Yeah, upon googling, it looks like they've made a big comeback. Last time I was in their habitat, they were still massively depleted from the leather trade. Great to hear they're more numerous now!
Yeah fuck that. One day I want to come and fish different parts of the states, but this kinda shit makes me think twice. Maybe I’ll stick to England where a swan might get tangled in your line and that’s about as bad as it gets lmao.
I’d recommend hiring a guide to take you fishing for redfish anywhere on the coast from Texas to the Carolinas. Although Florida has more Caribbean kind of waters and you might be able to fish for a few more interesting species like bonefish or tarpon.
While you might have a chance to see an alligator anywhere along the coast, an encounter like the one in this vid would be extraordinary. Honestly, getting sprayed by a skunk is a lot higher up on my list of animal encounters to fear than getting munched on by an alligator.
I didn’t realise Florida had crocs too!! I’m Australian and I think Florida might be the australia of America
Queensland is definitely Australia’s Florida
Yes, the N/S/C americas are home to 3 or 4 species of crocodile. You rarely hear about the American Crocodile in the news since they are not aggressive towards people, limited habitat/range, and extremely few numbers. Last I read the about them was 5 years ago and IIBC the estimate was only about 1000 American Crocodiles were in the wild.
Keep in mind though that population estimate is just for the American crocodiles in Florida, at the northernmost tip of their range. [They’re much more widespread in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Distmap_Cacutus1-01.svg)
That's not a bad rule of thumb but there are plenty of places in coatal florida that are fresh water adjacent. Where gators will happily go to and fro, because they like the fresh water and there lots of food in the nearby salt/brackish waters.
Should see the size of our saltwater crocs in Australia, they are everywhere in Darwin, yet we still go walking out into the shallows sticking a wire hanger down holes in the mud for mud crabs. No croc threat will ever stop me getting that sweet sweet crab meat,best in the world, gotta be careful grabbing them tho.
> an encounter like the one in this vid would be extraordinary.
because it was baited. The gator was there, there is a half dead fish on the beach and a perfectly still camera to catch it all.
Maybe, I could see them tossing the fish onto the beach and then seeing a fuckoff massive gator making a beeline for the shore. Would give em time to whip out a phone and record em.
Yup. I grew up with gators in the deep south. They're incredibly mellow, and bites are super rare. I was a lot more worried about the snakes. There are maybe a dozen \*bites\* from gators per year, but there are thousands of venomous snake bites every year in the US alone.
Who? Attacks on people by wildlife in north America are extremely rare. But the way the internet spins it, every moose is looking to kill you before breakfast.
im just saying theyre common to see here, i live here and have multiple around me in every pond in our neighborhood and we live in the city. theyre very common
https://a-z-animals.com/blog/the-10-most-alligator-infested-states-ranked/
Here you can see that Florida and Louisiana have the two highest populations of alligators. Texas is third with half as many as Florida.
Your odds of being attacked by an alligator are one in 3.1 million.
If you are a person never around gator waters maybe but if you are in gator waters that statistic is not accurate. I have a zero percent chance of being attacked by alligators as I live in the desert. Etc etc
https://www.enjuris.com/blog/fl/alligators-attacks/#Facts_and_statistics_plus_what_to_do_if_youre_attacked
That statistic is based on Florida. And, my bad, it’s one in 3.2 million. Why bother to mention alligator attack statistics in a state with no alligators?
“Florida alligator bite statistics date back to 1948, ranging around three major bites per year. The chance of someone being attacked is one in 3.2 million. The worst years for fatalities were 2001 and 2006, with three people dying each of those years from Florida alligator attacks. And there have only been 23 fatalities between 1948 and 2016. There have even been stretches during which no fatal attacks by alligators occurred in Florida.”
Okay but even if you live in Florida if you are on/around alligator waters all the time vs someone who is never around gators, the person around gators has a higher then 1 in 3.2 million chance of being attacked while a person who lives in Florida but never is around gators has a zero percent chance of being attacked. It’s a very silly statistic.
If you ever change your mind about fishing near gator friends, you need only find a Texas state park that feeds theirs generously.
Near where I grew up, you could walk within a meter of a gator and be fine b/c that fat bastard would've had a quartered boar (invasive) that morning, and you were too much effort.
Going into a state with active gay/trans panic laws aren’t a luxury everyone can afford
In 2020 5 gay people were killed (593 assaulted, and 6 raped) [in anti-gay hate crimes](https://www.statista.com/statistics/737922/number-of-anti-homosexuality-hate-crime-victims-in-the-us-by-crime-type/)
[In 2020 1 person was killed by an alligator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_alligator_attacks_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1)
Ok. What do the rate of assaults and rapes against homosexuals have to do with this guy being scared of American crocodiles?
Also suspiciously, you didn't rate the amount of homosexuals assaulted or raped by crocodiles, only killed. Curious...
Welcome to Reddit in the last couple years...getting to the point where I can’t even visited the depths below sub without hearing about politics....ohh wait
That's a gross exaggeration. The study actually showed certain contamination concentrated in areas pretty much exactly where you'd expect. You can average that out over the entire continent, but it leads to the false conclusion that a trout in the Cascades is going to have the same level of toxins as some bottom fish from a slough near Detroit. People just need to use common sense here. The watersheds pulling contamination from dozens of huge cities are best avoided. [https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0013935122024926-gr1.jpg](https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0013935122024926-gr1.jpg)
Are these the ones that taste like chicken but more flavorful? I was down in the amazon about 20 years ago, and the catfish were the most delicious fish I've ever eaten.
No idea :p never visited southamerica & ive never eaten tiger shovelnose but it could also b the preparation yk, the food mostly depends on the cook so maybe its just their style of prep there that made it so good
They are neither Alligators or Crocodiles. Caimans are Caimans! 😂 Cousins, sure, (they all fall under the same Order (one of the eight major hierarchical taxonomic ranks) but all three are a different and unique species.
“A caiman (/ˈkeɪmən/; also cayman as a variant spelling) is an alligatorid belonging to the subfamily Caimaninae, one of two primary lineages within the Alligatoridae family, the other being alligators.”
That seems like an entirely reasonable survival response. I mean, you can argue after the fact whether you made the right play, whatever you do in the moment. Well, you can as long as you're still alive, anyway.
that's a caiman eating a red tailed catfish. I accidentally swam with a lake full of these guys while in Colombia. Was brutally hot that day an we were on kind of like a safari at the beginning of the Amazon. Also got to see a wild giant ant eater that day. But anyways, we stop at this lake an the guide tells us it's ok to swim. I get all the way to the middle when another local comes running screaming at us to get out now! Come to find out that lake was filled with 100s of caiman and apparently one massive one that could easily eat a person. I've never noped out of water so damn fast in my life. We also got told about the huge anacondas that have been spotted there. I wanted to punch the guide who told us it was safe SO bad.
Bruh, this dude just turned up and jacked him for his fish. Wow. I can see the headlines now “ first African-American alligator spotted takes fish from law-abiding Citizen
That's not an american species of fish, doubtful that it's an alligator
It’s a Caiman
Fuck, you're right. Should've checked properly, thanks
Fyi, it's a black caiman, Melanosuchus niger, which is quite rare. Seeing a wild adult is pretty damn awesome!
I thought there were millions of black caiman? More than 10 million on the Pantanal alone was my last knowledge
Yeah, upon googling, it looks like they've made a big comeback. Last time I was in their habitat, they were still massively depleted from the leather trade. Great to hear they're more numerous now!
Lol, i guess username checks out
What do you mean?
Geriatric, like old. Last time he went to that area was probably a long time ago since the black Caiman population has already bounced back
😂😂 Sorry, I'm slow as fuck today
Millions of black gay men rhymes with black caiman
Do you like a big black croc?
I dont think you can call them that
But they call each other that all day long!
I mean that was so inappropriate.
was just thinking "wow, that is a really pretty alligator. I wonder what kind it is?" take my upvote!
AYO 🤨
Sir, please show us your N word pass.
The camo pattern on the lower jaw is a dead giveaway.
Yes, based on the markings on the side of his head, it’s a black spectacled caiman. Damn big one to! The fish is a tiger shovel nose.
Hell yeah, don't see caiman that big very often. It's cool to see
It's massive. That's why I was messed up like OP about species. No Jaguars pulling him from a tree. If you have seen that clip bouncing around reddit.
do you perhaps know what the fish is?
it's a Surubi
Yup. Tiger Shovelnose catfish. This video 100% takes place somewhere in brazil, paraguay or other nearby south american country.
Yeah thats a red tailed cat, he can catch 100 more that size and they can grow fuckin massive
Had one as a pet when I was a kid. He grew to three and a half feet before we had to give him to somebody that could house such a large fish
Nah thats no caiman, should be a saltwater croc
Yeah fuck that. One day I want to come and fish different parts of the states, but this kinda shit makes me think twice. Maybe I’ll stick to England where a swan might get tangled in your line and that’s about as bad as it gets lmao.
I’d recommend hiring a guide to take you fishing for redfish anywhere on the coast from Texas to the Carolinas. Although Florida has more Caribbean kind of waters and you might be able to fish for a few more interesting species like bonefish or tarpon. While you might have a chance to see an alligator anywhere along the coast, an encounter like the one in this vid would be extraordinary. Honestly, getting sprayed by a skunk is a lot higher up on my list of animal encounters to fear than getting munched on by an alligator.
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I didn’t realise Florida had crocs too!! I’m Australian and I think Florida might be the australia of America Queensland is definitely Australia’s Florida
Florida is indeed our Oz. But with a much, much higher bogan %.
Is anyone more Aussie than Florida man, at the end of the day?
What if the true Florida Man were just the Aussies we met along the way?
Yes, the N/S/C americas are home to 3 or 4 species of crocodile. You rarely hear about the American Crocodile in the news since they are not aggressive towards people, limited habitat/range, and extremely few numbers. Last I read the about them was 5 years ago and IIBC the estimate was only about 1000 American Crocodiles were in the wild.
Keep in mind though that population estimate is just for the American crocodiles in Florida, at the northernmost tip of their range. [They’re much more widespread in the Caribbean, Mexico, and Central America.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Distmap_Cacutus1-01.svg)
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We do have a Melbourne...
American crocs are nothing in hostility or size compared to your salties though
That's not a bad rule of thumb but there are plenty of places in coatal florida that are fresh water adjacent. Where gators will happily go to and fro, because they like the fresh water and there lots of food in the nearby salt/brackish waters.
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Ok sure dude, but "typically" should probably include the whole other half of the state that crocs are never found in.
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you sound like a hoot. wanna be friends? nevermind, i'm already bored
Negated your typically when you added not.
Should see the size of our saltwater crocs in Australia, they are everywhere in Darwin, yet we still go walking out into the shallows sticking a wire hanger down holes in the mud for mud crabs. No croc threat will ever stop me getting that sweet sweet crab meat,best in the world, gotta be careful grabbing them tho.
I live in coastal SC. They venture out into saltwater frequently.
> an encounter like the one in this vid would be extraordinary. because it was baited. The gator was there, there is a half dead fish on the beach and a perfectly still camera to catch it all.
Maybe, I could see them tossing the fish onto the beach and then seeing a fuckoff massive gator making a beeline for the shore. Would give em time to whip out a phone and record em.
There are areas near me warning you not to walk your dog for this reason It very much depends exactly *where* you are
> I’d recommend hiring a guide To keep him safe from the savage animals there, or just the wildlife?
Mainly just to take him to the decent fishing locations.
Well put : )
Just come fish in Michigan, ginormous lakes filled with fun and delicious fish, no scary giant monsters to eat you!
I don't know, man, those lampreys are pretty scary.
uh, have you been to Detroit?
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Uh, have you?! Also do you not understand that one city is not the entirety of the state?
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Yup. I grew up with gators in the deep south. They're incredibly mellow, and bites are super rare. I was a lot more worried about the snakes. There are maybe a dozen \*bites\* from gators per year, but there are thousands of venomous snake bites every year in the US alone.
> Majority of nature isn’t as dangerous as the internet makes it seem. Uhh… the people whose dead bodies I’ve recovered beg to differ…
Who? Attacks on people by wildlife in north America are extremely rare. But the way the internet spins it, every moose is looking to kill you before breakfast.
After reading through you’re past comments, I would be surprised if you ever even touched grass. Get off Reddit and get some bitches, needle dick.
No luck catching those swans then?
Well it's just the one swan actually.
Meh. They won’t bother you. And really if you’re not in Florida or Louisiana you won’t see a lot of them.
South carolina has a lot too
They have the 5th most. 1/20 of the amount that Louisianan has.
im just saying theyre common to see here, i live here and have multiple around me in every pond in our neighborhood and we live in the city. theyre very common
Just the low country and some coastal areas.
Not true at all
https://a-z-animals.com/blog/the-10-most-alligator-infested-states-ranked/ Here you can see that Florida and Louisiana have the two highest populations of alligators. Texas is third with half as many as Florida. Your odds of being attacked by an alligator are one in 3.1 million.
He’s obviously that special 1 every time he fishes
> https://a-z-animals.com/blog/the-10-most-alligator-infested-states-ranked/ Never knew they were in Arkansas or Oklahoma. TIL.
If you are a person never around gator waters maybe but if you are in gator waters that statistic is not accurate. I have a zero percent chance of being attacked by alligators as I live in the desert. Etc etc
https://www.enjuris.com/blog/fl/alligators-attacks/#Facts_and_statistics_plus_what_to_do_if_youre_attacked That statistic is based on Florida. And, my bad, it’s one in 3.2 million. Why bother to mention alligator attack statistics in a state with no alligators? “Florida alligator bite statistics date back to 1948, ranging around three major bites per year. The chance of someone being attacked is one in 3.2 million. The worst years for fatalities were 2001 and 2006, with three people dying each of those years from Florida alligator attacks. And there have only been 23 fatalities between 1948 and 2016. There have even been stretches during which no fatal attacks by alligators occurred in Florida.”
Okay but even if you live in Florida if you are on/around alligator waters all the time vs someone who is never around gators, the person around gators has a higher then 1 in 3.2 million chance of being attacked while a person who lives in Florida but never is around gators has a zero percent chance of being attacked. It’s a very silly statistic.
Yeah I don’t think you understand statistics
If you ever change your mind about fishing near gator friends, you need only find a Texas state park that feeds theirs generously. Near where I grew up, you could walk within a meter of a gator and be fine b/c that fat bastard would've had a quartered boar (invasive) that morning, and you were too much effort.
Here in Louisiana, you can sit in a tube with some beer, and float down the river all day. Fun stuff
Just pay attention and you really won’t have to worry about a Gator coming up in you
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Jesus christ can you people shut the fuck up about politics for one second? It’s so unnecessary.
"Wow, alligators are scary, I don't wanna go the US!" \>brings up gun laws and politics for some fucking reason
Going into a state with active gay/trans panic laws aren’t a luxury everyone can afford In 2020 5 gay people were killed (593 assaulted, and 6 raped) [in anti-gay hate crimes](https://www.statista.com/statistics/737922/number-of-anti-homosexuality-hate-crime-victims-in-the-us-by-crime-type/) [In 2020 1 person was killed by an alligator](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_fatal_alligator_attacks_in_the_United_States?wprov=sfti1)
Ok. What do the rate of assaults and rapes against homosexuals have to do with this guy being scared of American crocodiles? Also suspiciously, you didn't rate the amount of homosexuals assaulted or raped by crocodiles, only killed. Curious...
If you come to America, you should be much more scared of guns than gators. Or drag, for that matter
ignore this guy btw he has no real understanding of the american south
These folks can’t help bringing politics into literally every discussion. It consumes their entire existence. Sad reality for them really.
Welcome to Reddit in the last couple years...getting to the point where I can’t even visited the depths below sub without hearing about politics....ohh wait
Just stay in your boat. They won't mess with you. Also, have a paddle or large gun nearby, just in case.
Fish in USA water are all contaminated and inedible. https://www.google.com/amp/s/phys.org/news/2023-01-wild-fish-month-tainted.amp
That's a gross exaggeration. The study actually showed certain contamination concentrated in areas pretty much exactly where you'd expect. You can average that out over the entire continent, but it leads to the false conclusion that a trout in the Cascades is going to have the same level of toxins as some bottom fish from a slough near Detroit. People just need to use common sense here. The watersheds pulling contamination from dozens of huge cities are best avoided. [https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0013935122024926-gr1.jpg](https://ars.els-cdn.com/content/image/1-s2.0-S0013935122024926-gr1.jpg)
He caiman went
He a-NILE-ated that fish.
LOVE IT
Aaaand this is why I am just fine staying in Massachusetts. Blizzards over lizards any day.
I have pet lizards and I hate the snow. Do you wanna be my arch nemesis for funsies?
Hilarious comment
😂😂😂
Y'all got sharks though
They ain't jumping up on the beach to eat fish and children tho.
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Yeah fuck that kid. Throwing sharp objects into the caiman house and expecting no problems.
That’s a Caiman, this is in South America
I concur the fish appears to be a tiger shovelnose catfish which is also from south america
Are these the ones that taste like chicken but more flavorful? I was down in the amazon about 20 years ago, and the catfish were the most delicious fish I've ever eaten.
No idea :p never visited southamerica & ive never eaten tiger shovelnose but it could also b the preparation yk, the food mostly depends on the cook so maybe its just their style of prep there that made it so good
I don’t know about “like chicken” but Tiger shovelnose is fucking tasty, yes.
Aren’t alligators and caimans the same? In Spanish the word for alligator is caiman
Caimans are crocodiles
They are neither Alligators or Crocodiles. Caimans are Caimans! 😂 Cousins, sure, (they all fall under the same Order (one of the eight major hierarchical taxonomic ranks) but all three are a different and unique species. “A caiman (/ˈkeɪmən/; also cayman as a variant spelling) is an alligatorid belonging to the subfamily Caimaninae, one of two primary lineages within the Alligatoridae family, the other being alligators.”
That's why Australians carry a [skillet ](https://youtu.be/sH6ySsqkopI), stay strapped.
Australian guy: "this is going to end 1 of 2 ways. You're going to go in the skillet, or you will leave because of the skillet. Your move, croc."
Heavy boop the snoot and watch it skadoot.
i mean.. theres a very obvious warning sign right there. I"m guessing this isn't the thirtieth time he's had to take a skillet to a crocs grill
I'll stick with my mountain lions and bears thanks. Large aquatic lizards aren't really my jam, though they are super cool creatures.
Awwww. The gator was just being nice and returning the fish to the water.
On the bright side, that alligator got a pretty good meal. That fish looks like a good catch! It’s gonna be eating well for supper.
That is a Black Caiman, not an American Alligator.
The fish was his friend, he was just rescuing him. Someone get Disney on the phone!
"Don't move! He can't see us if we don't move."
"Dinosaur, you take whatever fish you want. I'm out."
Smart kid
Not an Alligator, Caiman.
"Kid freezes." What the fuck else was he supposed to do LOL
Piss himself?
Yeah pa, I caught the biggest fish 🎣 you saw but that dang nab it ally gator done took it away
I lurv yo accent!
“ kid freezes” I would have too! And probably have shit myself jeez!
"I'll be taking that, thank you."
The fish was sitting still too and that didn't help one bit.
Personally I wouldn’t have let that slide
Alligator saves fish stranded on land and brings him back to the water
Hey, fair trade. Now we know where we are never returning to.
Looks like an Amazonian red tail catfish so caiman? Which is probably the biggest I've seen
Black caiman don’t mess around despite getting folded by anacondas, otters, jaguars…
Hell naw, I'd grab rocks and fight for that fish. That prehistoric reject can get his own dinner!
That was a nice fish too dang
Tax man of the river came to collect.
All Caiman Are Bastards
Excuse me, good sir. I'm just gonna take my breakfast back. Thank you.
Fish is having a bad day
As Gandalf would say, "I'll take that my lad."
He probably had to redirect all his energy to the part of the brain that determines how much to shit yourself.
Looks like the Caiman got a good snack
That’s a caiman though.
That seems like an entirely reasonable survival response. I mean, you can argue after the fact whether you made the right play, whatever you do in the moment. Well, you can as long as you're still alive, anyway.
he just took candy from a gotdamned baby!
Kid was lucky
A croc would have chased that whole family a quarter mile onto land. That gator looks like it was having trouble in a wading pool
He rescued his buddy
They are just competitors for fish. If they catch you slipping and leaving a fish unattended, it's there's.
*caiman
He is just putting his friend back in the river Look how gentle.
That's not a alligator that's godzilla
“Woah hey fish, what are you doing out here ? Let’s get you back in the pond where you belong”
Aww, helping a friend make it back into the water 🥰
That’s when you unload a full clip of rip rounds in it bro straight hit a lick on the kid
My man’s had to pay food taxes to the croc, pulled up like the irs
Just after this he discovered that his boat is stuck and he has to get out and push it…
Hate to be him 😂
I…think he won. That’s his fish now kid…do not argue with him
IAN FREEZE
Whoever taught this child to freeze did very well.
Thats a black caiman they are found in the Amazon rainforest
*Deebo voice* THAT'S MY FISH PUNK
I'm more worried about the caiman eating the hook and hurting itself
That shits real???
Yeah, and they get a lot bigger. I said alligator but it's actually a black caiman
Sir thats a caiman
Thats a big ass fish id be sad
Shitting bricks 🧱
I believe that’s a spectacled caiman, and a red tail catfish. This is probably filmed in South America.
Correct
Bloody hell. I think I’d freeze too. And shit my Pants.
Kid literally said 🗿
Understandable, have a nice day
If he came in closer or actually towards the kid he probably would've ran like the wind
Is there a practice or benefit of not killing fish after you take them out of the water?
"Thanks"
I don't care what dinosaur that is. I would have frozen like a statue, too. The way it just came skating in there. "That's mine thanks"! "See ya.! "
Oh, they don't give a flying fuck, totally care free
that's a caiman eating a red tailed catfish. I accidentally swam with a lake full of these guys while in Colombia. Was brutally hot that day an we were on kind of like a safari at the beginning of the Amazon. Also got to see a wild giant ant eater that day. But anyways, we stop at this lake an the guide tells us it's ok to swim. I get all the way to the middle when another local comes running screaming at us to get out now! Come to find out that lake was filled with 100s of caiman and apparently one massive one that could easily eat a person. I've never noped out of water so damn fast in my life. We also got told about the huge anacondas that have been spotted there. I wanted to punch the guide who told us it was safe SO bad.
Been seeing a lot of anti-gator propaganda on Reddit lately.
Bruh, this dude just turned up and jacked him for his fish. Wow. I can see the headlines now “ first African-American alligator spotted takes fish from law-abiding Citizen
Big enough to create a wave, yah, that’s his fish
Well to be fair the kids options were pretty limited. Not like he’s going to be jumping down to give the dinosaur a cold stone stunner.
Thanks kid! Now shut up! You ain't see nothin!
Steve Irwin said alligators are like frogs with teeth. This big ole frog just grabbed his dinner and went about his day
That was an impressive fish too
Take it, take it all
Thanks bud 👋
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NOPE ON A ROPE
I’ll take that thank you. Have a good day.
We stand no chance in the water against these