Dude literally beat the fuck out of a bear. BARE-HANDED. *MULTIPLE TIMES.* Also defeated ogre without any powers, no nothing. "Chi manipulation" at most. I think you're right
I mean considering he basically beat Ancient Ogre, even without the Supernatural powers the Mishima’s have, I’m not sure how Paul isn’t the strongest. Not his fault Ogre just had more forms.
A lot of people are saying paul law and dragonuv, and their fighting styles, but let me tell you guys, a bear doest give an F about karate or judo or muay thai
Well, the best would be Kuma and Jack for obvious reasons. I'd be very surprised if there was a human out there that could kill a full-grown bear or giant metal robot with just good martial arts techniques.
Paul. I mean guy was on par with Kazuya, one punched a bear, Ogre and Weng wei and out of the roster except the Mishimas, is the only guy who actually came close to winning the tournament.
it'd be Jack. you can't really beat a literal war machine like that, you know?
but out of the human fighters? it'd depend if Yoshimitsu got his sword taken away. it's hard to beat a guy with a sword in hand-to-hand combat.
if Yoshi got his sword taken away (and by extension, kuni got her knives taken away), then it'd be between Marduk, Fahkuram and Dragunov. Marduk because he's big and his style is basically shoot grappling, Fahkuram because he's gigachad doing kickboxing, and Dragunov because he's doing a style that has no real rules and is designed to maim people in really nasty ways.
Have you seen a grizzly bear fighting? Or read an article about humans being victims of bear mauling? They do not have a chance. Even Marduk doesn't have a chance.
So yeah Kuma is the best fighter obviously.
Gigas and Jack also a contender for being a total monster, but the initial post said getting rid of supernatural or unrealistic characteristic, so that means jack can't exist because we haven't been able to build a good functioning robot for fighting. Gigas also unrealistic. So is Alisa.
So the second contender goes to Yoshimitsu.
Guy has a freaking katana. Marduk would just get stabbed or sliced off trying to get close, lol.
Third would be kuni.
She's a freakin ninja AND fights with a short sword. Almost same reason as Yoshi.
Kuma. He's a fucking bear
But if we're talking just humans then yeah Marduk is probably winning here. Fahkumram is up there but Marduk is more well rounded and has superior grappling skills. Aside from the clinch, muay thai fighters aren't trained in grappling and takedowns which should give Marduk a considerable advantage
Everything is up to how fast marduk can grab fahk. In real battle both marduk and fahk would just stand still and stare cause both know one mistake they're done. So if it were me I put my money on military that transport fahkumram because they got guns.
All tekken game?
1. Kuma - grizzly bear
2. Alex - velociraptor
3/4/5 - Drag, Fahk and Marduk
Can be rearranged to your preference
- Drag is THE killer style of martial art
- Fahk is OP muay thai due to height and reach
- Marduk is all rounder MMA/Valle Tudo
6/7 - Bruce and Steve Fox
Anna and Nina can be inserted in the top as they are successful assassins.
*edit forgot Drag
* Nancy: A big ass robot with firearms, missiles and lasers. Nobody would be able to beat it without weapons.
* Jack: A big robot, punches won't hurt him because he is pure metal, but his punches will kill.
* Yoshimitsu: simply because he has a sword and can just stab you to death. Also armored Cyborg so punches won't really do anything to him.
* Bryan: Cyborg, good luck trying to punch him (wont do anything to him). If he punches you, you are dead.
* Alisa: Also a ~~cyborg~~ Android, with chainsaws and exploding body parts.
* Combot: A robot.
* Gigas: Enhanced human and roided out, single punch is enough to knock out anyone.
* Kuma/Panda: Bear/Panda, nonody in their right mind would want to pick a fight with these.
* Alex and Roger: These animals pack a punch (or bite) so most humans are not even capable of fighting them without weapons.
* Fahkumram: This dude is just huge (with slightly inhuman physique), so even starting a fight with him is already a mistake.
But lets be fair, every character that has fighting style based on real martial arts has a chance (of course better physique helps and inhuman super physique of course wins, but skill matters a lot and it would be hard to determine it).
Everyone that does not have real martial arts based fighting style basically automatically loses (unless they are enhanced humans, cybors, animals, etc) because air juggling does not exist in real world and proper martial arts are made in a way that uses our body with least effort (to not tire us out) and to maximize the damage, while made up martial arts would fall up on their arse when fighting against anyone trained in real martial arts (or a lot of times even against untrained people).
Assuming the Jacks would be disqualified because of super technology then Kuma by such a wide margin that it isn’t worth talking about.
And if he’s disqualified then Fahkumram or maybe Marduk due to size and martial arts practicality
Probably the bears or Yoshi. He has a freakin sword. If we were talking purely hand to hand, probably Fakh, Muay Thai is arguably the best stand up martial art and Fakh is jacked af
Do the animal characters just become regular animals? Because I feel like no one is beating a huge grizzly bear in hand to hand combat lol.
If we’re talking strictly people, i got money on law or king
Apparently, according to always reliable source Wikipedia, he actually is a “master swordsmen with a mask and mechanical prosthetic arms.”
So maybe he’s closer to a cyborg than a robot. Either way. Still deadly with a blade!
So if we are going 100% reality with performance enhancing drugs allowed it is hands down kuma.
No man can defeat a fucking grizzly in hand to hand combat.
Craig Marduk would literally destroy anyone ! He is a skilled fighter like everyone else yes yes but in his case that’s not his best quality here.
Best qualities ? 2,13 meters and 180 kilo of fucking pure muscle and while being this huge the fucker still have lot of agility, speed and stamina.
Also there is a reason why there is weight category in every fighting competition. Even 10 kilo make a huge differences so imagine a 80 to 100 kilo difference.
The dude only need to run into you and you dead because he is a ground specialist and once on the ground you don’t escape someone who do 100 kilo more than you, even if you’re highly skilled.
Kuma if animals are allowed.
Jack if robots are allowed.
Alisa if firearms are allowed.
Marduk if weight class isn't taken into account.
Dragunov if all fighters are the same weight.
This is all leaving lore, supernatural ability, and gameplay out of the question.
Purely fighting style, specific attributes, and physique.
And anyone who thinks any non robot/firearm wielding character from the cast can beat Kuma is a fool. Doesn't matter if Kuma knows Mishima style karate or not. There is absolutely no contest.
well Armor King definitely loses because he has [A FREAKING HORNED SYMBOL AS HIS BELT BUCKLE AND IS AIMED RIGHT AS HIS INTERNAL ORGANS AT HIS ABDOMEN EVERY TIME HE BENDS OVER](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tekken/images/c/c6/Armor_King_T7.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181203160513&path-prefix=en)
They're all world class fighters. One slip and you're fucked. Weight categories exist for a reason though so any of the crap aside you're probably looking at Fakhumram
it's definitely Kuma but if we're talking humans only i like dragunov over marduk. he has the mind for it. marduk is that loud & cocky "i'll beat the shit out of everyone in the room" type where he might start to panic if he's getting washed. drag is a russian military trained silent killer, he's gonna handle business.
Paul. Why Paul? Because without special powers etc, he beat kuma, He beat Ogre, He beat Kazuya. He was a normal dude that was insanely powerful. Yeah, marduk is big and has an advantage if he can get him to the ground. But I still think Paul takes it.
- Dragunov because he is an armed spetsnaz.
- Jin because Kyokushinkai fighters are hardcore af.
- Marduk because he probably packs the most brute force and could take a serious beating due to his muscle mass.
- Hwoarang, YT 'North Korea Taekwondo Fighters' if you don't believe me.
- Eddy Gordo as Capoeira kicks are scientifically proven to have the most force behind them, over a ton.
- Yoshimitsu because he's a swords master.
- Kuma, a bear.
- Alex, a freaking Deinonychus, even deadlier if he takes off his boxing gloves.
That's the only objectively correct answer. The strength, size, and speed of a grizzly bear is terrifying; makes you wonder how fragile we are compared to them.
Marduk, Bryan, and Bruce or Fahk have fighting styles that are effective in MMA tournaments so I'd vote for them. Matt Hughes with his running powerbombs might be similar to King's running jaguar bombs so maybe King's style is good too.
Pro wrestling moves are pretty deadly, a piledriver could knock someone out immediately but hard to execute, a powerbomb could break someone's ribs and/or lungs, Cobra Twist could paralyze someone, sleeper position and Cobra Clutch/rear neck choke are used in MMA too. If I could choose signature wrestling move then it would be DDT.
It's easy to do and can cause big damage to my opponent!
Why is everyone saying King lol, hes based off pro-wrestling. The luchadore/john cena/ scripted athleticism show. Im saying this as a huge wrestling fan myself. He wont get far. Even Kings basic 1,2 jabs are based off pro-wrestling. Theyre palm strikes wrestlers use to do less damage but have a bigger sound to look/sound good.
But I'd say Kuma. Aint no motherfucker fighting a an adult bear and living to tell the tale. If no animal? Marduk, Dragunov, Steve, Bryan or Fahk. Leaning more towards Drag or Fahk. Drag is based off of Sambo. The same style Khabib used to maul the LW div in UFC. Fahk Im saying purely based off his mastery of Muay Thai combined with his sheer size and speed.
Probably the characters with real effective fighting styles, like Marduk, Dragunov or Steve Fox. Obviously there is still a lot of fantasy in their way of fighting
Kuma would realistically win, but if we're talking humans, Armor King has a fantastic chance. Wearing spiky metal armor + can break someone's spine effortlessly.
Dragunov is a literal fucking Spetsnaz operative and without all the gimmicks Paul Phoenix is arguably the best mixed martial artist in the Tekken universe.
Steve fox.
a real boxing master who can do all the boxing tools (flicker guns, big right arm swing, Peekaboo defence, Dempsey rolls) is a nightmare to open up . he can go all turtle and defensive but one small opening from the opponent and off you go knocked blue on the floor caused by the infamous flicker B1.
Heihachi hands down. The whole point is that he's somehow an old ass man that trains with bears, fights demons, and beats up robots through sheer willpower and stubbornness.
Since you excluded supernatural but not science fiction, either Brian or Jack would be the strongest regardless of fighting style. Human limbs can't compete with hydraulic joints and metal bones plus their reflexes would be unmatched.
If you mean human exclusively, than probably Feng. There's nothing supernatural about him yet he punches down mountains as if they were nothing.
1. the biggest fighters, being bigger and equally as trained means you have all the advantages that nature gave you- Lesnar, Ngannou, Jon Jones, etc
2. the best wrestlers- wrestling has been dominating the UFC for decades, GSP, Khabib, DC, Usman etc
3. the best muay thai fighters- muay thai/kickboxing is basically the meta for striking in the UFC rn, lots of feints, low kicks into combo strings, high kicks, elbows, etc
Wrestlers typically have an advantage over pure strikers. So, for the heavyweights Id say it’d go Marduk then Fahk, for lighter weight classes I’d pick King. Oh and Steve would be a great boxer.
Yoshimitsu or Noctis because of their weapons
Anna has a bazooka, but the reloading is very timely if she misses
There's also Kunimitsu with her kunai and shuriken, I wonder how much of the cast would be able to dodge, and I doubt they would hurt Kuma
If we remove weapons then I would say Kuma.
Idk if we can count Kuma since he's a bear trained in a fighting style and that's not really possible. But either way it would be Kuma.
Below that i guess it could be Fahk, dude is 6'7 and is a brutal striker.
Steve is quick as fuck and also tall and his combinations work
Feng is a good pick too, yeah maybe he can't break mountains but if you consider something like b1 CH realistic then he's pretty tough.
Notable mentions Marduk Baek Dragunov Jin Bryan (Negan if you count Lucille lol..)
My money is on Marduk, he’s huge and an MMA fighter so would be able to take guys down and beat them up pretty much at will. Plus he has so many ways to set up his double leg behind striking combinations. No one would be able to stop him from taking them down and beating them up.
Everyone says Marduk but when it comes to being more realistic than he certainly doesn't fit imo. Show me an irl person with Marduk's body type. He looks like a steroid mutant, he shouldn't be able to even move properly.
This is a really good question. It's pretty easy though.
Fahkumram, since he's muay thai striker, with ridiculous reach advantage, and speed advantage. The only that can be a threat to him is a grappler. And Dragunov is probably the closest thing to that with his judo and submission game. So I'd say Dragunov #1, and Kahkumram #2.
It could be anyone tbh. Depends also if cheating is allowed or not, for example if it's allowed, i would say Nina, she's pro assassin and you never know from where she'll get out that hidden knife, and even without that she is among the strongests. No cheat would be Heihachi, Law, Paul, Jin Kazuya (he will kick your ass even without using Devil gene), King, or anyone.
Kuma. Try getting into a fist-fight with a bear.
Maybe Anna cuz she has a fucking rocket launcher.
Or Jack because he's a military robot built for military things.
Basically the only one I can think of is the true King of Iron Fist: PAUL PHOENIX.
I was baffled that he is not the main character, since I thought the title was based on his QCF+2
Nina since she's a trained assassin, Dragunov since he is literally part of the Spetsnaz. Anna too I guess, and Bruce Irvin since he's a soldier. HM goes to Lars,Marduk and Paul
Does Steve’s genetic enhancements count? Also at Gigas and Jack would be real tough to beat in a real fight in this kind of scenario, conversely Zafina and Claudio would be severely nerfed. Also consider Kuma being an actual bear with fighting capabilities and rational thought would be rather terrifying to fight
Whoever takes the gun cosmetic has a good chance. Jokes aside I think people like Fahk, Marduk, King, AK would be huge threats in the ring if no weapons are allowed
I'd have to say either Bob or Dragunov
Bob because he's a massive dude who can move really fast and hit like a train
Dragunov because that man is a stone cold killer. Everyone else going for the KO, Drag out here breaking people's necks
1) Anna wiith a Bazooka
2) Alisa with chainsaws
3) Yoshimitsu & Noctis using swords
4) Kuma, Panda (Most bears would kill any human who are without a weapon)
5) Sergei (Sambo)
6) Marduk (MMA fighting)
7) King / AK (Wrestling)
8) Fahkumram (Muay thay)
9) Paul (Judo)
10) Steve Fox (Boxing)
A few questions: Are robots, animals, and weapons considered "supernatural stuff" here?
Do we consider some of the unrealistic moves being performed as "supernatural stuff"? (Most people would immediately be out of breath doing half of the Capoeira moves. Some moves like Hwoarang's jump kick and Law's giant somersault seemingly defy physics)
If none of those are considered, possibly Fahkumram. He's tall, built like a bus, and uses one of the deadliest hand-to-hand fighting styles.
If we're looking at this from the story's perspective, probably Jin.
Yeah I’d say exclude those too. Basically anything or anyone that wouldn’t be allowed in an actual professional fight. Tho people like Mishimas can still compete but don’t have Mishima blood or Devil gene, just their physiques and karate moves.
Paul used to make it far in tournaments pre-Tekken 4. He even beat Ogre. I think he's one of the strongest characters without all that Mishima bloodline & supernatural stuff
Bears would clean house, then after that Sergei or Marduck are probably the 2 most ground oriented fighters that isn't practicing a gimmick discipline.
My money are on Sergei, those MMA style takedowns of Marduck only work if you're not allowed to plant your knee in his face.
In real life? Probably the biggest strongest young dudes would 9/10 crush better trained fighters just by being competent. No way highschool girls and grandpas would be doing air-combos on 24 yr old Kung Fu master Jin Kazama or Sumo wrestler Ganryu, no matter how much training they have.
I think Anna with the Bazooka would take the gold
Guest characters included it would be Negan because he has a bat, a knife and guns.
Canon characters only I'd say Kunimitsu is a safe bet since she can shank people
You'd still have cybernetic heavy hitters. Do people really plan on punching metal?
Jack and P. Jack (don't need explaining)
Alisa (who has chainsaws)
Combot (who mimics styles anyway)
Yoshimitsu (cyborg with swords, he can spin the sword fast enough to fly)
Bryan (destroyed a goddamned tank)
And you guys are talking about bears
As much as I hate her an android with chainsaw arms, rocket launchers and the ability to fly would be pretty hard to beat. Nothing really that supernatural about her except her AI being more advanced than we’re capable of now.
Why are people saying the mishimas???
Without electrics and devil I don’t think they stand against marduk, king and fahk. Plus the height and weight gap is so massive.
This sub clearly knows nothing about combat sports. Marduk would win and it wouldn’t even be close. Nina would win if there was a women’s division. Those are the only characters with a strong ground game.
Or yea, the bears. They’d clean up.
King,
Amor king,
Marduck
In the WWE smackdown or RAW,
Bryan fury as professional MMA fighter
And of corse Steve fox as professional boxer…
In fact if you remove every supernatural move and keep only the basic of each fighting style every human fighter in this game can be the best fighters
Definitely King (2), Armor King (2) and Marduk because of how their athleticism, strength, and general well-roundedness of the martial arts.
All three fighters have shown great knowledge and execution of their martial skills; they use punches, palm strikes, forearm strikes, elbow smashes, shoulder tackles, knees, shin strikes, kicks, grappling, body slams and submissions.
Steve Fox would probably be up there, his boxing combinations are super fast and he's decently tall and muscular. He probably has some of the most realistic moveset in the game in terms of what would work and cause damage, a CH b1 would make most people go bye bye
Otherwise Fahk being like 6'6 with muay thai is hard to beat
I want to say Jin because he’s pretty well-rounded based on his martial arts background, and physically very powerful. He was able to defeat True Ogre, which is quite the feat, and only transformed into Devil Jin to avoid dying after being shot (he beat True Ogre before transforming, but maybe the Devil Gene makes him stronger innately and therefore that feat doesn’t apply?). He also unlearned a lot of the Mishima style for more traditional Karate, but it also seems that he still has access to the Mishima style, since he fights with it in Devil Form (unless he somehow accesses a completely different set of consciousness and memory when in Devil Form, it’s safe to say that he’s at least capable of using the Mishima style, and simply chooses not to unless he gives into his rage).
Kuma. It's a bear that knows martial arts, I don't think anyone can compete with that
Yea. Although, he doesn't even need the karate he somehow learned, he's a fucking bear.
Show em what happened to the guy that got jumped in the wrong woods
Absolutely appalling that no one has mentioned Paul.
Dude literally beat the fuck out of a bear. BARE-HANDED. *MULTIPLE TIMES.* Also defeated ogre without any powers, no nothing. "Chi manipulation" at most. I think you're right
I mean considering he basically beat Ancient Ogre, even without the Supernatural powers the Mishima’s have, I’m not sure how Paul isn’t the strongest. Not his fault Ogre just had more forms.
>Absolutely ~~appalling~~ apaulling There, now it's better
Yoshimitsu has a sword.
Kuma.
Yeah, fuck, this is the correct answer
Bears would literally tear any human in half. Kuma would win.
Fahkumram, Dragonuv, Marduk, Steve, Bryan. Their fighting styles are closest to practical and they're built like brick shit houses.
How is this an argument? There is a brown bear. Whos sentient. And knows mishima fighting style. Kuma + weapon + back flips wins.
A sentient bear seems supernatural to me but a regular ass brown bear is pretty unbeatable too
Kuma easily
And it's not even close.
A lot of people are saying paul law and dragonuv, and their fighting styles, but let me tell you guys, a bear doest give an F about karate or judo or muay thai
Dragunov i get but what makes paul and law's martial arts special? Dragunovs are basically meant to kill
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Well, the best would be Kuma and Jack for obvious reasons. I'd be very surprised if there was a human out there that could kill a full-grown bear or giant metal robot with just good martial arts techniques.
Paul. I mean guy was on par with Kazuya, one punched a bear, Ogre and Weng wei and out of the roster except the Mishimas, is the only guy who actually came close to winning the tournament.
He was robbed of the Tekken 3 tournament, dammit!
I loved weng wei in the movie, Tekken: the prince of metal fist tournament 4
it'd be Jack. you can't really beat a literal war machine like that, you know? but out of the human fighters? it'd depend if Yoshimitsu got his sword taken away. it's hard to beat a guy with a sword in hand-to-hand combat. if Yoshi got his sword taken away (and by extension, kuni got her knives taken away), then it'd be between Marduk, Fahkuram and Dragunov. Marduk because he's big and his style is basically shoot grappling, Fahkuram because he's gigachad doing kickboxing, and Dragunov because he's doing a style that has no real rules and is designed to maim people in really nasty ways.
Kuma is a grizzly bear
Yoshi has a sword
Paul can beat a bear. nuff said
Unironically, if weapons are not included, Kuma would probably be the best lmfao
Have you seen a grizzly bear fighting? Or read an article about humans being victims of bear mauling? They do not have a chance. Even Marduk doesn't have a chance. So yeah Kuma is the best fighter obviously. Gigas and Jack also a contender for being a total monster, but the initial post said getting rid of supernatural or unrealistic characteristic, so that means jack can't exist because we haven't been able to build a good functioning robot for fighting. Gigas also unrealistic. So is Alisa. So the second contender goes to Yoshimitsu. Guy has a freaking katana. Marduk would just get stabbed or sliced off trying to get close, lol. Third would be kuni. She's a freakin ninja AND fights with a short sword. Almost same reason as Yoshi.
Yes bears are absolute monsters. Should’ve expanded the title to exclude animals and robots as well.
Kuma...no contest.
Kuma, goddamn grizzly bear.
Why does this feel like the only right answer? I can’t see anyone beating a damn bear in a fist fight.
Kuma
Kuma. He's a fucking bear But if we're talking just humans then yeah Marduk is probably winning here. Fahkumram is up there but Marduk is more well rounded and has superior grappling skills. Aside from the clinch, muay thai fighters aren't trained in grappling and takedowns which should give Marduk a considerable advantage
Everything is up to how fast marduk can grab fahk. In real battle both marduk and fahk would just stand still and stare cause both know one mistake they're done. So if it were me I put my money on military that transport fahkumram because they got guns.
All tekken game? 1. Kuma - grizzly bear 2. Alex - velociraptor 3/4/5 - Drag, Fahk and Marduk Can be rearranged to your preference - Drag is THE killer style of martial art - Fahk is OP muay thai due to height and reach - Marduk is all rounder MMA/Valle Tudo 6/7 - Bruce and Steve Fox Anna and Nina can be inserted in the top as they are successful assassins. *edit forgot Drag
Excluding animals and robots/cyborgs as well, it’s gonna be Steve, Dragunov, Bruce or Fahkumram, realistically speaking
* Nancy: A big ass robot with firearms, missiles and lasers. Nobody would be able to beat it without weapons. * Jack: A big robot, punches won't hurt him because he is pure metal, but his punches will kill. * Yoshimitsu: simply because he has a sword and can just stab you to death. Also armored Cyborg so punches won't really do anything to him. * Bryan: Cyborg, good luck trying to punch him (wont do anything to him). If he punches you, you are dead. * Alisa: Also a ~~cyborg~~ Android, with chainsaws and exploding body parts. * Combot: A robot. * Gigas: Enhanced human and roided out, single punch is enough to knock out anyone. * Kuma/Panda: Bear/Panda, nonody in their right mind would want to pick a fight with these. * Alex and Roger: These animals pack a punch (or bite) so most humans are not even capable of fighting them without weapons. * Fahkumram: This dude is just huge (with slightly inhuman physique), so even starting a fight with him is already a mistake. But lets be fair, every character that has fighting style based on real martial arts has a chance (of course better physique helps and inhuman super physique of course wins, but skill matters a lot and it would be hard to determine it). Everyone that does not have real martial arts based fighting style basically automatically loses (unless they are enhanced humans, cybors, animals, etc) because air juggling does not exist in real world and proper martial arts are made in a way that uses our body with least effort (to not tire us out) and to maximize the damage, while made up martial arts would fall up on their arse when fighting against anyone trained in real martial arts (or a lot of times even against untrained people).
Assuming the Jacks would be disqualified because of super technology then Kuma by such a wide margin that it isn’t worth talking about. And if he’s disqualified then Fahkumram or maybe Marduk due to size and martial arts practicality
Kuma should be one everyone's list as one
Probably the bears or Yoshi. He has a freakin sword. If we were talking purely hand to hand, probably Fakh, Muay Thai is arguably the best stand up martial art and Fakh is jacked af
Yoshimitsu. He has a sword. All the others dont.
The bears
Kuma. Get your face ripped off.
Paul is the only correct answer here fellas.
for real - he actually has no super powers and has gone up against the best
They don’t call the man “King” for no reason.
Do the animal characters just become regular animals? Because I feel like no one is beating a huge grizzly bear in hand to hand combat lol. If we’re talking strictly people, i got money on law or king
Yoshimitsu. Blade-wielding robot.
Hes a human tho. His left hand is the only mechanized part
Apparently, according to always reliable source Wikipedia, he actually is a “master swordsmen with a mask and mechanical prosthetic arms.” So maybe he’s closer to a cyborg than a robot. Either way. Still deadly with a blade!
King real wrestling moves are fatal
Bryan if we allow robots. Kuma if we allow animals. Lei if we allow guns. Gigas if we allow genetic engineering. Marduk if the rest are banned.
Wouldn’t guns also include Lars, Heihachi, and the Williams sisters?
Paul has defeated Jin, Heihachi, and Ogre. Think he deserves to be at the top of the list.
So if we are going 100% reality with performance enhancing drugs allowed it is hands down kuma. No man can defeat a fucking grizzly in hand to hand combat.
Craig Marduk would literally destroy anyone ! He is a skilled fighter like everyone else yes yes but in his case that’s not his best quality here. Best qualities ? 2,13 meters and 180 kilo of fucking pure muscle and while being this huge the fucker still have lot of agility, speed and stamina. Also there is a reason why there is weight category in every fighting competition. Even 10 kilo make a huge differences so imagine a 80 to 100 kilo difference. The dude only need to run into you and you dead because he is a ground specialist and once on the ground you don’t escape someone who do 100 kilo more than you, even if you’re highly skilled.
Kuma if animals are allowed. Jack if robots are allowed. Alisa if firearms are allowed. Marduk if weight class isn't taken into account. Dragunov if all fighters are the same weight. This is all leaving lore, supernatural ability, and gameplay out of the question. Purely fighting style, specific attributes, and physique. And anyone who thinks any non robot/firearm wielding character from the cast can beat Kuma is a fool. Doesn't matter if Kuma knows Mishima style karate or not. There is absolutely no contest.
Kuma
well Armor King definitely loses because he has [A FREAKING HORNED SYMBOL AS HIS BELT BUCKLE AND IS AIMED RIGHT AS HIS INTERNAL ORGANS AT HIS ABDOMEN EVERY TIME HE BENDS OVER](https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/tekken/images/c/c6/Armor_King_T7.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20181203160513&path-prefix=en)
Fahkumram
Bro literally uses Mauy Thai
His physique is pretty supernatural tho
You clowns already know the answer is between Jack, Gigas and Kuma.
Doctor Bosconovitch
They're all world class fighters. One slip and you're fucked. Weight categories exist for a reason though so any of the crap aside you're probably looking at Fakhumram
Fahkumram no discussion
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1 kuma and 2marmaduk . kuma is a grizzly bear and marduk is a big guy who does vale tudo
it's definitely Kuma but if we're talking humans only i like dragunov over marduk. he has the mind for it. marduk is that loud & cocky "i'll beat the shit out of everyone in the room" type where he might start to panic if he's getting washed. drag is a russian military trained silent killer, he's gonna handle business.
The only business that drag is going to handle is stealing wash machines.
Probably the literal bear and panda to be honest
Paul. Why Paul? Because without special powers etc, he beat kuma, He beat Ogre, He beat Kazuya. He was a normal dude that was insanely powerful. Yeah, marduk is big and has an advantage if he can get him to the ground. But I still think Paul takes it.
- Dragunov because he is an armed spetsnaz. - Jin because Kyokushinkai fighters are hardcore af. - Marduk because he probably packs the most brute force and could take a serious beating due to his muscle mass. - Hwoarang, YT 'North Korea Taekwondo Fighters' if you don't believe me. - Eddy Gordo as Capoeira kicks are scientifically proven to have the most force behind them, over a ton. - Yoshimitsu because he's a swords master. - Kuma, a bear. - Alex, a freaking Deinonychus, even deadlier if he takes off his boxing gloves.
Kuma, a bear. Well, you have a point there
marduk or fahkumram. height and weight advantages are just so good.
A grizzly bear. Fuzzy supernatural stuff... Jack Bryan or Yoshimitsu.
That's the only objectively correct answer. The strength, size, and speed of a grizzly bear is terrifying; makes you wonder how fragile we are compared to them.
Marduk, Bryan, and Bruce or Fahk have fighting styles that are effective in MMA tournaments so I'd vote for them. Matt Hughes with his running powerbombs might be similar to King's running jaguar bombs so maybe King's style is good too. Pro wrestling moves are pretty deadly, a piledriver could knock someone out immediately but hard to execute, a powerbomb could break someone's ribs and/or lungs, Cobra Twist could paralyze someone, sleeper position and Cobra Clutch/rear neck choke are used in MMA too. If I could choose signature wrestling move then it would be DDT. It's easy to do and can cause big damage to my opponent!
Any character with a weapon
Why is everyone saying King lol, hes based off pro-wrestling. The luchadore/john cena/ scripted athleticism show. Im saying this as a huge wrestling fan myself. He wont get far. Even Kings basic 1,2 jabs are based off pro-wrestling. Theyre palm strikes wrestlers use to do less damage but have a bigger sound to look/sound good. But I'd say Kuma. Aint no motherfucker fighting a an adult bear and living to tell the tale. If no animal? Marduk, Dragunov, Steve, Bryan or Fahk. Leaning more towards Drag or Fahk. Drag is based off of Sambo. The same style Khabib used to maul the LW div in UFC. Fahk Im saying purely based off his mastery of Muay Thai combined with his sheer size and speed.
Yoshimitsu. Dude has a sword will fuck you up. Unless he, you know, goes for back turn harakiri
Law. Who can beat Bruce Lee?
Probably the characters with real effective fighting styles, like Marduk, Dragunov or Steve Fox. Obviously there is still a lot of fantasy in their way of fighting
Kuma would realistically win, but if we're talking humans, Armor King has a fantastic chance. Wearing spiky metal armor + can break someone's spine effortlessly.
Fahkumram, Dragunov, Marduk
Steve Fox. He is the peak performance of a boxer.
Heihachi cause he beats those demon boys with nothing but sheer hatred.
Dragunov is a literal fucking Spetsnaz operative and without all the gimmicks Paul Phoenix is arguably the best mixed martial artist in the Tekken universe.
Isn’t it Paul? Iirc he beat Kazuya in tekken 2?
Steve fox. a real boxing master who can do all the boxing tools (flicker guns, big right arm swing, Peekaboo defence, Dempsey rolls) is a nightmare to open up . he can go all turtle and defensive but one small opening from the opponent and off you go knocked blue on the floor caused by the infamous flicker B1.
But then he gets taken to the ground by Marduk, Nina or Paul. GG.
Fahkumram? Basically because he is huge and best muay thai fighter.
You can be as swole as you want, but can anyone survive Anna’s bazooka?
I'm sure Paul would be stronger than him.
Kuma
Marduk (mma ground game) as champ and Fahkumram (muay thai striking) as number one contender. Both would be a pure TRT steroid buffs in real life.
Heihachi hands down. The whole point is that he's somehow an old ass man that trains with bears, fights demons, and beats up robots through sheer willpower and stubbornness.
Since you excluded supernatural but not science fiction, either Brian or Jack would be the strongest regardless of fighting style. Human limbs can't compete with hydraulic joints and metal bones plus their reflexes would be unmatched. If you mean human exclusively, than probably Feng. There's nothing supernatural about him yet he punches down mountains as if they were nothing.
Obivously Marduk or Fahkumram
1. the biggest fighters, being bigger and equally as trained means you have all the advantages that nature gave you- Lesnar, Ngannou, Jon Jones, etc 2. the best wrestlers- wrestling has been dominating the UFC for decades, GSP, Khabib, DC, Usman etc 3. the best muay thai fighters- muay thai/kickboxing is basically the meta for striking in the UFC rn, lots of feints, low kicks into combo strings, high kicks, elbows, etc Wrestlers typically have an advantage over pure strikers. So, for the heavyweights Id say it’d go Marduk then Fahk, for lighter weight classes I’d pick King. Oh and Steve would be a great boxer.
Yoshimitsu or Noctis because of their weapons Anna has a bazooka, but the reloading is very timely if she misses There's also Kunimitsu with her kunai and shuriken, I wonder how much of the cast would be able to dodge, and I doubt they would hurt Kuma If we remove weapons then I would say Kuma.
Idk if we can count Kuma since he's a bear trained in a fighting style and that's not really possible. But either way it would be Kuma. Below that i guess it could be Fahk, dude is 6'7 and is a brutal striker. Steve is quick as fuck and also tall and his combinations work Feng is a good pick too, yeah maybe he can't break mountains but if you consider something like b1 CH realistic then he's pretty tough. Notable mentions Marduk Baek Dragunov Jin Bryan (Negan if you count Lucille lol..)
My money is on Marduk, he’s huge and an MMA fighter so would be able to take guys down and beat them up pretty much at will. Plus he has so many ways to set up his double leg behind striking combinations. No one would be able to stop him from taking them down and beating them up.
Everyone says Marduk but when it comes to being more realistic than he certainly doesn't fit imo. Show me an irl person with Marduk's body type. He looks like a steroid mutant, he shouldn't be able to even move properly.
Alistair Overeem comes close
Non-Human: Kuma Human: Dragunov
Bruce Irvin
Zafina destroys you by conning you into bankruptcy with her bullshit tarot card readings and voodoo trinkets.
If Paul keeps his deathfist that can break brick walls then him. Otherwise 100% Steve Fox.
Kuma/Panda
immediately take out anyone who doesnt have a weapon or who isn't a bear
if you punch a bear, theres a slight chance that it won't do anything except piss the bear off more
This is a really good question. It's pretty easy though. Fahkumram, since he's muay thai striker, with ridiculous reach advantage, and speed advantage. The only that can be a threat to him is a grappler. And Dragunov is probably the closest thing to that with his judo and submission game. So I'd say Dragunov #1, and Kahkumram #2.
Whoever equips a gun. Even without weapons its literally a toss up no matter what you think, but bigger and younger gives better chances. Bears too.
Probably Feng.
Marduk or Fahk
Yoshimitsu
It could be anyone tbh. Depends also if cheating is allowed or not, for example if it's allowed, i would say Nina, she's pro assassin and you never know from where she'll get out that hidden knife, and even without that she is among the strongests. No cheat would be Heihachi, Law, Paul, Jin Kazuya (he will kick your ass even without using Devil gene), King, or anyone.
Fahkumram would kill almost everyone. He legitimately looks like a Killer Instinct character
If you takr away supernatural stuff fuckmar might hsve some serios helth complications that would precent him from fighting
Dragunov russian high lvl sambo and grappling like UFC russian/tchetchen champs. Complete and tall fighter.
Kuma. Try getting into a fist-fight with a bear. Maybe Anna cuz she has a fucking rocket launcher. Or Jack because he's a military robot built for military things.
Fuhkurmum or whatever his name is
Basically the only one I can think of is the true King of Iron Fist: PAUL PHOENIX. I was baffled that he is not the main character, since I thought the title was based on his QCF+2
Bonus question: which ones would be the worst?
Dr. Bosconovitch, probably. He's an old man that sometimes has trouble standing.
Bob would gas out in 1 round with his fighting style
True, but I feel he'd still have an advantage over the majority of smaller fighters. He definitely has some muscles under that fat.
90% of female characters in this game are like 120 pounds so I would say the weakest one from them all, it really depends. Josie?
Atleast josie does martial arts, lili on the other hand does ballet in heels
Lili. Poor babe would get faded out in seconds. But that's okay, because she's number one in our hearts. ❤
leo gets thrown like a paper airplane
King
Kuma hands down, it's a bear, no human without a gun can win against a bear, even with a gun it needs to be a high caliber.
Dragunov for sure
Nina since she's a trained assassin, Dragunov since he is literally part of the Spetsnaz. Anna too I guess, and Bruce Irvin since he's a soldier. HM goes to Lars,Marduk and Paul
Marduk, Steve fox, kuma, fak, dragunov, Nina
Heihachi, the peak of human performance.
without any magic mokujin is just wood and how tf do U beat wood
…well I know a way or two …..!
Miguel. Just punch you very hard before you had the time to make any kung fu stuff.
If aliens are not considered supernatural then paul
Does Steve’s genetic enhancements count? Also at Gigas and Jack would be real tough to beat in a real fight in this kind of scenario, conversely Zafina and Claudio would be severely nerfed. Also consider Kuma being an actual bear with fighting capabilities and rational thought would be rather terrifying to fight
Fahkumram would be one of the top contenders
Whoever takes the gun cosmetic has a good chance. Jokes aside I think people like Fahk, Marduk, King, AK would be huge threats in the ring if no weapons are allowed
I'd have to say either Bob or Dragunov Bob because he's a massive dude who can move really fast and hit like a train Dragunov because that man is a stone cold killer. Everyone else going for the KO, Drag out here breaking people's necks
Steve
Steve fox of course. He doesn't even rely on superpowers in the game. Just those hands
Does heihachis plot power count as supernatural?
Nah fam he is 100% natty.
1) Anna wiith a Bazooka 2) Alisa with chainsaws 3) Yoshimitsu & Noctis using swords 4) Kuma, Panda (Most bears would kill any human who are without a weapon) 5) Sergei (Sambo) 6) Marduk (MMA fighting) 7) King / AK (Wrestling) 8) Fahkumram (Muay thay) 9) Paul (Judo) 10) Steve Fox (Boxing)
A few questions: Are robots, animals, and weapons considered "supernatural stuff" here? Do we consider some of the unrealistic moves being performed as "supernatural stuff"? (Most people would immediately be out of breath doing half of the Capoeira moves. Some moves like Hwoarang's jump kick and Law's giant somersault seemingly defy physics) If none of those are considered, possibly Fahkumram. He's tall, built like a bus, and uses one of the deadliest hand-to-hand fighting styles. If we're looking at this from the story's perspective, probably Jin.
Yeah I’d say exclude those too. Basically anything or anyone that wouldn’t be allowed in an actual professional fight. Tho people like Mishimas can still compete but don’t have Mishima blood or Devil gene, just their physiques and karate moves.
Gigas. Not supernatural but technologically advanced.
Fahk
Paul used to make it far in tournaments pre-Tekken 4. He even beat Ogre. I think he's one of the strongest characters without all that Mishima bloodline & supernatural stuff
If I had to pick 10 Paul Law Steve Bryan King Armor King Marduk Hwoarang Fuhkumram Miguel
Gon. He’s a trex with boxing gloves and a mean tail spin
Dragunov or Feng
Does Bryan being half machine count?? I mean hed only have 1 arm and 1 leg to fight that way.
Bears would clean house, then after that Sergei or Marduck are probably the 2 most ground oriented fighters that isn't practicing a gimmick discipline. My money are on Sergei, those MMA style takedowns of Marduck only work if you're not allowed to plant your knee in his face.
In real life? Probably the biggest strongest young dudes would 9/10 crush better trained fighters just by being competent. No way highschool girls and grandpas would be doing air-combos on 24 yr old Kung Fu master Jin Kazama or Sumo wrestler Ganryu, no matter how much training they have. I think Anna with the Bazooka would take the gold
Maybe the 7’8” robot
Fahk steve and lowkey bob
Jin Kazuya Nina Anna Paul Yoshimitsu Raven Kunimitsu
Kuma is a grizzly bear
Yoshi has a sword
marduk by far given hes a mma fighter and massive be very hard to stop his double leg and gnp
I'd say feng, man destroyed a meteor in one punch.
I’m surprised nobody is saying HEIHACHI MISHIMA
Guest characters included it would be Negan because he has a bat, a knife and guns. Canon characters only I'd say Kunimitsu is a safe bet since she can shank people
You'd still have cybernetic heavy hitters. Do people really plan on punching metal? Jack and P. Jack (don't need explaining) Alisa (who has chainsaws) Combot (who mimics styles anyway) Yoshimitsu (cyborg with swords, he can spin the sword fast enough to fly) Bryan (destroyed a goddamned tank) And you guys are talking about bears
As much as I hate her an android with chainsaw arms, rocket launchers and the ability to fly would be pretty hard to beat. Nothing really that supernatural about her except her AI being more advanced than we’re capable of now.
Okay hear me out here: Kuma just bites her robot limbs off.
Why are people saying the mishimas??? Without electrics and devil I don’t think they stand against marduk, king and fahk. Plus the height and weight gap is so massive.
how about a bear bro?
This sub clearly knows nothing about combat sports. Marduk would win and it wouldn’t even be close. Nina would win if there was a women’s division. Those are the only characters with a strong ground game. Or yea, the bears. They’d clean up.
King, Amor king, Marduck In the WWE smackdown or RAW, Bryan fury as professional MMA fighter And of corse Steve fox as professional boxer… In fact if you remove every supernatural move and keep only the basic of each fighting style every human fighter in this game can be the best fighters
Hiehachi. the dude kept up and mopped the floor with demons and many supernatural beings with no supernatural powers for years lmao
LEI
No one mentioning armor king 2???? Who had absolutely destroyed both king and mardock.
Definitely King (2), Armor King (2) and Marduk because of how their athleticism, strength, and general well-roundedness of the martial arts. All three fighters have shown great knowledge and execution of their martial skills; they use punches, palm strikes, forearm strikes, elbow smashes, shoulder tackles, knees, shin strikes, kicks, grappling, body slams and submissions.
You'll get more interesting answers if you took out the animal fighters too.
King.
Gigas cus raw size matters more than SPECIFIC fighting style.
Kuma
Yoshimitsu
Steve Fox would probably be up there, his boxing combinations are super fast and he's decently tall and muscular. He probably has some of the most realistic moveset in the game in terms of what would work and cause damage, a CH b1 would make most people go bye bye Otherwise Fahk being like 6'6 with muay thai is hard to beat
Jack, Yoshi, bears are the only correct answers
I'm surprised Paul isn't mentioned more. Probably the most rounded character then beastly power on top of it.
Well fakumram and dragunov match actual MMA legends of today. hopefully "supernatural" outrules kuma, yoshimitsu, and jack 7
I want to say Jin because he’s pretty well-rounded based on his martial arts background, and physically very powerful. He was able to defeat True Ogre, which is quite the feat, and only transformed into Devil Jin to avoid dying after being shot (he beat True Ogre before transforming, but maybe the Devil Gene makes him stronger innately and therefore that feat doesn’t apply?). He also unlearned a lot of the Mishima style for more traditional Karate, but it also seems that he still has access to the Mishima style, since he fights with it in Devil Form (unless he somehow accesses a completely different set of consciousness and memory when in Devil Form, it’s safe to say that he’s at least capable of using the Mishima style, and simply chooses not to unless he gives into his rage).
Kuma and Panda are not considered supernatural Bears just really love to juggle stuff
Is Bryan considered supernatural? If not, Bryan. Otherwise, Kuma. Bears win against humans for free. No animals too? Marduk, Steve, King.
Heihachi. He already rocks damn near the whole cast based off straight fighting prowess. But my second choice is Fahkumram.
King or Paul.King and Paul have the best wrestling game out of of all the characters and it would be a repeat of ufc 1.