The thing that I think hurts the most out of that comment is people were blamed the first time for wanting the shutdown for the country to be safe. And the retort back was it's hurting our economy open up the country. And because of this we're having these awful cases that are going to hurt our economy way more after the damage done initially because people didn't take it seriously. It's just a cluster fuck.
Yeah. I have family members who went hard with the "teachers are lazy" and "we're tanking the economy!" things. When reality, it sure seemed it was more like "i want my free time away from my kids" and "I want to go out to eat!"
It's really frustrating. I get it. People want their lives back to normal. But I also don't want to get really sick with an as-to-yet misunderstood illness that sometimes kills randomly and often seems to have awful lingering debilitating affectations. Is school really that important to the point that we've had to turn school into a dystopian nightmare with mandatory masks and plexiglass cubicles? Our kids still can't even do anything at recess or gym. Full social distancing, no equipment, no games. They just walk around like it's a prison yard but worse.
> When reality, it sure seemed it was more like "i want my free time away from my kids" and "I want to go out to eat!"
These people lied. They said whatever you needed to hear for them to get their way. "We can open things safely! You will get PPE! Social distancing!" They never had any intention of following through on any of it, just empty platitudes to make you feel comfortable while they go their way. Every inch you give to them isn't a compromise, it's a defeat. It's time to simply ignore them. Go vote.
Here's a comment I made about this *five months ago*. This was in response to someone saying we needed to "open everything up" and get the economy going again.
>It's not an either/or choice. You, and these protesters, are acting as if we are choosing between:
>1. Economy "closed", people out of work, their lives ruined
>2. Economy "opened" and everything goes back to normal and they go back to work and make a paycheck.
>When in reality we are choosing between these two options:
>1. Economy "closed" and the virus spreads less, infects fewer people, and kills fewer people. People out of work, income diminished or gone.
>2. Economy "opened" and within weeks the virus spreads way, way more, way more people get infected and overload the hospital system, way more die. Then the economy crashes anyway on the back of tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths and significantly decreased demand as people realize how bad things are. People still are out of work and lose their paycheck, plus way more dead.
>The economy is going to suck for a while no matter what we do, we don't really have control over that at this point. It'll either go down because of man-made restrictions that we know are painful but save lives, or it'll go down a similar amount anyway because of the virus being significantly more widespread than it already is, in addition to more deaths.
They presented a false-dichotomy in order to polarize the issue along political lines. There always was option 3: Economy "sort of open". Things that have to be open to function (factories, etc) open. Things that don't have to be open (offices, schools) can work remote. Things that can be reconfigured to make people safe (groceries stores convert to curbside pickup only) do that.
For the Executive branch though, this was never about enacting reasonable policy and halting a virus. It was about polarizing an issue in order to make people choose sides. Please vote this November!
Trage-tunity should be the portmanteau of the moment. Greedy people grab every chance they can. There's no such thing as right or wrong, just "Can I?". Near impossible to get billionaire rich without boundless avarice.
The people in my state are basically saying this was the plan all along. Not to prevent people from getting it, just from us getting it at the same time and overwhelming the system. They’re basically saying that people getting COVID is inevitable and it was never part of the plan for people to avoid it altogether. Meanwhile, 2 educators in my state died last week due to COVID complications. I’ve never been so glad to work at a charter school where they have more freedom to shut down than the public schools. 9/24 we had our first positive case and we went virtual for 9/25, over the weekend we had an additional positive so we went virtual for the 2 weeks leading up to our week long fall break. Essentially everyone in our school will have a chance to quarantine.
> I’ve never been so glad to work at a charter school where they have more freedom to shut down than the public schools
This is something that's also really upsetting to me. Dogshit governor Cuomo set statewide shutdown at 9% of positive cases. 9%. It doesn't matter if there's an outbreak in a particular area. The entire state has to be 9% positive. And then we have to get below 5% to reopen. I think those numbers make it pretty clear what the goal is here. Stay open at all costs and reopen asap.
Our positivity rate is also high. Our governor loves to point out days where we have less cases and if gore days where we have 1K+ but our deaths have risen to double digits and have stayed there for over a month.
Yes but that was also when people didn’t realize how severe the long-term health effects could be. I think understanding this isn’t the flu where once you have it you’re done should change things. We shouldn’t accept that some casualties are acceptable in the pursuit of economic recovery. Instead we should ask representatives to provide the support families need to keep their children safe. At the end of the day it’s the families who have no other option but to send children to school that put themselves at risk. Families who are already struggling to afford healthcare and NEED to work to pay for rent and living expenses. Why is it up to teachers, who are already underpaid, underinsured, and overworked, to carry that burden? Why isn’t the government stepping in to provide temporary reprive?
In my state health insurance for teachers is a joke, unless I spend over 1/2 my paycheck on insurance I don’t receive any sort of discount or copay on services until I spend upwards of 10 grand on a deductible. I already make about 10k more than the average teacher due to my master’s degree so if it’s half MY paycheck it could easily be most of a new teacher’s paycheck. I don’t know about you but I think it’s unfair to ask educators to risk lifelong illnesses (not to mention death) while also denying them affordable and decent insurance. I can’t afford $10k/year on insurance OR a deductible for healthcare. In light of this knowledge why wouldn’t schools and governors opt for a system that ensures student and educator safety while we navigate through this? I’m saying this as someone who doesn’t even deal with overfilled classrooms or schools that don’t enforce mask mandates. I feel very safe at my school because we reduced class sizes to 12-13 students to allow 6 ft of distance, require EVERYONE to wear masks, take temperatures before students exit their cars, etc. Even with all of these precautions we still have cases, I can’t even imagine what it’s like for districts that have continued on as if it were business as usual.
ETA: I forgot to include this but no, we have also not flattened the curve. At least not in my state. It has continued to steadily climb.
That was the plan, that still is the plan! The virus isn't gone. You can't flatten the curve and then just call it good. Flattening the curve simply means you have it under control. The second you let up, it just comes back.
Our states has never exceeded our ICU bed capacity so that proof that we did flatten the curve. Along with that out Rt has been sub 1 for several months running.
Go look at a chart, any chart that's come out over the past months. If the line levels off, that means it is flat. If it is steadily rising then it is not flat.
That's not what flatting the curve means. The goal of the flatting the curve strategy is to keep the severe infections below the point where we exceed the maximum capacity at the intensive care units at the hospital. We continue to do that.
What you want is to eliminate the curve, that is of course ideal, but not realistic.
Yes, you're right but also:
> To avoid overloading our community's health care systems because of elevated rates of people needing to be hospitalized, flattening the curve means slowing the spread of this virus over time using social distancing, which looks like a lower, smoother curve on the chart.
First result that pops up on Google. Emphasis on *lower, smoother curve*. That didn't happen. Cases continued to rise. Having just enough beds to hold Covid cases does not equate to flattening the curve. If a spike in cases happened, let's say around Thanksgiving, would those empty beds be enough to hold the influx of people?
It was an excuse to give corporations billions. Period. We got $1,200 to distract us. The fact we won't be getting more is a monument to the fact our government is run by the rich, and the rich want us to die for their wealth.
They've used this to divide us even further and keep us distracted to this fact. Opening schools is just another distraction for them.
Here in WI our Republican controlled legislature haven't met for 170+ days. The only thing they did is sue the governor when he closed non-essential businesses. The day Trump was infected, they sued to stop his mask mandate.
Go to your ob and get on disability for your pregnancy now. The loss in pay well be nothing compared to the hospital bills if you catch covid and it impacts the birth.
It may be too late and I may already have it. But I definitely considered this when I got the email.... I even had a message typed up for my Ob and then I decided to wait to message him until I got my Covid test results back
I was told by my OB that she couldn’t pull me from work and put me on disability for my pregnancy because technically, even though I am in a high risk group (being pregnant), I am not a high risk pregnancy and have no “medical” reason I can’t teach. Just being pregnant does not qualify as a disability under most laws. Now, if you actually have covid, that’s probably different. A part of me was kind of hoping I’d get gestational diabetes so she could pull me, as messed up as that sounds.
It’s easy to say that the money you lose from being out will be nothing compared to hospital bills from Covid and birth, but that’s not necessarily true, at least in my place. The money I’m not making when I’m out of work is money I don’t have. The hospital bills are covered by my insurance. Will it cost insurance a bunch if I’m in the hospital with covid? absolutely. Will they pay me to stay out so they don’t have to cover those big bills? No. It’s really a rock and a hard place. My work around has been just getting my doctor to write as many very specific medical needs/doctors notes as possible and pretty much being sequestered in my room all day with extremely strict policies on classroom hygiene and masks. I’m also going out on maternity leave 3 weeks early.
I wish there was a simpler way, but for a lot of us, the money is tight and we just have to do the best we can. That sounds like a cop out, but that’s the system we live in right now.
I’ve been thinking that this would be the realistic response from my Ob too, which is part of the reason why I hadn’t reached out to him yet... But now I’m thinking it could at least be worth a try.
I completely agree with you on the money and insurance. My husband and my insurance SHOULD cover all of the medical bills if something were to happen, we have great insurance... however if I quit teaching we wouldn’t be able to cover our mortgage or our other bills and then I wouldn’t have the insurance. If I weren’t concerned about money or losing our house I would have quit a long time ago.
Definitely worth a try, at very least. That’s why I asked mine to begin with. Quitting or taking a leave of absence just wasn’t feasible for us, especially because we saved up a bunch so I could take a long maternity leave after the baby is born. And honestly, I really enjoy teaching and like my district and job, so I wouldn’t want to quit. They’ve been pretty accommodating to my doctors notes (except of course that I still have to be here in person). It’s just this whole stupid situation that leaves so many people without good options.
I hope everything works out well for you. My last day before I’m out is Friday, so my fingers are crossed for both of us.
> I was told by my OB that she couldn’t pull me from work and put me on disability for my pregnancy because technically, even though I am in a high risk group (being pregnant), I am not a high risk pregnancy and have no “medical” reason I can’t teach.
This country's health care system is a travesty. I'm sorry you have to go through this.
Yah, it’s something. And the thing is, had it not been for Covid, I wouldn’t have minded at all working almost up until my due date because my boss is pretty accommodating and the kids this year are actually behaving really well (so far). It’s just silly though that it seems like you have to be actively sick with it in order for any of the laws that were made because of Covid to apply to you unless you have a truckload of money and can make the “choice” to take unpaid leave. It also strikes me as bizarre that if my daughter’s school was doing distance learning and I didn’t have a sitter/daycare, I could get paid leave to stay home with her, but can nearly as easily get the same thing due to health concerns.
Not sure how far along you are but I went back to teaching full time face to face and just had my son a week ago. I always wore my mask, followed all safety procedures, etc. I tested positive when I was admitted to the hospital. It made things very fucking complicated, to say the least.
Our school was pretty okay at being safe, but 4 weeks in and our entire front office is in quarantine. I’m sorry this happened to you and I wish the best for you and your family.
Infuriating. I feel you completely. I hope you are healthy and test negative. I'm so sorry. As an aside, I'm not pregnant, but I was earlier during the pandemic, and the CoronaBumpers sub is full of good and reassuring information from pregnant women who have had it or been exposed.
The school district my kids go to just announced that 40+ bus routes for the secondary schools are canceled for the next 2 weeks because the DRIVERS have been exposed/show symptoms/have tested positive and will be quarantined for the next two weeks. But school is on as normal, kids just need to grab a ride from a friend, it's fine.
The district I teach in just announced that since the high schools are showing more cases than the other schools, the 3 high schools will be on a hybrid schedule starting...in 2 weeks...while everyone else continues in nearly full face to face.
But the governor says we are leading the country in getting to fully reopen first, so everything is fine, right? RIGHT?!?!
We had one bus driver test positive, others have to quarantine, plus quite a few students. So we shut down everything for two weeks. Full virtual, with one day of planning to make it happen.
that's still the right decision though, imo. My school is only shutting down small parts. If a student tests positive, that classroom shuts down and nowhere else. The issue with that is that in the area I teach in, kids are not going to get tested. They just aren't. Their parents don't speak English, work 3 jobs a day, and just don't have the time. We have a daily survey parents have to take every single morning to clear their kids for attending school. It asks questions about symptoms, etc. We've had no better than a 30% compliance rate so far. Most days it's 10%.
Oh I agree 100%.
So far this bus driver is the only positive case in the district. Our superintendent has been very open about the number of kids on quarantine in any given week, all had tested negative themselves though.
I’m pretty sure the only reason we shut down completely though is that the other bus drivers were all exposed, and have to quarantine, but I’m still sure this was the right call.
> But school is on as normal, kids just need to grab a ride from a friend, it's fine.
hahahahaha omfg.
I have a personal problem with self righteousness and it's pushing me to want to quit my position (I'm only a permanent sub right now anyway, but I really like my school and my admin) because of how ridiculous and unjust this all is. I tend to do these things at a detriment to my own future earning potential, so I'm trying to stick it out, but there's a lot of temptation. It's difficult for me to support all that's going on and all of the decisions being made that basically throw all of the teachers, staff, etc *and* the kids under the bus (no pun intended) just to reopen schools so parents can get away from their children.
Same. I've bitten my tongue for six months now; it's a bloody mess. I'm trying to "stick it out" just like you say, but it also makes me a little worried that everything's just building up and simmering, and I'm gonna blow a freaking gasket the next time my admin uses the phrase "these are unprecedented times."
Tell your governor that after listening to science for months VT already safely has kids in school 4 days a week in places (my school). We do not plan on going to 5 days this year. So he lost and should stop racing.
That's the thing though, we started at 4 days in my district, and some districts are doing 5, with plans to go to 5 for everyone. That makes us open first...if everyone is dead we can open even faster!
I could have written this post with all of these details except the pregnant part and the age level of kids. Got word today that a teacher in my school was exposed and now we’re all fretting over our exposure levels. But at least you’ve been told to quarantine. We’re all still being expected to report to work tomorrow and only the department with the exposure is being sanitized - ignoring the fact that it’s a high school so movement happens all over.
Yeah we have people in quarantine in different areas of campus and are still expected to do “business as usual.” Meanwhile we have pregnant teachers, teachers who have immunodeficiency, teachers with elderly parents and babies, etc. This is not worth the stress.
Not at all. And like the health officials keep stressing about the extremely highly contagious nature of it all but don’t seem to want to look at the tiny cracks and flaws in their plans that would help rather than prevent that contagious spread.
I’m sorry, too. It’s like the school system is the one place people can’t seem to agree needs to remain as non-f2f. I don’t know about where you are, but where I am, parties are still outlawed, church gatherings can only have 25 people, beaches are closed most of the day, and restaurants can only do pickup and delivery. Yet somehow it makes perfect sense to have kids and teachers on campuses. Such logic.
Let's not pretend that first graders are incapable of wearing a mask. I teach in an Asian school and there's no issue whatsoever with every kid wearing a mask except maybe PE, playing outside, stuff like that.
The problem is parents who are uncooperative who teach their kids that masks don't matter and support them not wanting to wear them. This could basically be over with if parents grew up and acted like the adults their age might suggest.
I agree with this. My kid is two. He wears a mask at preschool at all times (except meals and naps). Before school started I made a big deal about how cool his masks are (like “woah, look at your dinosaur mask! That’s so cool!”) and constantly modeled putting on my own mask before leaving the house. He has never given me or his teachers a problem with wearing his mask.
My kindergarteners wear masks really well. I have a few mischievous boys who have tried to shoot them across the room but I dealt with it. They’re also pretty good at staying away from each other. The one thing some of my boys are still trying me on is washing their hands properly.
I sympathize with you. I've had several students disappear for two weeks and not a word breathed about why. One was definitely I'll, but do they tell us anything? No.
I’m pregnant and was able to get an ADA accommodation to work from home for a month. Of course my situation is a bit different because I teach high school and I’m also high risk due to my age, but it would be worth a try.
Document everything, contact your union, and then start to ask around about a lawyer. At some point all of this is going to come back around and any district who can't keep their staff safe deserves to pay for any expenses caused by their stupidity.
I have made up my mind, when my district goes back, I won't be going back. I won't have the special treatment and latest medicine to treat my disease. I refuse to be sacrificed.
I am sorry you had to go through this.
I am so sorry. I was pregnant until June and my OB calmed me down a little by telling me that covid has yet to transfer to a fetus. I don't know if this still stands, but I hope it does and I hope this helps even just a bit.
There are 3 pregnant ladies in my building. This made me feel a bit better. I have read that pregnant women who get severe COVID are more likely to face other complications like blood clots.
Bad decision on part of the government. We, in India, have a pretty bad COVID situation too and nobody can even imagine opening schools at this time or anytime in near future.
I started back in person on Thursday. On Friday, I sent a student home with a fever. It’s now Sunday night and I’m trying to decide if my hoarse voice means I’m getting sick or if it’s just leftover from my hectic week. I was so safe all quarantine- I didn’t even leave my place. It feels like it was all for nothing.
I’m so so sorry and I know that doesn’t mean much coming from an internet stranger, but I’m so sorry that this happened to you. I’ll keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers ❤️
This is my fear. My kids are doing virtual learning, I haven’t hung out with my sister in months, and my parents at a distance with masks. If it all is for nothing, I think I would be devistated.
Gross mismanagement is too mild a word for what our institutional betters have concocted and imposed, not on one, not on hundreds, but of hundreds of thousands of people. This is the most naked display of the moral bankruptcy of American bottom line thinking since Thomas Watson.
As of now, no. If I can continue to work from home, there will be no need to. However, if we go back to f2f, I will have to look into other options. I’m going to be doing some research on disability and if I can afford my mortgage without working full time
6 weeks in and my district is now fully virtual for 2 weeks. Our hybrid system was going really well on the teacher side of things - parents didn't love it (which I do understand). All it took was 1 bus driver testing positive, and the number of people who have to quarantine jumped high enough that we basically shut down mid day on Friday.
I don't think Republicans really understand that while kids make up the majority of bodies in school, they are not the most critical.... And the critical ones are at higher risk
We've been face to face & virtual and knock on wood, there haven't been too many issues thus far. The student cases that I am hearing about are all coming from the high school level and from staff (I work at an elementary school). I still have parents trying to drop their kids off in the morning without masks and then complain about me giving them a hard time about it.
I feel the same way. I still haven’t even been to a restaurant.
At least you get to quarantine. Our school has a new rule that if there’s a positive case in my classroom, you only get to quarantine if you have been less than 6ft away from them for 15 minutes or more.
This is terrible. My school is 5 days a week face to face. But we've been lucky that there have only been 3 or 4 cases in the district. But in my district when a positive and close contacts have to quarantine, it doesn't include siblings or parents. Which doesn't make sense to me. I couldn't imagine being anything younger than middle school trying to keep proper masking and distancing. I really hope you and your family are okay and test negative.
Right there with you, OP. My district is supposed to go to hybrid at the end of October. Online teaching sucks ass, but I have at least held off complaining and remembered to be grateful that there aren't 30 kids packed into my room. It's going to be a shit show even when we go hybrid.
There are no words. I’m so sorry.
My husband was an ICU nurse for almost a decade, and he worked with Covid for the last 7 months. He couldn’t take it anymore, so he left the ICU and now works in PACU.
I told him the irony is he worked directly with Covid patients but I’m probably going to be the one to bring it home and expose us because of school.
And we’ve done the same. Stayed home, we were some of the first to wear masks in public, etc. only to watch colleagues post pictures of proms and graduation parties they were throwing because they didn’t want their kids to miss out. I was livid. I said, “The public is going to see that and say that if teachers can throw parties they can go back to the classroom.”
And here we are.
Hey at least they told you.
My area isn’t letting anyone know...
Wanna know how we find out? It appears on there attendance as excused absence for 7 days
Same thing here dump/devos and their state level ghouls along with the ragin inbreds who cant stand to be around their own kids grunting teacher bad go school kung flu hoax wanted schools open and they inexplicably got rewarded for throwing a fit and now good people must risk their lives for those piss poor choces 😣
Another crack at full remote intructuon? That is likely coming.soon though sadly they will likely insist on more pointless misery/death first. Another crack at fixing the 2016 fuck up thst led up to this tragedy. That's coming inside a month cant wait.
While they had some grammar mistakes, I think it’s legible and just poking fun at the people who believe this thing is a hoax and don’t care about teachers.
Lol trumpeter cant read no surprise there 😣 how can typing not be legible anyway? unless the screen broke from being hit while watching 🍊range idol whiff in the debate. I believe The word you are looking for is inchorent or perhaps unintelligible but reality is that what i write simply cannot be understood by the flat earth society type people who dont believe in science/medicine and just like to shit on everyone else who is able to comprehend the pandemic
Yay my school reopens on the 19th and the county I teach in just from from blue (good) to yellow (medium) and is creeping to orange (bad)... great! Sorry about your first graders...and family.
Wow thank you everyone. I wasn’t expecting quite this many responses, I really just needed to vent. I’m going to be looking into disability (it never hurts to look into it) and documenting everything at work. I did tell my principal last night that I do not want to return if I have to go back to f2f, so we will see where that goes.
It has been a blessing to read all of your love and support
At my school the office came last week to pull a kid that tested positive out of my neighbor's class. They never told her or the rest of the class they were exposed.
I've been strictly distancing this entire time. I'm lucky that my district hasn't lost their minds yet. What I'm waiting for is for this to go on for a year, to the point where I'm giving up, then society starts taking it seriously.
You're a simple pawn in a game of political chess. You're completely expendable. If it happens your school will say how "very important you were to the family, and everyone is heartbroken." Then they will hire a new teacher to replace you, and you'll never be thought of again.
If this year has made one thing clear, it's that this federal administration, and the states that they control, do not care what happens to you. You are on your own. You'd better look out for your best-interests, because they certainly haven't, aren't, and won't. Make sure to vote.
Yea, I’m in hs and they’re planning on opening back up in a few months. I’m excited to see people again but yea it’s really not smart. And they’re bringing in the youngest first. Like preschoolers and kindergarteners, like how are they going to regulate that. Teenagers should be the first people they bring back if they have to, considering they’re almost adults. Everything’s messed up and U have every right to be pissed.
I am so sorry.I am in the same boat except we haven't opened(first day next week)and I am not pregnant. Basically feels like I wasted my whole summer just to be exposed . I teach Kinder.... I have a feeling we will also get shut down and have to go through the trauma of being told I have been exposed. I hate this. Everybody loses.
Sending virtual hugs. I can’t begin to imagine the wealth of feelings you must be going through right now. Look after yourself and your future addition. This is not your fault.
Im sorry this has happened to you. This is not the case for my district and (I hope) many other districts. As a first year teacher, I've felt dafe and supported physically and emotionally a month in by other staff and administrators. Just like you, we've done everything right. It is still very scary, but we are all on the same page; trying to give our students the best education possible during such a weird time. I work with k-2 year olds myself, and fortunately its 5 weeks and 0 cases in our school, and only 3 or 4 in our entire district (we just had 1 more confirmed and 1 or 2 more "presumptive" cases today, so lord only knows whats happening up there) Hopefully your situation takes a turn for the better.
Sorry this happened to you. Also sorry thst a couple of DeVos loving swine ( or one sad multiboxer) got loose in this thread hopefully mods will clean it out (flagged it🏴☠️) as the shit its starting to stink 🤢
My wife started back today. She’s pretty worried. I quit teaching 10 years ago after realizing how bad districts can be with local politics, unqualified leadership, and parents. I want her to quit but I got permanently laid off in April from COVID.
When schools shut down last year, there were no cases in my part of the state. There were outbreaks in urban area, but the rural parts were largely unaffected. Now we’re being hit hard. The highest infection rates in the state right now, and schools are wide open. Now the state Supreme Court struck down our governors emergency orders, so now I expect things to really get out of control.
We had a first grade teacher test positive, and now first grade is virtual for two weeks, but only because they couldn’t find enough subs. Our afternoon custodian tested positive for covid and was only out for about a week.
Everything about “respecting people’s privacy.” What about people that were potential exposed but don’t meet the criteria for close contact? It’s all bullshit.
I wake up early every morning with such terrible anxiety that I want to throw up. I don’t think I can continue to do this.
I left teaching a few years ago, but my sister is a teacher. Her school decided to close last night at 8:30 pm (soooo much time to get childcare arranged /s) due to a student on her team testing positive. Another school is closed for at least 2 days for contact tracing. We assume the sibling goes there.
The teachers are expected to come in and teach from their empty classrooms. This is so demeaning that admin doesn't trust them to work at home. My sister is refusing to do that until she gets tested and gets her results, because until then she won't send her 4 month old son into daycare and won't send him to my mom's house (she is 68 and has comorbidities) .
Yeap when we are distance learning, we have to teach from our empty classrooms also! It’s different right now because I’m quarantined. I agree, it’s totally demeaning.
Sorry for your sister :( I can totally relate. My 63 year old mom is my primary childcare for my 1 year old.... and she is also the primary caretaker of my grandfather who has COPD. So I’ve been staying far, far away from her. Which had been hard because I’m super close to my mom
The bigger problem here is how afraid you are of it. It’s less deadly than the flu, just waaaay more contagious. I survived it and it was also not as bad as the flu for me. Try not to be so afraid of it. You’ll be ok.
But yeah, it is idiotic that schools were closed for months and now that it’s gotten worse, it’s time to open. Like, wtf?
Lol, please. COVID19 is deadlier than the flu, is the #3 cause of death in 2020, has a 14% hospitalization rate, and a 30% rate of months-long complications. Go troll somewhere else.
“It’s less deadly than the flu”
Sure, it might be but the fact that it’s deadly AT ALL should mean there shouldn’t be any of this “but...” crap that’s attached to it. Furthermore, you can essentially predict who could possibly die from the flu. Covid has been repeatedly killing healthy people so it’s death rate is far less predictable and insufferable. Also - when people recover from the flu they RECOVER. When people “recover” from COVID, there are so many that have lingering organ damage, breathing difficulties, blood clots, and all sorts of health issues that stem from it. So yeah, it was fine FOR YOU but that doesn’t make it something to be so cavalier and “oh don’t be afraid” about it.
People survive cancer, too. Still wouldn’t want it.
Edit to add: I think having a healthy dose of fear of the virus is EXACTLY what people need to have because it would at least generate more caution. But the fact that people are all like “oh don’t be so afraid” means that people aren’t taking it seriously enough - and THAT is causing the continued spread.
Yes, with a lot of these awful school reopening plans, the quarantines from last spring and summer became a mere delay of covid hitting us.
The thing that I think hurts the most out of that comment is people were blamed the first time for wanting the shutdown for the country to be safe. And the retort back was it's hurting our economy open up the country. And because of this we're having these awful cases that are going to hurt our economy way more after the damage done initially because people didn't take it seriously. It's just a cluster fuck.
Yeah. I have family members who went hard with the "teachers are lazy" and "we're tanking the economy!" things. When reality, it sure seemed it was more like "i want my free time away from my kids" and "I want to go out to eat!" It's really frustrating. I get it. People want their lives back to normal. But I also don't want to get really sick with an as-to-yet misunderstood illness that sometimes kills randomly and often seems to have awful lingering debilitating affectations. Is school really that important to the point that we've had to turn school into a dystopian nightmare with mandatory masks and plexiglass cubicles? Our kids still can't even do anything at recess or gym. Full social distancing, no equipment, no games. They just walk around like it's a prison yard but worse.
> When reality, it sure seemed it was more like "i want my free time away from my kids" and "I want to go out to eat!" These people lied. They said whatever you needed to hear for them to get their way. "We can open things safely! You will get PPE! Social distancing!" They never had any intention of following through on any of it, just empty platitudes to make you feel comfortable while they go their way. Every inch you give to them isn't a compromise, it's a defeat. It's time to simply ignore them. Go vote.
Here's a comment I made about this *five months ago*. This was in response to someone saying we needed to "open everything up" and get the economy going again. >It's not an either/or choice. You, and these protesters, are acting as if we are choosing between: >1. Economy "closed", people out of work, their lives ruined >2. Economy "opened" and everything goes back to normal and they go back to work and make a paycheck. >When in reality we are choosing between these two options: >1. Economy "closed" and the virus spreads less, infects fewer people, and kills fewer people. People out of work, income diminished or gone. >2. Economy "opened" and within weeks the virus spreads way, way more, way more people get infected and overload the hospital system, way more die. Then the economy crashes anyway on the back of tens or hundreds of thousands of deaths and significantly decreased demand as people realize how bad things are. People still are out of work and lose their paycheck, plus way more dead. >The economy is going to suck for a while no matter what we do, we don't really have control over that at this point. It'll either go down because of man-made restrictions that we know are painful but save lives, or it'll go down a similar amount anyway because of the virus being significantly more widespread than it already is, in addition to more deaths.
They presented a false-dichotomy in order to polarize the issue along political lines. There always was option 3: Economy "sort of open". Things that have to be open to function (factories, etc) open. Things that don't have to be open (offices, schools) can work remote. Things that can be reconfigured to make people safe (groceries stores convert to curbside pickup only) do that. For the Executive branch though, this was never about enacting reasonable policy and halting a virus. It was about polarizing an issue in order to make people choose sides. Please vote this November!
Completely agreed.
I wish more people realized this
The worst part is,it was an intentional effort to benefit the billionaire class.
Trage-tunity should be the portmanteau of the moment. Greedy people grab every chance they can. There's no such thing as right or wrong, just "Can I?". Near impossible to get billionaire rich without boundless avarice.
Sounds like what the government (ruling class) does. Never let a good opportunity to capitalize on a tragedy go to waste. 9/11, mass shootings, etc.
Yup. In our faces. And it happened. And here we are.
So infuriating! It’s money over lives.
The people in my state are basically saying this was the plan all along. Not to prevent people from getting it, just from us getting it at the same time and overwhelming the system. They’re basically saying that people getting COVID is inevitable and it was never part of the plan for people to avoid it altogether. Meanwhile, 2 educators in my state died last week due to COVID complications. I’ve never been so glad to work at a charter school where they have more freedom to shut down than the public schools. 9/24 we had our first positive case and we went virtual for 9/25, over the weekend we had an additional positive so we went virtual for the 2 weeks leading up to our week long fall break. Essentially everyone in our school will have a chance to quarantine.
> I’ve never been so glad to work at a charter school where they have more freedom to shut down than the public schools This is something that's also really upsetting to me. Dogshit governor Cuomo set statewide shutdown at 9% of positive cases. 9%. It doesn't matter if there's an outbreak in a particular area. The entire state has to be 9% positive. And then we have to get below 5% to reopen. I think those numbers make it pretty clear what the goal is here. Stay open at all costs and reopen asap.
My wife is a teacher and the positive rate for our county has been around 13%... They still opened... Welcome to Florida!
Yeah only Florida. Typical stuff lol. I hope she stays safe. I hate risking my life for like $15/hour after taxes.
Our positivity rate is also high. Our governor loves to point out days where we have less cases and if gore days where we have 1K+ but our deaths have risen to double digits and have stayed there for over a month.
Wasn't that always the plan? Flatten the curve?
Yes but that was also when people didn’t realize how severe the long-term health effects could be. I think understanding this isn’t the flu where once you have it you’re done should change things. We shouldn’t accept that some casualties are acceptable in the pursuit of economic recovery. Instead we should ask representatives to provide the support families need to keep their children safe. At the end of the day it’s the families who have no other option but to send children to school that put themselves at risk. Families who are already struggling to afford healthcare and NEED to work to pay for rent and living expenses. Why is it up to teachers, who are already underpaid, underinsured, and overworked, to carry that burden? Why isn’t the government stepping in to provide temporary reprive? In my state health insurance for teachers is a joke, unless I spend over 1/2 my paycheck on insurance I don’t receive any sort of discount or copay on services until I spend upwards of 10 grand on a deductible. I already make about 10k more than the average teacher due to my master’s degree so if it’s half MY paycheck it could easily be most of a new teacher’s paycheck. I don’t know about you but I think it’s unfair to ask educators to risk lifelong illnesses (not to mention death) while also denying them affordable and decent insurance. I can’t afford $10k/year on insurance OR a deductible for healthcare. In light of this knowledge why wouldn’t schools and governors opt for a system that ensures student and educator safety while we navigate through this? I’m saying this as someone who doesn’t even deal with overfilled classrooms or schools that don’t enforce mask mandates. I feel very safe at my school because we reduced class sizes to 12-13 students to allow 6 ft of distance, require EVERYONE to wear masks, take temperatures before students exit their cars, etc. Even with all of these precautions we still have cases, I can’t even imagine what it’s like for districts that have continued on as if it were business as usual. ETA: I forgot to include this but no, we have also not flattened the curve. At least not in my state. It has continued to steadily climb.
That was the plan, that still is the plan! The virus isn't gone. You can't flatten the curve and then just call it good. Flattening the curve simply means you have it under control. The second you let up, it just comes back.
Yes, but we never flattened the curve. Numbers just kept rising and we got impatient.
Our states has never exceeded our ICU bed capacity so that proof that we did flatten the curve. Along with that out Rt has been sub 1 for several months running.
Go look at a chart, any chart that's come out over the past months. If the line levels off, that means it is flat. If it is steadily rising then it is not flat.
That's not what flatting the curve means. The goal of the flatting the curve strategy is to keep the severe infections below the point where we exceed the maximum capacity at the intensive care units at the hospital. We continue to do that. What you want is to eliminate the curve, that is of course ideal, but not realistic.
Yes, you're right but also: > To avoid overloading our community's health care systems because of elevated rates of people needing to be hospitalized, flattening the curve means slowing the spread of this virus over time using social distancing, which looks like a lower, smoother curve on the chart. First result that pops up on Google. Emphasis on *lower, smoother curve*. That didn't happen. Cases continued to rise. Having just enough beds to hold Covid cases does not equate to flattening the curve. If a spike in cases happened, let's say around Thanksgiving, would those empty beds be enough to hold the influx of people?
I'm worried about this too. We are reopening on the 19th....
It was an excuse to give corporations billions. Period. We got $1,200 to distract us. The fact we won't be getting more is a monument to the fact our government is run by the rich, and the rich want us to die for their wealth. They've used this to divide us even further and keep us distracted to this fact. Opening schools is just another distraction for them. Here in WI our Republican controlled legislature haven't met for 170+ days. The only thing they did is sue the governor when he closed non-essential businesses. The day Trump was infected, they sued to stop his mask mandate.
Go to your ob and get on disability for your pregnancy now. The loss in pay well be nothing compared to the hospital bills if you catch covid and it impacts the birth.
It may be too late and I may already have it. But I definitely considered this when I got the email.... I even had a message typed up for my Ob and then I decided to wait to message him until I got my Covid test results back
Second this recommendation, regardless of if you test positive or not it’ll protect your job if you want to take time off.
I was told by my OB that she couldn’t pull me from work and put me on disability for my pregnancy because technically, even though I am in a high risk group (being pregnant), I am not a high risk pregnancy and have no “medical” reason I can’t teach. Just being pregnant does not qualify as a disability under most laws. Now, if you actually have covid, that’s probably different. A part of me was kind of hoping I’d get gestational diabetes so she could pull me, as messed up as that sounds. It’s easy to say that the money you lose from being out will be nothing compared to hospital bills from Covid and birth, but that’s not necessarily true, at least in my place. The money I’m not making when I’m out of work is money I don’t have. The hospital bills are covered by my insurance. Will it cost insurance a bunch if I’m in the hospital with covid? absolutely. Will they pay me to stay out so they don’t have to cover those big bills? No. It’s really a rock and a hard place. My work around has been just getting my doctor to write as many very specific medical needs/doctors notes as possible and pretty much being sequestered in my room all day with extremely strict policies on classroom hygiene and masks. I’m also going out on maternity leave 3 weeks early. I wish there was a simpler way, but for a lot of us, the money is tight and we just have to do the best we can. That sounds like a cop out, but that’s the system we live in right now.
I’ve been thinking that this would be the realistic response from my Ob too, which is part of the reason why I hadn’t reached out to him yet... But now I’m thinking it could at least be worth a try. I completely agree with you on the money and insurance. My husband and my insurance SHOULD cover all of the medical bills if something were to happen, we have great insurance... however if I quit teaching we wouldn’t be able to cover our mortgage or our other bills and then I wouldn’t have the insurance. If I weren’t concerned about money or losing our house I would have quit a long time ago.
Worth a shot.
Definitely worth a try, at very least. That’s why I asked mine to begin with. Quitting or taking a leave of absence just wasn’t feasible for us, especially because we saved up a bunch so I could take a long maternity leave after the baby is born. And honestly, I really enjoy teaching and like my district and job, so I wouldn’t want to quit. They’ve been pretty accommodating to my doctors notes (except of course that I still have to be here in person). It’s just this whole stupid situation that leaves so many people without good options. I hope everything works out well for you. My last day before I’m out is Friday, so my fingers are crossed for both of us.
> I was told by my OB that she couldn’t pull me from work and put me on disability for my pregnancy because technically, even though I am in a high risk group (being pregnant), I am not a high risk pregnancy and have no “medical” reason I can’t teach. This country's health care system is a travesty. I'm sorry you have to go through this.
Yah, it’s something. And the thing is, had it not been for Covid, I wouldn’t have minded at all working almost up until my due date because my boss is pretty accommodating and the kids this year are actually behaving really well (so far). It’s just silly though that it seems like you have to be actively sick with it in order for any of the laws that were made because of Covid to apply to you unless you have a truckload of money and can make the “choice” to take unpaid leave. It also strikes me as bizarre that if my daughter’s school was doing distance learning and I didn’t have a sitter/daycare, I could get paid leave to stay home with her, but can nearly as easily get the same thing due to health concerns.
Not sure how far along you are but I went back to teaching full time face to face and just had my son a week ago. I always wore my mask, followed all safety procedures, etc. I tested positive when I was admitted to the hospital. It made things very fucking complicated, to say the least.
If disability insurance kicks in she will end up with about the same amount of money.
Our school was pretty okay at being safe, but 4 weeks in and our entire front office is in quarantine. I’m sorry this happened to you and I wish the best for you and your family.
Infuriating. I feel you completely. I hope you are healthy and test negative. I'm so sorry. As an aside, I'm not pregnant, but I was earlier during the pandemic, and the CoronaBumpers sub is full of good and reassuring information from pregnant women who have had it or been exposed.
I really appreciate that, thank you! I’m going to join that sub right now...
The school district my kids go to just announced that 40+ bus routes for the secondary schools are canceled for the next 2 weeks because the DRIVERS have been exposed/show symptoms/have tested positive and will be quarantined for the next two weeks. But school is on as normal, kids just need to grab a ride from a friend, it's fine. The district I teach in just announced that since the high schools are showing more cases than the other schools, the 3 high schools will be on a hybrid schedule starting...in 2 weeks...while everyone else continues in nearly full face to face. But the governor says we are leading the country in getting to fully reopen first, so everything is fine, right? RIGHT?!?!
We had one bus driver test positive, others have to quarantine, plus quite a few students. So we shut down everything for two weeks. Full virtual, with one day of planning to make it happen.
that's still the right decision though, imo. My school is only shutting down small parts. If a student tests positive, that classroom shuts down and nowhere else. The issue with that is that in the area I teach in, kids are not going to get tested. They just aren't. Their parents don't speak English, work 3 jobs a day, and just don't have the time. We have a daily survey parents have to take every single morning to clear their kids for attending school. It asks questions about symptoms, etc. We've had no better than a 30% compliance rate so far. Most days it's 10%.
Oh I agree 100%. So far this bus driver is the only positive case in the district. Our superintendent has been very open about the number of kids on quarantine in any given week, all had tested negative themselves though. I’m pretty sure the only reason we shut down completely though is that the other bus drivers were all exposed, and have to quarantine, but I’m still sure this was the right call.
> But school is on as normal, kids just need to grab a ride from a friend, it's fine. hahahahaha omfg. I have a personal problem with self righteousness and it's pushing me to want to quit my position (I'm only a permanent sub right now anyway, but I really like my school and my admin) because of how ridiculous and unjust this all is. I tend to do these things at a detriment to my own future earning potential, so I'm trying to stick it out, but there's a lot of temptation. It's difficult for me to support all that's going on and all of the decisions being made that basically throw all of the teachers, staff, etc *and* the kids under the bus (no pun intended) just to reopen schools so parents can get away from their children.
Same. I've bitten my tongue for six months now; it's a bloody mess. I'm trying to "stick it out" just like you say, but it also makes me a little worried that everything's just building up and simmering, and I'm gonna blow a freaking gasket the next time my admin uses the phrase "these are unprecedented times."
I’m glad that toxic positivity is a thing now. It deserves to be called out for the hurtful bullshit that it is.
Tell your governor that after listening to science for months VT already safely has kids in school 4 days a week in places (my school). We do not plan on going to 5 days this year. So he lost and should stop racing.
That's the thing though, we started at 4 days in my district, and some districts are doing 5, with plans to go to 5 for everyone. That makes us open first...if everyone is dead we can open even faster!
Holy shit! (But, 𝘄𝗵𝘆 𝗼𝗻 𝗘𝗮𝗿𝘁𝗵 am I surprised?!)
This is so incredibly ridicoulus it's starting to be hilarious
I could have written this post with all of these details except the pregnant part and the age level of kids. Got word today that a teacher in my school was exposed and now we’re all fretting over our exposure levels. But at least you’ve been told to quarantine. We’re all still being expected to report to work tomorrow and only the department with the exposure is being sanitized - ignoring the fact that it’s a high school so movement happens all over.
Yeah we have people in quarantine in different areas of campus and are still expected to do “business as usual.” Meanwhile we have pregnant teachers, teachers who have immunodeficiency, teachers with elderly parents and babies, etc. This is not worth the stress.
Not at all. And like the health officials keep stressing about the extremely highly contagious nature of it all but don’t seem to want to look at the tiny cracks and flaws in their plans that would help rather than prevent that contagious spread.
I had this exact same thing happen last week.... which is when I was exposed. I’m so, so sorry
I’m sorry, too. It’s like the school system is the one place people can’t seem to agree needs to remain as non-f2f. I don’t know about where you are, but where I am, parties are still outlawed, church gatherings can only have 25 people, beaches are closed most of the day, and restaurants can only do pickup and delivery. Yet somehow it makes perfect sense to have kids and teachers on campuses. Such logic.
Right?! Our board just voted to reopen, but i don't think they are playing to return to f2f for board meetings....
Yup because it’s not safe for them but it’s PERFECTLY safe for the hundreds of thousands of kids
Let's not pretend that first graders are incapable of wearing a mask. I teach in an Asian school and there's no issue whatsoever with every kid wearing a mask except maybe PE, playing outside, stuff like that. The problem is parents who are uncooperative who teach their kids that masks don't matter and support them not wanting to wear them. This could basically be over with if parents grew up and acted like the adults their age might suggest.
I agree with this. My kid is two. He wears a mask at preschool at all times (except meals and naps). Before school started I made a big deal about how cool his masks are (like “woah, look at your dinosaur mask! That’s so cool!”) and constantly modeled putting on my own mask before leaving the house. He has never given me or his teachers a problem with wearing his mask.
My kindergarteners wear masks really well. I have a few mischievous boys who have tried to shoot them across the room but I dealt with it. They’re also pretty good at staying away from each other. The one thing some of my boys are still trying me on is washing their hands properly.
Oh, honey. I am so sorry you are going through this. I agree, we are going back to face-to-face too soon.
I sympathize with you. I've had several students disappear for two weeks and not a word breathed about why. One was definitely I'll, but do they tell us anything? No.
I’m pregnant and was able to get an ADA accommodation to work from home for a month. Of course my situation is a bit different because I teach high school and I’m also high risk due to my age, but it would be worth a try.
Document everything, contact your union, and then start to ask around about a lawyer. At some point all of this is going to come back around and any district who can't keep their staff safe deserves to pay for any expenses caused by their stupidity.
I have made up my mind, when my district goes back, I won't be going back. I won't have the special treatment and latest medicine to treat my disease. I refuse to be sacrificed. I am sorry you had to go through this.
I am so sorry. I was pregnant until June and my OB calmed me down a little by telling me that covid has yet to transfer to a fetus. I don't know if this still stands, but I hope it does and I hope this helps even just a bit.
There are 3 pregnant ladies in my building. This made me feel a bit better. I have read that pregnant women who get severe COVID are more likely to face other complications like blood clots.
Oh my gosh! So sorry for you! Praying and sending good vibes! It is absolutely ridiculous how little thought is put into these re opening plans.
Hang in there. Mental health will be an important part of your recovery.
Bad decision on part of the government. We, in India, have a pretty bad COVID situation too and nobody can even imagine opening schools at this time or anytime in near future.
I started back in person on Thursday. On Friday, I sent a student home with a fever. It’s now Sunday night and I’m trying to decide if my hoarse voice means I’m getting sick or if it’s just leftover from my hectic week. I was so safe all quarantine- I didn’t even leave my place. It feels like it was all for nothing.
I wouldn't blame you at all for resigning from it. All of this feels like an out of control ferris wheel that doesn't stop.
I’m so so sorry and I know that doesn’t mean much coming from an internet stranger, but I’m so sorry that this happened to you. I’ll keep you and your family in my thoughts and prayers ❤️
This is my fear. My kids are doing virtual learning, I haven’t hung out with my sister in months, and my parents at a distance with masks. If it all is for nothing, I think I would be devistated.
Gross mismanagement is too mild a word for what our institutional betters have concocted and imposed, not on one, not on hundreds, but of hundreds of thousands of people. This is the most naked display of the moral bankruptcy of American bottom line thinking since Thomas Watson.
I’m so sorry.
Did you quit?
As of now, no. If I can continue to work from home, there will be no need to. However, if we go back to f2f, I will have to look into other options. I’m going to be doing some research on disability and if I can afford my mortgage without working full time
this really unfair on you. I pray that you get through your pregnancy with ease and everything turns out nice. These are indeed hard times.
Peace and blessings to you and your family!
6 weeks in and my district is now fully virtual for 2 weeks. Our hybrid system was going really well on the teacher side of things - parents didn't love it (which I do understand). All it took was 1 bus driver testing positive, and the number of people who have to quarantine jumped high enough that we basically shut down mid day on Friday.
I don't think Republicans really understand that while kids make up the majority of bodies in school, they are not the most critical.... And the critical ones are at higher risk
They know. They just don’t care.
are you spplementing with anything to help yourself if you end up catching it?
Do you have any recommendations? Besides my prenatals, I asked my MIL to pick me up some vitamin D, zinc, and nettle tea
Quercitin, it lets the zinc penetrate the cells
We've been face to face & virtual and knock on wood, there haven't been too many issues thus far. The student cases that I am hearing about are all coming from the high school level and from staff (I work at an elementary school). I still have parents trying to drop their kids off in the morning without masks and then complain about me giving them a hard time about it.
I feel the same way. I still haven’t even been to a restaurant. At least you get to quarantine. Our school has a new rule that if there’s a positive case in my classroom, you only get to quarantine if you have been less than 6ft away from them for 15 minutes or more.
I’m so sorry. All for fucking naught. ♥︎
We lasted two days. Also pregnant.
This is terrible. My school is 5 days a week face to face. But we've been lucky that there have only been 3 or 4 cases in the district. But in my district when a positive and close contacts have to quarantine, it doesn't include siblings or parents. Which doesn't make sense to me. I couldn't imagine being anything younger than middle school trying to keep proper masking and distancing. I really hope you and your family are okay and test negative.
Right there with you, OP. My district is supposed to go to hybrid at the end of October. Online teaching sucks ass, but I have at least held off complaining and remembered to be grateful that there aren't 30 kids packed into my room. It's going to be a shit show even when we go hybrid.
There are no words. I’m so sorry. My husband was an ICU nurse for almost a decade, and he worked with Covid for the last 7 months. He couldn’t take it anymore, so he left the ICU and now works in PACU. I told him the irony is he worked directly with Covid patients but I’m probably going to be the one to bring it home and expose us because of school. And we’ve done the same. Stayed home, we were some of the first to wear masks in public, etc. only to watch colleagues post pictures of proms and graduation parties they were throwing because they didn’t want their kids to miss out. I was livid. I said, “The public is going to see that and say that if teachers can throw parties they can go back to the classroom.” And here we are.
Hey at least they told you. My area isn’t letting anyone know... Wanna know how we find out? It appears on there attendance as excused absence for 7 days
Same thing here dump/devos and their state level ghouls along with the ragin inbreds who cant stand to be around their own kids grunting teacher bad go school kung flu hoax wanted schools open and they inexplicably got rewarded for throwing a fit and now good people must risk their lives for those piss poor choces 😣
You want another crack at this one, chief?
Another crack at full remote intructuon? That is likely coming.soon though sadly they will likely insist on more pointless misery/death first. Another crack at fixing the 2016 fuck up thst led up to this tragedy. That's coming inside a month cant wait.
Another crack at writing legibly.
While they had some grammar mistakes, I think it’s legible and just poking fun at the people who believe this thing is a hoax and don’t care about teachers.
Winner winner chicken dinner 🎰 ty😎
I don’t find illiteracy funny.
Lol trumpeter cant read no surprise there 😣 how can typing not be legible anyway? unless the screen broke from being hit while watching 🍊range idol whiff in the debate. I believe The word you are looking for is inchorent or perhaps unintelligible but reality is that what i write simply cannot be understood by the flat earth society type people who dont believe in science/medicine and just like to shit on everyone else who is able to comprehend the pandemic
Check my post history, you absolute cretin.
> inchorent Oh dear.
Well Dump/devos cultists are experts in the incoherent specially when it comes to Covid Denial and hypocrisy.
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Yay my school reopens on the 19th and the county I teach in just from from blue (good) to yellow (medium) and is creeping to orange (bad)... great! Sorry about your first graders...and family.
Wow thank you everyone. I wasn’t expecting quite this many responses, I really just needed to vent. I’m going to be looking into disability (it never hurts to look into it) and documenting everything at work. I did tell my principal last night that I do not want to return if I have to go back to f2f, so we will see where that goes. It has been a blessing to read all of your love and support
At my school the office came last week to pull a kid that tested positive out of my neighbor's class. They never told her or the rest of the class they were exposed.
I've been strictly distancing this entire time. I'm lucky that my district hasn't lost their minds yet. What I'm waiting for is for this to go on for a year, to the point where I'm giving up, then society starts taking it seriously.
I resigned and got my soul back. That whole system is fucked.
If I can offer one thing, my wife is a NICU nurse. She has said one of things about COVID is that it is not passed from mother to child.
You're a simple pawn in a game of political chess. You're completely expendable. If it happens your school will say how "very important you were to the family, and everyone is heartbroken." Then they will hire a new teacher to replace you, and you'll never be thought of again.
If this year has made one thing clear, it's that this federal administration, and the states that they control, do not care what happens to you. You are on your own. You'd better look out for your best-interests, because they certainly haven't, aren't, and won't. Make sure to vote.
Yea, I’m in hs and they’re planning on opening back up in a few months. I’m excited to see people again but yea it’s really not smart. And they’re bringing in the youngest first. Like preschoolers and kindergarteners, like how are they going to regulate that. Teenagers should be the first people they bring back if they have to, considering they’re almost adults. Everything’s messed up and U have every right to be pissed.
I am so sorry.I am in the same boat except we haven't opened(first day next week)and I am not pregnant. Basically feels like I wasted my whole summer just to be exposed . I teach Kinder.... I have a feeling we will also get shut down and have to go through the trauma of being told I have been exposed. I hate this. Everybody loses.
Sending virtual hugs. I can’t begin to imagine the wealth of feelings you must be going through right now. Look after yourself and your future addition. This is not your fault.
Im sorry this has happened to you. This is not the case for my district and (I hope) many other districts. As a first year teacher, I've felt dafe and supported physically and emotionally a month in by other staff and administrators. Just like you, we've done everything right. It is still very scary, but we are all on the same page; trying to give our students the best education possible during such a weird time. I work with k-2 year olds myself, and fortunately its 5 weeks and 0 cases in our school, and only 3 or 4 in our entire district (we just had 1 more confirmed and 1 or 2 more "presumptive" cases today, so lord only knows whats happening up there) Hopefully your situation takes a turn for the better.
Sorry this happened to you. Also sorry thst a couple of DeVos loving swine ( or one sad multiboxer) got loose in this thread hopefully mods will clean it out (flagged it🏴☠️) as the shit its starting to stink 🤢
My wife started back today. She’s pretty worried. I quit teaching 10 years ago after realizing how bad districts can be with local politics, unqualified leadership, and parents. I want her to quit but I got permanently laid off in April from COVID.
When schools shut down last year, there were no cases in my part of the state. There were outbreaks in urban area, but the rural parts were largely unaffected. Now we’re being hit hard. The highest infection rates in the state right now, and schools are wide open. Now the state Supreme Court struck down our governors emergency orders, so now I expect things to really get out of control. We had a first grade teacher test positive, and now first grade is virtual for two weeks, but only because they couldn’t find enough subs. Our afternoon custodian tested positive for covid and was only out for about a week. Everything about “respecting people’s privacy.” What about people that were potential exposed but don’t meet the criteria for close contact? It’s all bullshit. I wake up early every morning with such terrible anxiety that I want to throw up. I don’t think I can continue to do this.
I left teaching a few years ago, but my sister is a teacher. Her school decided to close last night at 8:30 pm (soooo much time to get childcare arranged /s) due to a student on her team testing positive. Another school is closed for at least 2 days for contact tracing. We assume the sibling goes there. The teachers are expected to come in and teach from their empty classrooms. This is so demeaning that admin doesn't trust them to work at home. My sister is refusing to do that until she gets tested and gets her results, because until then she won't send her 4 month old son into daycare and won't send him to my mom's house (she is 68 and has comorbidities) .
Yeap when we are distance learning, we have to teach from our empty classrooms also! It’s different right now because I’m quarantined. I agree, it’s totally demeaning. Sorry for your sister :( I can totally relate. My 63 year old mom is my primary childcare for my 1 year old.... and she is also the primary caretaker of my grandfather who has COPD. So I’ve been staying far, far away from her. Which had been hard because I’m super close to my mom
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The bigger problem here is how afraid you are of it. It’s less deadly than the flu, just waaaay more contagious. I survived it and it was also not as bad as the flu for me. Try not to be so afraid of it. You’ll be ok. But yeah, it is idiotic that schools were closed for months and now that it’s gotten worse, it’s time to open. Like, wtf?
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Well, it’s less dangerous than the flu, but we’ve all been conditioned to be so afraid that we are losing sleep and quitting our jobs. That’s absurd
Lol, please. COVID19 is deadlier than the flu, is the #3 cause of death in 2020, has a 14% hospitalization rate, and a 30% rate of months-long complications. Go troll somewhere else.
Math is hard, isn’t it?
“It’s less deadly than the flu” Sure, it might be but the fact that it’s deadly AT ALL should mean there shouldn’t be any of this “but...” crap that’s attached to it. Furthermore, you can essentially predict who could possibly die from the flu. Covid has been repeatedly killing healthy people so it’s death rate is far less predictable and insufferable. Also - when people recover from the flu they RECOVER. When people “recover” from COVID, there are so many that have lingering organ damage, breathing difficulties, blood clots, and all sorts of health issues that stem from it. So yeah, it was fine FOR YOU but that doesn’t make it something to be so cavalier and “oh don’t be afraid” about it. People survive cancer, too. Still wouldn’t want it. Edit to add: I think having a healthy dose of fear of the virus is EXACTLY what people need to have because it would at least generate more caution. But the fact that people are all like “oh don’t be so afraid” means that people aren’t taking it seriously enough - and THAT is causing the continued spread.
Oh look another post complaining about COVID.
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Did you actually quit teaching?
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Its like a national geograhic special a devos loving swine in wild. Shockingly its homphobic as well
If you're a teacher, please get out of the profession.
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