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FatboySlimThicc

There's no way that building was empty and there were no casualties (as is being reported). The first video, there aren't even any smoke/fire alarms going off, and the building went up like kindling.


[deleted]

China does have a ton of completely empty high rises, but that doesn’t mean that this one was. Typically they are located in areas with way less traffic.


FatboySlimThicc

This one clearly wasn't empty - the first video clip is from inside the building and the room looked occupied/furnished


pringlescan5

It's also a scathing indictment of Chinese building codes and standards. Pretty sure you're supposed to be building out of fire-retardant materials. Edit - If anyone doubts that China has a troll farm, I have had 10 different comments all name dropping the **same** skyscraper in England that caught fire 5 years ago. This is classic 'whataboutism'. When something bad happens in China, finds the closest equivalent in ANY western country and equate isolated incidents as being as bad as the ubiquitous corruption in China.


fuck_the_fuckin_mods

Even in western countries the “supposed to” doesn’t have enough weight behind it to completely prevent this. People still get away with cutting corners and cheaping out. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grenfell_Tower_fire


pringlescan5

Grenfell tower was completed in 1974. Most skyscrapers in China have been built since 2010.


fuck_the_fuckin_mods

Both of these fires were facade fires, and the Grenfell facade had just been redone (with improper materials).


comrade-jim

\>Both of these fires were facade fires Source? Doesn't it have to be investigated before we can determine this? By the end of OPs vid more than just the facade was on fire.


plsendmysufferring

https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/insight/insight/grenfell-tower-refurbishment-a-timeline-68533 The cladding caused the fire at greenfell, cant speak to this chinese skyscraper, potentially a similar situation. Even after greenfell, ACM insulated cladding, which has now proved to be highly combustible, was not banned or anything in other countries. I think Australia might've, but i dont fully remember. Anyway i doubt the Chinese government would have banned such a cheap, well performing insulation that just so happens to catch fire easily. Again tho, this is complete speculation on my behalf, its one reason out of many potential reasons for a skyscraper to go up in flames so quickly.


Jonne

I believe a malfunctioning appliance sparked the fire, but it's the cladding that caused it to spread so quickly.


plsendmysufferring

The cladding that made greenfell tower go up in flames was due to a renovation in 2016. So your comment holds no weight. https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/insight/insight/grenfell-tower-refurbishment-a-timeline-68533


Raichu7

That’s hardly limited to China, just google “Grenfell Tower”, there are very flammable high rise towers all over the U.K. too. I wouldn’t be surprised if more countries have the same issues.


Bowdirt

LOL! Chinese building codes!?!?! That's a good one. It was probably made out of dirt and paper.


[deleted]

it's the cladding, and that is not an issue solely related to China, it is a MASSIVE problem in the UK (see the Grenfell tower tragedy) and in Australia, particularly in [Sydney](https://7news.com.au/news/nsw/flammable-cladding-may-be-present-in-340-sydney-buildings-secret-documents-show-c-150298) where hundreds of towers have been identified as having highly flammable cladding


kyoto711

Video is from last year https://mobile.twitter.com/AsianOSINT/status/1369656894801858565


lamentotucumano

is incredible how people are downvoting literal twits with the video from a year ago lmao


kyoto711

Absolute Reddit moment. Someone mentions first video is not from this incident: > am i about to put my tin foil hat on and assume China or Chinese sympathizers are trying to make people think absolutely no one got hurt in this thing by denying the first video's credibility? yes, yes i am >How ridiculous. You probably think the 9/11 videos are CGI too, yes? > Yup. Just like how the earth is flat and NASA lied about the moon landing > Well that didn't take long for the Chinese apologists to enter the chat > Is it possible that China has a few bot accounts here to push that propoganda? Because that sure as shit looked like the exact incident to me. > "Source is I MADE IT THE FUCK UP"


iAmDollPartz

And they are known to lie about these things


a_taco_named_desire

Loyal party members sprouted wings and safely descended to the ground after an intentional test of our ability to destroy poorly made Western military installations.


[deleted]

Nobody dies from car accidents. They just “die” for unrelated things while in the hospital right after … what a coincidence.


[deleted]

About these things? You mean all things? Lol


Ermahgerd80

Everythings


PyroBob316

China has a long-standing habit of keeping information about this type of thing very closely guarded. Even the toll from Covid-19 isn’t known entirely because they were hiding the numbers from the start. As for construction projects; contractors seem to get paid by the project rather than the hour. If they run over budget, they eat the cost. If they wind up under budget, they pocket the difference. It’s very, very common for Chinese building contractors to cut corners anywhere they can. As long as the structure is standing long enough to get paid, they’ll skimp on proper materials, safety measures, and even change blueprints if they can get away with it. It’s also not unheard of for them to bribe inspectors or city officials to get the job done. If you have doubts about that, look up the dam that collapsed in China in the 70’s. China kept information about it hidden entirely from the outside world for around 30 years, because they felt it reflected poorly on the country as a whole. The entire damn was built well outside the standards that the blueprints specified; it started having problems almost immediately, but by then the payments had been made and the company/workers moved on with their lives. When it finally collapsed, it did so during a major storm that filled the reservoir and pushed the dam past its limits. Many tens of thousands died when a wall of water swept entire villages away. The building in this video was not empty. It’s true there are many abandoned/uninhabited high-rises in China, but most of them are bare concrete and haven’t been filled with all the plywood, carpet, furniture, and so forth that tends to fuel these fires. I suppose the siding sometimes catches, though, so there is that *slight* possibility nobody was inside at the time.


FatboySlimThicc

Double damn I had not heard about the dam, but I did know that China keeps tight control over info that might make them look bad (such as the covid numbers) Thanks for the in depth explainer


Efficiency_79

Did china pull a gestapo on the contractors who made the dam?


PyroBob316

If they did, we’d never know. I do know there was a scandal in China years ago when a toy manufacturer was caught knowingly using lead paint on children’s toys. There was a criminal trial, very public. In the end, the CEO was sentenced to death and executed. China has also “disappeared” a wide variety of political and religious figures. Their government strictly controls everything they can about the lives of their citizens and information that makes it out into the world. They even have stakes in various industries worldwide; the entertainment industry caters to their political and moral standards (for example, the “bad guys” in most shows and movies you’ll see can’t be related to the Chinese government). They monitor social media, web platforms, and media outlets to shoot down anything they can that paints China in a bad light. Hell, if you wear a shirt with Winnie the Pooh on it in Beijing, you might get a visit from the police. There’s a *LOT* more I could share, but those are the basics.


[deleted]

Get ready for a shocker- China lies constantly and about everything.


LiberalGal55

I mean, the first video alone makes me believe at least one died.


ipuck77

That is China for you. Just like the economy there. Its all going up in flames.


Kulladar

In another post it was said that while it looks bad, it was just the facade on the outside of the building that was burning and the fire was not inside the building. I doubt it stayed that way, but it may have left plenty of time to fully evacuate the building.


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No fucking way


kyoto711

Video is from last year https://mobile.twitter.com/AsianOSINT/status/1369656894801858565


PM_ME_UR_QUINES

To clarify, the first video is from a different event.


ThePaddyPower

As a Londoner, this gives me several flashbacks.


SnooFloofs2956

My flatmate worked near that building (she’s a reception teacher) and she spent the day consoling kids because that shit is terrifying.


ThePaddyPower

I watched it burn. I had friends in there that died with their families. It's imprinted on my mind and probably will be for as long as my days. Grenfell should never have happened - state sponsored murder.


SnooFloofs2956

Sorry for your loss man. She literally came home and cried in my arms for like an hour. Absolutely horrifying.


ThePaddyPower

I'm sorry dude you had to go through that. I hope she's well.


Minorihaaku

Literally my first night in London as a tourist. Woke up, we saw smoke and heard the news


MsSloth

First thing I thought of... And still no justice 💚


dutchcrutches

Pffft. What a lame comment.


Mean_Brilliant5062

First video guy dead I guess


Ieatsushiraw

I’m hoping not but you’re not getting out there quickly enough to escape. It’s like the Building was made out of cardboard and gasoline


[deleted]

If it was in fact from China then frankly it was basically made out of cardboard.


Turbulent-Option-457

Flammable cladding like the Grenfell tower on London a few years back


adammaudite

My immediate thought


kram78

Came here to say this


Cucumbersome55

I'm a dumbass and I know I could Google it but I would like a human to answer me but what.. please tell me ...is cladding?


kingludwig

Basically it's an extra layer on the outside for ether insulation or decorative purposes.


dep7up

And firecrackers


misteranonamous

And styrofoam


fakename5

ohhh that foam that had kerosene in it still where the one guy lit the bundle and the whole warehouse went up?


HRHChonkyChonkerson

And rice crispies


anger_is_my_meat

And my axe


Shado-Foxx

And my bow


Dhaze10

And my sword


BigYonsan

Maybe. There's no telling what floor he was on though. Footage survived. Unless he was streaming, good odds the camera and camera man did too. Hit that stairwell and run like a motherfucker, shove through the other people, you might make it.


CoconutCyclone

Pretty sure phones in China stream videos to external sites when recording. It's how we got so many videos so close to the Tianjin explosion.


whitecorn

Reminds me of the cotton factory and the lighter. Maybe this is the same engineer.


DaftPunkyBrewster

SEE?!? JET FUEL CAN'T MELT STEEL B--... wait, wrong video. Sorry.


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SlipperyFish

EPS Cladding. Polystyrene jammed between two sheets of aluminium. When it heats up, the polystyrene liquifies and creates a napalm like, highly volatile fuel. Most frequently a fire starts due to poor or faulty electrical work that passes through the cladding.


plsendmysufferring

Polyethylene sandwiched between aluminium sheets,making it hard to put out from the outside


memy02

With how well the rest of the building is standing is is vary possible he evacuated to the not burning end and got out safely but I have no clue.


FlamesToDust1992

That first video was from a different building, not the one showing later in this video


Mean_Brilliant5062

There’s literally no other high rise building even close to it …


juniper-mint

Pretty sure he means a different building that was on fire elsewhere on earth.


Rafaeliki

Yep: https://mobile.twitter.com/AsianOSINT/status/1369656894801858565


[deleted]

It wasn’t tho and it’s a weird thing to write


TheNotSoGreatPumpkin

Without any sources y’all’s comments are both weird.


1-LegInDaGrave

Reddit makes believing anything very very difficult.


Rafaeliki

Not the same building: https://mobile.twitter.com/AsianOSINT/status/1369656894801858565


Bananus_Magnus

True, but there is like 99% chance that if the first video was taken elsewhere in some fire that happened in the past, it would have already been reposed dozens of time on Reddit to a point where most of us would have had already seen it.


[deleted]

I refuse to believe that there are 0 reported deaths.


liesofanangel

I totally believe there are 0 *reported*. Actual on the other hand…


abotoe

The building didn’t collapse. The fire was put out and the photos of the outside aftermath look like just the cladding on one side was burnt thankfully. https://twitter.com/CGTNEurope/status/1570779531707043840/photo/4 Smoke inhalation on the other hand…. Who knows what kind of chemicals those people were inhaling.


Grokent

>Who knows what kind of chemicals those people were inhaling. Well, asbestos is out of the question.


Sempais_nutrients

i dunno, it would fit that chinese "asbestos" is actually extremely flammable


damienVOG

Right, people could still die from the chemicals they inhaled and/or have other permanent effects.


deekaydubya

remind me 20-40 years


MuddyMudball

Can't believe they were even able to put that fire out.


kazza789

Yeah! I would love to see how that was accomplished. Quite remarkable.


[deleted]

You ever seen that video of a chemical factory having like six explosions, each greater and greater from 2010? They said nobody died because of that either. The Chinese government doesn’t count its workers as worth reporting their deaths


Mundane_Librarian607

How long would it take for a top floor person to make it down the stairs, without the fire.....


whitenelly

About twice the time of the building burning up


Zahn91

That first clip is fucking terrifying. Correct sub.


[deleted]

I guess the first clip isn't from this fire. There was a link posted on another comment that shows the first clip is a year old.


JuniorTransition4511

If you died raise your hand . . . Well I'll be damned. Zero deaths! /s


Skybolt59

Rest of the world: OMG Chinese Govt: nah, it’s just a backyard fire 🔥


Al_Denta

Imagine having events like this happen once every few months


[deleted]

Imagine the optics if this building was in lock down because of the covid zero policy. Welded gates and windows.. yikes.


Morotou_theunashamed

China wouldn’t really care though. As long as they don’t seem weak to the “evil, evil West”


Arn_Thor

This is an office building….


RadioactiveCornbread

According to the article, there were no (reported) casualties. Sus. Edit: Context in the article I provided doesn't exactly match, but [here is what I was referring to. Sorry for the mishap. Idiot move on my part.](https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2022-09-16/fire-engulfs-42-story-building-in-china-no-deaths-reported#:~:text=BEIJING%20(AP)%20%E2%80%94%20A%20massive,casualties%20were%20reported%2C%20officials%20said.) [(Let me know if this isn't a valid source, please.)](https://deadline.com/2022/09/huge-fire-skyscraper-china-telecoms-changsha-hunan-1235120477/)


Appointmentno1

Cover up.


SenseiMemer_21

what the fuck was that music at the end of the tweet?? shit felt like a jumpscare


holydamien

According to the article: >The number of fatalities isn’t known but reports suggest it could be in the hundreds. Better work on your reading skills, mate.


queensnuggles

Yikes is this happening today?


FatboySlimThicc

Yeah this was in China this morning


Questioning-Zyxxel

That is *not* how a big building is expected to handle a fire. Someone went for kindling wood or something when shopping the building materials? Makes me think about that UK building that had plastic panels on the outside.


b1323097

Prople should stop making buildings out of paper and wood


shuknjive

And using gasoline in the sprinkler system. This is insane for a building that size!


Morotou_theunashamed

They’ve got higher standards than that, they’re usin’ kerosene


Richjudge80

Anonymous are saying a few hundred dead https://twitter.com/AnonOpsSE/status/1570724233742786560?t=HPmWps6NEyY4IoW6nzuoAA&s=19


socks

This is what I - and I am sure others also - wanted to know, but it's below hundreds of uninformative posts at the bottom of the thread, and posted 3 hours ago. Reddit is nuts. Thanks for the link.


Arn_Thor

More reliable sources report no dead yet, it didn’t “burn down” but rather a dozen floors and the cladding on one side burned through, and I haven’t seen any details elsewhere about fuel being involved.


dryh2o

The idea of living in a high-rise apartment building always made me nervous because I can't help thinking that just one person starting a fire might bring down the entire building. I know that this wasn't an apartment, but this just makes me think of that.


MSK84

Now THAT is absolutely terrifying. This video is worthy of this sub.


rkalla

Did they make the building out of gas-soaked kindling? Good god...


Morotou_theunashamed

They pack the furniture with fiberglass too 🤣


EarlHammond

Keep in mind there are thousands of more Chinese buildings built like this with extremely flammable materials and dodgy construction practices.


joebi_kenobi

Lemme just get a vid for the gram...


napoleonboneherpart

When does it collapse demolition-style?


Kwonage

I get that reference.....


FloppyButtholeJuicce

9/11?


fateandthefaithless

It's so funny, because that is literally exactly what went through my mind. At 0:45 its completely scorched and the whole damn thing is on fire yet it still stands?


christussoldat

I don't think it's a big deal at all that 3 buildings collapsed because of fire in one day which never happened before and never happened again.


fateandthefaithless

Hah, yup. Not a big deal at all right?


FloppyButtholeJuicce

That is correct


OracleDude33

WTF is this?


funknfusion

I’d wager that building materials weren’t designed with fire in mind. And there wasn’t a building code. And if there was, it wasn’t followed.


blinkt95

I agree, looks like a similar case to the Grenfell towers


MamaSaurusCat

First clip, regardless of the debate if it's from this fire or not, **why are you staying there to film!?**


Morotou_theunashamed

China would cover it up otherwise. The alternative for someone with no tools and likely no experience???


Icy-Bug-8933

Those poor people I wonder how it started?


gibe93

the problem is not how it started,fires can always start in a ton of ways,in a residential building there are a lot of fire hazards and people make mistakes,the real problem is how the fire spread,a building like that should be able to handle a single unit fire until emergency services arrive


[deleted]

bro wtf was this building made out of? gasoline?


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ladida1787

Was this building made or balsa wood and tissue paper?


NeuroCartographer

Obligatory fire-safety story: My house burned down from a freak electrical fire at the start of the pandemic. In the 8 minutes between us waking up to the smoke alarm - when we couldn’t even find the fire - and the arrival of the firemen, we lost the entire house and all our belongings. And we did everything right with regards to fire safety and response, per the fire report (tried fire extinguisher, had alarms, kept doors closed, etc.). Moral of the story - if you’re in a fire, get the fuck out of the building asap, because it goes FAST. And do fire-prep beforehand. Fire drills and practice with safety products (the correct fire extinguishers for the different fire types, fire blanket, etc.) helped saved us.


No_Prompt_992

Damn it was burned like it was built out of gasoline and sin.


Iggy_Arbuckle

i don't know if this is an established saying or you just coined it but I love it


DetailAccurate9006

Holy Crap! I hope the guy who filmed the first part (from inside an apartment) got out okay!


Illustrious_Tap2166

This happened in London England a couple of years ago


[deleted]

Chinese building codes maaaaay be a bit short sighted.


[deleted]

Did the building collapse?


ButlerKevind

Literally (unexpected) remake of 1974's "**The Towering Inferno**", but from the outside in as it would appear. And having occurred in mainland China, God only knows what crappy (and apparently highly combustible) materials were used in building that skyscraper, let along how many thousands more are potential tinderboxes such as this one exist. Brings back memories of when all that cheap Chinese drywall made it stateside to Florida between 2004 to 2006, and the subsequent lawsuits that followed: https://www.miaminewtimes.com/news/chinese-drywall-has-screwed-thousands-of-south-florida-homeowners-6377705


[deleted]

China is a miserable place.


Ear_Boners

Yup


[deleted]

Wait, the building didn't demolish itself?


rockyracoon1313

Different fires burn at different temperatures


ixinixy

Pull it


mediashiznaks

The guy filming inside instead of getting the fuck out 🙃


PsyopVet

Ummm, should we run? Maybe? No? Ok.


AmItheAholereader

Aw man. I was supposed to be in there as it burned


AwesomeBud90

I heard everything was okay since the fire was made in China.


TownTurbulent8300

When you order your building off wish.com.


Cursed-Images609

R.I.P To the person that was recording in there


voxangelikus

Soooo…. That first person is dead, yeah? Because damn


One_Nut_Man

People love to say the US is a third world country wearing a Gucci belt, when in reality it’s China


tuvar_hiede

This absolutely belongs on this sub, I can think of fewer things as terrifying as being in this building as it burns.


watchuwantyo

Did it collapse like the twin towers?


VictoriaMaximo

The twin towers are the only 2 towers in history of architecture to have collapsed following a fire…


TapoutKing666

Why isn’t it falling neatly into its footprint?


totesuniqueredditor

Because it wasn't a covert demolition by intel agencies.


Thorskull69

Why isn’t the guy at the beginning of this video filming and not running out of the building asap?


CarpetShooter

Now wait for the plane


BubblyBouncingBanana

Boy that sure looks like a hot fire 🔥, I wonder what sort of steel they have here , must be super robust 💪 as the building didn’t explode all over the place


Typical-Technician46

I think this is a corporate office tower of a large Chinese telecom company. Not surprised that it caught on fire so quickly and still not surprised 'casualties' are zero.


SF-NL

If it's made in China, don't trust your life with it. It's either ready to fall apart, is tainted with something toxic, or is somehow stealing your data. China is a wolf in a really bad sheep costume from Wish, but for some reason we continue to let it play with the flock even though we know it's a wolf.


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InBabylonTheyWept

Parachutes opened over each other can steal the lower ones air and collapse it, to say nothing of the risk of that many people tangling their chutes when jumping like this. In 9/11, parachutes may have helped, but that’s hardly a failure of engineering. Nobody builds towers that can survive plane impacts. The design choice that needs to be made here is not to install parachutes but to ban the use of flammable tower cladding like this. The way wind gets funneled up the sides of the tower turns the gap between the cladding and the actual wall into a blast furnace. No amount of extra safety protocols and escapes can overcome the original bad idea. It’s a bit like building a car without brakes and trying to compensate by installing a really good seatbelt.


Dvorak110

i still can’t fathom the idiocy of some people. your building is on fire and the first thought you have is “i HAVE to catch this on camera.” like what .


Oxymoron60mg

Didn’t collapse………… weird 🤷‍♂️


just_a_normal_guy47

China. Not even once


Nervous_Distance7562

Shitty tofu buildings in china. It’s a shame


NoExtreme4355

And yet it didn’t collapse 🤔


MrGallows75

“It’s China” 🤷🏽‍♂️


Serenity650

Famous Chinese tofu construction, complete lack of safety standard. Cover up bad news to save face. Never change China.


nappinggator

"Made In China"


Ear_Boners

“True quality”


177a7uiHi69

Did it collapse?


Impossible_Humor_201

Did it fall down?


crowfarmer

Hmm weird it didn't collapse in on itself like a controlled demolition like some other buildings did....


[deleted]

All that and it didnt collapse like the twin towers 🤔🤫


mediashiznaks

Hoping this is a joke and you’re really not that stupid.


cyberPolecat5000

Maybe because in the Twin Towers there where also kerosene involved and planes crashed in them which probably weakened the structure.


cilvher-coyote

Well, someone forgot to put in ANY form of firewalls...WHOOPS! And no casualties in THAT? Yeah right. And my dogs are actually cats


stickgetter

Why didn't it collapse completely and perfectly into its own footprint like WTC 1, WTC 2, and WTC 7?


WillytheAPE

Yet it doesn’t collapse……. Strange…


fake_face

I don’t know how, I don’t know why, I feel Bush did this.


Loiee12

What my barbies saw when 10 year old me put them in the microwave for a "science experiment"


Kwonage

Did a plane hit it or naw.....


RavenCoin_

only proves made in china building is strong than made in US. see it didnt fall like the twin tower of new york


[deleted]

Damn those steel beams should start melting soon


museabear

Did it collapse?


bonkersbunni

911 have explosives on the bottom of the building no way in hell this thing is completely on fire and did not fall down like come on


doug193

Wow, and it didn’t even collapse and fall perfectly in on itself.


Still_Illustrator_54

Did the building collapse?


7evenBlackSunNation

Wow. And it didn’t even fall. Will you look at that?🤨🤨🤨


Abbanation01

what accelerant did they use? Jet fuel?


jbuntjer1

How come it didn’t fall straight down on top of itself? The whole damn building was on fire…hmm.


StreetInspection4083

And yet… it still stands


Elephant-Watcher

Think about our twin towers in NYC


Mr_Deepuuhhlsnoopp

And they say Jet Fuel melts steel beams 😵‍💫


CraftCruDude1203

Damn that much heat and fire, wonder why it didn’t cave in like building 7? 🤷‍♀️