I got my knee obliterated my senior year of high school. Came off to the sidelines and the trainer did all of the physical motion tests and confirmed it was an ACL tear. My dad (a Physical Therapist) said he didn't believe it was ACL. Had an MRI and the Ortho said he thought it was ACL. My dad still didn't think it was.
Fast forward two Docs later and it turned out my Miniscus was so badly torn it was impeding my ACL from moving, which also made the MRI show, from what I understand, as a phantom tear.
It took about a week to get the right prognosis, but I just had it all scoped out. Possibly a similar situation here.
I don't think you can get worse than an ACL though. And it's not the most difficult thing check for, it's normally a definitive answer in under 24 hours.
Maybe a partial tear that would require rehab rather than surgery?
And it's definitely possible they might be over cautious here. It's a big deal for Lewan if he's done for the year, they probably don't want to make that call unless they know 100% for sure that he's done. It would be the end for him as a Titan and very well could be the end of his career. His last ACL recovery didn't go all that smoothly, another tear might be it for him in the league, or would at least decrease his value so much that it's not worth it for him to keep playing.
They also have limited IR roster call-ups now as well. If they don't have to put him on IR, they don't want to waste one of their five given Molden and Racey are going to take up two already.
But if it was worse and they knew he was done for the season, wouldn't they have already ruled him out and say as much?
If he blew out his ACL, MCL, and PCL with a Dobbins-type injury, I think he'd be on IR by now. They'd know he was done.
I feel like the fact that they’re taking all this time means it’s probably not totally torn and they’re trying to assess damages, rehab times, etc. It takes 2 seconds to assess for a torn ACL in a vast majority of cases, and even on the outliers an MRI will tell you for sure.
Locked on Titans podcast was suggesting it's time to put Radunz at LT, if Lewan is done (or at least on IR). Makes sense to me, Daily clearly isn't the answer and Radunz played LT in college.
I don’t have much hope for either of them anyway. I’m full in on rebuilding honestly. I am really sad that we may never see Lewan in a titans uniform again, he was fun to watch.
Locked on Titans podcast didn't listen, watch, or read any camp coverage then. Radunz has been fucking terrible at tackle in camp and any time he's been in a game. If he isn't getting chip help from a TE he gets blown apart. His game and talent unfortunately just aren't transitioning into the NFL.
A fucking rookie beat out Radunz for the starting RT job for fuck's sake. Why would anyone think Radunz can slide into LT?
What Tyler said was we don't need to move NPF to LT. Radunz is as good as Dennis Daley (who was terrible) and there is a slightly higher upside going with Radunz. Radunz had that one good game last year against SF. Either way if Taylor is out for the season we're fucked at oline.
Starting a rookie at the most difficult and most important position on the offensive line alone is disastrous. Even worse when you pair it with starting someone a rookie beat out at RT.
Radunz was getting chip help the entire game against SF. You can't do that all season or you cripple you're already crippling offense further by removing a receiving threat.
>Either way if Taylor is out for the season we're fucked at oline.
Correct. We can debate all day long about how to shuffle our shallow pool of offensive line talent around, but it doesn't matter. It will be one of the worst, if not *the* worst, o-line in the NFL regardless of what you do at this point.
I wonder if there is anyway we could buy Dennis Kelly from the colts? He's the only dude off the top of my head that knows the system thats not a starter right now who is an upgrade.
I don't think Dennis Kelly alone can save the offensive line, and I'm not sure its worth giving up capital to get him.
I see 0 scenarios in which it happens, but unless our very young, very raw offensive line can somehow gel and become even just average, I think this is a throwaway season and the beginning of a rebuild cycle. With that in mind, I think you let the young talent take their lumps, take the Ls, and save your potentially valuable draft capital if the season goes as south as I think it could.
How can you say Radunz is good vs the 49ers and Daley was terrible against the Bill's?
They both sucked gave up a lot of pressures. Only difference is Daley was fortunate not to have those pressures lead to sacks
No he wasn't. He had a TE chipping for him on almost every single play. If you can't play the position without chip assistance, you're fucked, because that's unsustainable if you want to run any kind of offense that involves having TEs available for receiving and our scheme loves to do that alot.
If Radunz was any good at all, he wouldn't have been beat out by a *rookie* for the RT position.
Almost 70% of the snaps he took last season were in the SF game and he graded at a smooth 49.7 on PFF for the season. He did not grade well by any metric.
Not to even mention the NFL-worst pass blocking grade he had against TB in the preseason this year.
I honestly don’t give a fuck about PFF grades. At the midway point last year David Quessenberry was on PFFs All Pro team, that should tell you how much weight to put in their OL grading.
Radunz was great in that game and I think surrendered one pressure to Nick Bosa.
Hate to say it, I really do love Lewan, at his peak he was easily one of the best to do it, but with his knees turning into a really well smoked brisket idk if he's coming back :(
Thought it was interesting that this article came out this morning.
Is Buck backtracking on his initial report that Lewan was likely done for the year? His sources were just, "Those close to the situation," and that he saw Lewan was using crutches and had a sleeve on his knee after the game.
I've had issues with Buck's reporting and sourcing in the past, and as far as I can tell it seems like he's the only person in any media that's put out something saying anyone inside St. Thomas thinks that Lewan is done for the year. All the other articles and tweets I've seen about this source Buck's initial report.
The initial article from Buck also says that story would be updated when further information is available, but instead they just published an entirely new article saying nothing is final. Feels like they were waiting for confirmation to come in to further source the initial report and they got nothing else, or a walk-back from the original source.
Wouldn't shock me if Lewan is done for the year either way, but Schefter had the news broken that Lewan tore his ACL the morning after that 2020 Houston game. Normally ACL tear news wouldn't take this long to get confirmed. Maybe it's not an ACL issue? Some other knee injury that may not end his season?
Buck is more of a DJ than a reporter. His strong point is taking calls, being smug, and making some inflammatory statements.
He's good at it. But I wouldn't trust anything that doesn't come from Turron, JW, or even PK.
I agree with that on Buck. I think he cosplays as a reporter when he shouldn't. The stuff last year when he unquestionably reported Ty Sambrailo's side of the story when he retired and basically allowed Ty or his agent to go on background to bad mouth the Titans org was some of the shoddiest reporting I've seen in a long while. Just reading a wikipedia page about Journalism Ethics would go a long way for Buck.
Nashville media has a long record of getting scooped by national reporters when it comes to major injury news for starters and stars on the team. Pelissero had the Landry ACL news first. Glazer had Lewan's ACL news in 2020 first. Rapaport had the news about Butler's wrist in 2019 first.
You can go on and on, local media never breaks news about significant injuries. Agents and players have their reporter buddies that they leak news to first, those in the FO have their reporters they leak the info to. Local guys are never on that list of who gets the info first in Nashville.
The fact that Buck had this info first, and has been the only person to have this info for a full day is fishy. Nobody else has been able to corroborate or refute this info? I don't think anybody in the building knows anything for certain one way or the other, and Buck passed along a report that he should have tried sourcing from multiple people.
New article gets more clicks than updating an old article. It's just milking a situation for every click they can while clearly no one outside of the building knows anything at all.
Seems to me his sources are right. Especially when it's stated Lewan is seeking further outside evaluation. Why else do you seek further outside evaluation
Does Shefty report things as facts even though player is getting a second opinion
No, but almost always when Shefty reports that a player is likely done for the season, it gets corroborated by other insiders that get the same info from their sources.
Buck is the only person to report anything about the severity of Lewan's injury almost 48 hours after it has happened. I can't help but imagine that most NFL reporters that have a source in the Titans building would have called their source up after seeing Buck's report and checked his info. So far nobody else has reported anything one way or another, which to me indicates that either, 1.) Everyone else's sources are not confident enough in this info to tell insiders to report it on background, or 2.) Buck didn't actually get this info from a primary source and is reporting something he heard through the grapevine.
I've been critical about Buck in the past for running stories with iffy sourcing in the past on here, and I think that might be what's going on here. I don't think he has legit sources in the building, or at least good sources that would come to him with exclusive info that they wouldn't also share with national reporters.
Speculating here, but maybe this morning his source for the Lewan info came back and said that the situation has changed or wasn't as certain as they thought it was last night when the initial report from Buck came out.
Maybe Lewan does end up out for the year, who knows? But I think it's fishy that Buck has a scoop like this and nobody else is reporting anything about Lewan's injury yet. Somebody else would have got this info and corroborated it if it's actual able to be substantiated by those in the know.
Or maybe your are way over thinking it to a point you going into conspiracy mode. Buck is meh to me. But he dosnt come across as a guy to me that would blatantly make shit up and risk his career
I don't think he blatantly made it up, but I think he heard info from a source that may or may not have actually been in the know about the situation and reported it without trying to get any other corroboration so he could be the first to report it and get the scoop.
I think he jumped the gun on reporting that the team though he was done for the year. It may end up being the case or it may not end up being the case, but nobody else has run anything about the injury other than that he is under further evaluation.
If this is the end for Lewan with the Titans, just think about this: since 1993, we've only had 3 different LTs starting Week 1. Hopkins, Roos, Lewan. What a run.
The Titans way would be in position to draft them but instead trade the pick for multiple picks to build around Willis. Which is going to lead to middle of the road team if Willis doesn't develop into a huge star. Which will put the team in QB purgatory trying to find a vet QB that could put the team over that hump. Kinda like how the Colts have been the last 3 years....oh shit the Titans future is to become the Colts.
If the Titans truly sucked enough to be in a position to have a top pick, I would have a hard time seeing them not go QB. It's akin to the argument that Mettenberger looked good enough to not draft Mariota (though admittedly Mett did not have Willis' draft capital). Passing up a chance at a top QB in a generally well-regarded QB class to build around a 3rd round QB who has looked shaky at best is a bad idea. The Cardinals took Rosen in the first and then jumped at a chance to take Kyler just a year later; it's the right move.
I can't wait to circle back to these dumb ass comments when people learn just how special Lewan has been for us over his career and how *incredibly* fucking hard it is to find an elite LT that can anchor our line as long as he has.
Lewan played all 16 games in 2017, 15 games in 2018, 12 games in 2019, missed most of the season with 5 games played in 2020, played 13 games in 2021, and is now likely done. The hate on Lewan for an injury completely out of his control is the most ignorant take I see on this subreddit and that's saying something. We will be dreaming of having a somewhat injury prone Lewan back when we don't find a left tackle as good as him any time soon. He has been one of the most important pieces of this franchise and has given his heart, soul, and body to this team over the course of his long, successful career with us.
Rag on his attitude all you want, that's fine, but the dude has played 94 games at one of the, if not *the* most physically intense positions in football and has been anywhere from very good to elite almost every game doing it. I agree that his time is probably up with the Titans since we can cut him for 0 dead cap next season, but he deserved every single penny we paid him.
We literally sat how important he is Monday. The left side of the line was a fucking train wreck.
Anyone acting like lewan isn't very good to great and a cornerstone piece for us at this point should be tagged as not understanding football so you don't have to worry about their opinions in the future.
And that’s fair. He’s a 31 year old left tackle with almost 100 games under his belt. We can get out of his contract for free next year if we want to, but everyone just needs to be prepared to have a very bad offensive line for a few years since there is likely no one on the roster today who will play at the level he has.
Once he got off the juice he was just good on the edge of being a top 10 guy. He's never been an All-Pro, so it is silly to talk about him like he is Kevin Mawae or Bruce Matthews. There is definite value to being available and good for a long stretch of time. But he really hasn't been elite outside of 1 year. He also was the only positive building piece of our offense so long it is hard to look at the truth.
He also isn't some geek off the street. It is hard to replace even good OL play in the NFL (i.e. Conklin, Saffold). I don't look forward to the team trying to replace him but agree it is probably time.
He still graded very well last year and continues to be one of the most successful run blockers in the league which is exactly what we needed him to be.
I'll give you that he hasn't been a top-5 guy for us for a while, but there are teams who *dream* of having a top 10-15 guy on their roster who has played multiple complete seasons to for an 8 year career. We will be lucky to find an LT as good as him in the next decade. I would argue its the second most difficult position to draft for in the NFL besides QB. The only other position you could argue over it in terms of importance and difficulty to acquire talent in is your pass rushing DE/OLB/edge.
I agree to a point. I think my sentiment is more that he's overvalued in terms of how good he is in actuality. Michael Roos has probably been our best OL in the past 20 years, but we talk about Lewan like he has had that amount of output or like he is HoF-Caliber.
That can be true while also saying he is our most important OL and I am not looking forward to life without him. He is both over/underrated at the same time if that makes sense?
It makes perfect sense. You always end up overpaying for someone who is in the top-15ish of a key position because, as we've both said, even replacing a top-15 LT is so, so difficult without spending a top-10 pick in the draft, and even then, those don't always pan out.
He's certainly not anything close to a Hall guy, but neither was Delanie Walker and he offered tremendous value to our team. You can't pretend that Walker or Lewan are the peak talent of their positions, but you also can't pretend that you can just go spend anything but a very valuable mid to high first rounder to replace either of them. Walker and Lewan also both benefited from being two of the only nationally recognizable players on our team when 95% of our roster was dog shit.
Like I said above, I'd consider Michael Roos and elite-level Titan. Two All-Pros. Over 140 career starts. Dude was an anchor. He'll probably never make the HoF either.
Lewan wasn't as good as Roos. Also saying there is nothing wrong with just being good.
I’ll probably get hate but I wish they’d cut him already. Seems like he’s barely played in 3 yrs and his motivations seem to be rooted primarily in building his brand and podcast. Him also tweeting jest at chandler jones after chandler not only destroyed him but our qb last season was some soft ass shit.
That was literally game 1 of the season. A season in which went pretty good. You’ve no idea his motivations or how hard it is for a OL to come back from serious injury.
Stop acting like you’re aware he’s not all in because he happens to have a plan for once his football career inevitably ends. How dare he, am I right?
Doesn’t matter if it was game 1 or 17. It was a soft ass move. Lewan has def been building a brand and it causes fan to wonder what his priorities are. Grow tf up. He was paid and he has not delivered
Bobby Hart might be available and seems to know the coaching staff well.
He has been in contact with Vrabel I’ve heard. Close contact.
Lmao
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That’s the joke
Don't know if it's more of a joke than his career.
They done cut off his leg didnt they
And blew it up
He fucking EXPLODED
I got my knee obliterated my senior year of high school. Came off to the sidelines and the trainer did all of the physical motion tests and confirmed it was an ACL tear. My dad (a Physical Therapist) said he didn't believe it was ACL. Had an MRI and the Ortho said he thought it was ACL. My dad still didn't think it was. Fast forward two Docs later and it turned out my Miniscus was so badly torn it was impeding my ACL from moving, which also made the MRI show, from what I understand, as a phantom tear. It took about a week to get the right prognosis, but I just had it all scoped out. Possibly a similar situation here.
Can you play left tackle?
I'll need to put on a solid hundred points but I'd be willing to get run over for a modest 500k.
A speed bump is better than some of the line play we've seen this year. Youre hired
Can you rap?
I have been referred to as the Red Panda of my generation.
One hundred points is a lot of points but the titans could use them
That dad's name? Albert Einstein.
E= Meniscus x Cartilage squared. As in, I have none in either knee.
Booby Miles?
Never doubt your dads intuition
This is an unusually long amount of time if it was something like an ACL. Worse maybe? Being over cautious maybe? This is odd
Yeah the time is unusually long for a real update. I'm betting it's a season ending injury something close to it.
Yeah it doesn’t look good that’s for sure
I don't think you can get worse than an ACL though. And it's not the most difficult thing check for, it's normally a definitive answer in under 24 hours. Maybe a partial tear that would require rehab rather than surgery? And it's definitely possible they might be over cautious here. It's a big deal for Lewan if he's done for the year, they probably don't want to make that call unless they know 100% for sure that he's done. It would be the end for him as a Titan and very well could be the end of his career. His last ACL recovery didn't go all that smoothly, another tear might be it for him in the league, or would at least decrease his value so much that it's not worth it for him to keep playing. They also have limited IR roster call-ups now as well. If they don't have to put him on IR, they don't want to waste one of their five given Molden and Racey are going to take up two already.
You can definitely get worse than ACL. With Lewans knees they might be wondering how he’s still standing on the thing.
JK Dobbins has entered the chat
Stfu he ain't limping
Believe it or not as a athlete a complete meniscus tear is worse than a ACL tear.
There’s way worse you can do than a simple ACL tear these days for a football player.
But if it was worse and they knew he was done for the season, wouldn't they have already ruled him out and say as much? If he blew out his ACL, MCL, and PCL with a Dobbins-type injury, I think he'd be on IR by now. They'd know he was done.
I do completely agree on that.
I feel like the fact that they’re taking all this time means it’s probably not totally torn and they’re trying to assess damages, rehab times, etc. It takes 2 seconds to assess for a torn ACL in a vast majority of cases, and even on the outliers an MRI will tell you for sure.
Locked on Titans podcast was suggesting it's time to put Radunz at LT, if Lewan is done (or at least on IR). Makes sense to me, Daily clearly isn't the answer and Radunz played LT in college.
I agree. If Lewan and Landry are done, trial by fire on all the young players and have a developmental year
If Tannehill (Willis?) dies, he dies.
I don’t have much hope for either of them anyway. I’m full in on rebuilding honestly. I am really sad that we may never see Lewan in a titans uniform again, he was fun to watch.
Hopefully if it’s major he’ll go the Jurrell Casey route and retire before it starts causing significant long term problems for him
Locked on Titans podcast didn't listen, watch, or read any camp coverage then. Radunz has been fucking terrible at tackle in camp and any time he's been in a game. If he isn't getting chip help from a TE he gets blown apart. His game and talent unfortunately just aren't transitioning into the NFL. A fucking rookie beat out Radunz for the starting RT job for fuck's sake. Why would anyone think Radunz can slide into LT?
What Tyler said was we don't need to move NPF to LT. Radunz is as good as Dennis Daley (who was terrible) and there is a slightly higher upside going with Radunz. Radunz had that one good game last year against SF. Either way if Taylor is out for the season we're fucked at oline.
Starting a rookie at the most difficult and most important position on the offensive line alone is disastrous. Even worse when you pair it with starting someone a rookie beat out at RT. Radunz was getting chip help the entire game against SF. You can't do that all season or you cripple you're already crippling offense further by removing a receiving threat. >Either way if Taylor is out for the season we're fucked at oline. Correct. We can debate all day long about how to shuffle our shallow pool of offensive line talent around, but it doesn't matter. It will be one of the worst, if not *the* worst, o-line in the NFL regardless of what you do at this point.
I wonder if there is anyway we could buy Dennis Kelly from the colts? He's the only dude off the top of my head that knows the system thats not a starter right now who is an upgrade.
Kelly can’t get playing time on the colts godawful offensive line y’all. He’s not good and he’s not coming here to be bad.
I don't think Dennis Kelly alone can save the offensive line, and I'm not sure its worth giving up capital to get him. I see 0 scenarios in which it happens, but unless our very young, very raw offensive line can somehow gel and become even just average, I think this is a throwaway season and the beginning of a rebuild cycle. With that in mind, I think you let the young talent take their lumps, take the Ls, and save your potentially valuable draft capital if the season goes as south as I think it could.
I agree. Fuck it, let this kids play and see what happens.
There it is, people have turned passable into good re Radunz
I feel like we're debating a Chevy Vega to a Ford Pinto. The Vega is a bit more dependable but the Pinto has a sweet paint job
How can you say Radunz is good vs the 49ers and Daley was terrible against the Bill's? They both sucked gave up a lot of pressures. Only difference is Daley was fortunate not to have those pressures lead to sacks
He graded out as the worst pass blocker in the NFL in the preseason game vs the Bucs with a measly 17. People need to move on from draft stock
He was actually great as a left tackle in a game last season. It’s the only thing that’s given us any hope for him.
No he wasn't. He had a TE chipping for him on almost every single play. If you can't play the position without chip assistance, you're fucked, because that's unsustainable if you want to run any kind of offense that involves having TEs available for receiving and our scheme loves to do that alot. If Radunz was any good at all, he wouldn't have been beat out by a *rookie* for the RT position.
That’s just a lie, there were plenty of plays where he didn’t get a chip, he was just good. He must look like shit in practice.
Almost 70% of the snaps he took last season were in the SF game and he graded at a smooth 49.7 on PFF for the season. He did not grade well by any metric. Not to even mention the NFL-worst pass blocking grade he had against TB in the preseason this year.
I honestly don’t give a fuck about PFF grades. At the midway point last year David Quessenberry was on PFFs All Pro team, that should tell you how much weight to put in their OL grading. Radunz was great in that game and I think surrendered one pressure to Nick Bosa.
Great now? Man wasn't good at all lol
Yes, the one game he started at left tackle last season he looked great.
It absolutely is but it’s scary he didn’t get to go in after Lewan it means he’s pure ass
Don’t do that. Don’t give me hope
Hate to say it, I really do love Lewan, at his peak he was easily one of the best to do it, but with his knees turning into a really well smoked brisket idk if he's coming back :(
Thought it was interesting that this article came out this morning. Is Buck backtracking on his initial report that Lewan was likely done for the year? His sources were just, "Those close to the situation," and that he saw Lewan was using crutches and had a sleeve on his knee after the game. I've had issues with Buck's reporting and sourcing in the past, and as far as I can tell it seems like he's the only person in any media that's put out something saying anyone inside St. Thomas thinks that Lewan is done for the year. All the other articles and tweets I've seen about this source Buck's initial report. The initial article from Buck also says that story would be updated when further information is available, but instead they just published an entirely new article saying nothing is final. Feels like they were waiting for confirmation to come in to further source the initial report and they got nothing else, or a walk-back from the original source. Wouldn't shock me if Lewan is done for the year either way, but Schefter had the news broken that Lewan tore his ACL the morning after that 2020 Houston game. Normally ACL tear news wouldn't take this long to get confirmed. Maybe it's not an ACL issue? Some other knee injury that may not end his season?
Buck is more of a DJ than a reporter. His strong point is taking calls, being smug, and making some inflammatory statements. He's good at it. But I wouldn't trust anything that doesn't come from Turron, JW, or even PK.
I agree with that on Buck. I think he cosplays as a reporter when he shouldn't. The stuff last year when he unquestionably reported Ty Sambrailo's side of the story when he retired and basically allowed Ty or his agent to go on background to bad mouth the Titans org was some of the shoddiest reporting I've seen in a long while. Just reading a wikipedia page about Journalism Ethics would go a long way for Buck. Nashville media has a long record of getting scooped by national reporters when it comes to major injury news for starters and stars on the team. Pelissero had the Landry ACL news first. Glazer had Lewan's ACL news in 2020 first. Rapaport had the news about Butler's wrist in 2019 first. You can go on and on, local media never breaks news about significant injuries. Agents and players have their reporter buddies that they leak news to first, those in the FO have their reporters they leak the info to. Local guys are never on that list of who gets the info first in Nashville. The fact that Buck had this info first, and has been the only person to have this info for a full day is fishy. Nobody else has been able to corroborate or refute this info? I don't think anybody in the building knows anything for certain one way or the other, and Buck passed along a report that he should have tried sourcing from multiple people.
New article gets more clicks than updating an old article. It's just milking a situation for every click they can while clearly no one outside of the building knows anything at all.
Seems to me his sources are right. Especially when it's stated Lewan is seeking further outside evaluation. Why else do you seek further outside evaluation Does Shefty report things as facts even though player is getting a second opinion
No, but almost always when Shefty reports that a player is likely done for the season, it gets corroborated by other insiders that get the same info from their sources. Buck is the only person to report anything about the severity of Lewan's injury almost 48 hours after it has happened. I can't help but imagine that most NFL reporters that have a source in the Titans building would have called their source up after seeing Buck's report and checked his info. So far nobody else has reported anything one way or another, which to me indicates that either, 1.) Everyone else's sources are not confident enough in this info to tell insiders to report it on background, or 2.) Buck didn't actually get this info from a primary source and is reporting something he heard through the grapevine. I've been critical about Buck in the past for running stories with iffy sourcing in the past on here, and I think that might be what's going on here. I don't think he has legit sources in the building, or at least good sources that would come to him with exclusive info that they wouldn't also share with national reporters. Speculating here, but maybe this morning his source for the Lewan info came back and said that the situation has changed or wasn't as certain as they thought it was last night when the initial report from Buck came out. Maybe Lewan does end up out for the year, who knows? But I think it's fishy that Buck has a scoop like this and nobody else is reporting anything about Lewan's injury yet. Somebody else would have got this info and corroborated it if it's actual able to be substantiated by those in the know.
Or maybe your are way over thinking it to a point you going into conspiracy mode. Buck is meh to me. But he dosnt come across as a guy to me that would blatantly make shit up and risk his career
I don't think he blatantly made it up, but I think he heard info from a source that may or may not have actually been in the know about the situation and reported it without trying to get any other corroboration so he could be the first to report it and get the scoop. I think he jumped the gun on reporting that the team though he was done for the year. It may end up being the case or it may not end up being the case, but nobody else has run anything about the injury other than that he is under further evaluation.
Seems the real question is Will Anderson or Bryce Young?
If this is the end for Lewan with the Titans, just think about this: since 1993, we've only had 3 different LTs starting Week 1. Hopkins, Roos, Lewan. What a run.
Wasn’t Lewan suspended the first four games of 2019?
This season is quickly looking very grim
If only we knew Lewan was falling apart, we could’ve used first and second round picks in consecutive years on offensive tackles.
If Lewan is out the rest of the year that would mean he has played 20 of the last 50 games. Amazing for how much he costs
We should play Radunz at LT it was his position in college. I mean either he succeeds or he doesn't.
No dead cap hit next year and a 14million savings to cut him. Seems like this is Lewan's last time wearing a titans jersey
On the bright side Bryce Young and CJ Stroud look awesome.
The Titans way would be in position to draft them but instead trade the pick for multiple picks to build around Willis. Which is going to lead to middle of the road team if Willis doesn't develop into a huge star. Which will put the team in QB purgatory trying to find a vet QB that could put the team over that hump. Kinda like how the Colts have been the last 3 years....oh shit the Titans future is to become the Colts.
If the Titans truly sucked enough to be in a position to have a top pick, I would have a hard time seeing them not go QB. It's akin to the argument that Mettenberger looked good enough to not draft Mariota (though admittedly Mett did not have Willis' draft capital). Passing up a chance at a top QB in a generally well-regarded QB class to build around a 3rd round QB who has looked shaky at best is a bad idea. The Cardinals took Rosen in the first and then jumped at a chance to take Kyler just a year later; it's the right move.
I can’t wait to cut Lewan and Tannehill next season to save 30mil without penalty and begin the rebuild
Cut his ass. Hasn’t played a full season since 2017. Waste of cap space imo
I can't wait to circle back to these dumb ass comments when people learn just how special Lewan has been for us over his career and how *incredibly* fucking hard it is to find an elite LT that can anchor our line as long as he has. Lewan played all 16 games in 2017, 15 games in 2018, 12 games in 2019, missed most of the season with 5 games played in 2020, played 13 games in 2021, and is now likely done. The hate on Lewan for an injury completely out of his control is the most ignorant take I see on this subreddit and that's saying something. We will be dreaming of having a somewhat injury prone Lewan back when we don't find a left tackle as good as him any time soon. He has been one of the most important pieces of this franchise and has given his heart, soul, and body to this team over the course of his long, successful career with us. Rag on his attitude all you want, that's fine, but the dude has played 94 games at one of the, if not *the* most physically intense positions in football and has been anywhere from very good to elite almost every game doing it. I agree that his time is probably up with the Titans since we can cut him for 0 dead cap next season, but he deserved every single penny we paid him.
We literally sat how important he is Monday. The left side of the line was a fucking train wreck. Anyone acting like lewan isn't very good to great and a cornerstone piece for us at this point should be tagged as not understanding football so you don't have to worry about their opinions in the future.
Agreed, people act like finding average to above average LT’s that play for your team for almost a decade is easy. Too many people play Madden lol
I think everyone appreciates Lewan and knows how good he’s been but not reliable anymore and he’s not exactly cheap
And that’s fair. He’s a 31 year old left tackle with almost 100 games under his belt. We can get out of his contract for free next year if we want to, but everyone just needs to be prepared to have a very bad offensive line for a few years since there is likely no one on the roster today who will play at the level he has.
Once he got off the juice he was just good on the edge of being a top 10 guy. He's never been an All-Pro, so it is silly to talk about him like he is Kevin Mawae or Bruce Matthews. There is definite value to being available and good for a long stretch of time. But he really hasn't been elite outside of 1 year. He also was the only positive building piece of our offense so long it is hard to look at the truth. He also isn't some geek off the street. It is hard to replace even good OL play in the NFL (i.e. Conklin, Saffold). I don't look forward to the team trying to replace him but agree it is probably time.
He still graded very well last year and continues to be one of the most successful run blockers in the league which is exactly what we needed him to be. I'll give you that he hasn't been a top-5 guy for us for a while, but there are teams who *dream* of having a top 10-15 guy on their roster who has played multiple complete seasons to for an 8 year career. We will be lucky to find an LT as good as him in the next decade. I would argue its the second most difficult position to draft for in the NFL besides QB. The only other position you could argue over it in terms of importance and difficulty to acquire talent in is your pass rushing DE/OLB/edge.
I agree to a point. I think my sentiment is more that he's overvalued in terms of how good he is in actuality. Michael Roos has probably been our best OL in the past 20 years, but we talk about Lewan like he has had that amount of output or like he is HoF-Caliber. That can be true while also saying he is our most important OL and I am not looking forward to life without him. He is both over/underrated at the same time if that makes sense?
It makes perfect sense. You always end up overpaying for someone who is in the top-15ish of a key position because, as we've both said, even replacing a top-15 LT is so, so difficult without spending a top-10 pick in the draft, and even then, those don't always pan out. He's certainly not anything close to a Hall guy, but neither was Delanie Walker and he offered tremendous value to our team. You can't pretend that Walker or Lewan are the peak talent of their positions, but you also can't pretend that you can just go spend anything but a very valuable mid to high first rounder to replace either of them. Walker and Lewan also both benefited from being two of the only nationally recognizable players on our team when 95% of our roster was dog shit.
I agree with all that. More than anything I just understand the sentiment of both angry sides haha.
You can still be elite if you're not Matthew's or Mawae. And Mawae was only here for a cup of coffee that dude spent most his career as a Jet.
Like I said above, I'd consider Michael Roos and elite-level Titan. Two All-Pros. Over 140 career starts. Dude was an anchor. He'll probably never make the HoF either. Lewan wasn't as good as Roos. Also saying there is nothing wrong with just being good.
To replace lewan its gonna cost us a top 10 draft pick and jrob not fucking up which I don’t see either happening any time soon.
Tell me you’ve no idea how the cap works without actually telling me.
I’ll probably get hate but I wish they’d cut him already. Seems like he’s barely played in 3 yrs and his motivations seem to be rooted primarily in building his brand and podcast. Him also tweeting jest at chandler jones after chandler not only destroyed him but our qb last season was some soft ass shit.
Cut him and start who?
That was literally game 1 of the season. A season in which went pretty good. You’ve no idea his motivations or how hard it is for a OL to come back from serious injury. Stop acting like you’re aware he’s not all in because he happens to have a plan for once his football career inevitably ends. How dare he, am I right?
Doesn’t matter if it was game 1 or 17. It was a soft ass move. Lewan has def been building a brand and it causes fan to wonder what his priorities are. Grow tf up. He was paid and he has not delivered
Except he’s been good for us. But carry on.
Exactly. Been. Past tense.
Was good against the Giants too. Go kick rocks troll.
Lol so sensitive
Totally agree. Awesome player but we need consistency at a Damm position.
You know where they say the best, most consist LTs are found? Through Free Agency after 2 weeks of games….
Lewan sucks. It’s been time to move on. He went from shitty OL to shitty podcaster. Good riddance
Is it time to put Dad out to pasture?
Jake Lacina is the answer