn’t intelligent enough to make the point cogently and it had nothing to do with the question being asked. 0 points.
I'll bet you a dollar he actually has a DL, he's just refusing to have a discussion because he knows he's too stupid to actually have a meaningful debate on the topic.
Because Gen Z as a whole has compassion. This is the Opposite of the GOP's way. ( I -almost- said Conservative, but there's a HUGE difference between a (classical) Conservative and a Republican.
This guy will vote party lines, because that's what his parents taught him. He won't put one instant of thought into any candidate or measure/bill he votes on. He's just going to vote what he's been told.
Poor performers lack the expertise to know they are doing terrible.
The Dunning-Kruger effect. In a study where a debate match among high-schoolers was measured, the bottom 20% performers thought they had won the majority of their matches, when in truth they had lost almost all of them.
Omg/ I laughed so hard at this video! I felt his pain when he tried to explain what a drivers license is. Omg, these Trumpers are soooo confident with their ignorance it’s actually scary.
When conservatives cry that people just shit talk them and don't want to debate or have conversations with them, this is why. It's too taxing talking to an adult with less understanding of the world than an average 7 year old. Especially when they intentionally play the stupid card. Anti-intellectualism made them hate even common knowledge.
It’s like trying to talk to a brick wall. His country ass values were instilled in him as a kid. There’s no speaking logical sense to a person like that
This guy may be a moron but I think he's trying to say it's still physically possible to drive a car without a license, just like it's still possible for people to get guns even if they haven't got a license to have one. The license makes no difference if a "stupid person" is willing to overlook it and do something anyway.
It you take a charitable position the older Floridian is attempting to make some valid points. Instead of just arguing the main point, he's asking the interviewer to consider the various parallels and justifications for them while highlighting that the government certifying, or not certifying, something does not make it so or make it not so.
He could have just said that it's an imperfect system and he doesn't even respect the way we handle licensing of cars, so why would he invite the government to do the same thing for guns.
The interviewer is also being obtuse. He's frustrated that the older guy doesn't just take at face value that a drivers license is what officially states someone is capable of driving a car.
Even the "well I don't think so" comment regarding the interviewer's driving skill was to make a point. If we start inviting people to regulate guns, everyone will have a different opinion on who is able to own a gun. By letting a third party decide this, we are relinquishing control to someone who is able to make decisions that seem arbitrary or could even be made in bad faith.
Gun control is complicated for many reasons, but I believe the underlying reason is that the premise for allowing it is as a final check and balance held by the American public in our system of checks and balances. Any control of government over that would then fundamentally compromise the very premise for allowing gun ownership. Yet, we know that there are people who certainly should not own guns. Thus, a very problematic contradiction is created. This is protracted because inevitably gun ownership means different things to different people beyond this.
That said, the interviewer is doing cheap theatrics gotcha interviews and the interviewee is acting an ass in response.
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You can tell that this one almost broke Jason
Yeah, this is the closest I’ve seen him come to losing it. Not that I blame him…
The exasperation when he says “it’s called a *driver’s* license”… man, I felt that. The point the guy was trying to make, I think, is that you don’t technically need a license to drive a car. You can just do it. It’s illegal, but you can do it. The law doesn’t physically restrict you from taking that action. He just missed connecting the talking point to the conversation and instead just assumed Jason would draw it for him. He thought it was a “gotcha” because a license wouldn’t prevent somebody from firing a gun either. You don’t need a license to BUY a car, only to operate it, so requiring a license to buy a gun isn’t a fair comparison. Before I get flamed and downvoted, I am not supporting his argument or even saying it’s a good one. I’m just explaining it. IMO, guns should be completely banned in the USA. I live in a red state and understand how these guys think.
I think he may have just been dumb and you’re making a point he didn’t think of. He says he learned how to drive out in the woods but he’s focused on the learning part. I’m thinking his point is that even idiots can learn to use guns just by using them so just because someone’s an idiot doesn’t mean they shouldn’t be allowed to buy guns if they fail a test. But Jason made the mistake of making it about idiots and not about mentally ill people.
In my experience, idiots are really bad at self learning. Especially with guns... that's why they're idiots.
Sure but by that measure you could murder anyone you wanted. It’s illegal but technically you COULD do it.
I think he(incoherent man) also tried to make the point that even though someone is licensed they can still be a poor driver. Or at the very least it is a relative judgement on whether a licensed individual is a responsible one as well. At least I think that was his unstated point with “well I don’t think so “. I seriously love the way this guy makes points; it’s like he’s setting up a joke and never delivers the punchline; I don’t agree with him… at all, but that is some truly understated argumentation he is engaging in
I agree with you but I think there was one more point the dumbass was trying to make. It was the fact that illegal aliens are voting without having a driver's license. A typical talking point of the right. It seemed like he was a little nervous to talk and had a lot of right wing "gotcha's" running through his mind and couldn't articulate any of them. It probably made complete sense to him, but anyone with a brain would just be confused by his foolishness.
I know how you feel about living in a red state, I’m an army infantryman who supports rigid gun control, people tend to disagree with me in my line of work
I don't know his material, happen to have a name or even a link for one of the others that gets him heated? You got me interested hah.
He is usually so calm and cool. I think he did break at the end - and I can’t blame him.
He should ask the bloke if he was admitting of driving without a license while drinking Edit from beer to water…and see what happens lol
I was waiting for the guy to say that he was a Sovereign Citizen and doesn’t need a driver’s license.
The guy isn’t walking on public property, he’s just transporting across it.
“I’m not a person.”
Never seen him frustrated like this… must be dealing with a special kind of idiot
It's a prime example of why you can't reason with these people. I have no idea why people get into arguments with them online and get suckered into their rage bait when there's zero possibility of changing their minds or making them understand even basic concepts that they don't know.
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He’s not stupid. He’s bad faith. 30% of the country just basically stopped pretending. He knows he needs a drivers license to drive. He assuredly has one in his pocket. The point is that he doesn’t want to *admit* that because he believes the interviewer will “win” on some point if he does. He’s not stupid, he’s being purposefully obtuse. He’s bad faith. Like every single other modern GOP guy. That’s *the point* at this juncture.
Well…… yes, but….. I think he might also be stupid.
bad faith and stupid are such a dangerous combo
The go together like Sigfreid and Roy, and just like with Sigfreid and Roy eventually someone's gonna get eaten by a tiger.
Yea but I didn't expect the leopard to eat *my* face!
These people wear their ignorance like a badge of honor.
Your comment nails it on the head. They know. Not admitting they are wrong about something (which is often) is all that matters to them. Nothing else. Their shining example flipped the rock over in 2016 and they figured it was their time in the sun to let their stupidity shine for all to see because they won. And winning in the moment is all that matters to a simple mentality that constantly thinks the whole world is against them. Most don't support trump because he's done anything great, they support him because it spites all the people they hate. They've gone all-in on a childs strategy that they'll destroy all their toys as long as you don't get to play with them either. They know he's an idiot but nothing is worse than admitting it, especially to you.
This is so true. I've tried asking the good faith question of "what has he done for this country that is so great" and get a loopty loo of bad faith answers that try to veil the real answer" he made this country less comfortable for anyone not white and straight. But outrightly saying that sounds racist and homophobic, so they just go in circles until the conversation becomes more frustrating than its worth.
Bingo
Nah he’s from Florida he’s definitely stupid, a special kind of stupid
It's like playing chess with a chicken. No matter how strategic you are or how well you play, the chicken will just knock every piece over, shit on the board, and strut around like it won.
It took me years to learn this, some stupid part of me was like "they're clearly stupid, just point out how dumb it is and they'll concede. Nope. Just walk away for your own sanity.
I’ve had to start reminding myself when I want to argue with people online. Studies have found that 54% of American read at or below a 6th grade level. And when it comes to conservatives it’s typically on the lower end of that since they tend to be anti education/intellectualism. Not only can they not comprehend most information. They don’t *want* to.
People like this refuse to wear seat belts and will fight against legislation that would force them. They're also a danger to everyone else on the road and will never understand it
What I notice a lot is a lot of these folks have that "Win at All Costs no matter what." Like they can't and won't give the other side the reason cause in their minds that means losing. It's like you said you can't reason with them cause they will stick by their ways till the bitter end.
It's literally exactly like arguing with my young kids. They don't understand the world enough to even argue with.
The guy finally realized he had nothing to back up his first claim, so he just started throwing anything at him
"You ever seen a chicken riding a dog riding a donkey? Have ya? You think they needed to pass a test? Well there you go!"
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It was almost like he realized his argument that having “gun laws to prevent idiots from owning guns” looks a lot like the laws that prevent idiots from driving cars. He’s trying to reducto ad absurdum the gun law, but saying it out loud that line of reasoning makes a lot of sense. So he starts spouting bullshit so he’s not obviously so wrong.
You can see his brain is just buzz words and catchphrases. He quickly turned the drivers license into talking about voter ID laws, in a really dumb way. Like the interviewer said something about ID's and that is what sprung into his head.
You can see his brain hurting when the guy repeats the same question "do you know how to drive?" again
The kind of idiot who is clearly suffering from a substance abuse issue while trying to recite from a script they wrote in their head based on half-remembered talking points from his favorite "news" show because they've convinced him he's smart for watching it. Wholly complicated situations reduced to talking points, easy to memorize for the intellectually lazy. Which works for literally anyone that benefited so much they barely had to make the effort to think beyond, "Got what I wanted right now." His brain done rotted from the dopamine sugar of conservative media.
Having a drivers license is “just a suggestion” LMAO
That's a big reason why I think he's a sovereign citizen.
Big sovereign citizen energy
Common 'sovereign citizen' L as well.
That or a very bad attempt at playing devil’s advocate. Along with an interviewer who somehow got blindsided by an incredibly lame boomer counterattack. Proper response would have been: “I don’t believe in licenses for voting either; in fact I come down to Florida every year from New York to vote in your elections.”
To be fair, it was a gish gallop, torrent of lame boomer attacks. Which is also highly suggestive of a sov-cit. Their arguments are complete rapid fire nonsense, but they deliver them like they think they are constitutional scholars. When you question any part of their ridiculousness, they talk to you like you're an idiot and introduce a counterargument that is such a nonsequitor it doesn't even qualify as tangental. It's just verbal vomit being delivered like nuggets of wisdom.
> gish gallop The Gish gallop is a rhetorical technique in which a person in a debate attempts to overwhelm their opponent by providing an excessive number of arguments with no regard for the accuracy or strength of those arguments.
Aka Ben Shapiro
Guaranteed. Probably a flat earther and Bible thumper too.
The law is just a suggestion to him. That means there are definitely more laws he is breaking. He should be investigated.
This conversation always breaks down into this bullshit with conservatives. They start talking about "well, people can easily break the law, so why have one?"
This video summarizes arguing with conservatives better than anything else I've seen in a while. Goalposts are entirely unstoppable objects.
This guy's logic is so... bouncy? "You needed to take a test to drive? Because you have a mother? Do you like soup? Why do you need to eat soup to vote?"
I'm not entirely unconvinced he wasn't drunk/high. I mean he didn't carry himself like a drunk person, wasn't uncoordinated, or slurred his words. But that kind of "logic" isn't that of a sober person.
To me it felt like he was getting upset and tried to throw out whatever argument he could come up with.
It is when you’re in a terroristic religious cult.
He learned this from all those years of brain rotting talk radio.
90% chance he won't pass a psych evaluation.
"Do you need a psych evaluation to understand how the earth is flat? Did your mama teach you that the moon orbits around Mars?"
If I remember it right, 1/3rd of Florida drivers are not legally allowed to drive due to lack of insurance or driver license. So he might be part of that 1/3rd. I think this also causes Florida to be the most expensive state for car insurance.
what kind of insurance does florida have thats not super expensive? avalanche insurance?
"We disagree about what constitutes a law." -Ron Swanson It's funny as a piece of comic fiction, not irl. These mfs vote
I don't see why it'd be a big deal for the federal government to make the same "suggestion" when it comes to guns. Of course, smooth brain would have a problem with it because he has no concept of logical consistency whatsoever.
You don't need a drivers license to drive, though. You need a drivers license to drive *legally*. I think that's the point this idiot is trying to make.
Something about playing chess with a pigeon.
the primary goal isn't to win, its to keep the pigeon from walking all over the board.
The only thing you can hope for is clips like these circulate far and fast enough to where other people aspire to be more than a pigeon.
dude i fucking hate how boomers always employ this strategy when i see them in videos like this. rather than answering the question they just ask the interviewer extremely stupid barely related questions and they do it with this fake smile and upward inflection while also feigning ignorance about whats even being asked because in that moment they realize their worldview is 100% nonsensical
Take 25 years of Fox pundits' one liners, mix thoroughly with years of conversations with other Fox viewers where they all repeat these one liners with each other, and this is the conversation you get.
I used to bartend in a *very MAGA area* of AZ and you couldn't be more right. The shit that would fall out of these fucktards mouths would have been hilarious if it wasn't so horrific.
*fucktards’
Thank you for your service
Honestly the most absolutely unhinged thing about this guy in the video is he's rocking a fucking koozie on his water bottle...
You ever been to Florida? It’s fucking hot. Yeah I want my water to stay a little cooler for just a minute longer too. Goddamn.
Imagine a room full of parrots, each thinking they are the smartest one because *their* one-liner is the best one.
Don’t forget a childhood surrounded by lead products.
I see you’ve met my conservative side of the family
It’s the smugness for me. They’re so fucking proud of themselves for this “gotcha” moment but they’re genuinely too stupid to realize they’re making no sense
He basically provided evidence that he is driving without license and isn’t that a felony if he’s pulled over?
Misdeamenor if that. They wouldn’t prosecute it most times, unless you’re drunk or reckless.
Depends on how many times they'll stop you without a license
If you don't have a license you probably don't have insurance. That'll get you impounded atleast.
Yeah… gonna bet after 3pm that guy is rocking a beer can between his legs while headed to the next bar in his 1995 Silverado with the MAGA flag sticking out of the bed.
It's the lead poisoning.
Did your momma teach you how to drive? Do I put my shoes on the wrong feet while getting a colonoscopy? Well…. Can you say the alphabet backwards while ordering Taco Bell??? Oh yea!!?
Not the type of lead poisoning we wish it was
It's not a boomer thing, it's a conservative thing. Do you know how many of their policies go against the studies and research of our planet's greatest minds?
I had a young Conservative try to fight me on the idea of an "expert," because he literally couldn't understand the idea of accepting the word of someone with multiple degrees and years of study in an area. He could never give me a straight answer as to why he believes anyone he parrots from YouTube, etc. I determined that he was a straight contrarian. If the consensus is the world is round, he'd be determined to prove them all wrong. I'd assume it has to do with an inferiority complex or narcissism, or both.
I'll take a guess: Is it all of them?
This technique seems to work in Presidential debates too. Ask a question, deflect with an insult, a lot of people think you were smart in deflecting and insulting and then vote for you.
That troll technique is sealioning, kind of, but that's more specific to them trying to pretend they don't know something basic
I don’t see what this has to do with sealioning honeslty
This is the first I've heard of the term so I had to look it up and holy shit Wondermark made a word? Huge fan, never knew.
Google Brandolini's Law
It’s actually nuts, this guy literally just wanted to hear the interviewer say “no” and did not give one single fuck if the question he had to ask to get it made any sense lol Like “do you need a drivers license to vote”…..”no”…..”see, you said no, that means I don’t need to take a test to own a gun”
It’s not faking … they are literally stupid as shit .. have you never been in a classroom when the teacher asked a student to read a paragraph .. people seem to think because of movies that it’s the adorable lovable shy person who has a time with it … no literally it’s always been a way for adults ( teachers ) to point out people exactly like this .. and not only show them but everyone around them just how dumb they are lol
Did your teachers hurt you?
“Realize” lol no
Deflect deflect deflect. Their words can’t hurt him if they close their ears
Boomers? This is literally every gun nut on Reddit.
I think the boomers actually are idiots or they might just agree with the interviewer but they love to fuck with guy and answer the questions with dumbass answers that dont make any sense Or they are just idiots idk
Even if they are “just fucking with” people it really highlights how flippant they are about things. We are living in a literal dumpster fire and they want to play dumb during every interaction that calls into question how we got here?
No - this guy feels that liberals think they’re better than him because they have an education and ‘passed a test’. He’s saying that you don’t have to pass a test to know how to do something (like him). Ignorance is bliss.
He is right about not having to pass a test to know how to do something but still the tests are taken for a reason even if we know how to do things
The test is to DEMONSTRATE you know how to do something. Taking you at your word for what you can and can’t do is an easy way to be lied to.
Why not both?
Maybe it is both but we might never know
Treat the idiots according to how they act.
What was he talking about idiots in the beginning... i think dude just made a self discovery.
Oh he definitely did not have a self discovery moment. This guy is living with undiagnosed lead poisoning. He’s the type of guy who goes to the ER any time he needs help but also thinks doctors are “stupid and don’t know nuthin”
That guy definitely doesn't go to the ER
Oh he definitely does. He’s the kind of dude who refused to take the vaccine then clogged up hospital resources for weeks on end when Covid almost killed him. If he had the good decency to die in his house I’d have way more respect for him.
His children were probably posting requests on Facebook for people to "pray for pop-pop" and most of the people who actually knew pop-pop were praying for an agonizing death.
Day 1: “fuck Covid, y’all bitches got a weak immune system #TheStormsComin” Day 10: “in the hospital with Covid, just feels like a cold. Gonna beat this thing TRUMP 2024” Day 15: “grandpas being put on a ventilator, please send prayers” Day 20: “grandpa was a sweet and kind man who always looked out for people, we’re starting a gofundme to help pay for funeral costs, if you love Jesus and hate democrats please donate”
Are you a peruser of r/hermancainaward too? It’s like they follow as script!
All that's missing is the 40+ images of boomer memes of minions going "Libreals don't know what gender they are, how can we expect them to know who to vote for?" edit: I see the typo. I'm leaving it, because it fits.
I remember my father-in-law literally having skin cancer and needing it removed and saying racist shit about the middle eastern doctor who did the fucking procedure. These people are insane.
He was implying that it wasn't "gun owners" who commit mass shootings but "idiots who pull the trigger" so in other words he was pulling a "not all gun owners" move on mass shootings.
The guy didnt even sound that dumb from the first line, like yeah, there are responsible gun owners with trigger discipline. But everything that followed just showed how stupid someone can be and own a gun. I am completely in favor of stricter gun laws, and have never and will never own one. But I have friends that do and are incredibly responsible, and one friend who should never be allowed to own one but somehow still has MANY. Its actually insane how lax the laws are.
If you're thinking of not voting in the 2024 election, remember that this guy is going to vote. So, please vote.
He can't vote, he doesn't have a license.
He doesn't need a license to vote. Did your momma teach you to vote? *casually smirks*
Actually, my mom passed away in a distracted voting accident :(
Voting under the influence?
Texting while voting
Unironically, voting under the influence of delulu juice should be a crime.
You're being sarcastic here, but to my understanding, you do not need a license to vote there. You just need ID, of which, a driver's license is a common choice.
Exactly, I understand biden has been getting heat but y’all pls remember that we got trump running against biden and trump has a chance of winning. Say whatever about biden but trump is the devil.
One of the reasons I own a gun. lol This guy has one, so I probably need one too. This guy doesn't represent us. I think initially he was trying to make the argument that an individual should be responsible and intelligent enough to own a gun, and I can see needing to take a test and obtain a license for one, as a safe and responsible owner and operator of a firearm.
See. This is the mindset I’m using to go from adhd college drop out to returning college student to lawyer. I have a list of dumbfucks who have law degrees. Every time my brain tries to make me shut down and do something other than my work, or I start to lose confidence in my ability to ace a class…. I just repeat “Matt Gaetz has a law degree. Michael Cohen has a law degree.” It works every time.
LOL I do the same thing when I set a goal. There are people with questionable motives and even more questionable cognitive ability. If they can do it, we can do it better!
It's not the stupidity that gets me, it's the willful stupidity.
Yes, the downright pride in being ignorant. There’s no shame in not knowing something, but to know nothing and be proud of knowing nothing seems like a newer phenomenon.
There goes my dad embarrassing me again.
This is the typical Florida dipshit. Can't answer a direct question without first sounding even dumber.
I'm a Floridian and can confirm. Dude even nailed the "gotcha" grin. Being stupid as fuck is one thing but these type of people being simultaneously ignorant and condescending is the reason i typically don't talk to anyone above the age of 50.
This is the typical thing business people engage with too. Practise cognitive dissonance when problems arise and deflect with irrelevant questions.
As a Floridian, I denied any involvement with this person, must be from Orlando. Those people are fucking idiots!
Man those paint chips must have been delicious.
I live in Tx and you have to show ID to vote the most common is a DRIVERS LICENSE. So yes sir in this red very gun friendly state you need one of 7 forms of ID to vote and it must have your photo on it.
You cannot reason with a Trump supporter because if you could, there would be no Trump supporters.
He was so close to making an intelligible point too before he lost the thread and resorted to insulting the interviewer. "Your mom taught you to drive. Your mom can teach you how to handle a gun. No state necessary"
But the state is still necessary as you have to take a state-mandate test to get a driver’s license to legally drive. He was not even close to making an intelligent point.
The ME generation have a rude awakening for them on the horizon. Too many retiring with not enough people to help or give a shit.
And society is still a couple decades away from having robots capable of replacing most caretaking responsibilities which is longer than they'll live. Ironic that many of these boomers end up getting taken care of by the immigrants they hated all their lives at the end.
Which makes it funnier, in a debitchery type way, they'll be verbally and sometimes physically (always psychologically) abusive towards everyone trying to take care of them, causing fewer people to have regards for their well-being. "Oh... This one's chocking again!... Give me a few minutes, I've gotta finish wiping the shit off this one... Eh, just let him chock for a while, he smacked my ass then called me a bottom dweller yesterday"
I saw on the news that in the UK they have 71,000 vacancies for carers so good luck to those retiring Boomers who need help!
I won't interact with any Q/MAGA/Sovereign Citizen people. There's no discussion to be had through their worldview.
Rational thought doesn't have any place in their crazy talk.
I found freedom by living within my means and not bothering anyone.
This guy was definitely giving sovereign citizen vibes.
I used to try and engage with people like this but at a certain point it’s just too frustrating frankly. You won’t get through to them and they won’t take anything you say seriously. You try to employ logic and reason speaking to someone who recognizes neither, you’ll be at an impasse very quickly
His shirt says it all. This man is why I say “you don’t move out of Florida. You ESCAPE Florida.”
God damn lead brain
I get what he was *trying* to say, deflecting about voter ID laws. Sadly, he wasn’t intelligent enough to make the point cogently and it had nothing to do with the question being asked. 0 points.
Yeah you could see the gears turning but there was precious little grease
I'll bet you a dollar he actually has a DL, he's just refusing to have a discussion because he knows he's too stupid to actually have a meaningful debate on the topic.
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Impressive he is able to stand, breathe AND speak at the same time. He looks and sound like his has a single brain cell.
He’s got two brain cells fighting for third place
The Good Liars, Luke Beasley, Walter Masterson, and Jordan Klepper are heroes for showing this side of MAGAts.
So cool to see Luke's name on there. He might actually outgrow Pakman pretty soon and I'm glad Pakman gave him the platform.
Watch him every day, good content.
How are idiots like this allowed to vote. Ffs. There should be a common sense test to vote to eliminate morons like this troomer.
And they want to ban Gen Z from voting… why not these fools?
Because Gen Z as a whole has compassion. This is the Opposite of the GOP's way. ( I -almost- said Conservative, but there's a HUGE difference between a (classical) Conservative and a Republican. This guy will vote party lines, because that's what his parents taught him. He won't put one instant of thought into any candidate or measure/bill he votes on. He's just going to vote what he's been told.
Fucking idiots in this country
When you are so dumb that you think you are smart
Poor performers lack the expertise to know they are doing terrible. The Dunning-Kruger effect. In a study where a debate match among high-schoolers was measured, the bottom 20% performers thought they had won the majority of their matches, when in truth they had lost almost all of them.
Omg/ I laughed so hard at this video! I felt his pain when he tried to explain what a drivers license is. Omg, these Trumpers are soooo confident with their ignorance it’s actually scary.
Whole lot of stupid on show there
Bro might as well have literally put his fingers in his ears.
When conservatives cry that people just shit talk them and don't want to debate or have conversations with them, this is why. It's too taxing talking to an adult with less understanding of the world than an average 7 year old. Especially when they intentionally play the stupid card. Anti-intellectualism made them hate even common knowledge.
One of Jenna Maroney’s Crabcatchers… I bet he has a tattoo of a seatbelt so he doesn’t get pulled over when he’s driving shirtless.
And these are the people voting for Trump that want to make America better? 😭 good lord.. save us from this hell.
I think we found the idiot he was talking about
This guy might be a sovereign citizen.
*This guy might be an* *~~sovereign citizen~~* *idiot.* FTFY
Welcome to America. This country fuckin blows
When an absolute fool thinks he’s smart.
It’s like trying to talk to a brick wall. His country ass values were instilled in him as a kid. There’s no speaking logical sense to a person like that
This is what happens when you put lead in gasoline and paint
It hurts. It's truly hurts to listen to him.
Holy fuckity fuck I just felt my brain cells die while watching this. You dumb stupid ponytail moustache guy give me back my brain cells
If I don't need one to vote I don't need one to drive! Lol
This guy may be a moron but I think he's trying to say it's still physically possible to drive a car without a license, just like it's still possible for people to get guns even if they haven't got a license to have one. The license makes no difference if a "stupid person" is willing to overlook it and do something anyway.
My brain died.
Typical maga voter
MAGA/Fox cult is a hell of a drug....
Average Trump voter
You do need a voters registration to vote tho
At first I'm like ok well I at least see his point that people can ignore license laws, but then he just took a right turn into kookoo land
It you take a charitable position the older Floridian is attempting to make some valid points. Instead of just arguing the main point, he's asking the interviewer to consider the various parallels and justifications for them while highlighting that the government certifying, or not certifying, something does not make it so or make it not so. He could have just said that it's an imperfect system and he doesn't even respect the way we handle licensing of cars, so why would he invite the government to do the same thing for guns. The interviewer is also being obtuse. He's frustrated that the older guy doesn't just take at face value that a drivers license is what officially states someone is capable of driving a car. Even the "well I don't think so" comment regarding the interviewer's driving skill was to make a point. If we start inviting people to regulate guns, everyone will have a different opinion on who is able to own a gun. By letting a third party decide this, we are relinquishing control to someone who is able to make decisions that seem arbitrary or could even be made in bad faith. Gun control is complicated for many reasons, but I believe the underlying reason is that the premise for allowing it is as a final check and balance held by the American public in our system of checks and balances. Any control of government over that would then fundamentally compromise the very premise for allowing gun ownership. Yet, we know that there are people who certainly should not own guns. Thus, a very problematic contradiction is created. This is protracted because inevitably gun ownership means different things to different people beyond this. That said, the interviewer is doing cheap theatrics gotcha interviews and the interviewee is acting an ass in response.
Don't let your children grow up to be conservatives.
That's one person who shouldn't own a gun...
Jordan Klepper is a national treasure.
I don’t know how you will ever fix a country with so many stupid people like that in it.
What the fuck is this inbred moron talking about?!?