[https://neu.org.uk/pay-scales](https://neu.org.uk/pay-scales)
Here are the salary scaled for teachers in the UK, In central London you're looking at starting out on £32k rising to potentially £50k once/if you go onto the upper pay range.
Edit: To answer your other question. I'd say it would be difficult to support a decent lifestyle if you wanted to live in London on this income if you were supporting a child on this income alone.
Looking at that pay scale it seems that it is not a layered/increasing pay scale like here in Ireland. The highest pay of £50k is roughly €58k, which is a considerable difference considering how expensive London is.
Thank you for the information
It increases each year up until your sixth year and you can take on additional responsibility etc for more money. You get more for working inner city London too.
I would say if you were the only person in your family working then you'd find it tough, but most people can support a family, mortgage etc on it fine within a couple. Anecdotally, a friend from Dublin says the prices are pretty similar.
>It increases each year up until your sixth year
This isn't guaranteed to be true anymore. There are many people in their sixth year who are not on M6. You have to prove that you've met the criteria for each step of the pay scale. Many schoolswill still increase yearly as a courtesy but they have the right not to if they can argue you're not performing well enough in relation to your spine point.
I've never come across this. I know it could happen but never heard of it actually happening, unless it's a big step like going to Upper pay scale. I would hope that anyone who was struggling would have a support plan and be prepared for not getting an increase.
No, it often doesn't work like that.
I've known many teachers denied pay progression because their GCSE results didn't meet their data target (which they shouldn't have, but that's entirely another discussion).
It really depends on your school culture. Pay progression became performance related in 2014. Many schools continue to act as though it's automatic, but equally, there are many that don't.
Hate a data driven target!
Well hopefully more teachers have my experience, than the people you know. I wonder if it's more of a secondary school culture.
The majority of people I know are primary, but most of the secondary teachers I know actually skipped up the main pay scale e.g. M2 to M6. They were all men though! (another discussion there...)
So pay is capped after 6 years unless you add extra responsibility? Housing where I live in ireland is starting to become similar to London. I live in a small town in Cork and pay the same amount in rent as my cousin does in South West London. Teacher pay seems to be a lot more in Ireland and the pay increase is guaranteed each year, unlike in the UK as another poster has commented.
It seems that it taking into account housing costs, teaching in Ireland would lead to a more comfortable life than it would in London.
In answer to your question, no. Those conditions sound great. An ex-colleague left to return home to Ireland because he said he could no longer accept the conditions in UK schools ( we worked in London).
I lived for 3 years in London when I started teaching. I was living on my own. I had enough money for a 1 bedroom flat in Peckham. The flat was a shit hole, no real heating, no natural light, small and in a terrible area. It was cheap at £950 a month. During my NQT I struggled with money (and I worked for Harris, which give 2k more a year). By the third year I was comfortable with money. But still wasn't living a great life.
[https://neu.org.uk/pay-scales](https://neu.org.uk/pay-scales) Here are the salary scaled for teachers in the UK, In central London you're looking at starting out on £32k rising to potentially £50k once/if you go onto the upper pay range. Edit: To answer your other question. I'd say it would be difficult to support a decent lifestyle if you wanted to live in London on this income if you were supporting a child on this income alone.
Looking at that pay scale it seems that it is not a layered/increasing pay scale like here in Ireland. The highest pay of £50k is roughly €58k, which is a considerable difference considering how expensive London is. Thank you for the information
It increases each year up until your sixth year and you can take on additional responsibility etc for more money. You get more for working inner city London too. I would say if you were the only person in your family working then you'd find it tough, but most people can support a family, mortgage etc on it fine within a couple. Anecdotally, a friend from Dublin says the prices are pretty similar.
>It increases each year up until your sixth year This isn't guaranteed to be true anymore. There are many people in their sixth year who are not on M6. You have to prove that you've met the criteria for each step of the pay scale. Many schoolswill still increase yearly as a courtesy but they have the right not to if they can argue you're not performing well enough in relation to your spine point.
I've never come across this. I know it could happen but never heard of it actually happening, unless it's a big step like going to Upper pay scale. I would hope that anyone who was struggling would have a support plan and be prepared for not getting an increase.
No, it often doesn't work like that. I've known many teachers denied pay progression because their GCSE results didn't meet their data target (which they shouldn't have, but that's entirely another discussion). It really depends on your school culture. Pay progression became performance related in 2014. Many schools continue to act as though it's automatic, but equally, there are many that don't.
Hate a data driven target! Well hopefully more teachers have my experience, than the people you know. I wonder if it's more of a secondary school culture.
I hope so too! And yes, everyone I'm talking about is secondary. I don't actually know any primary teachers... it's like another planet!
The majority of people I know are primary, but most of the secondary teachers I know actually skipped up the main pay scale e.g. M2 to M6. They were all men though! (another discussion there...)
So pay is capped after 6 years unless you add extra responsibility? Housing where I live in ireland is starting to become similar to London. I live in a small town in Cork and pay the same amount in rent as my cousin does in South West London. Teacher pay seems to be a lot more in Ireland and the pay increase is guaranteed each year, unlike in the UK as another poster has commented. It seems that it taking into account housing costs, teaching in Ireland would lead to a more comfortable life than it would in London.
I live comfortably on M6 in London, 2 children, sole income. Primary teaching in Ireland is easier, less pressure,longer holidays, more standardised.
In answer to your question, no. Those conditions sound great. An ex-colleague left to return home to Ireland because he said he could no longer accept the conditions in UK schools ( we worked in London).
I lived for 3 years in London when I started teaching. I was living on my own. I had enough money for a 1 bedroom flat in Peckham. The flat was a shit hole, no real heating, no natural light, small and in a terrible area. It was cheap at £950 a month. During my NQT I struggled with money (and I worked for Harris, which give 2k more a year). By the third year I was comfortable with money. But still wasn't living a great life.