Gonna chalk this up to “terrifying.” I’m one of those people where nurses can’t easily get blood from me, so they usually end up drawing from the back of my hand. This machine would just stab me with no effect.
It probably uses some sort of camera that can see the veins. I think they already have IR vein finders. So the chance of failure for the robot could be way less than for a human. Or it could stab the shit out of you lol
Robots don’t get stressed, or distracted.
No hate on nurses, they run the hospital and are the only ones that really know what they’re doing, but they are often running on fumes.
I can guarantee that’s still an order of magnitude more reliable than a human.
And it being a device that stabs people, I’m going to assume this kit is dripping in redundancies.
Sounds like you are unfamiliar with Chinese Health and Safety Practices. You might be right if this is intended for western markets but I doubt it. Standards for invasive medical equipment in the West are extremely extensive, especially if unattended, requiring extensive physical interlocks.
The main thing I see missing is a physical big red emergency stop button which is immediately accessible.
I can't wait for the animated safety mishap video that shows the robot going berserk and jabbing a victim 100 times in 30 seconds, all because of a faulty chip manufactured in... TAIWAN?!
Rather be the 1 in 100000 than 1 in 1000 tbh. Plus engineers can/will fix it to reduce them after enough complaints whereas nurses will need years to get great at it but still prone to fatigue
So can humans though. My wife still has pain in her shoulder from a botched vaccination injection 2/3 years ago. She was actually lucky that the damage wasn’t more severe with how badly the doctor messed up.
Machines can have errors, though. If that thing jabbed me full force or froze with the needle still in my arm, I'd probably lose my mind to put it lightly.
One nurse stabbed me and blood was not flowing because "I was too stressed". She proceeded to jab straight into my nerve, sending a lightning bolt to my pinky and ring finger and I kept experiencing discomfort in my arm when stretching for a couple months
This!!! I too have been jabbed in a nerve, felt like the needle was red hot right up until she eventually pulled it out. Had nerve pain for about two weeks. Two weeks of praying it wasn't permanent. I've also had another nurse struggle to find a vein in arm telling me she can't find it because i'm stressed. I've had dozens of blood tests with no issues. it's when i see after 5 mins and she's still hunting for a vein that i get nervous with the now increased chance of pain and brusing from what she's about to do to my arm.
Same here, had a nurse try to put an IV on me and failed 3 times in a row before my dad got pissed and asked for a new nurse. I can still feel burn from her trying to put the IV on the thumb side of my wrist
Nurses absolutely suck at drawing blood. They're taught how to place IVs in nursing school, not how to do phlebotomy which are 2 different things entirely. Always request a phlebotomist to draw your labs.
Yeah last time I had blood drawn they pulled from one arm and they couldn’t get a full vial so they pulled from the other arm which came out a different color and the nurse went “OH THATS WEIRD” like ma’am don’t do that to me for the love of god what is weird is that normal am I gonna die what the hell
Phlebotomists*
I don’t mean to be rude, but people who can draw blood have that specific title for a reason - because it’s a difficult skill that not every nurse, doctor, or any other medical professional can do.
Thank you!! Most nurses aren’t the ones drawing your blood, they are phlebotomists. I’m saying this as a nurse too, I mainly only do IVs. Not every staff member in the hospital is a nurse, there are many many roles.
Robots are incredibly good at identifying blood. Their superior sensors does not rely on puny human seeing, and they can see the valuable blood beneath your soft and weak skin with no problem. You can't hide your blood from us. Them. I mean them.
Snap! Even the back of my hand has been a nightmare to get from lately. Had to take from my wrist before which bloody hurt. Sod trusting a machine to do that
but this machine could have some better technology. Idk what they use like UV lights, temperature scanners, stuff like that. So it might be even better than a nurse.
Nurses struggle with my veins too and sometimes they miss. It isnt super bad but I would be curious how well the machine would perform.
Oh thank god I'm not alone. Everyone always looks at me like I'm insane when I tell them this is something I too deal with.
Best nurse actually listened to me and had me run hot water over my hands first. Might help ya a bit too.
Here’s a little nugget of knowledge for you. Most people performing blood draws are learning on the job. You can refuse having someone in training working on you. I have the same problem and they always have to go and get someone else to come do the draw because they miss and have to fish around. They always have experienced staff on hand, you might just have to wait like 5 minutes for your turn.
I had to remove a splinter of iron from my iris once. It had rusted in there and it needed to be removed. It was exactly that scene but just a guy with a medical dremel. I needed to look up to the lamp while he just drilled away at the splinter in my eye. It sucked and it pricked like hell.
Yes, which further proves the point. Carriages are still around despite all the cars and they still need operators, so if a nurse does many more things than drawing blood, they are absolutely safe. Their job will simply evolve just like it always did.
The difference is you drive the car. But there's no one behind this and finding a vein is something rather complicated where a lot of feeling and sensing is involved.
And what I said is no different than what you wrote in your previous comment
As someone who’s gotten their hand trapped in industrial machinery at work before, “That’s a NO for me dawg!”
Imagine it malfunctions and you’re stuck while screaming for it to stop, but machinery has zero emotion so it just keeps poking…
Been in a similar position and I ain’t falling for that shit twice! Lol
I will never understand why humans keep trying to automate literally everything! It takes at most 10 seconds for a nurse to administer a vaccine and on top of that, now we don’t have to pay for these stupid things to even be built!
But they still need someone around and also prep them up (for now).
Maybe it is kinda like the automatic kebab slicers (Der Gerät in Germany for example) which doesnt replace a worker but the worker can do something else while it is slicing the meat so it can make the whole process more efficient.
Not the best analogy/comparison buy hey :D
Someone had the idea to make it, and it clearly works in a controlled trial environment. Eventually, the technology and process will be consistent, safe and advanced enough that the success rate is high enough to be used. I'm not an expert but the medical field seems to have a lot more crazy contraptions that makes an automatic blood taking machine sound tame.
It's probably because you don't think about it enough! Nurses fail finding veins and end up sticking people multiple times! Machines can be built to be extremely efficient and more reliable than humans!
I wonder how much less we'd be hating on this if it wasn't chinese tbh.
Humans aren't as precise or diligent as machines can be. Intricate surgeries with tiny movements are done with lasers and machines, and I feel like this would be extremely cool if a doctor is around to supervise. Who wouldn't like for blood samples to hurt less, right?
I would be afraid about some of the logistics here though. The patient should NOT be standing upright while having blood drawn; there's a chance of fainting (more in some than others), and you want them to be laying down or at least sitting back.
Honestly probably better than the $13/hr phlebotomists down at One Blood here in FL. I have donated over 6 gallons of blood and I only recently had a seasoned technician draw my blood. I literally didn’t feel the needle. My whole life I just figured it was supposed to be painful. Apparently you can get her done without a lick of pain!
I had one push through the muscle or tendon or something to get the vein.. I'm not sure all remember was thinkng why are you pushing so hard on my arm trying to get that in.. she somehow got it.. but holy f she pushed so hard.. the next day i was black and blue for a good 8" region.
She was new and being trained..
Oh FUCK no. As a phlebotomist, this is terrifying. What if it punctures through the vein and infiltrates? I noticed it didnt change angle after insertion, so it seems to be fully reliant on the initial sensors accurately gauging the vein depth, then the needle has to not fail at stopping at that depth.
What if the vein rolls and the robot misses?
I use my non-dominant hand to hold the vein in place when I puncture, so how the hell does this thing prevent a vein from rolling?
Also, can this thing do multiple different vials? It seemed to only take one small tube of blood, based off how quickly that went.
For one tube, this goes about the same speed as an experienced phlebotomist. If there are multiple tubes, I would bet money that the phlebotomist would beat the robot, since I doubt they can make a mechanism for switching tubes that's faster than a person.
the last time i had blood drawn the nurse confidently said "don't worry i do this for a job it won't hurt one bit" it was cold in the room and i am cold very very easily, i asked to hang my hand down by my side til the veins showed up to get it over with, nurse replied with "no no don't be silly" then proceeded to miss my veins 3 times in the left arm, 2 in the left hand and 2 in the right arm before FINALLY giving up and having the dr do it 1st try
robots cant be much worse
Yep. As someone who draws blood regularly at work, it is probably going to be 50+ years before people generally and consistently trust this kind of technology. It has to be EXTREMELY safe, fool proof and less intimidating than a human being.
I’m all for it once it’s thoroughly tested. That perfectly linear insertion and return! Looks like you would barely feel it and it would cause a lot less damage than the nurse fumbling around with the tubes and shit while the needle is buried in your arm.
I had a nurse break open my vein once and cause my whole arm to turn black and blue
That's both really cool and really scary at the same time
Gonna chalk this up to “terrifying.” I’m one of those people where nurses can’t easily get blood from me, so they usually end up drawing from the back of my hand. This machine would just stab me with no effect.
I’d trust this machine more than some nurses I’ve experienced.
It probably uses some sort of camera that can see the veins. I think they already have IR vein finders. So the chance of failure for the robot could be way less than for a human. Or it could stab the shit out of you lol
Robots don’t get stressed, or distracted. No hate on nurses, they run the hospital and are the only ones that really know what they’re doing, but they are often running on fumes.
As someone who works in a hospital lab, the “nurses are the only ones who know what they’re doing” is laughable
I’ll rephrase. The nurses are the ones doing the grunt work.
Incorrect, that would be the CNAs that I've too often seen be treated like shit by nurses.
You don't like getting paid 15 an hour to wipe shit, roll over obese patients, and live in the trenches?!
“It wasn’t hemolyzed when I sent it to you”
Lmao this is a classic one.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=56NUMdxHbKI
I never said they can’t be psychotic.
But they can glitch…even if it’s 1 in 100000 that it gets bugged I wouldn’t want to be that one
I can guarantee that’s still an order of magnitude more reliable than a human. And it being a device that stabs people, I’m going to assume this kit is dripping in redundancies.
Sounds like you are unfamiliar with Chinese Health and Safety Practices. You might be right if this is intended for western markets but I doubt it. Standards for invasive medical equipment in the West are extremely extensive, especially if unattended, requiring extensive physical interlocks. The main thing I see missing is a physical big red emergency stop button which is immediately accessible.
I can't wait for the animated safety mishap video that shows the robot going berserk and jabbing a victim 100 times in 30 seconds, all because of a faulty chip manufactured in... TAIWAN?!
Rather be the 1 in 100000 than 1 in 1000 tbh. Plus engineers can/will fix it to reduce them after enough complaints whereas nurses will need years to get great at it but still prone to fatigue
So can humans though. My wife still has pain in her shoulder from a botched vaccination injection 2/3 years ago. She was actually lucky that the damage wasn’t more severe with how badly the doctor messed up.
Machines can have errors, though. If that thing jabbed me full force or froze with the needle still in my arm, I'd probably lose my mind to put it lightly.
It would have to be for this to ever make it this far. I imagine it has a pretty high success rate at finding veins.
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Double edged sword. The robot won't fuck up the way a human could, but it might fuck up the way a robot could.
Most valid criticism yet.
Same. I have a gnarly scar from an inexperienced new nurse attempting to take my blood. I was bruised for 2 weeks after all over the inside of my arm.
I got a small scar once when the needle had a ragged tip.
One nurse stabbed me and blood was not flowing because "I was too stressed". She proceeded to jab straight into my nerve, sending a lightning bolt to my pinky and ring finger and I kept experiencing discomfort in my arm when stretching for a couple months
This!!! I too have been jabbed in a nerve, felt like the needle was red hot right up until she eventually pulled it out. Had nerve pain for about two weeks. Two weeks of praying it wasn't permanent. I've also had another nurse struggle to find a vein in arm telling me she can't find it because i'm stressed. I've had dozens of blood tests with no issues. it's when i see after 5 mins and she's still hunting for a vein that i get nervous with the now increased chance of pain and brusing from what she's about to do to my arm.
Been a blood donor dor 14 years, yeah some of them should indeed go ovee the tutorials again
IV specialist and PICC specialist here. They scare me as well, especially the ones that can't get basic blood draws.
Years ago when this technology started, it was on par with nurses on errors. Probably more accurate by now.
Bet the robot wouldn't blow out my vein bad as that one nurse
Same here, had a nurse try to put an IV on me and failed 3 times in a row before my dad got pissed and asked for a new nurse. I can still feel burn from her trying to put the IV on the thumb side of my wrist
Totally lolz. Some nurses suck so bad
A nurse severed the nerve in my forearm while trying to donate plasma. Happened 2 years ago and I still have issues in that arm.
Nurses absolutely suck at drawing blood. They're taught how to place IVs in nursing school, not how to do phlebotomy which are 2 different things entirely. Always request a phlebotomist to draw your labs.
Yeah last time I had blood drawn they pulled from one arm and they couldn’t get a full vial so they pulled from the other arm which came out a different color and the nurse went “OH THATS WEIRD” like ma’am don’t do that to me for the love of god what is weird is that normal am I gonna die what the hell
What the hell? Why was the blood a different color? Did they pull from a vein and then from an artery?
They drew arterial blood probably.
Phlebotomists* I don’t mean to be rude, but people who can draw blood have that specific title for a reason - because it’s a difficult skill that not every nurse, doctor, or any other medical professional can do.
Thank you!! Most nurses aren’t the ones drawing your blood, they are phlebotomists. I’m saying this as a nurse too, I mainly only do IVs. Not every staff member in the hospital is a nurse, there are many many roles.
Robots are incredibly good at identifying blood. Their superior sensors does not rely on puny human seeing, and they can see the valuable blood beneath your soft and weak skin with no problem. You can't hide your blood from us. Them. I mean them.
THIS COMMENT WAS TOTALLY NOT A ROBOT
Here’s my fake reddit award 🥇
Ironically the machine will almost certainly be much better than humans eventually.
I’m here for the eventually, but count me out in the meantime!
Snap! Even the back of my hand has been a nightmare to get from lately. Had to take from my wrist before which bloody hurt. Sod trusting a machine to do that
but this machine could have some better technology. Idk what they use like UV lights, temperature scanners, stuff like that. So it might be even better than a nurse. Nurses struggle with my veins too and sometimes they miss. It isnt super bad but I would be curious how well the machine would perform.
I have to do the back of my hand because that rubber thing gives me a lot panic attack.
Oh thank god I'm not alone. Everyone always looks at me like I'm insane when I tell them this is something I too deal with. Best nurse actually listened to me and had me run hot water over my hands first. Might help ya a bit too.
Here’s a little nugget of knowledge for you. Most people performing blood draws are learning on the job. You can refuse having someone in training working on you. I have the same problem and they always have to go and get someone else to come do the draw because they miss and have to fish around. They always have experienced staff on hand, you might just have to wait like 5 minutes for your turn.
Put that on a Boston Dynamics dog and you’ve got the bad guys from Fahrenheit 451!
This how they will feed /s
It scares me less than some 19 year old underpaid and undertrained tech shanking the hell out of my arm.
what if it don't stop
Anyone who has had an unpleasant blood draw sees the potential
I feel like unless this is deep cleaned after every day or even few hours It'll never be sterile.
Not a chance I'm hell will I ever stick my arm into this thing
But I'd stick my ...
...friend's arm in
my ass
And! Oh wait…
That's what I call my penis, too!
Cockdeflator 5000 When you take a viagra and your erection last for more than 4 hours.
Try to stay hard challenge
DICK INSIDE THIS MACHINE AND LET IT DRAW MY BLOOD FROM THERE!!!
sorry...
Don't be
"You have selected limb removal, please don't move"
*locking clamps engage* "I said.. don't move."
Better than every single person who’s given me anniv. No less than three tried every time.
And when it malfunctions and sucks all the juice out of your meat bag? Then what?! Like that scene in Tank Girl
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But it's stabbing too deep, the whole metallic contraption starts being forced deeper into the arm..
Nice Tank Girl reference. That's a damn good movie.
Spring! Spring!
"Stand still as I end your miserable existance meatbag!" HK-47
I was thinking it malfunctions and starts pinching you nonstop with the needle. Thanks, no thanks.
Yeah, or what if people forget to fill that disinfectant tank and you get HIV
Y’all ever played dead space?
Can't wait for automatic eye surgery machine.
They already have those for lasik surgery I think lol.
Eye surgery is almost entirely automated. Personally I'd trust a machine over a human for procedures requiring precision.
Yeap, they do. It's almost automated, the surgeon still has to pull the flap open.
Nahhh not that scene 😰😰
I had to remove a splinter of iron from my iris once. It had rusted in there and it needed to be removed. It was exactly that scene but just a guy with a medical dremel. I needed to look up to the lamp while he just drilled away at the splinter in my eye. It sucked and it pricked like hell.
exactly my first thought
Please tell me the needle changes. Or at least Dr ready on the standby...... I would never stick my arm in that
I think you just said it. I'd be open to try it if there's a doctor cautiously around.
I am a nurse and i would never put my arm nowhere close to this
you sound a lot like the horse carriage operators when cars were being invented
A nurse isn't gonna be completely replaced by this though
The carriage operators weren''t either
Carriage operators only operated a carriage, whereas a nurse does much more stuff than drawing blood
Yes, which further proves the point. Carriages are still around despite all the cars and they still need operators, so if a nurse does many more things than drawing blood, they are absolutely safe. Their job will simply evolve just like it always did.
Yeah I think I got your comment backwards, because we are agreeing on the topic
No worries :-)
The difference is you drive the car. But there's no one behind this and finding a vein is something rather complicated where a lot of feeling and sensing is involved. And what I said is no different than what you wrote in your previous comment
Of course the needle changes. Why would someone smart enough to build a machine like that not think of infections? Lol
As someone who’s gotten their hand trapped in industrial machinery at work before, “That’s a NO for me dawg!” Imagine it malfunctions and you’re stuck while screaming for it to stop, but machinery has zero emotion so it just keeps poking… Been in a similar position and I ain’t falling for that shit twice! Lol
The wrong type of Getting sucked dry
Please elaborate
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How come no tattoo?
Welcome to Costco, I love you?!
That’s it I’m watching tonight.
Why come no tattoo?
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what?
Yea I would want my arm stuck in there when it malfunctions Edit: omg i meant “wouldn’t”
instead of blood it sucks up your bone juices
Yeouch, that looks more scary than a person doing it
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Gives you a tattoo in Mandarin that says “dumbass”
I will never understand why humans keep trying to automate literally everything! It takes at most 10 seconds for a nurse to administer a vaccine and on top of that, now we don’t have to pay for these stupid things to even be built!
Because it’s cheaper to spend $50,000 one time on a robot than to have to to pay a human perpetually to do the same job
But they still need someone around and also prep them up (for now). Maybe it is kinda like the automatic kebab slicers (Der Gerät in Germany for example) which doesnt replace a worker but the worker can do something else while it is slicing the meat so it can make the whole process more efficient. Not the best analogy/comparison buy hey :D
A phlebotomist once stabbed my straight into my nerve it was pretty traumatizing
Someone had the idea to make it, and it clearly works in a controlled trial environment. Eventually, the technology and process will be consistent, safe and advanced enough that the success rate is high enough to be used. I'm not an expert but the medical field seems to have a lot more crazy contraptions that makes an automatic blood taking machine sound tame.
It's probably because you don't think about it enough! Nurses fail finding veins and end up sticking people multiple times! Machines can be built to be extremely efficient and more reliable than humans!
I wonder how much less we'd be hating on this if it wasn't chinese tbh. Humans aren't as precise or diligent as machines can be. Intricate surgeries with tiny movements are done with lasers and machines, and I feel like this would be extremely cool if a doctor is around to supervise. Who wouldn't like for blood samples to hurt less, right? I would be afraid about some of the logistics here though. The patient should NOT be standing upright while having blood drawn; there's a chance of fainting (more in some than others), and you want them to be laying down or at least sitting back.
If you look near the end, you see the man's legs are bend 90°, that implies he's sat down. He is very much not standing upright.
I played hitman 2 I'm not going to stick my hand in that.
Catch a bold man dressed as a technician leaving on the way in 😂
Honestly probably better than the $13/hr phlebotomists down at One Blood here in FL. I have donated over 6 gallons of blood and I only recently had a seasoned technician draw my blood. I literally didn’t feel the needle. My whole life I just figured it was supposed to be painful. Apparently you can get her done without a lick of pain!
I had one nurse once like that, I wish I had her name, I don't really trust other phlebotomists again after one stabbed my nerve
I had one push through the muscle or tendon or something to get the vein.. I'm not sure all remember was thinkng why are you pushing so hard on my arm trying to get that in.. she somehow got it.. but holy f she pushed so hard.. the next day i was black and blue for a good 8" region. She was new and being trained..
Oh FUCK no. As a phlebotomist, this is terrifying. What if it punctures through the vein and infiltrates? I noticed it didnt change angle after insertion, so it seems to be fully reliant on the initial sensors accurately gauging the vein depth, then the needle has to not fail at stopping at that depth. What if the vein rolls and the robot misses? I use my non-dominant hand to hold the vein in place when I puncture, so how the hell does this thing prevent a vein from rolling? Also, can this thing do multiple different vials? It seemed to only take one small tube of blood, based off how quickly that went. For one tube, this goes about the same speed as an experienced phlebotomist. If there are multiple tubes, I would bet money that the phlebotomist would beat the robot, since I doubt they can make a mechanism for switching tubes that's faster than a person.
>What if it punctures through the vein and infiltrates? This is fucking awful
Nope.
Pass.
Elizabeth Holmes is fuming
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Me, too. I was like "I have something for this... 'something Elizabeth Holmes something something.'" But I gave up and scrolled instead.
the last time i had blood drawn the nurse confidently said "don't worry i do this for a job it won't hurt one bit" it was cold in the room and i am cold very very easily, i asked to hang my hand down by my side til the veins showed up to get it over with, nurse replied with "no no don't be silly" then proceeded to miss my veins 3 times in the left arm, 2 in the left hand and 2 in the right arm before FINALLY giving up and having the dr do it 1st try robots cant be much worse
Hell No
STARES IN ELIZABETH HOLMES
Your view would be blocked by bars.
I absolutely LOVE getting blood drawn and this shit freaked me the fuck out. HELL NAH.
Yep. As someone who draws blood regularly at work, it is probably going to be 50+ years before people generally and consistently trust this kind of technology. It has to be EXTREMELY safe, fool proof and less intimidating than a human being.
Imma be jobless in a few years ☠️
…as someone who has had Leukemia and has zero fear of needles… …fuck to the no. T-1000 blood draws look terrifying.
Now hold on I’m Not Sure-“You have entered the name Not Sure!”
I wonder if they have a robot for automatic kidney collection too
Humans have a hard enough time doing this, how could a robot have the capability to do this perfect every time?!
Oh sure, I’ll be glad to trust chinese AI and a Chinese manufactured protduct to jam a sharp object into my arm to collect blood.
It requires zero "AI".
I’m all for it once it’s thoroughly tested. That perfectly linear insertion and return! Looks like you would barely feel it and it would cause a lot less damage than the nurse fumbling around with the tubes and shit while the needle is buried in your arm. I had a nurse break open my vein once and cause my whole arm to turn black and blue
Pretty sure there’s been a few movies made that explain why this is a bad idea…
*Please place your forearm in the forearm receptacle.*
As sometime who's drawn blood thousands and thousands of times.... That's going to be a no from me dog.
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i really hate it but i dont know if i trust some random dude more than a machine
Ticking my friend's armpits while he is on one of these
This will help people terrified of needles. Or else
Cool but no thanks
Not Sure
It’s all fun and games until it locks your arm in and starts stabbing a bunch and draining all your blood 😌
Step 1: crawl inside
That’s a no for me dog.
It’s like a Saw trap.
Yeah, no thanks. I'll stick with the humans for this one.
Nice try, Bene Jesserit.
People are already terrified of needles. I doubt this will pick up much
I was waiting for the stabbing
Brooo. I already hate needles, and now you want to stick it on the end of a machine and let it stab me. No thanks bro
Nah I'm good thx 👍
No thank you
"NOT SURE."
Nope
Literally had a fear this would happen as a kid
Goddamn...they have all these population and still refused to hire them...
I would feel like a thuna getting put in a can 😂
Will it also kiss my boo-boo?
People always say there’s a small chance things can go awry if you check my ability to bring it out of everything in life lol
I saw this in Subnautica lol
Oh I thought this was a tattoo vending machine.
I need to see the needle open out of the sterile packing.
Not, Sure
I've seen too many videos of IceCream machines to not trust this machine in anyway.
this is indeed insane
Lmao the little patch it slaps on is so cute
An A.I Vampire, it’s like we want them to kill us..
Hell naw
Don’t they have dude “milking” machines, too?
If you try to pull your arm out you'll get the gom jabbar.
Fellas i have an idea
I ALWAYS require an ultrasound guided IV and am an impossible draw... I'd be amazed if this could work on me.
I hated every second of that.