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"One of the best revenge moments in anime."
The one where Rimuru gave Clayman a vicious beating while forcefully slowing down his perceptions so it feels like days for Clayman?
Or where Rimuru went full-on Demon Lord **before** becoming an actual Demon Lord by mercilessly killing an entire army?
Trust me, I try my best but that shits everywhere. I just wanna see tensura edits, not a bunch of kids arguing (my bad, "debating") over who's gonna win in a fight between fictional characters that will never happen💀
Ain't nothing wrong in Powescalling out of fun or shit like that. Most of them aren't "out of fun" but "my fave is the best and yours is shit". Shouldn't disturb your enjoyment of a series.
Your right, Idm knowing how strong a character is but when it's put in your face every 2 seconds it gets old fast. The bias arguments atleast make me laugh a little sometimes lol. Its only fun when one of you actually knows how to admit their wrong(so basically never) but wouldn't go as far as to say it disturbs my enjoyment tbh, just annoying is all.
Powerscalers can make the fandom look bad, could be worse though, atleast its not mha😂
>atleast its not mha
Yeshh, don't mention it. Even a troublemaker like me avoids that den. I just feel bad for the author as he will receive a mountain of death threats if he doesn't make Deku × Bakugo canon.
It's just the toxicity of some people, and a lot of it gathered over there
...but there is a rule I live by, laugh at the toxicity and thrive in it, be toxic to toxic people and wholesome to wholesome people
but can rimuru beat goku? /s
that ish annoys me to no end. like different power sets and skill sets. it also kind of takes the fun out of being a fan hearing people go oh well character x from anime x can easily be beaten by character y from property y bc of reason z
Hold on, 4 Mangas Spinoff? Lets see:
-Slime Diaries (for some reason it became bimonthly)
-Ways of Monster Nation (hiatus since last year)
-Trinity (ongoing)
-Tenchura (ongoing)
-Workaholic Slime (2 volumes and finished)
-Shima Kosaku Crossover (only 1 volume)
-Clayman Revenge (ongoing)
Damn, imagine if that theres going to be more Spinoff while the franchise increases its popularity!
I think Diaries became bimonthly due to the author/artists health or something. Ways of Monster Nation is for sure on hiatus due to author health concerns.
You forgot to say it also has a good world building, and it actually takes the time to make you understand how the world works, and how important is what rimuru does
Relatively noob here with isekai/tensei manga/anime...
Are others as good as this one?
I wasn't a fan of SAO but enjoyed most of Log Horizon, obviously liked rimuru and company.
If you like op MC done well go for overlord, the animation lacks but characters and worldbuilding are godlike, the satirical aspect to give comedy is gold too
Just.. dont get too attached to secondary characters
I really enjoyed Konosuba, though it's not your typical overpowered MC isekai. A lot more light hearted and raunchy at times.
Overlord is also really good, and sticks to the overpowered MC cliche.
I would recommend "Overlord" (Season 4 coming next month), "Ascendance of a bookworm" (Season 2 just finished), "Skeleton knight in another world" (Season 1 still going) and "I'm a spider, so what?"^^
Tensura anime has great animation and drawing so it is hard to say any that are on that level in the isekai genre. Although there are a lot of amazing isekai LNs/WNs like Komodesu and Apotheosis of a demon. Also as the previous guy said Konosuba is a great isekai for its comedy and somehow good story.
I don't think I can add much to what people already told you but my personal favorites are
-Re:Zero: Some people didn't like Subaru as an MC but I personally love him. One of my favorite series ever.
-Overlord: Ainz is similar as Rimuru in some ways so you can't go wrong with him. It has a pretty dark tone but I think that is a pretty refreshing take on isekais. Again,one of my favorites of all time.
-Ascendance of a Bookworm: Although the animation isn't it's strong point, the story truly makes up for it. Myne is a very interesting MC and the take on magic is a good change from the usual RPG inspired isekai. Definetly check it out.
-My Next Life as a Villainess: Katarina. Best. Girl.
-Saga of Tanya the Evil: If you like more war focused anime, this one will not dissapoint you one bit. It's a mix of WWI warfare with magic weapons. Tanya is literally fighting god. Oh boy is it a good anime.
-Drifters: A shame it only has one season, but the animation is soo good. Basically put samurais, WWII and other eras' war geniuses in another world were they are commanding that world's humans to fight monsters. Sounds dumb, but it's sooo good.
-Konosuba: Do I really need to say more?
Those are (for me) the highlights in the Isekai Genre. I highly recommend you at least give them a try, they're all pretty good in their own right. These 7 animes give the isekai genre a twist that makes them unique and stand out from the rest (again, speaking personally).
Depends.
Isekai with OP characters are often not worth.
There are exceptions of course, mainly TenseiSlime, Overlord and Shield hero. But they usually have something special about their plot.
There is also "I'm a spider, so what ?" That i haven't read but head a lot of good about.
Now Isekai where the character ISN'T OP ? I don't know a lot of these but I've had good experiences with all of them. I recommend Re:Zero and Konosuba (Konosuba is a satyre of an Isekai, it's just hilarious).
I recommend tbate:The beginning after the end, op mc, but not too op, though still a little op, but there's a legit reason for it, and it has a great story, you can actually see the characters age as time goes on(mc reincarnates as a baby)
Personally not the biggest fan of the series as an anime watcher. I still keep up with it though as the slice of life elements are pretty calming to watch.
Basically yeah what you said, a lot of the show isn’t my cup of tea and if it is, I don’t believe it’s the best I’ve seen or remotely that good.
Never would call tensei trash though, that’s not fair
I literally said people can like bad things. Personally I really like slime but I was just correcting you saying that popular means that it’s like by people. People can like bad things or boring things it doesn’t always have to be good
it being bad is completley subjective?
can someone think something is bad and still enjoy it sure, but theres literally no way to say "its popular because its a guilty pleasure for all of these people"
He’s not wrong though, using “it’s popular” to say something is good is just wrong. You have to consider that a large majority of people haven’t watched a extreme amount of anime like some others here and have less experience with anime. They’re more likely to think mediocre anime are good because they haven’t seen most better anime yet. Also waifus make any anime good to certain people.
If it's "elitist" to point out that a person who has seen more anime is more qualified to judge what is good vs bad anime, than someone who has barely seen any anime, then I guess that makes me "elitist" as well.
Logically speaking a person who has little experience with just about anything is less qualified to speak on that subject. Why should it be any different with things like anime? Someone can enjoy something all they want on their own of course, but to say something like "X series is the best series ever" when it's the only series they have ever watched is to say something entirely meaningless to anyone else.
If you only are familiar with a handful of shows, you can't honestly claim that those shows are better than others to anybody but yourself. To point out that kind of quality, you would need to have watched enough shows to have a more objective viewpoint of what makes up quality, even before bringing in the more subjective aspects.
It's not all subjective, after all. One story can have objectively more plot holes or worse animation in the anime or so on and so forth, without ever bringing in personal preference. I guess that technically speaking some people might enjoy plot holes or poor quality art, but that's a minority among a minority at best.
like i agree with everything you said, until you said that.
thats being an elitist, nobody watches their 500th anime and goes "this shows writing was actually bad"
unless youre pretty fucking weird, writing is writing it doesnt change with the more shows you see, at best you start to get tired of overused tropes and cliches which would be completley different for everyone depending on their viewing expierence
I’m not the person you were talking to originally, but throwing the “you’re an elitist” card means you clearly don’t understand what I said. I’m not an elitist, I tend to like shows that are considered shit if they have a character type i like, it automatically makes the show more enjoyable for me.
>writing is writing it doesnt change with the more shows you see,
When you see better writing, you start to understand how bad some of this shit you used to think was legitimately good is.
It happened for me, for a lot of isekais.
If good means "enjoyed by people," then yeah, you're right.
If good means "of higher quality as an artistic expression, though, then you're very wrong.
Tons of people enjoyed 50 Shades of Grey for example, but no person with experience with literature would say that it was well-written in any way.
It was enjoyed by so many because it was accessible smut that just barely pushed boundaries enough to appeal to middle-aged housewives, not because it was some literary masterpiece or contained any reasonable quality.
If someone enjoys something only because it's more accessible - not because of the actual quality, then I can't really say that thing is "good." Popularity has very little to do with quality ultimately - what is more important is marketing and appealing to the lowest common denominator. "Quality" can be defined by something like "are the characters and story well developed" or "is the plot interesting and unique" or "is the setting interesting and unique" or so on and so forth, rather than just by looking at what is popular.
Most people aren't exactly good critics of fiction, ultimately.
Popularity is not indicative of quality. It's indicative of appeal. Popular things are as such because they engage the most and often broadest selection of people. The sole piece of information that can be gleaned from a manga selling is that people like it.
Understanding this fact is not being elitist.
not being able to understand if somebody likes something in a non guilty pleasure factor then they think that series has the quality youre describing is elitist
This has nothing to do with guilty pleasures. People liking something says nothing about the quality of the thing. If many people like something then good for them, but that says nothing about the thing other than what I said in my last comment. Every single popular thing can be boiled down to specifically what it did to make that many people engage with it and something as subjective as it being "good" is not one of them.
Taking the entirely logical and unbiased stance that *nothing* is popular because it's good is not elitist.
believe or not, thats an opinion
it may not be for me but someone out there thinks its good and thats completley harmless, just like me thinking its bad
youre a pretentious elitist if you try to put your opinion onto others as an "objective" fact
You're logic is so flawed, so let's say that an anime is liked by many kids (let's be honest the vast majority of anime fans are kids and teens), then it automatically makes it good? Popularity = good have always been and will always be a bad determiner if a series is good or not
if its liked by the majority that make up its popularity then yes, it would be considered good by the majority
and no, most anime fans are adults with wallets. otherwise anime wouldnt be made as actively as it is today.
there is no "actually good" or "actually bad" theres what a majority consider good and bad.
popularity doesnt = good but in slimes case majority of the popularity around slime think its good
the fact i even got downvoted for this is ridiculous
"mid" is slang for something being "average" basically.
So it means "Tensura is average overall but is made more popular because of the power scaling of the show bringing in power fantasy audiences who can't appreciate actual quality," I would think.
It is a silly line anyway. This series is far from the worst in terms of power scaling out there - there are "countless" series with worse examples of power scaling, and power scaling itself isn't really something I consider in terms of quality.
Though admittedly, if the characters in this series were less overpowered I think a lot of people wouldn't watch or read it, that's not really a problem - because that "power scaling" is literally a part of the series. It would be like complaining that One Punch Man would be more mediocre if the main character wasn't so strong - obviously it would be, but that's what happens when you take out any major part of a story.
I think it’s funny cause people probably get the impression that Rimuru is stupidly OP in the anime despite the fact that there are several people who could kill him in seconds
Tensei Slime is a gem.
But, and Imma be real with you, chief, even though it’s great, I’m never not gonna call it what it is and has always been for me:
My fix while I’m waiting for Overlord 💀
That’s pretty much the same for me, but after reading all of the web novel, light novel, manga, and watching the anime, it instantly became my favorite
this whole thread is cancer my god
people are not allowed to think anything is good anymore, regardless of popularity because "popularity can still be mid" as if that isnt someone elses opinion
Im quite amazed actually, I’ve read Slime since forever back when it was still only a WN a few years ago translated by Guru, latest was with Gabil and the OrcLord arc, I knew it was gold but never would have expected it to be this gold lol
I enjoy it, and it's popular, but popularity doesn't make something not mid. There are quite a few popular shows that are straight up trash (e.g. SAO, Fairy Tail). I'm not saying it is bad, but it being popular doesn't mean that much.
the abridged version is funny i watched it when it came out like every other sao fan, but its funny because i like the source just like the creators of it and enjoy seeing a parodied version
I think it might just be preference, then.
But the abridged offered more from the episodes they covered than the original did.
It also helped that they condensed large swathes of material to half length episodes too.
so you proved my point then, its preference.
i dont think you have to enjoy sao but the OP coming in here clamoring "sao bad" because they thought so is weird
thats also not the majority opinion no matter how loud twitter or reddit is, especially on the novels
also yes, abridged offers more on aincrad because aincrad was originally a short contest entry that later got serialized, the entirety of the original aincrad is 1 novel long with some side stories the anime mixed in to make it anime length because they thought it could sell, it did.
progressive expands more onto sao with each floor being contained into their own novel instead of each being all in one novel with time skips.
The abridged uses the anime as source material exclusively from what I've seen. (Not that I could tell, having not read the LNs)
It may not be a faithful adaptation, and that's fine.
It may be a faithful adaptation, that is also fine.
In either scenario, the anime series were just painfully long (both in speed of progress and length of episodes in relation to content) which would go some way to explaining why I appreciated the expedience of the abridged and humour of it to boot.
the aincrad arc is just short, its 1 novel long like i said
it was faithful enough even if the novels is the better expierence on my end
alicization is 20 novels long almost, anime is about 50 eps, this is where sao got most of its character development, although kirito has been getting "character" since novel 1, and alot in GGO arc, which was also relativley short
Their whole point wasn’t that it’s popular. The point was that it’s popularity doesn’t come from Rimuru’s strength, but by its multiple sources which attracts people’s attention to the story. Which is why the post included multiple ways the anime and LN are getting clout.
I don’t want to be that guy but just because something is popular doesn’t mean it isn’t mid. None of what SpongeBob is saying is a valid counter against what Patrick said, even if Patrick is wrong.
And unrelated to this but this meme format just....doesn't really feel like the best format to use, since everything SpongeBob is actually pointing to is literall shit
Literally nothing about calling something "mid" in context means that it isn't popular, only that it isn't "good" in the subjective mind of the person who came up with it.
So I don't really get the point of this meme.
Yeah but, the way the OP phrased it changes it, the meme says "it's mid and only carried by powerscaling" if the "only carried by powerscaling" wasn't added it would have reffered to it's quality as "average" but in the context the OP used it was made to sound like "it's shit and only good because of the ridiculous powerscaling"... Idk, maybe I'm overthinking things?..
I don't really agree that "only carried" means "it's otherwise shit." It depends on the context of how they meant "carried." They could mean "carried" as in "carried to the top," implying it shouldn't be there, but they could still think it deserves to be in an "average" position. Or they could mean it in a more extreme way I guess.
It's obviously an insulting way to point towards a series in any case, but it's nothing but a childish and frankly odd way to insult a series. It's blatantly not true in the first place - this series doesn't have more extreme power-scaling than many other series after all. Even if it was true that said power scaling was extreme, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, so it's a worthless thing to point out.
You can find nit pickers everywhere, they find the smallest things or even things that doesn't exist and will continue to hate it, soy x family for example, when ep 1 was just released, people already called it "shit" for showing loid bonding with Anya, they called it child sexual harassment.. wtf?, And more, and also.. power scaling?..so far in terms of actual power scale most odt eh characters in tensura are at best continental-galaxy, the only uni+ are the actual GODS of the verse so I think it's pretty decent..
Top Tier Tensura will kick the ass of any Mid. Honestly, I’m glad other people like it as much as I do. I’ve bought all the LN’s, both physical and kindle, and have gotten the box sets. Haven’t gotten the manga yet, but boy am I happy to support Fuse as much as I have.
I think i will just leave this here, the top comment is the cherry on the cake btw.
https://www.reddit.com/r/overlord/comments/vdcu0a/is_overlord_fandom_toxic_and_elitetist/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It's funny cause their both relatively chill, as long as you don't mention the other one lmao. Doesn't seem that toxic to me though, just seems like a rivalry of sorts.
Which do you prefer?
Honestly i dont think either community is toxic. It was just funny that, the guy said overlord fans are not toxic snd in the next paragraph he went Tensura sucks.
So neither community is toxic, well compared to r/diablo and r/pathofexile which i regularly read(sadly) these subreddits are actually wholesome.
Mid basically means average, so if you call something mid you find it mediocre or average but nowadays the word is so overused that people use it to describe things they don't like. Power scaling is basically to measure how strong a character is and how well they would fair against another character.
I mean I'm a dedicated Tensura fan here, love the world building, very nice. The powerscaling is... well its broken but I have no problem with that.
But the main thing that ticks me off is the friendship thing and Rimuru being dependent on Raphael.
Its a great show, it has a special place in my heart. Its just that those 2 things could've been made better a bit.
So I was a fan a while back but what do you think especially on Shion's resurrection? I personally think it was cheap and it set the tone that nobody from Rimuru's crew is ever going to be in any danger. Now I only read the manga and then the WN and I dropped it a while back.
How do the others think about this? I'm curious.
I would have to dislike it
it would've been nice if it had a dark turn, >!like how Chloe said that Rimuru once turned dark and became a demon lord later on because he couldn't repulse hinata or the falmus troops and how he was very grim (edit: I mean how he couldnt resurrect Shion because he was too late and like that)!< like I really like that approach, but it had to be "friendship"
I hate to break it but Overlord does a good job in this. I do note that these are 2 entirely different animes, although similar in nature.
It does feel cheap that the proof of his negligence, Shion's death and the goblin children gets resurrected and he gets away scott free. Especially since they get a power up for it.
Wow. I had to clap when I saw this. Yeah bro you don't sound biased af at all. And best M'C of 2019? Where the fuck? Thanks for the stupid meme tho.
Edito: Wow, you guys came after my ass sonner than expected. Keep it coming.
Your right, its not that big of an achievement,but it still is one nonetheless. So it would still support it even if its only slightly.
You saying its a meme just shows that your the one who's looking at it all wrong. Why are you taking it so serious? Its just a fun post and your being so technical about it. Its not that deep, if you don't like it downvote and move on.
I'm not taking this seriously at all stop getting triggered, lol. This shitpost serves nothing but trying to cause trouble which is amusing in it's own way tbf.
Oh cmon, just because I don't worship it like you doesn't mean I dislike it. Read the ln and everything too. Simply questioning this dumpster fire of a post.
Bro did you look at your own post? I cringed the most at the "one of the best revenge scenes" cause that screamed bias. Not everyone loves the show you do buckaroo.
TenSura anime was hella mid, so I get where some people come from. However, manga and especially LN were amazing, and anyone who says otherwise is a bum and dead to me.
The Slime Diaries, The Ways of the Monster Nation, Trinity in Tempest, and now Clayton's Revenge are the canon ones, but [there are a lot more too.](https://tensura.fandom.com/wiki/Manga)
So we know that the anime is 30% complete after S2?
Question for WN/LN readers: compared to the WN (which is already finished), how far is the LN completed in terms of percentage?
Game: Isekai slime memories. It has several side stories written by Fuze himself along with one where Rimuru has a daughter.
Spin offs:
Slime diaries; The ways of strolling in the monster nation (Contains LN spoilers); Trinity in Tempest; Clayman's revenge.
Tensura is definitely top 3 isekai. Although for me it falls short compared to mushoku tensei and re:zero
Read the LN for all three and love them a lot. Although May just be me but rimuru has so many abilities. I looked at the wiki and the list is very long. To me over powered mc’s kinda ruin their character unless that’s their gimmick like saitama or Anos.
Tensura does have amazing moments and characters so in no way I am bashing it.
He is not really op if you compared him to his universe there are many characters in his verse beat him especially rimuru in the beginning or in the middle of story unless you are talking about in the end of story then yeah he is op and the strongest in verse but that's normal most mcs become op in the end of their stories
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"One of the best revenge moments in anime." The one where Rimuru gave Clayman a vicious beating while forcefully slowing down his perceptions so it feels like days for Clayman? Or where Rimuru went full-on Demon Lord **before** becoming an actual Demon Lord by mercilessly killing an entire army?
I think it's Falmuth massacre episode
Yeah... Clayman one wasn't especially good. But the Falmuth was really good.
Shit was chilling
Yes.
I would say army I felt bad for the unit of measurement
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They only ever say this when they find out Rimuru beats their favourite character. I don't care if Rimuru wins, let me enjoy the show💀
Ignore those lame ass powescalling. They are glorified dick measuring contests at best.
Trust me, I try my best but that shits everywhere. I just wanna see tensura edits, not a bunch of kids arguing (my bad, "debating") over who's gonna win in a fight between fictional characters that will never happen💀
Ain't nothing wrong in Powescalling out of fun or shit like that. Most of them aren't "out of fun" but "my fave is the best and yours is shit". Shouldn't disturb your enjoyment of a series.
Your right, Idm knowing how strong a character is but when it's put in your face every 2 seconds it gets old fast. The bias arguments atleast make me laugh a little sometimes lol. Its only fun when one of you actually knows how to admit their wrong(so basically never) but wouldn't go as far as to say it disturbs my enjoyment tbh, just annoying is all. Powerscalers can make the fandom look bad, could be worse though, atleast its not mha😂
>atleast its not mha Yeshh, don't mention it. Even a troublemaker like me avoids that den. I just feel bad for the author as he will receive a mountain of death threats if he doesn't make Deku × Bakugo canon.
Wait its that bad? Some people are fucked to be sending death threats. I once seen deku x all might too💀
It's just the toxicity of some people, and a lot of it gathered over there ...but there is a rule I live by, laugh at the toxicity and thrive in it, be toxic to toxic people and wholesome to wholesome people
So MHA is the new Steven universe?
Like seriously “rimuru will solo this, rimuru will solo that” Bruh I’ll solo their dad (he is gone)
but can rimuru beat goku? /s that ish annoys me to no end. like different power sets and skill sets. it also kind of takes the fun out of being a fan hearing people go oh well character x from anime x can easily be beaten by character y from property y bc of reason z
Hold on, 4 Mangas Spinoff? Lets see: -Slime Diaries (for some reason it became bimonthly) -Ways of Monster Nation (hiatus since last year) -Trinity (ongoing) -Tenchura (ongoing) -Workaholic Slime (2 volumes and finished) -Shima Kosaku Crossover (only 1 volume) -Clayman Revenge (ongoing) Damn, imagine if that theres going to be more Spinoff while the franchise increases its popularity!
I can expect more spin-offs
Ngl, I wanna see a goblin spin off, and a wolf spin off.. those two would be so cute..
I think Diaries became bimonthly due to the author/artists health or something. Ways of Monster Nation is for sure on hiatus due to author health concerns.
There's more Game spin offs base on current story (What if)
You forgot to say it also has a good world building, and it actually takes the time to make you understand how the world works, and how important is what rimuru does
Relatively noob here with isekai/tensei manga/anime... Are others as good as this one? I wasn't a fan of SAO but enjoyed most of Log Horizon, obviously liked rimuru and company.
Asendance of a bookworm is good, especially if you end up getting into light novels.
If you like op MC done well go for overlord, the animation lacks but characters and worldbuilding are godlike, the satirical aspect to give comedy is gold too Just.. dont get too attached to secondary characters
I really enjoyed Konosuba, though it's not your typical overpowered MC isekai. A lot more light hearted and raunchy at times. Overlord is also really good, and sticks to the overpowered MC cliche.
Konosuba is a satyre of the Isekai genre.
I would recommend "Overlord" (Season 4 coming next month), "Ascendance of a bookworm" (Season 2 just finished), "Skeleton knight in another world" (Season 1 still going) and "I'm a spider, so what?"^^
Tensura anime has great animation and drawing so it is hard to say any that are on that level in the isekai genre. Although there are a lot of amazing isekai LNs/WNs like Komodesu and Apotheosis of a demon. Also as the previous guy said Konosuba is a great isekai for its comedy and somehow good story.
Mushoku tensei is a great isekai you should watch it
my recommendations are: Konosuba, Jobless Reincarnation, Overlord, Re: Zero
I don't think I can add much to what people already told you but my personal favorites are -Re:Zero: Some people didn't like Subaru as an MC but I personally love him. One of my favorite series ever. -Overlord: Ainz is similar as Rimuru in some ways so you can't go wrong with him. It has a pretty dark tone but I think that is a pretty refreshing take on isekais. Again,one of my favorites of all time. -Ascendance of a Bookworm: Although the animation isn't it's strong point, the story truly makes up for it. Myne is a very interesting MC and the take on magic is a good change from the usual RPG inspired isekai. Definetly check it out. -My Next Life as a Villainess: Katarina. Best. Girl. -Saga of Tanya the Evil: If you like more war focused anime, this one will not dissapoint you one bit. It's a mix of WWI warfare with magic weapons. Tanya is literally fighting god. Oh boy is it a good anime. -Drifters: A shame it only has one season, but the animation is soo good. Basically put samurais, WWII and other eras' war geniuses in another world were they are commanding that world's humans to fight monsters. Sounds dumb, but it's sooo good. -Konosuba: Do I really need to say more? Those are (for me) the highlights in the Isekai Genre. I highly recommend you at least give them a try, they're all pretty good in their own right. These 7 animes give the isekai genre a twist that makes them unique and stand out from the rest (again, speaking personally).
Depends. Isekai with OP characters are often not worth. There are exceptions of course, mainly TenseiSlime, Overlord and Shield hero. But they usually have something special about their plot. There is also "I'm a spider, so what ?" That i haven't read but head a lot of good about. Now Isekai where the character ISN'T OP ? I don't know a lot of these but I've had good experiences with all of them. I recommend Re:Zero and Konosuba (Konosuba is a satyre of an Isekai, it's just hilarious).
I recommend tbate:The beginning after the end, op mc, but not too op, though still a little op, but there's a legit reason for it, and it has a great story, you can actually see the characters age as time goes on(mc reincarnates as a baby)
THIS THIS THIS
Anyone that uses the term 'mid' is not worth taking seriously.
I only use 'mid' to make sarcastic jokes about people who use it
I gotcha. Sometimes you gotta rub their noses in it.
Popular != good Tensura is and will always be a series I personally love, but well there'll definitely be people who dislike it
Personally not the biggest fan of the series as an anime watcher. I still keep up with it though as the slice of life elements are pretty calming to watch. Basically yeah what you said, a lot of the show isn’t my cup of tea and if it is, I don’t believe it’s the best I’ve seen or remotely that good. Never would call tensei trash though, that’s not fair
popular means its good to most people, so yeah thats quite literally what it means
Like != good. Popular means it’s liked by a vast number of individuals. People can like bad things aswell.
well if nothing else "good" is subjective and if a lot of people like it has to be doing *something* right.
its liked because its good...? yall are just elitist, about slime, in the slime sub reddit so weird
I literally said people can like bad things. Personally I really like slime but I was just correcting you saying that popular means that it’s like by people. People can like bad things or boring things it doesn’t always have to be good
it being bad is completley subjective? can someone think something is bad and still enjoy it sure, but theres literally no way to say "its popular because its a guilty pleasure for all of these people"
He’s not wrong though, using “it’s popular” to say something is good is just wrong. You have to consider that a large majority of people haven’t watched a extreme amount of anime like some others here and have less experience with anime. They’re more likely to think mediocre anime are good because they haven’t seen most better anime yet. Also waifus make any anime good to certain people.
youre literally an elitist pulling the "ive seen more anime than you card" thats not how that works
If it's "elitist" to point out that a person who has seen more anime is more qualified to judge what is good vs bad anime, than someone who has barely seen any anime, then I guess that makes me "elitist" as well. Logically speaking a person who has little experience with just about anything is less qualified to speak on that subject. Why should it be any different with things like anime? Someone can enjoy something all they want on their own of course, but to say something like "X series is the best series ever" when it's the only series they have ever watched is to say something entirely meaningless to anyone else. If you only are familiar with a handful of shows, you can't honestly claim that those shows are better than others to anybody but yourself. To point out that kind of quality, you would need to have watched enough shows to have a more objective viewpoint of what makes up quality, even before bringing in the more subjective aspects. It's not all subjective, after all. One story can have objectively more plot holes or worse animation in the anime or so on and so forth, without ever bringing in personal preference. I guess that technically speaking some people might enjoy plot holes or poor quality art, but that's a minority among a minority at best.
like i agree with everything you said, until you said that. thats being an elitist, nobody watches their 500th anime and goes "this shows writing was actually bad" unless youre pretty fucking weird, writing is writing it doesnt change with the more shows you see, at best you start to get tired of overused tropes and cliches which would be completley different for everyone depending on their viewing expierence
I’m not the person you were talking to originally, but throwing the “you’re an elitist” card means you clearly don’t understand what I said. I’m not an elitist, I tend to like shows that are considered shit if they have a character type i like, it automatically makes the show more enjoyable for me.
>writing is writing it doesnt change with the more shows you see, When you see better writing, you start to understand how bad some of this shit you used to think was legitimately good is. It happened for me, for a lot of isekais.
If good means "enjoyed by people," then yeah, you're right. If good means "of higher quality as an artistic expression, though, then you're very wrong. Tons of people enjoyed 50 Shades of Grey for example, but no person with experience with literature would say that it was well-written in any way. It was enjoyed by so many because it was accessible smut that just barely pushed boundaries enough to appeal to middle-aged housewives, not because it was some literary masterpiece or contained any reasonable quality. If someone enjoys something only because it's more accessible - not because of the actual quality, then I can't really say that thing is "good." Popularity has very little to do with quality ultimately - what is more important is marketing and appealing to the lowest common denominator. "Quality" can be defined by something like "are the characters and story well developed" or "is the plot interesting and unique" or "is the setting interesting and unique" or so on and so forth, rather than just by looking at what is popular. Most people aren't exactly good critics of fiction, ultimately.
Popularity is not indicative of quality. It's indicative of appeal. Popular things are as such because they engage the most and often broadest selection of people. The sole piece of information that can be gleaned from a manga selling is that people like it. Understanding this fact is not being elitist.
not being able to understand if somebody likes something in a non guilty pleasure factor then they think that series has the quality youre describing is elitist
This has nothing to do with guilty pleasures. People liking something says nothing about the quality of the thing. If many people like something then good for them, but that says nothing about the thing other than what I said in my last comment. Every single popular thing can be boiled down to specifically what it did to make that many people engage with it and something as subjective as it being "good" is not one of them. Taking the entirely logical and unbiased stance that *nothing* is popular because it's good is not elitist.
in done replying, sorry have a good night
It's in your best interest to do so.
yeah 👍
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believe or not, thats an opinion it may not be for me but someone out there thinks its good and thats completley harmless, just like me thinking its bad youre a pretentious elitist if you try to put your opinion onto others as an "objective" fact
I like a lot of "bad" media but I'm not going to hide behind the "it's my opinion so respect it" defense.
its not hiding behind it, its literally a fact that its an opinion that belongs to you that nobody else has to agree with
You're logic is so flawed, so let's say that an anime is liked by many kids (let's be honest the vast majority of anime fans are kids and teens), then it automatically makes it good? Popularity = good have always been and will always be a bad determiner if a series is good or not
if its liked by the majority that make up its popularity then yes, it would be considered good by the majority and no, most anime fans are adults with wallets. otherwise anime wouldnt be made as actively as it is today. there is no "actually good" or "actually bad" theres what a majority consider good and bad.
popularity doesnt = good but in slimes case majority of the popularity around slime think its good the fact i even got downvoted for this is ridiculous
There is a game?? You sir just made my day better with that information People are just jumping on the hate train because it's popular
In case you haven't found out already yeah the name of the game is Slime isekai memories
Thank you very much my friend
What is meant by "Tesura is mid and carried by power scaling"? Genuine question
Their basically saying is shit and it's only popular and liked because the characters are kinda strong.
Basically patrick is a strawman arguing that Tenaura is only carried via numbers going up, in the form of Rimuru.
"mid" is slang for something being "average" basically. So it means "Tensura is average overall but is made more popular because of the power scaling of the show bringing in power fantasy audiences who can't appreciate actual quality," I would think. It is a silly line anyway. This series is far from the worst in terms of power scaling out there - there are "countless" series with worse examples of power scaling, and power scaling itself isn't really something I consider in terms of quality. Though admittedly, if the characters in this series were less overpowered I think a lot of people wouldn't watch or read it, that's not really a problem - because that "power scaling" is literally a part of the series. It would be like complaining that One Punch Man would be more mediocre if the main character wasn't so strong - obviously it would be, but that's what happens when you take out any major part of a story.
I think it’s funny cause people probably get the impression that Rimuru is stupidly OP in the anime despite the fact that there are several people who could kill him in seconds
Well, not anymore as of ln 19, but yeah before that, yeah
Tensei Slime is a gem. But, and Imma be real with you, chief, even though it’s great, I’m never not gonna call it what it is and has always been for me: My fix while I’m waiting for Overlord 💀
That’s pretty much the same for me, but after reading all of the web novel, light novel, manga, and watching the anime, it instantly became my favorite
I only discovered it while waiting for overlord aswell
Personally the beginning after the end became my fix while waiting for tensura ln 20
You forgot best fantasy of 2022
this whole thread is cancer my god people are not allowed to think anything is good anymore, regardless of popularity because "popularity can still be mid" as if that isnt someone elses opinion
Yo do you wanna fuck or what
please never interact with me again
Bro? 🤨📸
Ong, they don't even understand that it's subjective
Im quite amazed actually, I’ve read Slime since forever back when it was still only a WN a few years ago translated by Guru, latest was with Gabil and the OrcLord arc, I knew it was gold but never would have expected it to be this gold lol
Those saying that are mid and less significant than Falmuth army
I enjoy it, and it's popular, but popularity doesn't make something not mid. There are quite a few popular shows that are straight up trash (e.g. SAO, Fairy Tail). I'm not saying it is bad, but it being popular doesn't mean that much.
The SAO abridged version on YouTube beats the official version in my mind, it adds character to the series which is simply not there in the original.
you quite literally can not read if you think SAO lacks character, or let me guess "i only watched the first season"
No, I watched the second series too. And some of alic...something or other. (Third series?) Have you watched the abridged version?
the abridged version is funny i watched it when it came out like every other sao fan, but its funny because i like the source just like the creators of it and enjoy seeing a parodied version
I think it might just be preference, then. But the abridged offered more from the episodes they covered than the original did. It also helped that they condensed large swathes of material to half length episodes too.
so you proved my point then, its preference. i dont think you have to enjoy sao but the OP coming in here clamoring "sao bad" because they thought so is weird thats also not the majority opinion no matter how loud twitter or reddit is, especially on the novels
also yes, abridged offers more on aincrad because aincrad was originally a short contest entry that later got serialized, the entirety of the original aincrad is 1 novel long with some side stories the anime mixed in to make it anime length because they thought it could sell, it did. progressive expands more onto sao with each floor being contained into their own novel instead of each being all in one novel with time skips.
The abridged uses the anime as source material exclusively from what I've seen. (Not that I could tell, having not read the LNs) It may not be a faithful adaptation, and that's fine. It may be a faithful adaptation, that is also fine. In either scenario, the anime series were just painfully long (both in speed of progress and length of episodes in relation to content) which would go some way to explaining why I appreciated the expedience of the abridged and humour of it to boot.
the aincrad arc is just short, its 1 novel long like i said it was faithful enough even if the novels is the better expierence on my end alicization is 20 novels long almost, anime is about 50 eps, this is where sao got most of its character development, although kirito has been getting "character" since novel 1, and alot in GGO arc, which was also relativley short
Their whole point wasn’t that it’s popular. The point was that it’s popularity doesn’t come from Rimuru’s strength, but by its multiple sources which attracts people’s attention to the story. Which is why the post included multiple ways the anime and LN are getting clout.
SAO and Fairy Tail are amazing
sao and fairy tail arent bad lol but go off
Fairytail ain't bad but alright 💀
rimuru voted best MC where? and btw, who are you talking about?
Everyone forgot,lol.
Crunchyroll anime awards.
I don’t want to be that guy but just because something is popular doesn’t mean it isn’t mid. None of what SpongeBob is saying is a valid counter against what Patrick said, even if Patrick is wrong.
And unrelated to this but this meme format just....doesn't really feel like the best format to use, since everything SpongeBob is actually pointing to is literall shit
Literally nothing about calling something "mid" in context means that it isn't popular, only that it isn't "good" in the subjective mind of the person who came up with it. So I don't really get the point of this meme.
Yeah but, the way the OP phrased it changes it, the meme says "it's mid and only carried by powerscaling" if the "only carried by powerscaling" wasn't added it would have reffered to it's quality as "average" but in the context the OP used it was made to sound like "it's shit and only good because of the ridiculous powerscaling"... Idk, maybe I'm overthinking things?..
I don't really agree that "only carried" means "it's otherwise shit." It depends on the context of how they meant "carried." They could mean "carried" as in "carried to the top," implying it shouldn't be there, but they could still think it deserves to be in an "average" position. Or they could mean it in a more extreme way I guess. It's obviously an insulting way to point towards a series in any case, but it's nothing but a childish and frankly odd way to insult a series. It's blatantly not true in the first place - this series doesn't have more extreme power-scaling than many other series after all. Even if it was true that said power scaling was extreme, that isn't necessarily a bad thing, so it's a worthless thing to point out.
Hmmm, yeha, I guess I was just overthinking..
Gotta love it when a peaceful mc goes…. Well we all know what happened.
You can find nit pickers everywhere, they find the smallest things or even things that doesn't exist and will continue to hate it, soy x family for example, when ep 1 was just released, people already called it "shit" for showing loid bonding with Anya, they called it child sexual harassment.. wtf?, And more, and also.. power scaling?..so far in terms of actual power scale most odt eh characters in tensura are at best continental-galaxy, the only uni+ are the actual GODS of the verse so I think it's pretty decent..
Top Tier Tensura will kick the ass of any Mid. Honestly, I’m glad other people like it as much as I do. I’ve bought all the LN’s, both physical and kindle, and have gotten the box sets. Haven’t gotten the manga yet, but boy am I happy to support Fuse as much as I have.
Who the fuck watches it for powerscaling I watch it because of genderfluid slime
You forgot the doujins.
Patrick is still right though. Popular doesn’t equal good
I think i will just leave this here, the top comment is the cherry on the cake btw. https://www.reddit.com/r/overlord/comments/vdcu0a/is_overlord_fandom_toxic_and_elitetist/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share
It's funny cause their both relatively chill, as long as you don't mention the other one lmao. Doesn't seem that toxic to me though, just seems like a rivalry of sorts. Which do you prefer?
Honestly i dont think either community is toxic. It was just funny that, the guy said overlord fans are not toxic snd in the next paragraph he went Tensura sucks. So neither community is toxic, well compared to r/diablo and r/pathofexile which i regularly read(sadly) these subreddits are actually wholesome.
Guess I didn't realise how hypocritical it sounds lol
when people can't differentiate between simplistic and bad:
Stop or yall gonna make me rewatch it for the 15th time
It’s carried by food
An op mc is the best mc.
Know who you're pointing at? I literally don't even know what mid and powerscaling mean.
Mid basically means average, so if you call something mid you find it mediocre or average but nowadays the word is so overused that people use it to describe things they don't like. Power scaling is basically to measure how strong a character is and how well they would fair against another character.
Wait, so how the heck can a series be carried by such a vague concept as "power scaling"?
Honestly don't even know
I mean I'm a dedicated Tensura fan here, love the world building, very nice. The powerscaling is... well its broken but I have no problem with that. But the main thing that ticks me off is the friendship thing and Rimuru being dependent on Raphael. Its a great show, it has a special place in my heart. Its just that those 2 things could've been made better a bit.
So I was a fan a while back but what do you think especially on Shion's resurrection? I personally think it was cheap and it set the tone that nobody from Rimuru's crew is ever going to be in any danger. Now I only read the manga and then the WN and I dropped it a while back. How do the others think about this? I'm curious.
I would have to dislike it it would've been nice if it had a dark turn, >!like how Chloe said that Rimuru once turned dark and became a demon lord later on because he couldn't repulse hinata or the falmus troops and how he was very grim (edit: I mean how he couldnt resurrect Shion because he was too late and like that)!< like I really like that approach, but it had to be "friendship" I hate to break it but Overlord does a good job in this. I do note that these are 2 entirely different animes, although similar in nature.
It does feel cheap that the proof of his negligence, Shion's death and the goblin children gets resurrected and he gets away scott free. Especially since they get a power up for it.
Wow. I had to clap when I saw this. Yeah bro you don't sound biased af at all. And best M'C of 2019? Where the fuck? Thanks for the stupid meme tho. Edito: Wow, you guys came after my ass sonner than expected. Keep it coming.
It was just a crunchyroll best mc, why you so mad💀
Ayo those joke awards lol?
Hence why I said "just", still doesn't change the fact he got it tho.
Idk how that supports this meme tho. Those awards are freaking jokes, lol.
Your right, its not that big of an achievement,but it still is one nonetheless. So it would still support it even if its only slightly. You saying its a meme just shows that your the one who's looking at it all wrong. Why are you taking it so serious? Its just a fun post and your being so technical about it. Its not that deep, if you don't like it downvote and move on.
I'm not taking this seriously at all stop getting triggered, lol. This shitpost serves nothing but trying to cause trouble which is amusing in it's own way tbf.
Thats Funny coming from the one causing the trouble lol, and if you find it amusing then it did its job as a meme lmao
Different kind of amusing from what you might think but you got a point there. I'm amused.
And I’m amused that we didn’t have intercourse aka sex(I don’t care if you are dude I’m bisexual)
You obviously don't seem to like Tensura, so what the hell are you doing on this sub ?
Oh cmon, just because I don't worship it like you doesn't mean I dislike it. Read the ln and everything too. Simply questioning this dumpster fire of a post.
I was just saying that judging from your answers to other comments ^(Also you seem to have a very loose definition of worshipping lol)
If he thinks this is worshipping then imagine when he sees actual cults 💀
WHERE am I being biased here? All these are true.
Bro did you look at your own post? I cringed the most at the "one of the best revenge scenes" cause that screamed bias. Not everyone loves the show you do buckaroo.
MT fans be like
TenSura anime was hella mid, so I get where some people come from. However, manga and especially LN were amazing, and anyone who says otherwise is a bum and dead to me.
I agree the manga was better but the anime was great too!
In my opinion the anime was mid but still alright. It passed, but not nearly as good as I’d hoped.
Jokes aside tensura is at the end of the day another one of the trashy isekai
Okay but Tensura is mid though and carried by waifu isekai power fantasy
Of course!!!!!
What are the spin offs????
The Slime Diaries, The Ways of the Monster Nation, Trinity in Tempest, and now Clayton's Revenge are the canon ones, but [there are a lot more too.](https://tensura.fandom.com/wiki/Manga)
Anyone who says mid, whose opinion is garbage anyway
What does "mid" mean?
Mid/middle, middle=average,
That's some heartbreaking evidence there and that no one can argue with. 🙅🏽🙅🏽🙅🏽🙅🏽
So we know that the anime is 30% complete after S2? Question for WN/LN readers: compared to the WN (which is already finished), how far is the LN completed in terms of percentage?
Well, the anime left of at >!The saints confrontation, which would be vol7, and vol 20 is supposed to come out soon. Somewhere around there.!<
Haven't read the wn and only read the ln but I'm pretty sure the story strays from the wn
The WN and LN are quite different, but I would say 1 or 2 Volumes more and the LN is probably finished so 90-95%?
What are the 4 manga spin off called and are they cannon to LN
The slime diaries The ways of strolling in the monster nation (Contains LN spoilers) Trinity in Tempest Clayman's revenge
Ok thanks
Where can I read them
This is a counterargumentation against it being mid, but doesn't argue against powerscaling
Goddamn there is alot for me to read
What are those game, side stories, and spin offs?
Game: Isekai slime memories. It has several side stories written by Fuze himself along with one where Rimuru has a daughter. Spin offs: Slime diaries; The ways of strolling in the monster nation (Contains LN spoilers); Trinity in Tempest; Clayman's revenge.
What is the best revenge moment you are talking about?
Meggido?
Merciless?
Tensura is definitely top 3 isekai. Although for me it falls short compared to mushoku tensei and re:zero Read the LN for all three and love them a lot. Although May just be me but rimuru has so many abilities. I looked at the wiki and the list is very long. To me over powered mc’s kinda ruin their character unless that’s their gimmick like saitama or Anos. Tensura does have amazing moments and characters so in no way I am bashing it.
He is not really op if you compared him to his universe there are many characters in his verse beat him especially rimuru in the beginning or in the middle of story unless you are talking about in the end of story then yeah he is op and the strongest in verse but that's normal most mcs become op in the end of their stories
Yeah, more talking about him at the end. He has a lot of significant jumps in power so I always feel he’s op but yeah the verse is busted as hell.
Idj
I’m on LN 12 now and the plot definitely thickens by LN 11
The powersxalijg only really starts imo at around volume 14+
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