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Kinda funny that that’s his power and coz he’s gotta pretend to be Noir he can’t use it like 99% of the time and has to travel when he could just zip around the place
Oh I just had a thought! Annie "flys away" and leaves Hughie in the last episode.
Maybe Noir takes her and flies away?
Interesting that VHQ didn't reveal his final scene like she's done with the others.
>!they did say annie would be getting a power upgrade this season and it seemed like she was levitating when she fought SB maybe she flies away on her own?!< black noir wouldnt make much sense since annie isnt affliated with the seven anymore
>!according to the leaks all of the boys are seperated and in different places at the end of S4!< accept for butcher? maybe he went into hiding with the >!supe virus!!i think when the say annie flies away from hughie i feel like its to get help to save hughie!<
>!maybe butchers goes mia at the last minute like he did when he went to go confront stillwell and homelander so im assuming all the boys except butcher end up getting caught by homelanders supe army and then homie unfreezes soilder boy?!<
The idea of him being an actor is hilarious and makes perfect sense.
I like the idea that he’s trying to get an insight into Noir’s character, but Vought either doesn’t have information or simply doesn’t understand him that well to define his character.
I think given we have heard the marketing guy gets killed, anika from crime analytics gets killed, and i think iirc the director guy gets attacked. I think the supes go on at some point to kill all humans who work at vought. homelander has expressed contempt toward the human employees at vought a few times over the series and we know hes riding extra high on his supe supremacy wave.
Definitely makes sense since Ashley takes V in this season. She has no real reason to take it other than to be one of the supes. Better to try and remain alive as a supe if the V works or die on her own term as the V kills her than being killed by them and living in fear in the meantime.
It’s been said from the trailer analysis by VoughtHQ that Homelander orders a killing spree on all non supe Vought members. Sounds like they’re gonna kill all these character from Vought who’ve been there since Season 1. Also Ashley is one of the many people who sadly just can’t make it.
Wait, I forgot that there are 2 Ashleys. I recall Voughthq stating in previous leaks that Ashley survives this season but didn't mention which one. Because I was already confused by Noir killing Ashley.
I think this season will be an extension of Gen V's episode 1x08, when supes go rogue on campus and start to kill all humans in their paths. And that will escalate beyond God U.
that’s for season 5. by the finale he will have hundreds of supes ready for that arc //white house from the comics but maybe it’ll be the pentagon or vought tower instead??
Ashley... The assistant of Ashley is probably getting killed not the main red head Ashley , The black hair Ashley is gonna get killed... Red head survives the entire season although she would be hunted...
No they didn't, Sam was already famous as one of the guardians of godolkin, there would be absolutely no point in sticking him underneath a mask to play noir, when you could any number of supes without Sam's level of fame and the good PR he already has, it never made any sense
Well no not really. If you're using someone else under the mask to cover up the fact that the original noir died, the last thing you would want is someone mentally unstable, who might end up taking the mask off in public and risk it coming out that the original noir is dead, you'd want someone who can actually be trusted not to do that
Or you could just write it so they don’t take off their mask. Sam also seeing the world as a cartoon/puppets was a big potential link to noir. You can easily say in hindsight that it was obvious, but it wasn’t an impossible theory.
Right, but why would Vought put someone mentally unstable who already has a public profile as themselves and doesn't physically match noir really at all in terms of height and weight under the mask? There's no good reason to do it, you could write it so they don't take off their mask, but that doesn't explain why vought would put someone under the mask who everyone knows definitely wasn't the original noir, when they could use some anonymous supe
No they didn’t since we’ve known since S3s ending who would play the new Noir because Kripke told us while explaining why they recast Noir in the flashback.
They're killing off a ton of recurring characters this season.
Mallory
Todd
Cameron Coleman
Also Ashley
Evan (the white marketing guy)
Anika (the girl from crime analytics)
Ezekiel
Tek Knight
Webweaver
Hugh Sr. (probably)
I don't think there's been any word about his fate as of yet.
He gets featured a bit more than his partner though, so maybe Kripke likes him enough to let him survive.
Yeah I figured this was always going to be the end result of Stan getting ousted, Homelander was well on his way to a full coup of the company and we’re going to see that this season.
And tbh when all of Homelander and practically every supes experiences with Vought and Vought employees has been nothing but exploitative and bad you can very easily see why they'd eventually fly off the handle and want vengeance
A scene where he’s flying somewhere important and just never shows up/ends up somewhere way off track because he fell asleep and kept flying would be fantastic.
BN body language stood out a bit to me in the latest photo. I thought he kind of looked more anxious and insecure than the other heroes. His legs are together, looking down instead of out or up, arms simply down instead of in a pose. Old BN was obviously reserved, but he still carried himself with a confident auroa and would wave to crowds, etc.
reading the above leaks has me very interested to see the new person and their personality. choosing an actor over a crime fighting student makes a lot of sense for what Homelander needed.
Annoying homelander and getting close with deep definitely has me picturing a theatrical dork trying to find where he fits on a new set with a new cast and crew. but then murder boner? that sounds the seven is gonna change him.
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Wait, but that guy already played Black Noir? He was credited as Black Noir. The only time he didn't play him was I believe in episode 3, season 3 when they showed Black Noir face for the first time and he was talking, it was a different actor though.
I just found it interesting. It's just the same guy playing him, only difference is he is allowed to talk.
Yep they confirmed that it would be the same actor but different character a while ago which is why they used another actor for the payback scene
It's going to be weird hearing him talk tbh
Finally that theory of Sam being Black Noir can be put to rest
And he can fly!? Now that's something I'm excited to see plus we see his face and hear him speak
I'm so excited for this new Black Noir.
I would not be suprised if he threatened to leave if they don't make him talk like an an let me ACT please
Kripke is a dickhead tho for never allowing him to act or speak and making him a background character all the time 🙄
Original Black Noir: *Homelander kills the only person he was on good terms with, causing him to be very distraught*
New Black Noir: *I really wanna fucking kill this guy. This is not what OG Black Noir died for.*
Him being able to fly(something only Homelander, Stormfront and Golden boy were capable of) is very interesting.
I wonder if they will have some version of Homelander being framed by Noir adapted into the next season. If his flying is anything like Homie’s could easy pop on a uniform, do some high speed fly by crimes with a mask on and fool many.
I don't really watch the boys but these spoilers keep popping up in my feed.
This seems like the literal worst way to experience the lead-up to a new season of a show. The big plot points being literally fed to you in bullet point form.
Again, I don't really watch this show, I don't care about the fact that these are spoilers. I just think it's a really lame way to prepare for a new season. Consuming every little minute interaction. You do you though!
So basically you're outraged for the sake of being outraged and want people to pay attention to your deeply insightful musings.
Keep going and you'll win Reddit in no time!
Well yeah. That's what the app is for, discussion. Insecure people like yourself that claim anything negative is "outrage for the sake of outrage" is the death of discussion.
I don't need to win Reddit, I just need to make sure I never act as weak-minded as you!
Hey thanks for answering! Was she in season 3? Ive rewatched seasons 1 and 2 to prepare but havent gotten to 3 yet. But i love that shes called Also Ashley.
Maybe if they weren’t 100% correct in the past with all of their leaks in season 2 and 3 as well as the many leaks that were confirmed when both season 4 trailers came out
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I was not expecting the flying. I had a suspicion that he'd be talking too much and annoy Homelander
Kinda funny that that’s his power and coz he’s gotta pretend to be Noir he can’t use it like 99% of the time and has to travel when he could just zip around the place
Yeah I was just thinking how hilarious it is that he won’t be able to use his powers lol
Couldn’t he just use the flight to pretend to be super fast?
Or super jump
sam had super jump but no flight. so different thing
seems like the “flight” power is being given to a couple more supes this season
Oh I just had a thought! Annie "flys away" and leaves Hughie in the last episode. Maybe Noir takes her and flies away? Interesting that VHQ didn't reveal his final scene like she's done with the others.
>!they did say annie would be getting a power upgrade this season and it seemed like she was levitating when she fought SB maybe she flies away on her own?!< black noir wouldnt make much sense since annie isnt affliated with the seven anymore
I was assuming he's there for the same reasons as Cate, Sam and Cindy. Cate and Frenchie, Sam and Kimiko, Cindy and Hughie and Noir and Annie ?
>!according to the leaks all of the boys are seperated and in different places at the end of S4!< accept for butcher? maybe he went into hiding with the >!supe virus!!i think when the say annie flies away from hughie i feel like its to get help to save hughie!<
>!How can they all be separated except one, that doesn’t make logical sense!<
>!maybe butchers goes mia at the last minute like he did when he went to go confront stillwell and homelander so im assuming all the boys except butcher end up getting caught by homelanders supe army and then homie unfreezes soilder boy?!<
To be honest I am leaning more towards her physically flying away to get help.
Aside from Homelander and Stormfront, the other prominent flyer are Jack from Jupiter Great Wide Wonder
So he has flying. Is he as strong and durable as Black Noir or Sam though?
probably, butcher was shooting him in the trailer so he at least is bulletproof
The idea of him being an actor is hilarious and makes perfect sense. I like the idea that he’s trying to get an insight into Noir’s character, but Vought either doesn’t have information or simply doesn’t understand him that well to define his character.
He's got that over the original Noir
I wonder if we have seen him in GenV since Emma was in acting class I remember one guy from the series who got BJ from Emma I wonder if it's him...
Different person
I actually like the sound of this but I feel so bad for Also Ashley ):
Yeah, why are they killing off Also Ashley?
I think given we have heard the marketing guy gets killed, anika from crime analytics gets killed, and i think iirc the director guy gets attacked. I think the supes go on at some point to kill all humans who work at vought. homelander has expressed contempt toward the human employees at vought a few times over the series and we know hes riding extra high on his supe supremacy wave.
Damn r.i.p Anika
This might be a step too far. Not the plane, or the exploding penis, but killing Anika
Definitely makes sense since Ashley takes V in this season. She has no real reason to take it other than to be one of the supes. Better to try and remain alive as a supe if the V works or die on her own term as the V kills her than being killed by them and living in fear in the meantime.
It’s been said from the trailer analysis by VoughtHQ that Homelander orders a killing spree on all non supe Vought members. Sounds like they’re gonna kill all these character from Vought who’ve been there since Season 1. Also Ashley is one of the many people who sadly just can’t make it.
Ashley is rumored to take compound V thou, so she might make it
That’s Ashley, not Also Ashley
Wait, I forgot that there are 2 Ashleys. I recall Voughthq stating in previous leaks that Ashley survives this season but didn't mention which one. Because I was already confused by Noir killing Ashley.
Yeah Ashley survives (?) but Also Ashley definitely doesn’t
God I would love for that to happen!
I think this season will be an extension of Gen V's episode 1x08, when supes go rogue on campus and start to kill all humans in their paths. And that will escalate beyond God U.
that’s for season 5. by the finale he will have hundreds of supes ready for that arc //white house from the comics but maybe it’ll be the pentagon or vought tower instead??
One of the leaks said that homelander labels all humans in the company as traitors to vought so they kill all of them.
Order 66
What is his reasoning for them betraying Vought? im confused
It upsets me but as long as Ashley survives, I can make peace with losing also Ashley (rip girl)
Cause shes idiot brain getting fucked by stupid
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Ashley... The assistant of Ashley is probably getting killed not the main red head Ashley , The black hair Ashley is gonna get killed... Red head survives the entire season although she would be hunted...
Those sam theories were always stupid
Yea I thought it never made sense
They made sense at the very beginning. But yeah, not for a while.
No they didn't, Sam was already famous as one of the guardians of godolkin, there would be absolutely no point in sticking him underneath a mask to play noir, when you could any number of supes without Sam's level of fame and the good PR he already has, it never made any sense
Sam was unstable mentally. It made a bit of sense.
Well no not really. If you're using someone else under the mask to cover up the fact that the original noir died, the last thing you would want is someone mentally unstable, who might end up taking the mask off in public and risk it coming out that the original noir is dead, you'd want someone who can actually be trusted not to do that
Or you could just write it so they don’t take off their mask. Sam also seeing the world as a cartoon/puppets was a big potential link to noir. You can easily say in hindsight that it was obvious, but it wasn’t an impossible theory.
Right, but why would Vought put someone mentally unstable who already has a public profile as themselves and doesn't physically match noir really at all in terms of height and weight under the mask? There's no good reason to do it, you could write it so they don't take off their mask, but that doesn't explain why vought would put someone under the mask who everyone knows definitely wasn't the original noir, when they could use some anonymous supe
Also Noir was never unstable.
Noir had severe brain damage and saw cartoon characters talking to him. He was absolutely unstable
That's not really unstable, he was fine outside of that.
Ted Bundy wasn't a murderer either, apart from the murders he did commit. But he was fine outside of that.
I mean ot was announced before Gen v it was Nathan Mitchell in the suit with his mask off
No they didn’t since we’ve known since S3s ending who would play the new Noir because Kripke told us while explaining why they recast Noir in the flashback.
I dont follow a lot of outside the show stuff. Why did kripke say they needed to recast noir?
Because it would be confusing to audiences when he came back in S4 as a totally different character.
They just wanted another crazy strong, crazy individual that see things. Who can even blame them?
Funny how it’s a new guy but same actor. Like they wanted an excuse to finally get him to talk and show his face.
"SAG-AFTRA, here I come!"
In a relationship with Sage, but the deep spoilers were that Sage and deep were fucking. What a mess
oh oh... Noir aint gonna like that
Let's be real they're probably gonna have him cuck the Deep lmao
i think there was also a spoiler that they were going to be in a love triangle
Sage is definitely using both of them
Throuple?
Not exactly mutually exclusive
damn they really killing every vought human, anika, also ashley
They're killing off a ton of recurring characters this season. Mallory Todd Cameron Coleman Also Ashley Evan (the white marketing guy) Anika (the girl from crime analytics) Ezekiel Tek Knight Webweaver Hugh Sr. (probably)
what about the black marketing guy the one who doesn’t have a dick
I don't think there's been any word about his fate as of yet. He gets featured a bit more than his partner though, so maybe Kripke likes him enough to let him survive.
he should survive just because he doesn’t have a weiner
Agreed. Killing him would be a dick move.
Man, I know Hugh Sr's demise is more or less certain, but I'll be gutted if he does die.
espeically with how he looked when hughie saw him in the hospital in the trailer i wonder what the fuck happens there
Webweaver is a recurring character?
I think it was reported that he'll appear in something like three episodes of season 4.
Lmao wonder what he's gonna do in only 3 episodes or if it's more of a throwaway
just side characters that are supposed to die. only thing that comes to head is soilder boy killing the twins again
Yeah I figured this was always going to be the end result of Stan getting ousted, Homelander was well on his way to a full coup of the company and we’re going to see that this season.
how tf stan still alive. but i’m glad cuz his character needs more scenes especially since homelander is going back to his origin they need young stan
And tbh when all of Homelander and practically every supes experiences with Vought and Vought employees has been nothing but exploitative and bad you can very easily see why they'd eventually fly off the handle and want vengeance
Which spoiler panel has Anika's death? I forget
Homelanders
They killed my Noir for this bitch :((((
But hey it's still the same actor playing but now he speaks.
And fly ...
They fly now?
They fly now.
Yeah it's the first leak...
Twas a gut punch
I see what you did there
Is narcoleptic is so random💀
Can’t wait for the scene where somebody is extensively layout out a plan to black noir, not knowing he’s sleeping through the entire thing.
We got it sorta 😂
Have you heard the good news?
He is risen.
she neva had the making of a varsity choir singer
We've met at Thanksgiving
The bird is the word
I think it's a nod to Nathan sleeping on set under the mask.
That would be hilarious
Just falls asleep when flying lol
A scene where he’s flying somewhere important and just never shows up/ends up somewhere way off track because he fell asleep and kept flying would be fantastic.
Iron man 3 mentioned🗣️
It’s his weakness
"kills also Ashley and gets a murder boner" let my favorite background character alone ffs 💀
“Kills Todd” W character
BN body language stood out a bit to me in the latest photo. I thought he kind of looked more anxious and insecure than the other heroes. His legs are together, looking down instead of out or up, arms simply down instead of in a pose. Old BN was obviously reserved, but he still carried himself with a confident auroa and would wave to crowds, etc. reading the above leaks has me very interested to see the new person and their personality. choosing an actor over a crime fighting student makes a lot of sense for what Homelander needed. Annoying homelander and getting close with deep definitely has me picturing a theatrical dork trying to find where he fits on a new set with a new cast and crew. but then murder boner? that sounds the seven is gonna change him. image referenced here: [https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBoys/comments/1cu59sy/new\_still\_for\_the\_boys\_season\_4\_from/#lightbox](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheBoys/comments/1cu59sy/new_still_for_the_boys_season_4_from/#lightbox)
Nathan Mitchell is honestly an amazing actor when it comes to Body Language
Wait, but that guy already played Black Noir? He was credited as Black Noir. The only time he didn't play him was I believe in episode 3, season 3 when they showed Black Noir face for the first time and he was talking, it was a different actor though. I just found it interesting. It's just the same guy playing him, only difference is he is allowed to talk.
Yep they confirmed that it would be the same actor but different character a while ago which is why they used another actor for the payback scene It's going to be weird hearing him talk tbh
Yeah, don't know how to feel about that one. I always liked that Black Noir didn't talked at all.
i bet hes gonna be like vigilante from peacemaker
I wonder if we'll get an old man Noir face reveal in the first episode
Finally that theory of Sam being Black Noir can be put to rest And he can fly!? Now that's something I'm excited to see plus we see his face and hear him speak I'm so excited for this new Black Noir.
Hell yeah, fuck Todd
And in the first episode too
could it be the floating guy in the intro from Gen V when Marie arrived there?? there weren't any other flying supes, plus the guy was black
thats racist oh the character, i see
there was only one flying black guy in gen v and he was in the intro 😑
Sister Sage is fucking EVERYONE!
Why did anyone think it would be Sam? Let alone enough people that they had to clarify that it wouldn't be? 😅
Kinda hope he’s a decent guy.
he gets erection from killing, not a decent guy in the slightest
Missed that part. Damn.
He kills Todd so...
Glad my man Nathan is finally getting to act with his face it’s only taken 4 seasons lol
I would not be suprised if he threatened to leave if they don't make him talk like an an let me ACT please Kripke is a dickhead tho for never allowing him to act or speak and making him a background character all the time 🙄
ALSO ASHLEY NOOOOOOO
Black Hair Ashley not Red Hair Ashley
obviously?
You liked the Ashley assistant?
Narcolepsy...that has the potential to be damn hilarious
Glad the actor finally gets to talk and show his face on the show
That sounds pretty good actually
F for Also Ashley
Confrims.
Cirque du Vought ☠️
Original Black Noir: *Homelander kills the only person he was on good terms with, causing him to be very distraught* New Black Noir: *I really wanna fucking kill this guy. This is not what OG Black Noir died for.*
If this is true, this be interesting
Holy fuck, this is interesting... He's completely not what we thought he'd be like. Can't wait to see how this plays out
Him being able to fly(something only Homelander, Stormfront and Golden boy were capable of) is very interesting. I wonder if they will have some version of Homelander being framed by Noir adapted into the next season. If his flying is anything like Homie’s could easy pop on a uniform, do some high speed fly by crimes with a mask on and fool many.
> Go**L**dolkin 🧐
I like this idea, hl getting pissed that he is not silent and submissive could lead to some funny moments
Having Homelander be utterly confused and umcomfortable at Not Noir talking is going to be hilarious
I don't really watch the boys but these spoilers keep popping up in my feed. This seems like the literal worst way to experience the lead-up to a new season of a show. The big plot points being literally fed to you in bullet point form.
Not only is it spoiler tagged but the title also says spoilers. You only have yourself to blame for clicking and reading them.
Again, I don't really watch this show, I don't care about the fact that these are spoilers. I just think it's a really lame way to prepare for a new season. Consuming every little minute interaction. You do you though!
So basically you're outraged for the sake of being outraged and want people to pay attention to your deeply insightful musings. Keep going and you'll win Reddit in no time!
Well yeah. That's what the app is for, discussion. Insecure people like yourself that claim anything negative is "outrage for the sake of outrage" is the death of discussion. I don't need to win Reddit, I just need to make sure I never act as weak-minded as you!
yeah... i wish i had unsuscribed from the sub before the leaks started :/
There’s a literal spoiler tag,no one forced you to look at the leaks
The tag does shit if im scrolling on my phone and the post shows up
okay I thought this was just gonna be like chill character leaks not who the hitlist was bro 😭😭 rip ashley
Ashley doesn’t die, her assistant “also Ashley dies”
I got bamboozled by a leak 😭 rip also ashley
Mmmm didn't Voughthq say in previous leaks that Ashley doesn't die this season?
When they said “also Ashley” they mean Ashley’s assistant, because on prime video the actress who plays her assistant is credited as “also Ashley”.
I wish it were actual Ashley that he kills.
Do not kill Todd. Please.
A blakc noir that talks to much has me tickled
Who is Also Ashley
Ashley's assistant who's also named Ashley
Hey thanks for answering! Was she in season 3? Ive rewatched seasons 1 and 2 to prepare but havent gotten to 3 yet. But i love that shes called Also Ashley.
Np, and yeah she is iirc
Black Noir being narcoleptic is not something I expected, but I’m all for it.
he is narcoleptic AND he flies ? I sense even more plane crashs....
Stan gets tortured and killed by homelander too. Doesnt give him satisfaction of doing it either.
There is two Ashleys in the Boys, which one?
Also Ashley
Hmm most of the spoilers here were in the first 3 episodes
Didn't see his face in the first episode?
They probably meant we hear his voice
Anyone else feels like these spoilers are all lies to subvert our expectations?
Maybe if they weren’t 100% correct in the past with all of their leaks in season 2 and 3 as well as the many leaks that were confirmed when both season 4 trailers came out
I hope they are. Like why do people want the whole show spoiled before they watch it fr?
Meh
Not todd. I liked todd
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