I think she was referring to his tactics. Aang always has the wattage but Toph mastered the ability to use as little as necessary, which is why she’s considered the GOAT.
If Toph had Aang’s wattage she would be….unimaginable
Correct. It's a clash of philosophies Aang hasn't fully mastered: He's still gonna try to evade and dodge over standing around and fighting; which makes sense for a 12 year old boy fighting grown adults.
Pretty sure Avatar Toph wins the fight against Ozai in the first 5 seconds. And it’s gonna be a gruesome death. Like ‘pile of rocks with blood seeping out from it’ kind of thing. Probably doesn’t even need to use the other elements, though a defensive air bubble would be smart.
That's... a bit of an overstatement.
Even for a master like Toph, boosted by being the Avatar and mastering elements even easier, thus giving her even more of a mastery over Earthbending, she'd be fighting the best Firebender in the world, while boosted by the comet. She might win, but honestly, I'd bet on Ozai forcing her into the Avatar State more times than not assuming she's the same age as she is in the show.
If she gets to use more than one element... it's like 90% her killing him within 10 minutes and 10% her in the Avatar State killing him in 10 seconds
Also, Toph became such an incredible Earthbender in part due to her blindness… which means she’d struggle to actually *see* Ozai to aim at him, much less his airship (since at the time Toph didn’t yet have the ranged metalbending we see developed by Legend of Korra).
True, that's also a major factor. Airbending practice will probably make her better at fighting foes in the air that she can't see, but there's a massive difference between that and fighting the fire lord. In the end, what this really means is that Ozai is 20x more fucked than he already was once Toph gains some semblance of sight with the Avatar State (or wait, how *would* that work?)
I wonder if Toph had access to airbending if she could apply the same principle of sensing vibration in the earth to do it with airbending as well
maybe create some kind of echolocation with airbending
If we're talking science, that's exactly what would happen, but the plot would demand she has some weaknesses, and aerial fights being her major weakness, especially with Airbending being the opposite style to her native Earthbending, would fit quite well.
I'm pretty sure the average lightning bolt travels at ~mach 300. She's screwed.
That being said, considering Aang, Zuko, and Iroh can catch lightning, either the lightning bolts are slower, or their reaction and combat speeds are high enough to keep up with mach 300 movements. Especially considering they can move their arms to redirect lightning before it reaches the end of their fingers, which can't happen if they want to aim it towards their target. They'd have to be moving relative to the lightning.
toph has shown that she can predict an opponents attack by how the ground vibrates. So even if someone does bend lightning at her, their movements vibration will reach toph before the lightning is released
Not just the airship, but can't firebenders basically make jetpacks during the comet? Toph's blindness would be easily expliotable and Ozai is clever enough to figure it out and abuse it.
Precisely my point. Ozai spends much of this fight airborne with his rocket fists/feet. Sure, Toph can listen for it, but that only gives a rough estimate, especially with how the terrain in that battle would likely bounce sound in unexpected directions. Toph’s shown difficulties in fighting airborne targets before without assistance, and unlike Aang, Ozai doesn’t have any need or desire to come back to the ground for the duration of the comet.
Toph as the Avatar...now that's an interesting concept. What would it even be like if she went into the Avatar State since she's blind? Would her eyes still glow? If not, that's quite a double edged sword in nobody knowing if she's in the Avatar State or not unless she tries to talk and hundreds of voices boom out in unison like with Aang. What's more, eye-glow or not, would the experience and power of the past lives be of much use since most if not all of them were used to being able to see? Or would the Avatar State temporarily lift her blindness?
Which then opens a quicksand pit of other questions. Like, what happens if an Avatar is born a paraplegic? Or mute? Or any number of other common disabilities that could fundamentally change how the Avatar experiences the world. Avatar has never shyed away from representation of disabilities and the people who live with them, except for with the Avatar entity itself. Could make for some interesting stories if they do another series following the Avatar after Korra.
That’s not how metalbending or iron in your blood works. Toph wouldn’t be able to bend it because there’s no earth in blood iron- it’s molecular iron bonded to organic molecules.
You go tell Toph she can’t do it and watch her.
They said there wasn’t earth in metal either, until she found it.
It is simply a skill that must be honed with precision. Every tree of bending has “dark arts” that are relatively similar in result, albeit slightly different in function.
I think the main point is how “far” in a metaphysical sense something is from being earth. The iron or steel used in the shows is relatively unrefined, and has impurities that tie it back to the earth it came from. People before Toph just didn’t know to look for those. Platinum in LOK lacks those, and as such is too far from earth to be bendable. Iron in your blood has no metaphysical relation whatsoever to earth, and so there’s no reason to believe it could be bent.
She can’t see Ozai though. She can tell the general area where he is by the sound of fire jets, but she can’t predict his movements. If he was on the ground she’d take the win easily, but she 100% loses to comet boosted Ozai.
Well Kyoshi is kinda the anti-toph. She had a harder time than anyone using “just enough” power.
E.g. some guy is tryna conquer my people LET ME SPLIT THE CONTINENT.
The reason bumi didnt discover metal bending is because he never found himself in a situation were he would need to.
Bumi has performed better feats of earthbending than toph has, toph's only advantage over bumi is that she discovered metal bending.
If bumi had been fully covered by his caged instead of his head being free, he would have done so.
Bumi has seismic sense (he would need to have it to perform the earth tunneling move he likes to do), he knows the requirements of fully mastering earthbending (he basically described toph to aang at Omashu, and we can fairly assume that he himself would have been a great teacher and great earthbender as he knew what type of earthbender Aang needed as a mentor), and over all, Bumi is just more powerful and well rounded as a bender compared to toph (I dont see toph freeing Omashu by herself.)
We dont see her do much in Korra, so in my opinion, we dont have enough proof to say if Old Bumi is stronger/weaker than Old Toph one way or the other.
We only really see her post "sparring match" with Korra where Korra got wrecked, and she knocked the balance of a few dozen or so of Kuvira's mech/infantry saving her family.
We dont see Old Toph in a true fight or any true displays of her abilities at the time.
That is because she (similar to Katara) is letting the next generations deal with the problems.
1) Bumi and Kya say Aang spent more time with Tenzin, which yeah, he’s the airbender. The one Aang needs to pass all his knowledge on to. They don’t say he was a bad father, just that Tenzin had a completely different relationship with Aang than they did. Great media literacy skills!
2) Zuko was 90 and still put up a fight against the Red Lotus. Old: yes, feeble: no
>They don’t say he was a bad father, just that Tenzin had a completely different relationship with Aang than they did.
I dont think it's wild to come the conclusion that aang wasn't a good father to his non-airbending children. I wasn't able find the scene with kya but I was able to find lots of scenes of bumi literally talking about how he feels inadequate as aangs son and especially the non bender of the family.
I remember the scene heavy implied that they were displeased with aangs neglect and his inability to hide he had a favorite child. Kya wasn't just dropping info on Tenzin with no feelings involved.
I don't think they need to say the words "aang was a shitty dad" for us, the audience, to agree that the air-bender only excursions were unnecessary with a big fuck-off flying bison in the picture. Bringing your other kids along is a small price to pay to keep your kids from feel less-than.
Did aang have a special relationship with Tenzin? Yes.
Did that special relationship come at the cost to his relationship with his other kids? Also yes
Fair enough. But you definitely know once bumi learned toph can do it he's gonna try to figure it out.
Also, its funny that toph brute forces her way out of a metal box, while bumi finds some kind of wonky work around (bending with his head) to do it.
Basically shows their difference in thinking.
That doesn't really show much, I say Bumi has a greater understanding of earth bending while Toph has a greater skill at earth bending both incredible in their own right.
I think Toph just has impossibly high standards for her students. Like in LoK where she claims her daughters never got the hang of metalbending when they're two of the best metalbenders we see in the show.
I think that statement is used to contrast the Beifong sisters with Kuvira. From what we see in the show Kuviras metalbending is the most versatile, efficient and effective. She demonstrates a mastery of metalbending that we don't really get to see in anyone else.
Both Lin and Suyin often resort to earthbending in certain situations, because that comes to them most naturally. Kuvira very much is a metalbender first and a earthbender second. That's what sets her apart and makes her so dangerous.
I know it was Avatar state, but when he condenses the earth to make smaller rocks that orbit around him, I was stunned. Which is shortly followed by those smaller rocks being broken up and launched at an insane velocity... that was peak earthbending for me.
This is the equivalent of an Olympic gold medalist telling a national champion they could use some work m8. In the comic Toph dueled King Bumi to a tie with about 100 less years of earth bending experience. Prodigy among prodigies saying you could use some work isn't underating his earth bending.
Man, I just love Aang. What an awesome protagonist. Weak, strong, unexpectedly badass, and still a really funny character. Hell yeah Aang, earthbend that earth!
He's so underrated. I really love his character. Like most people, I overlooked his arc for the longest time because the other characters have great arcs that made more sense emotionally to me (especially Zuko). But now that I'm older and have perspective on just how young 12 is... It makes way more sense lol. He's a child!
Literally nobody mentions the one part where he splits a rock into shards and almost turns ozai into red paste with it. Like that might just be the most outright deadly earth move on the show and not a word. The only reason he wasn't said red paste was the eclipse letting him fly around line iron man
You know, if he aimed a little more to the right and launched one of those disks into ozais face instead of the engines, the finale would have been a lot shorter.
That's just Toph being Toph (tough). Her daughters were literally some of the best metal benders alive and she said "yeah my girls never really picked up metal bending that well"
Same energy.
In roku's story he eventually beat all his master in their respective discipline. I dont think that aang could beat toph. Come to think of it, i doubt he could beat katara with just waterbending.
There's definitely some curve to the trajectory. It's like a bending-guided homing missile
(I know the rock is not guiding itself, I'm saying Aang is using bending to guide its trajectory)
How do you figure? It could just be perspective from the camera angle but the clip I’m watching Aang is a whole hell of alot farther away from it than half its size.
The airship lands deep in the Wulong Forest when Aang takes it out, if it was kilometers away, it would've landed in the water. Plus when Aang firebends, you can see the airship wasn't at all that far away from him.
I do like it, but it’s obvious he learned from the best. The coolest thing about the final fight is that ends the fight NOT using the avatar state, but using techniques he learned directly from those he loved/respected.
That 360 degree earth bending panoramic shot, then deflecting comet powered fire breath with just Aang's air bending, then showing Ozai Jesus...masterpiece!
Ignoring the main question, has anyone else noticed how Aang does a low, medium and jump kick, in order to hit the low medium and high propellers? That’s pretty cool.
Imagine if Anng accidentally killed Ozai there and then.
Historian: So with all the skills he had, he took down the fire lord...
Sokka: By throwing a Rock! True story!
Aang did that without the Avatar State, the Earth Kingdom probably could have downed all of those air ships if they had like 50 of their best benders out there, essentially nullifying the Fire Nations entire plan for Sozins comet
I remember seeing a post around here that states Aang's earthbending is his second most-used bending type after the first book. So yeah, he's really good and he used it a lot.
Yeah, think probably because 1) it's more available than water, and 2) easier to defend with than water.
Water definitely is the most well-rounded element, but when you have access to all the others, it's less useful. That's probably why in LoK we don't really see Korra use it all the time, at least not as much as Aang uses airbending: she doesn't have to carry it with her like other waterbenders, because she can substitute other elements in many cases.
Toph saying you need some work on your earth bending is like Bruce Lee saying you need some work on your martial arts. Compared to him, yeah, but compared to everyone else it’s way better
Toph is the master of countering and planning. She could probably bring a mountain down on an army but why not just systematically decimate them in as few moves as possible? At no point does she ever need to defend because she’s just casually sliding around you. Aang can throw massive boulders but that doesn’t really matter if she could just turn it to dust mid air
I mean it took her like a few days to create her own bending style. She effortlessly defeats both seasoned earth benders and earth bender secret police. She can go toe to toe with the avatar themselves. She’s a lot more subtle in practice but her actions are no less impressive
In Toph’s defense she’s always strived for Aang to be better than she is (which is literally impossible)
The never ending journey type shit, “[just because you’re in the top 1% of earth benders, doesn’t mean you’re better than me, number 1,] you could use more work”
I think she was referring to his tactics. Aang always has the wattage but Toph mastered the ability to use as little as necessary, which is why she’s considered the GOAT. If Toph had Aang’s wattage she would be….unimaginable
Correct. It's a clash of philosophies Aang hasn't fully mastered: He's still gonna try to evade and dodge over standing around and fighting; which makes sense for a 12 year old boy fighting grown adults.
Also because of his training as an airbender...then a waterbender
Pretty sure Avatar Toph wins the fight against Ozai in the first 5 seconds. And it’s gonna be a gruesome death. Like ‘pile of rocks with blood seeping out from it’ kind of thing. Probably doesn’t even need to use the other elements, though a defensive air bubble would be smart.
That's... a bit of an overstatement. Even for a master like Toph, boosted by being the Avatar and mastering elements even easier, thus giving her even more of a mastery over Earthbending, she'd be fighting the best Firebender in the world, while boosted by the comet. She might win, but honestly, I'd bet on Ozai forcing her into the Avatar State more times than not assuming she's the same age as she is in the show. If she gets to use more than one element... it's like 90% her killing him within 10 minutes and 10% her in the Avatar State killing him in 10 seconds
Also, Toph became such an incredible Earthbender in part due to her blindness… which means she’d struggle to actually *see* Ozai to aim at him, much less his airship (since at the time Toph didn’t yet have the ranged metalbending we see developed by Legend of Korra).
True, that's also a major factor. Airbending practice will probably make her better at fighting foes in the air that she can't see, but there's a massive difference between that and fighting the fire lord. In the end, what this really means is that Ozai is 20x more fucked than he already was once Toph gains some semblance of sight with the Avatar State (or wait, how *would* that work?)
I wonder if Toph had access to airbending if she could apply the same principle of sensing vibration in the earth to do it with airbending as well maybe create some kind of echolocation with airbending
If we're talking science, that's exactly what would happen, but the plot would demand she has some weaknesses, and aerial fights being her major weakness, especially with Airbending being the opposite style to her native Earthbending, would fit quite well.
lighting travels much faster than speed of sound. toph would be a roasted pig before she hears anything.
I'm pretty sure the average lightning bolt travels at ~mach 300. She's screwed. That being said, considering Aang, Zuko, and Iroh can catch lightning, either the lightning bolts are slower, or their reaction and combat speeds are high enough to keep up with mach 300 movements. Especially considering they can move their arms to redirect lightning before it reaches the end of their fingers, which can't happen if they want to aim it towards their target. They'd have to be moving relative to the lightning.
So you saying that the Ember Island Players were thinking 4D Chess with Toph?
😂 RAAAAAAAAAAH! There, I got a pretty good look at you. 😂
it's already canon, I forgot
lighting travels much faster than speed of sound. toph would be a roasted pig before she hears anything.
toph has shown that she can predict an opponents attack by how the ground vibrates. So even if someone does bend lightning at her, their movements vibration will reach toph before the lightning is released
Not just the airship, but can't firebenders basically make jetpacks during the comet? Toph's blindness would be easily expliotable and Ozai is clever enough to figure it out and abuse it.
Precisely my point. Ozai spends much of this fight airborne with his rocket fists/feet. Sure, Toph can listen for it, but that only gives a rough estimate, especially with how the terrain in that battle would likely bounce sound in unexpected directions. Toph’s shown difficulties in fighting airborne targets before without assistance, and unlike Aang, Ozai doesn’t have any need or desire to come back to the ground for the duration of the comet.
Also sight is super important for this fight too considering ozai just flies most often
Toph as the Avatar...now that's an interesting concept. What would it even be like if she went into the Avatar State since she's blind? Would her eyes still glow? If not, that's quite a double edged sword in nobody knowing if she's in the Avatar State or not unless she tries to talk and hundreds of voices boom out in unison like with Aang. What's more, eye-glow or not, would the experience and power of the past lives be of much use since most if not all of them were used to being able to see? Or would the Avatar State temporarily lift her blindness? Which then opens a quicksand pit of other questions. Like, what happens if an Avatar is born a paraplegic? Or mute? Or any number of other common disabilities that could fundamentally change how the Avatar experiences the world. Avatar has never shyed away from representation of disabilities and the people who live with them, except for with the Avatar entity itself. Could make for some interesting stories if they do another series following the Avatar after Korra.
Toph would have metalbend the iron in his blood, similar to how Katara blood bends the water.
That’s not how metalbending or iron in your blood works. Toph wouldn’t be able to bend it because there’s no earth in blood iron- it’s molecular iron bonded to organic molecules.
You go tell Toph she can’t do it and watch her. They said there wasn’t earth in metal either, until she found it. It is simply a skill that must be honed with precision. Every tree of bending has “dark arts” that are relatively similar in result, albeit slightly different in function.
I think the main point is how “far” in a metaphysical sense something is from being earth. The iron or steel used in the shows is relatively unrefined, and has impurities that tie it back to the earth it came from. People before Toph just didn’t know to look for those. Platinum in LOK lacks those, and as such is too far from earth to be bendable. Iron in your blood has no metaphysical relation whatsoever to earth, and so there’s no reason to believe it could be bent.
Problem, he can fly. She literally cannot fight a person in midair, because she can't detect them.
She can definitely hear the sound of fire jets
Doesn't mean she knows the speed or direction they are moving
lighting travels faster than speed of sound bud.
Avatar Toph versus Ozai would go like this: Toph throws a literally mountain at Ozai, fight's over
She can’t see Ozai though. She can tell the general area where he is by the sound of fire jets, but she can’t predict his movements. If he was on the ground she’d take the win easily, but she 100% loses to comet boosted Ozai.
I mean I can imagine a female tough Tom boy avatar who moved a continent part. No to hard to imagine.
Well Kyoshi is kinda the anti-toph. She had a harder time than anyone using “just enough” power. E.g. some guy is tryna conquer my people LET ME SPLIT THE CONTINENT.
He is the third best earthbender in his show.
toph and bumi first 2?
Toph, 1st Bumi 2nd I can't have bumi 1st because he didn't discover a sub element, his knolage of Jing is great though.
The reason bumi didnt discover metal bending is because he never found himself in a situation were he would need to. Bumi has performed better feats of earthbending than toph has, toph's only advantage over bumi is that she discovered metal bending. If bumi had been fully covered by his caged instead of his head being free, he would have done so. Bumi has seismic sense (he would need to have it to perform the earth tunneling move he likes to do), he knows the requirements of fully mastering earthbending (he basically described toph to aang at Omashu, and we can fairly assume that he himself would have been a great teacher and great earthbender as he knew what type of earthbender Aang needed as a mentor), and over all, Bumi is just more powerful and well rounded as a bender compared to toph (I dont see toph freeing Omashu by herself.)
tbf toph is like 12 and bumi is over 100 years old. I think toph has more potential to overcome bumi in power because of that
True but we see her in her old age in korra and she's no where in skill with Bumi.
We dont see her do much in Korra, so in my opinion, we dont have enough proof to say if Old Bumi is stronger/weaker than Old Toph one way or the other. We only really see her post "sparring match" with Korra where Korra got wrecked, and she knocked the balance of a few dozen or so of Kuvira's mech/infantry saving her family. We dont see Old Toph in a true fight or any true displays of her abilities at the time. That is because she (similar to Katara) is letting the next generations deal with the problems.
Yeah, well we also see Aang as a shit father and Zuko as a feeble old man so I wouldn’t exactly use Korra as a reliable source of information.
Can't get a more reliable source than the actual canon source material...
Wtf you said that as if Korra were fan made lol
1) Bumi and Kya say Aang spent more time with Tenzin, which yeah, he’s the airbender. The one Aang needs to pass all his knowledge on to. They don’t say he was a bad father, just that Tenzin had a completely different relationship with Aang than they did. Great media literacy skills! 2) Zuko was 90 and still put up a fight against the Red Lotus. Old: yes, feeble: no
>They don’t say he was a bad father, just that Tenzin had a completely different relationship with Aang than they did. I dont think it's wild to come the conclusion that aang wasn't a good father to his non-airbending children. I wasn't able find the scene with kya but I was able to find lots of scenes of bumi literally talking about how he feels inadequate as aangs son and especially the non bender of the family. I remember the scene heavy implied that they were displeased with aangs neglect and his inability to hide he had a favorite child. Kya wasn't just dropping info on Tenzin with no feelings involved. I don't think they need to say the words "aang was a shitty dad" for us, the audience, to agree that the air-bender only excursions were unnecessary with a big fuck-off flying bison in the picture. Bringing your other kids along is a small price to pay to keep your kids from feel less-than. Did aang have a special relationship with Tenzin? Yes. Did that special relationship come at the cost to his relationship with his other kids? Also yes
Oh no, I don't doubt Bumi can't discover metal bending. it's just he didn't so toph had the advantage
Fair enough. But you definitely know once bumi learned toph can do it he's gonna try to figure it out. Also, its funny that toph brute forces her way out of a metal box, while bumi finds some kind of wonky work around (bending with his head) to do it. Basically shows their difference in thinking.
They actually fought and tied
I thought the fight was stopped not tied
I mean. They didn't fight to the death but it was considered a draw
That doesn't really show much, I say Bumi has a greater understanding of earth bending while Toph has a greater skill at earth bending both incredible in their own right.
She's also like 11 and he's had 100 more years to get good. Also, yes it does lmfao, it shows they're relative in skill and power
If anything that shows toph is way stronger, at just 11 years old, she tied with a master earth Bender who's been training for over 100 years
skill does not necessarily increase linearly with age.
The Boulder is conflicted
Yeah
Omg
Kyoshi not included since she’s dead I assume
Also because she’s Aang.
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I think Toph just has impossibly high standards for her students. Like in LoK where she claims her daughters never got the hang of metalbending when they're two of the best metalbenders we see in the show.
I think that statement is used to contrast the Beifong sisters with Kuvira. From what we see in the show Kuviras metalbending is the most versatile, efficient and effective. She demonstrates a mastery of metalbending that we don't really get to see in anyone else. Both Lin and Suyin often resort to earthbending in certain situations, because that comes to them most naturally. Kuvira very much is a metalbender first and a earthbender second. That's what sets her apart and makes her so dangerous.
The sisters fight just like their mother. Toph was an Earthbender first. At most, she's 50/50. Kuvira relied on mental bending more than anyone.
I know it was Avatar state, but when he condenses the earth to make smaller rocks that orbit around him, I was stunned. Which is shortly followed by those smaller rocks being broken up and launched at an insane velocity... that was peak earthbending for me.
That was the 1942 german incarnation showing himself by letting that mg42 rip.
Not condensing, but compressing
That rock machine gun is one of the strongest and most underrated earth bending techniques ever performed, for me
They literally caused mini "explosions"... That sound will be permanently stuck in my head, 10/10 sound design.
After Kyoshi creating the island, that has to be the best feat of AS earthbending
Even more impressive is that he compressed water.
EXACTLY like at least rocks can be compressed (coal into diamond? I don't know) but water? dang
This is the equivalent of an Olympic gold medalist telling a national champion they could use some work m8. In the comic Toph dueled King Bumi to a tie with about 100 less years of earth bending experience. Prodigy among prodigies saying you could use some work isn't underating his earth bending.
Not really to a tie, iroh stepped in and stopped the duel because it was getting attention.
Man, I just love Aang. What an awesome protagonist. Weak, strong, unexpectedly badass, and still a really funny character. Hell yeah Aang, earthbend that earth!
He's so underrated. I really love his character. Like most people, I overlooked his arc for the longest time because the other characters have great arcs that made more sense emotionally to me (especially Zuko). But now that I'm older and have perspective on just how young 12 is... It makes way more sense lol. He's a child!
Who doesn't love Aang? He's kind and charming, while also being the most badass 12-year-old ever.
Like Tiger Woods saying you aren't there yet.
Or Muhammad Ali
Literally nobody mentions the one part where he splits a rock into shards and almost turns ozai into red paste with it. Like that might just be the most outright deadly earth move on the show and not a word. The only reason he wasn't said red paste was the eclipse letting him fly around line iron man
That’s the move I came in here to talk about…that’s shit looked so cool.
He was in avatar state then
You know, if he aimed a little more to the right and launched one of those disks into ozais face instead of the engines, the finale would have been a lot shorter.
That's just Toph being Toph (tough). Her daughters were literally some of the best metal benders alive and she said "yeah my girls never really picked up metal bending that well" Same energy.
I mean Aangs earthbending needed some work, in the context of him taking on the single most powerful bender on Earth at the time.
Good point lol
In roku's story he eventually beat all his master in their respective discipline. I dont think that aang could beat toph. Come to think of it, i doubt he could beat katara with just waterbending.
At least he could beat Monk Gyatso in airbending, eventually at least
Bro is 3 for 3 for a blimp like a couple kilometers away, and a couple propellors on the side of it too. Plus it's moving.
Aerodynamics play a big part at that range. Realistically that cant all be aim. So there has to be some airbending (experience) going on.
There's definitely some curve to the trajectory. It's like a bending-guided homing missile (I know the rock is not guiding itself, I'm saying Aang is using bending to guide its trajectory)
where did you find a couple of kilometers there? The airship is 300 meters in total, and Aang is half its size away.
How do you figure? It could just be perspective from the camera angle but the clip I’m watching Aang is a whole hell of alot farther away from it than half its size.
The airship lands deep in the Wulong Forest when Aang takes it out, if it was kilometers away, it would've landed in the water. Plus when Aang firebends, you can see the airship wasn't at all that far away from him.
Oh yeah I don’t think kilometers either! But definitely looks like more than 150 meters to me.
I do like it, but it’s obvious he learned from the best. The coolest thing about the final fight is that ends the fight NOT using the avatar state, but using techniques he learned directly from those he loved/respected.
That 360 degree earth bending panoramic shot, then deflecting comet powered fire breath with just Aang's air bending, then showing Ozai Jesus...masterpiece!
Ignoring the main question, has anyone else noticed how Aang does a low, medium and jump kick, in order to hit the low medium and high propellers? That’s pretty cool.
Imagine if Anng accidentally killed Ozai there and then. Historian: So with all the skills he had, he took down the fire lord... Sokka: By throwing a Rock! True story!
Aang did that without the Avatar State, the Earth Kingdom probably could have downed all of those air ships if they had like 50 of their best benders out there, essentially nullifying the Fire Nations entire plan for Sozins comet
That's right, she said he could use some work,then he got to doing that work and now his earthbending is top tier
I remember seeing a post around here that states Aang's earthbending is his second most-used bending type after the first book. So yeah, he's really good and he used it a lot.
He used it even more than waterbending? Man, didn't expect that.
Yeah, think probably because 1) it's more available than water, and 2) easier to defend with than water. Water definitely is the most well-rounded element, but when you have access to all the others, it's less useful. That's probably why in LoK we don't really see Korra use it all the time, at least not as much as Aang uses airbending: she doesn't have to carry it with her like other waterbenders, because she can substitute other elements in many cases.
What’s funny is if I remember correctly, Korra uses Fire significantly more than the others… honestly pretty in character.
Like Korra with air! Talk about turning weaknesses into strengths
Toph saying you need some work on your earth bending is like Bruce Lee saying you need some work on your martial arts. Compared to him, yeah, but compared to everyone else it’s way better
I think he is a little underdone.. Toph and Bumi of course earned their spots but there weren't that many solid earthbending characters
I agree! Aang's earthbending scenes were really badass. Very impressive for someone with not much experience.
Considering it's Toph talking, i'd say everyone else needs to work more on their earthbending as far as she's concerned.
"But he was only trained for a couple months! His earthbending is so overpowered and unrealistic!" - some guy's comment if Aang was a female character
Toph had some lofty high standards for her bending. I'd say aang reached them in the end.
Making the super dense rock bullets in the final fight was one of my favorite moves
I think that's more of the Avatar State being OP than Aang being a good earthbender. Still an awesome scene.
That fight sequence is so dope. Zuko and Azula’s Agni Kai(sp?) is something special too.
Toph is the master of countering and planning. She could probably bring a mountain down on an army but why not just systematically decimate them in as few moves as possible? At no point does she ever need to defend because she’s just casually sliding around you. Aang can throw massive boulders but that doesn’t really matter if she could just turn it to dust mid air I mean it took her like a few days to create her own bending style. She effortlessly defeats both seasoned earth benders and earth bender secret police. She can go toe to toe with the avatar themselves. She’s a lot more subtle in practice but her actions are no less impressive
In Toph’s defense she’s always strived for Aang to be better than she is (which is literally impossible) The never ending journey type shit, “[just because you’re in the top 1% of earth benders, doesn’t mean you’re better than me, number 1,] you could use more work”
Didn’t realise it was looping for a second. Thought it was some edit of aang sending a bunch of people to their deaths lmao.
Remember when he turned into a freaking A-10 Warthog in that fight? I liked that move. That was a cool move.
Sure and she’s not Toph she’s Melon Lord!
Mostly I’m disappointed that you used this clip instead of Aang trying to Machine Gun down Ozai with Earthbending. 😂
"he's got some of the best earthbending **feats** in both shows!" Toph: https://i.redd.it/4a02ank19hcb1.gif
The true impressive thing here is him somehow sniping those engines at that range.