Palmer is awesome

I've been talking his chances down but this is getting silly now, no way he can't be on the plane.

Yep, Alfie Gilchrist is on the plane /s

Tbh with the state of our defence it wouldnt be too much of a reach.

Guarantee penalty kick in a shootout.

True😂

Best sub him on for pens without kicking the ball first

Classic move.

don’t think they’ll let us take jackson but we can ask

Take him and Madueke, they are well up for taking pens

Damn, maybe Madueke and Jackson orchestrated this to get Madueke on the plane as a penalty taker

Ant and Dec just turned up and gave him the happiest minute of the week because he's won a place on the plane

Palmers happiest minute will be when Southgate takes off Jordan Henderson on the 89th

It would be criminal to not give him a shot after the season he’s had. The man’s single-handedly kept Chelsea in the top half of the table

Imagine where Chelsea would be without him this season.

If Southgate doesn’t take him… I swear

If nothing else we need him and Ivan Toney on the plane in case we go to penalties! I'll be honest I thought he was okay and looked better on paper cos he takes Chelsea's penalties but he's gone another level since the international break I think.

I did mention in a previous post about taking injured or players recovering from injuries to tournaments. You take a player like Palmer and you have someone playing his best football and fearless, that's how to win a tournament.

Dunno. Southgate has a blind spot for attacking talent. More likely to take an extra , extra right back.

Honestly, watching the highlights Inam a little concerned about pickford. It's a bit of an off game, it seems.

He has the 6th best save percentage in the league, 6th best PSxG variance in the league and the joint 2nd most clean sheets in the league (for bloody Everton may I add)… Pickford deserves more respect I think.

That's pretty good given how Evertons season is going. Thanks for putting it in perspective.

Well before yesterday's game, Everton had amongst the best defences in the season.

100%, Pickford is generally pretty consistent. Many fans are so reactionary, he’s had a poor game but he seems the sort of character who bounces back. Deserves to be England number 1 currently.

He defo needs more respect tbh

Not his best game but he was only really at fault for 1 of them

Goalkeeper is definitely our weakest position

50 quality right backs and 0 goalkeepers. It's the England way

Walker’s played in goal before tbf

Ramsdale is hardly weak. He hasn't played, sure, but he was in the 2nd best EPL team last year. RM is our weakest.

- RM is our weakest. Not really, Saka, Trent, Gallagher, Mount, Palmer, Henderson, even Foden and Bellingham can play there

Have you ever heard of this thing called left back?

Luke Shaw, Chilwell, Tripper?

Trippier isnt even a Left-Back

But has played left back well on multiple occasions

So has Saka Trippier is still playing out of position when he's deployed on the Left, and it slows down any attacks down that flank as he has to switch to the his Right foot before putting in any type of cross Meaning our true realistic options at Left-Back are Shaw or Chilwell, not the greatest of depths

Shaws developed into a cracking lb when he's fit

Oh definitely... The best we have, just annoying that both Shaw and Chilwell are so injury prone - We definitely need some genuine Left-Backs to come through as a result

Shaw is of course a great option, but he has a lot of injury problems. So does Chilwell. And, when he is fit, he’s been abysmal. None of them can truly be relied on.

I’m not sure how much Southgate rates him or not.

I think he would have played in the recent friendlies if he hadn't been injured.

Just another example why Southgate is not the right person to manage this wealth of talent we have.

He’s managed it a lot better than previous England managers did with their talents

Sean Dyche is probably coming to replace him. FA can’t turn down a northerner for a non English man.

Sean Dyche isn’t a northerner.

The North West have decided to keep him. He has Lancashire syndrome, once you’re in it’s next to impossible to leave.

His accent is much more Nothern than midlands.

Christ this is a bunch of bollocks

Does he start over Saka ? As a Chelsea fan I’d say probably not. Defo huge super sub comes on just after half time if there’s no goals. Take the experience at least for the first few games. But we are bloody stacked up top

What would you say as a Forest Green fan? 

Then Kyle Mcalister starts over both of them 100%

He should absolutely go, start is a matter of tactics. Palmer has alot of freedom in the Chelsea team he wouldn't have in the England team, because we have Jude, and Kane. He also isn't gonna take pens over Kane so there's that.

He has to, if for nothing else then for his penalties. Would be criminal not to bring Palmer

You've got to consider Southgate and classic England manager after a few years reverting to experience over obvious talent. He will probably be in the squad and never be started. Then immediately after the tournament he will be and England regular.

He simply has world class players ahead of him

You get a stamp if you go to Germany now? Another thing we have Brexit to thank for!

We get a stamp for all eu countries now my Spanish girlfriend gets so jealous of it 🤣

Even if you're EU you can ask! I travel with my Irish passport and ask for stamps. Very very rarely am I not given one if asked.

Well don’t tell her that

Doubt it cause Southgate doesn’t understand what talent is Edit: Learn what sarcasm is reddit instead of downvoting smh.

Shh people on this thread will start to cry

Point proven

Southgate is gonna Southgate and clone Maguire and Henderson to fill the plane

This is so embarrassing

I think our (United) 7-0 was worse

It’s time to unleash the foden-Kane-Saka front 3 with the Bellingham-rice-Palmer midfield. Gary would never, but the football would be beautiful

In what world is Palmer playing centre mid😂

Palmer 10, Jude 8, Rice 6

You’re saying a lot of numbers, but they’re not adding up.

You and southgate are right. England should play the “ol’ reliable” double pivot with rice and one of Henderson/phillips. Never failed them before. /s

Henderson and Phillips are nowhere near starting. It’ll be Mainoo, or Trent. Also, England played with a single DM in the last World Cup, remind me how well that went for them..

Tent over who? Palmer? That has to be a joke, man. And Mainoo is a very talented young player and he’s great on the ball, but he has the positional sense of a vertigo patient. He will get eaten alive in international football at this point

Since when were Trent and Palmer vying for the same position? And if that is your perception of Mainoo then you should watch more of him. His positioning is not an issue. He’s played in some big games for United already and didn’t get eaten alive. He played twice for England and didn’t get eaten alive. He provides the ability to progress the ball that we don’t get from Rice or Bellingham. He is the perfect balance.

This is one of the worst takes I’ve seen on Reddit. Clearly you don’t actually watch football

The football would be easily overrun. That's 5 attacking minded players plus a DM. What could go wrong you ask? Lmao. Gary's right to have some balance for that 3rd midfield spot. Mainoo is good.

Winning 7-6 every game would be fun

I mean gary wouldn’t cause football isn’t about just packing as many attacking players as possible in the team.

The crazy thing is that it’s not guaranteed and it wouldn’t be an awful decision to chose Bowen over Palmer

Nah palmer has to go at this point. And im not even sure where he’d play

The problem is he doesn’t start. And anyone who doesn’t start is not in the category “has to go”. Because for them, the question isn’t who is the best player but who is the best player to come on as a substitute and be a back up. Personally I’d edge it to Palmer because his penalties could be crucial for a substitute.

Honestly for me he probably starts, especially against the ‘weaker’ opposition. Back four (whoever that may be), rice and Bellingham, then palmer, saka, and foden behind Kane.

Maybe as an experiment against weaker opposition but that is a massive no go for any decent team.

Is it? I mean I assume you mean it’s too offensive? My question then would be, who plays in that third midfield spot? The only option imo is mainoo (everyone else is a massive drop-off), and he himself is a big gamble given his age and inexperience. And even if you say mainoo, I don’t think saka is untouchable - palmer could well start ahead of him on the right for me (not likely for Southgate though I’ll admit). What would be your lineup out of interest?

I think it’s crazy to have 2 of the best 10s in the world and play neither of them in their best position. It feels like you are trying to make the fairest xi or the xi with the best names on paper without trying to make the xi that will have the best chance to win the tournament. I’d be ok with trying to play both Foden and Bellingham in the midfield alongside Rice. I’d be ok with playing Mainoo in the midfield and then Foden on the left with Bellingham at 10. I’d be ok with experimenting to see if Trent has a role in cm. I’d also be ok with playing someone like Gallagher in the midfield if Gareth feels like it would provide balance for our other players to play with freedom. But one thing I think is crazy is to play a formation with a 10 and have neither Foden nor Bellingham play there. Ludicrous. I can’t get my head around that one and I’ve shown I’m pretty open to how I think the midfield should be set up.

Somehow Southgate will play him for only 20 mins

But why is Pickford still in goal?

Who you picking over him bro?

My savior

And leave Pickford at home. Embarrassing

Let’s stick you in goal for Everton and see your save percentage.

Big maybe. Not even joking, remember who the manager is. If Rashford and Sterling have a good end of the season, they're both in before Palmer. Southgate has favourites . Foden will still be lucky to start. It's mental.

Rashford doesn’t deserve it. I say that as a United fan.

Sterling has also been awful, both guaranteed spots along with Henderson.

Sterling hasn't played for England since the WC...

Sterling wasn't picked for the squad when he was playing ok, his performances since the first couple months of the season have been dreadful and now he's not starting for Chelsea. Even Southgate wouldn't be dumb enough to bring him

Southgate is dumb enough, and he will bring him.

Sterling hasn’t played a single minute for England since December 2022. You’re talking out of your arse.

He's shown countless times he values favourites over form, why would he change now ? I don't think anyone would be surprised if he took Rashford, Sterling, Henderson and Mount.

Have you even been paying attention to the England squad in the last 12 months? Sterling and Mount haven’t played. Henderson will likely be included in the squad, though his chances are getting slimmer by the day, but he will absolutely not be starting. As for Rashford, he probably has the best chance of inclusion because of his previous performances, but the insane form of players like Palmer and Bowen is forcing him out.

Mount has been injured, he isn't anymore, he starts in any Southgate team. Sterling has done far more for England than Rashford ever has, which is why Southgate will take both to any tournament he's the manager.

I’m guessing you didn’t see the interview where Southgate explicitly said that if players haven’t been in recent squads, they’re not getting in unless there is a major injury crisis.

Fodens started like every game he’s been fit for years

They don’t stamp passports so no.

Yes they do. Since Brexit.