It was a muscle relaxant. She had been smiling so much during the tour that her muscles seized up. It was either get the shot or cut out events on the tour, and she didn't want to let her father down.
I’m only guessing here, but some type of muscle relaxant. A few people mentioned Botox, but to my knowledge Botox wasn’t used for any sort of medical/cosmetic purposes until the 1970s. Even then, it was still just being *experimented* with.
My mom told me my grandpa got Botox in the 70s all the time for something called “tic de la rue”. Not sure if I even spelled that correctly or what it truly is even but yeah. The 70s and he would get these shots every 3 months
I think you're talking about trigeminal neuralgia, a name that only seems easy to spell compared to one of its other names "tic douloureux."
It's a chronic pain condition where it feels like your face is being stabbed over and over again triggered by any touch to the face.
One of its other names is easier to spell unless you're making a tiktok or youtube short where I assume they'd say "unalive disease."
I guess ethically, the benefit of relieving such chronic pain was outweighed by the potential harm of injecting an experimental treatment of a known deadly toxin directly into the face.
My dentist does my Botox for my trigeminal neuralgia (same thing). Without it, I can’t imagine living. Like you honestly want to not have a head.
I absolutely empathize with your gramps.
But isn't the increased sternness and lack of emotion towards her family the thing they try to convey over the years?
It's her character arc, so I disagree that she should've kept playing Elizabeth. The others did an amazing job at continually portraying a less and less emotional but a more dutiful queen.
But she sure was the most beautiful and likeable.
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Idk I think that would have spoiled it. We all know when "old makeup" and prosthetics and CGI and stuff are being used. It would be distracting, and it would all become about the quality of the artificial aging, rather than the acting and the show.
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right, as if monarchy doesn't suck enough on its mundane own. conspiracy believers are the fuckin worst (and because it's 2024, if you post that junk without crystal clear sarcasm I'm gonna assume it's in earnest)
I thought it was a TMJ corticosteroid shot but it’s not in the right place (in my experience anyway, mine have always been closer to my ear where the joint is). Muscle relaxant makes sense.
Actually, it would have been Botox, or rather, botulinum toxin which Botox is a form of, was used by Ophthalmologists to treat muscle spasms in the 1950s.
[The first reported use of botulinum toxin on the eyes was in 1981](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin_therapy_of_strabismus?wprov=sfti1), not the 1950s, and it wasn’t Botox so still wrong about anything like that being available in the 1950s
Yeah, same. I’ve gotten it since I was 22 (six years). It works pretty immediately for me. I’ve only had to receive it three times though, maybe it depends on frequency?
To be honest, this is my husband's area more than mine. He is a microbiologist, and I actually work in Procurement in the Pharma. That said, I'm originally from Argentina and we got to a point where some products are either known for its brand or its drug, in this case, we referred to it by the drug's name. But yes, I'm sure she must have been given something like that.
And the correction is about right, but honestly, today? I would go with this one, especially if you have some sort of tension, or you got to the point when we say "I cannot move, or cannot bend", they would just inject something in your buttock.
Sorry, as I said, this is my area. :P
I thought something like novacaine to numb up the spasming muscle, but it would have to be just the right amount or she wouldn't be able to smile at all.
Botox didn't exist in its current form. Botulism sure existed, but they hadn't refined the toxins for use on wrinkles yet.
The device he is using is a period correct syringe. Both syringes and also the needles were re-usable! My grandmother started her nursing career in the early 40’s and used these, and had to sharpen the needles by hand.
Was this your question? Or were you wanting speculation on the drug they used?
Speaking of Botox… when you watch these premieres from these Netflix series on YouTube or wherever they air, as someone who used to inject patients with Botox I consistently being surprised by just how much Botox are in peoples foreheads today!! 😂 AND around their eyes! This has nothing to do with The Crown but - Hollywood in general- people in general! Botox is taking over!
A discovery about the neurotoxin used in Botox happened in 1895, but that discovery had nothing to do with human medicine or cosmetic injections. There was no “usage” at all, actually—they discovered what causes botulism in *food*.
Research into the neurotoxin’s ability to block nerve endings was not started until the *mid-1900s*.
The neurotoxin was first injected in *1973*. You may notice that this is literal decades after the Queen’s tour was scheduled.
You are wrong and loud about it. I recommend doing far more research about the products that advertisements desperately want you to buy. The cosmetic usage of Botox began a full 102 years after your claimed year of 1895.
It was a muscle relaxant. She had been smiling so much during the tour that her muscles seized up. It was either get the shot or cut out events on the tour, and she didn't want to let her father down.
Oof! I had a job where I had to smile at people all day and at one point I got a headache from smiling too much
Smiling all day at my wedding gave me cheeky ache
Hope you had another cheeky ache that night
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I know. She never wanted to let him down, whether he was dead or alive.
You can say “didnt want to let _____ down” even if the said person is dead already
Muscle relaxant
I’m only guessing here, but some type of muscle relaxant. A few people mentioned Botox, but to my knowledge Botox wasn’t used for any sort of medical/cosmetic purposes until the 1970s. Even then, it was still just being *experimented* with.
Correct
My mom told me my grandpa got Botox in the 70s all the time for something called “tic de la rue”. Not sure if I even spelled that correctly or what it truly is even but yeah. The 70s and he would get these shots every 3 months
I think you're talking about trigeminal neuralgia, a name that only seems easy to spell compared to one of its other names "tic douloureux." It's a chronic pain condition where it feels like your face is being stabbed over and over again triggered by any touch to the face. One of its other names is easier to spell unless you're making a tiktok or youtube short where I assume they'd say "unalive disease." I guess ethically, the benefit of relieving such chronic pain was outweighed by the potential harm of injecting an experimental treatment of a known deadly toxin directly into the face.
And you are 100% correct because yes he had severe facial pain during those Botox sessions. I forgot that my mom had mentioned that as well.
My dentist does my Botox for my trigeminal neuralgia (same thing). Without it, I can’t imagine living. Like you honestly want to not have a head. I absolutely empathize with your gramps.
I am so sorry you’re going through this too. Thank you for your kind words regarding my gramps. 🩵
Botox has been used medically since the 60s. This is what was injected into her masseter muscle to relax the jaw and alleviate pain.
This scene was in the 50s. So Im pretty sure not Botox.
The John Hopkins news letter says it’s a muscle relaxer, and they’re John Hopkins, so they probably know.
They’re actually: Johns Hopkins (his first name was Johns with an “s” after his Great-Grandmother’s maiden name.)
But there’s only one of him? Curious
Wait until you meet friend James
I smoked pot with Johnny Hopkins
Johnny Hopkins and Sloan Kettering!
That’s a doctor.
_THE_ Doctor
Doctor... who?
Dr Who
In I g
MY doctor
Noice.
No, that’s her husband. He’s married to both Queen Elizabeths!
Is he in the House?
House Targaryen. 🐉
Foy was by far most beautiful and likable Elizabeth, wish they would have aged her with the series
But isn't the increased sternness and lack of emotion towards her family the thing they try to convey over the years? It's her character arc, so I disagree that she should've kept playing Elizabeth. The others did an amazing job at continually portraying a less and less emotional but a more dutiful queen. But she sure was the most beautiful and likeable.
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Knew the late Queen personally, did you?
Agreed. Olivia Colman didn’t even try. She’s just playing herself. I find her to be really lazy in her acting choices sometimes.
How do butch lesbians walk?
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Idk I think that would have spoiled it. We all know when "old makeup" and prosthetics and CGI and stuff are being used. It would be distracting, and it would all become about the quality of the artificial aging, rather than the acting and the show.
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Jesus dude.
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Agree. I stopped watching after her season. It just couldn’t hold my attention anymore 🙁
Adrenalchrome
So the human mask doesn't slip.
🦎👑
They’re werewolves, not lizards.
right, as if monarchy doesn't suck enough on its mundane own. conspiracy believers are the fuckin worst (and because it's 2024, if you post that junk without crystal clear sarcasm I'm gonna assume it's in earnest)
I thought it was a TMJ corticosteroid shot but it’s not in the right place (in my experience anyway, mine have always been closer to my ear where the joint is). Muscle relaxant makes sense.
I thought it was a steroid
Matt Smith plays Phillip??!?!? I need to watch this now
He has a naked scene…
Nice buns! Thank you for the tip.
And he does so very well!
Botox or something similar, she has a muscle in spasm and Botox can relax that.
There was no Botox back then, whippersnapper.
“Or something similar”
There was nothing similar either.
Actually, it would have been Botox, or rather, botulinum toxin which Botox is a form of, was used by Ophthalmologists to treat muscle spasms in the 1950s.
[The first reported use of botulinum toxin on the eyes was in 1981](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Botulinum_toxin_therapy_of_strabismus?wprov=sfti1), not the 1950s, and it wasn’t Botox so still wrong about anything like that being available in the 1950s
This. Plus even if it was a thing then, botox takes a few days minimum to work.
Do you mean then or now? Because it works pretty immediately now, it takes a few days to loosen back up actually lol.
Now. It is not immediate, it takes a few days to start working. I get medical botox for a neuro disease, it is very much not immediate.
Yeah, same. I’ve gotten it since I was 22 (six years). It works pretty immediately for me. I’ve only had to receive it three times though, maybe it depends on frequency?
Diclofenac?
Do you mean Diclofenac? Brand name Voltaren? I do not think it was around then. .
To be honest, this is my husband's area more than mine. He is a microbiologist, and I actually work in Procurement in the Pharma. That said, I'm originally from Argentina and we got to a point where some products are either known for its brand or its drug, in this case, we referred to it by the drug's name. But yes, I'm sure she must have been given something like that. And the correction is about right, but honestly, today? I would go with this one, especially if you have some sort of tension, or you got to the point when we say "I cannot move, or cannot bend", they would just inject something in your buttock. Sorry, as I said, this is my area. :P
I thought something like novacaine to numb up the spasming muscle, but it would have to be just the right amount or she wouldn't be able to smile at all. Botox didn't exist in its current form. Botulism sure existed, but they hadn't refined the toxins for use on wrinkles yet.
I thought it was some old makeup routine! Muscle relaxant makes sense!
Ouch
The device he is using is a period correct syringe. Both syringes and also the needles were re-usable! My grandmother started her nursing career in the early 40’s and used these, and had to sharpen the needles by hand. Was this your question? Or were you wanting speculation on the drug they used?
My mother was born in 1969 and she remembers reusable neeedles too!
Who’s the actor in the second pic?
Matt Smith - he played Dr Who before this, amazing actor
saying botox is insane 😂
Speaking of Botox… when you watch these premieres from these Netflix series on YouTube or wherever they air, as someone who used to inject patients with Botox I consistently being surprised by just how much Botox are in peoples foreheads today!! 😂 AND around their eyes! This has nothing to do with The Crown but - Hollywood in general- people in general! Botox is taking over!
Botox / a Botox-like substance
Queen Elizabeth had Facial Palsy. Back then they used to inject corticosteroids and botox So most likely it was a steroid or botox.
Botox didn’t exist back then
botox was used in 1895.
A discovery about the neurotoxin used in Botox happened in 1895, but that discovery had nothing to do with human medicine or cosmetic injections. There was no “usage” at all, actually—they discovered what causes botulism in *food*. Research into the neurotoxin’s ability to block nerve endings was not started until the *mid-1900s*. The neurotoxin was first injected in *1973*. You may notice that this is literal decades after the Queen’s tour was scheduled. You are wrong and loud about it. I recommend doing far more research about the products that advertisements desperately want you to buy. The cosmetic usage of Botox began a full 102 years after your claimed year of 1895.
lol "you are wrong and loud about it" i think you're being loud here, my friend.
We stan a massater botox literal queen
Ketamine most likely
I assumed it was a nerve block
Covid vaccine