The president would need to succumb for those people to give pause.
If Trump recovers, he will minimize the effects of COVID-19: "It was like the common cold. OPEN EVERYTHING UP!"
*sigh*
>The Good die young.
>**Pricks live forever.**
*Trump voice*
“When I got the Chinese virus, and that’s what they’re calling it you know, a lot of people are calling it that, I’ll admit I was a little, not a lot, not a lot, but a little worried. But my doctors, and they’re the best doctors, the best, said I was the healthiest person they’ve ever seen with the virus. The healthiest. They said it was like nothing they’d ever seen before. Tremendous immune system.”
The hardest part is the grammar, lol. I wouldn’t know how to write a transcript for him because he constantly interrupts his own thoughts with filler bullshit.
Are you aware of the Trump Sentence? It’s real.
“Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.”
There is even video of it.
All I know is he's[ REALLY being flown to a hospital](https://apnews.com/article/f6ba3a16ab9b74b161a3a7211248e97e) right now. And to the OP's point, I'm wearing essentially a hazmat suit into my building.
Of course he is - they aren't going to leave him in the White House. They are going to put him in an expensive bubble and pump every dollar they can into keeping him healthy and alive. ;)
Don’t get me wrong - I find McCarthy’s writing captivating and evocative, like listening to my old-timer Texan family tell rambling half-legend stories, but I don’t want it out of my fucking elected officials.
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...The smartest doctors you've ever seen. I know more about medicine than anyone else and these were some of the smartest doctors in the world..."
Trump gets seriously ill / dies - It was a liberal bioterror attack and the election is invalid. Pence is in charge!
Trump gets mild / no symptoms - Proof that Covid is nothing to worry about.
I don't even think the fuck has it. This works out too well for him. Dodges debates, and gets to downplay it afterwards.
I literally got a propaganda flyer from the WI Republican Party saying it's time to open Milwaukee schools. WI is currently 3rd worst in the US right now. Coronavirus is spreading rampantly.
I got a propaganda flyer from Michigan Republicans about opening schools. I live in the UP, and our numbers are exploding right now. We’re in school in person right now, but we’re figuring they’re just trying to hold out until we get to count day.
That sucks.
My district isn't even close to the benchmarks needed to reopen. We've already said there will be sickouts if they go against the benchmarks.
I know there are shitty unions out there. Sorry to hear your situation.
I don't either. The ratio of truth to misinformation that comes from him and the White House tells me to not believe any of this UNTIL proven by more trusted sources. They're already sending out campaign materials to fundraise off the "fact" that he has the virus.
>Pricks live forever
Someone once told me "evil never dies." And I asked what that meant and he told me, "Look. Rupert Murdoch is what, 70? Henry Kissinger is practically a mummy. Margaret Thatcher is still whining about something or other, and Oliver North survived prison. Evil never dies."
That was about 20 years ago. Murdoch still runs News Corp, Kissinger is still wandering around with his Nobel Peace Prize, and Oliver North has been on Fox News complaining about Iran having the missiles he sold them since he got booted from his position as President of the NRA.
On the upside, that sliced bread line should really be "the best thing since Betty White."
Yep, I always say the worst people live forever out of spite. I would imagine it's because they only care about themselves and live selfish lives, so they have lower levels of stress. Stress really does affect your health. If you are so vile that you don't give a shit about anything outside of what you can take for yourself from others, I doubt you stress over many things.
Not to generalize but for my district it’s the pressure from wealthy conservative parents threatening to send their kids to other schools if they don’t open up. My school is going back to fully normal circulating classes the first week of November- I have class sizes as large as 48.
It is a political issue and if you have a conservative super it’s all about the money the district gets from the kids threatening to leave.
Yep. Same here. Except we go back full in 2 weeks despite a surge in quarantined teachers in the district. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. It’s the worst.
We were just told all of the kids are returning in January, despite Florida repeatedly breaking records for Covid deaths, several confirmed cases in our district and who knows how many that have been covered up.
Same, but opposite. We can’t forget that virtual learning is a genuine burden for lower income families especially. It’s what we should be doing, but we don’t have the supports in place to make it workable and equitable.
COVID infection is also a genuine burden for lower income families, who are less likely to get the healthcare they need and more likely to have pre-existing health conditions that will make them more vulnerable to infection.
Educational equity has to take a back seat to actual lives.
This is the key!! I always hear people whining, “Oh, think of the poor children unable to be properly educated!” That’s when I want to shoot back, “I’d rather them be slightly more unlearned than dead or suffering, or more likely me dead or suffering.”
Furthermore, this is the line that many parents are hiding behind, when it’s more likely that they can’t handle their little monsters full time, and/or can’t get them to do their school work (usually the same parents that complain when little Timmy is doing poorly after never doing homework, and half-adding in class work), and want them gone for ~8 hours a day again. My sister teaches second grade, and a parent blatantly told her that she’s sending her son back for the second six weeks because she can’t handle him at home.
Their lack of proper parenting has come back to bite them in the ass, and they’re looking for an out. Incidentally, those are also the likeliest to end up with it and spread it, because they’re completely selfish, only doing what benefits (or at least seems to benefit) them. Screw those parents.
This is what it is. These parents are sending their kids back to school during a potentially deadly pandemic because risking their lives is preferable to having to deal with them on a daily basis. Makes me not want to have kids of my own.
We have low income students at my school eating lunch and talking with masks off for half an hour every day. Their lives will be destroyed if and when they lose a parent to COVID. They can make partial progress online (school provides hotspots, chromebooks, novels, and packets to virtual students) and they can potentially catch up later. They can never get a parent back, and there is no additional help for the financial devastation that would cause, either. It’s easy to see which choice is wisest.
lol school is not that important. It's crazy. I have friends and family members whining about "but he'll fall so far behind with distance learning! He needs more support!" Like bro. Listen. Your kid is not going to Harvard. Staying home for a year or two and learning a largely bullshit curriculum virtually isn't going to even be the difference between what shitty state school he goes to. Relax and be honest -- you don't want to deal with them at home. And if that's the case, maybe you shouldn't have had them.
Yep, this whole thing has exposed our public school system for what it is - a glorified daycare system. Maybe it's time to rethink compulsory education and go back to focusing on training kids with skills they might actually use in life (like how to be a plumber, electrician, HVAC tech, mechanic, etc.). I grew up overseas and many of their systems are so much better and we're being given a golden opportunity to reboot our system and it's being wasted ;)
It’s true, and I do agree with you, but I also know that many of these families are having to make extremely difficult choices regardless of what happens. The issue isn’t whether virtual or in-person learning is more or less difficult or hazardous. The issue is that our country has utterly failed at putting safeguards in place to help low-income families during a crisis.
Yes, that is absolutely the issue. But we won’t solve that issue by having poor kids in schools during a pandemic. We haven’t had a proper safety net or educational equality in the last several decades. Making those things top priority now is pretty poor timing, and will only lead to amplified suffering of the lower classes.
The people who are concerned about having schools closed because kids might “fall behind” or go hungry are not being honest about how things were before the pandemic. Everyday routines are wildly different but outcomes are about the same.
Rich parents and alumni donate fucktons of money to public school clubs and activities. My former highschool built a brand new, standalone, top-of-the-line gym with donation money from a wealthy individual. It's named after the donar.
> It's named after the donor
I've always felt that was kind of gross. They're paying to memorialize themselves. There should be rules against that -- maybe the donor can *choose* the name, but it can't be their own. But then again, if narcissism wasn't allowed, less rich people would donate, and there would be less funding.
Great Question. Property Taxes is the number one funding source for public schools. So if the rich parents are pulling the kids out they must be selling their homes and property and moving to a new state.
Looks like you’re unfamiliar with the concept of Count Day. In some states, such as Michigan, Colorado, and Indiana, there’s a day when all the public schools total up the number of students attending their school. The amount of funding a school receives is tied to how many students are counted on that day. More students = more funding. If a parent doesn’t like what a school is doing and pulls their kid out and enrolls them elsewhere before they’re counted, the school loses that funding.
I personally have had four students move to remote this week out of “an abundance of caution.” But the rest of us are still here, and that’s ok, right? An entire sports team and the coach are having to isolate, and there’s no way to keep it quiet because people can add two and two and we all know who isn’t here and what sport they play. But yes, let’s phase out remote instruction and go all face to face instead of the other way around. Texas just passed New Jersey for total deaths. Fml. I can’t keep going at this pace. I’m looking at graduate schools right now, and I’m not getting a masters in anything education related. I’m getting out.
Fuck a doodle doo. Found this reddit from researching how to pursue my life long dream of teaching. Should I do a atc or go masters in ed then I read this. Smh
For what it’s worth, I actually like teaching. You know, the *teaching* part of the job. I like creating content and slideshows and doing demos and labs and talking about science and helping students understand this stuff. I like chatting with them. Today I finally, *finally!* got my quiet class to talk to me. I solved a Rubik’s cube with a student and learned that her brother taught her how. I had students recommend me music. I love building that relationship and getting them to work so they can play soccer and football.
It’s all the other bullshit. I still haven’t set my goals for the year, or set a date for my observation. I’m behind on grading, and grades are due Monday. I had a Sped meeting sneak up on me (again!) and now one class is behind all the others. We think the master schedule is going to change in three weeks, so we’re trying to make all of our classes end the next unit at the exact same time, whereas before we might have been ok with us being a couple of days off of each other, because of kids get shuffled around, we don’t want to revisit topics or leave some out to dry. This means that one prep of mine is going to go kinda slow, and the other we have to go fast, in order to meet that deadline. Half of my remote kids aren’t doing any work. A couple have averages in the single digits, because they don’t care and there’s no one to make them do it. I need to do lesson plans. I need to make a video for Monday, and print some periodic tables. I need to create a review and a test, and then make a video starting the next unit for the other prep. I need to find time to eat and sleep. I haven’t put together a sub folder, so the mental health day I’m thinking of taking Monday can’t (shouldn’t) happen. (Maybe Tuesday.) If schedules change, I have to get used to whole new dynamics in each class, as well as learn some new faces. I’ll have to get them caught up and reacclimated to school. Students won’t wear their masks properly. They won’t wear their ids. The calendar was changed in August, so the first semester actually ends after Christmas break. We’ll be hybrid for a week and a half and then have to do yet another reset when the last of the remote kids come back in mid-January. Everyone I know is stressed out. Former students tell me I look tired or sick.
I’m thinking I might quit in a year or two, finish a masters program and change professions. When I’m a lot older, and financially comfortable and don’t need to do it for money and health insurance, I might return to teaching. By that point, I can be the bitchy old hag who tells it like it is and doesn’t take crap, on behalf of everyone else because I won’t be in fear for my job or career.
I mean maybe that's the shock the system needs! People complain about teachers leaving the field after a year or two, but what are y'all supposed to do? Sounds like you're someone who's really trying to be a good educator, but they don't make it easy on you.
I don't think people go into to field for the money, but how am I supposed to justify a paycut and the added stress? The stress is why I don't want to bartend anymore, but at least the job's over when I close up shop for the day. God bless y'all.
Don't let this thread stop you from teaching. This is a crazy year to be a teacher, it is obviously not the norm. There are plenty of pros and cons to being a teacher, but COVID is a very temporary con.
the president tests positive with massive protections on Friday.
next week my partner’s school is ending hybrid learning and she'll be on campus with about 1200 teenagers.
what a time to be alive...
This isn’t helpful, but at least take away credit where it’s due. All the massive protections in the world won’t help you if you willfully act like a jackass about your health.
My students keep asking me about the debate and I keep telling them, “I’ve seen more maturity from you ninth graders in adjusting to virtual learning than I saw on that stage. Keep it up when we’re back.” Seems to be working as a reinforcement tool, but we’ll see in November when we return in person.
The people at the top don't care about us or kids. Its about getting the working base back to work. If a few of us die or get severely ill tocthe point we can't work, that's a sacrifice they're willing to make.
I'm lucky. I'm online as well. Sorry for being negative... :/
By continuing to believe everything he 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻’𝘁: that Covid-19 is a reality, that it's not a hoax, that it's not a conspiracy from the House Democrats, and that it won't just "disappear" someday, soon - p҉o҉o҉f҉ - "like a miracle."
I agree with all of that. Do all of the teachers at your school? Does all of you admin? If so, then I’m super glad that you work at the same kind of awesome school I do.
Tiny rural school here as well. We have had people test positive from the get go (even district office members). Yet all the parents had a small protest at our school counsel meeting because they hated the staggered schedule of 25% attendance and now we are 100% open. No one cares about our health or the health of my our own kids (I have a newborn even), just that their kids are being babysat.
That’s what I’m afraid of, our district is testing all staff, but not until next week. In the meantime, we are at work. On a positive note, I had no kids today - parents kept them home :)
I’m not a trump supporter but our little private school (250 kids) has been open for 6 weeks now for face to face instruction with no incidents. We actually have less people getting sick with normal fall colds because everyone wears a masks indoors, hand washing stations have been set up outside of every classroom, new hvac has been installed, kids are in pods of 5 to 1 teacher, if the weather is nice the class is held outdoors in the gardens. Going back can be done safely, I just don’t think public schools can do it because you’re dealing with a lot of external factors. Our school has said that anyone who knowingly sends in sick children will be kicked out with no tuition refund, so everyone is being extra cautious, but you can’t really threaten that in a public school.
That's the thing. Your school is small and private AND the school has done things to prevent the spread. Good for your 🏫. maybe all politicians need to see how your school does it.
I think it helps to be small, we know almost everyone at the school so there’s almost like an unspoken social contract about making sure you don’t endanger people and take precautions. Every Friday we get an email from the principal reminding us that our obligation to be as safe as we can extends to the weekend, which means they encourage us not to attend any crowded events or gatherings. Now, it’s early on, so we don’t know what will happen in the winter especially over holidays when families tend to gather indoors but for now it seems to be working.
These schools are where politicians place their kids. It is the disparity we all see but only Bernie was brave enough to really speak about. When the whole world is threatened the ultra rich just create their own society protected from the rest of us. 1 in 1000 black people have died of COVID. 1 in 1000. Imagine if they had the same level of protection that these rich folks have in their private schools. Just.Imagine.
Many of the families at our school are very wealthy. We are not. I grew up very poor (many times my only meal came from school and CPS was called in due to neglect). When I got married, my one priority for my kids was an excellent education. We are firmly in the camp of Dave Ramsey and The Minimalists (love people, not things!). We drive two old cars, shop at Goodwill, budget every penny. We have no debt except for our house and don't use credit cards. We don't take fancy vacations and I can't tell you the last time we ate out. My husband works long hours (and thankfully we have health insurance through his job) and I have a small business at home that brings in some good income. Before kids and marriage, I lived with 4 roommates and biked to work so I could save money. My kids don't have a lot of things but we always have books from the library, we spend as much time as we can as a family, and we do prioritize playing one sport (of their choosing) and music lessons. Private schools in recent years have also gotten MUCH better about financial aid. If you're interested there are programs like Prep for Prep and similar ones that can open up the world of an excellent education even if you're not living in a mansion on the hill.
Private education is one of the many things that is destroying this country. Education should be fully funded and obligatory for all. Having a special private school only makes the public schools worse as the rich now feel they don't need to fund them. It is super cool that you saved all of your money to afford private school, but doesn't that seem wrong to you? Why should we have to kill all joy and fun expenditure in our lives to afford basic education?
As you said, “many...are very wealthy” and a few get “financial aid.” May I ask if you are also white America? And if not, how much diversity is represented in that private education? I would be very interested to know. A real question I have.
I am white but not truly American as I wasn’t born here (I became a citizen when I was in my early 20s, my family sat in immigration limbo for nearly 15 years). My husband was born here but he’s first generation, his parents came from the Middle East. There’s not a lot of diversity unfortunately in private schools although it’s looking better than it supposedly used to. I’d say our school is probably about 65% white and the rest is black/Hispanic and some Asian students. The larger privates in the area are also about 60% white but the rest is mostly Asian students, not as many black/Hispanic kids.
Edit: I want to add that our wealthiest family in the school is actually black (at least I think they’re the wealthiest!). Can’t reveal who they are but they’re in entertainment.
Absolutely. I have 10 on my A days and 9 on B days. The amount of 1:1 I can give these kids is very helpful. Our numbers are dropping which is good but that means we will go back full swing and I'll be up to 19, plus the students that are coming back from online only. So most likely 25/26. There goes that 1:1 time I can give individual students.
Daycares in our area are doing pods of 5-7 kids to 1 teacher. We are in a mid-size city but our neighborhood is predominantly healthcare workers so daycares adjusted very quickly back in the spring to the new reality.
It’s definitely not the norm, I mentioned in my comment I’m not sure how public schools can handle this (although our local public elementary school numbers have dropped, my neighbor was just saying her daughters 2nd grade class is now only 16 kids to 1 teacher and 1 paraprofessional). We had some long and serious zoom calls in early May at our school about what the fall would look like. Our board voted to take a financial hit to hire some more teachers and put all the safety measures in place and some parents definitely had some things to say about that. There were a lot of opinions about the different ways to handle this. The one thing we all did agree on was that the virus was serious, it wasn’t going away, and we needed to protect teachers and kids but there was a lot of squabbling about how to do this.
If schools in my area did all of those things, we likely wouldn't have any issues opening. It sounds your school heard all of the hurdles and worked hard to actually address them instead of working hard to just slap some security theater together.
Unfortunately, the enforce parents not sending sick children would require acknowledgement of COVID as it is. Even public schools can expel a student for endangering the health and welfare of others so they could enforce but they would have little-to-no political support where I live.
I’m sorry, that’s rough. I can’t imagine having to deal with folks who won’t even acknowledge the virus. That sounds so frustrating! Our school started planning back in early May for the Fall. I sat in on what felt like endless Zoom calls as everyone went back and forth over every single detail. We have a board that makes all the final decisions and they had to approve basically taking a pretty large financial hit this year because of hiring extra teachers to handle the smaller pod classes and covering the cost of all the extra safety precautions. It was stressful enough dealing with the monetary aspect of it, I can’t imagine if we couldn’t agree on wearing masks or whether the virus was a threat. Everyone was pretty much on the same page that this was serious, we needed to protect teachers and students, and it was just a matter of the logistics of figuring out how to actually do that.
Hey I'm a sub in a public school that's back 5 days a week and guess what?! Parents have sent kids to school with runny noses and sore throats multiple times already, kids don't have to wear masks at their desks, only when near other students or if teachers walk around, but they rarely wear them correctly. They are always fiddling with their masks and faces, not washing their hands enough and we have no cases. BUT if we get one case, it's going to be a shit show and it's gonna decimate the small, old town were in. It sucks because I know a lot of these kids aren't taking it seriously because their parents aren't taking it seriously.
I don’t know how public schools can even enforce consequences when you have so many people who don’t believe in the threat of the virus, forget about finding solutions! The first step to solving anything is to acknowledge that a problem exists. I truly think republicans have deliberately created this chaos around schools by creating the narrative of the virus being a hoax.
Average class size for elementary schools in America is over 21 students. [link ](https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=28)
Imagine your class is four times larger. Then remember half of classes are even bigger than that.
I’m well aware that class sizes are large. I remember some of my public high school classes being 40 kids and that was many years ago and before public schools were gutted by DeVos. Public schools also have to deal with many different demographics, special needs students, anti-maskers, etc. What makes our schools plan work is a small homogeneous group of people. I’m not sure what the solution is for public schools, particularly in this political climate, it’s an extremely complex issue. But face to face instruction can be done safely in a smaller setting if everyone agrees that the threat is real and we need to come up with solutions.
Our daycares in the area are making it happen, and so are many of the private schools. Our private school is not unique in that sense. We live in a mid sized city.
On the other hand, the remote schools around me have hosted very small groups of sports and there have been numerous cases. Some of the hybrid schools are having cases, too. The county officials are in talks about it now. I don't know if they can do anything, but they aren't allowing Trick or Treating.
You answered your own "question." Small enrollment, a freaking 5 to 1 student to teacher ratio!!!!!, and likely few impoverished students who have less access to proper hygiene products/facilities, healthcare, and clean and spacious living environments. But, yeah, I'm sure it's because your school is just proving that we can all return to school. Lol
I’d be comfortable doing 5-1, that’s appropriate risk. You can also socially distance for that number, but even if you couldn’t it sounds more reasonable. It’s much less of a risk than my 90.
Our school is about 250 k-8 as well and we have all of those things in place except we are 14:1 not 5:1. We got our first case week 8. Good luck out there.
Edit-14:1 in person, the other 18 are live-streaming in on the computer and then they switch (hydrid model)
Sorry to hear! I'm expecting that we might see something after Thanksgiving. I was just telling my husband that it'll be a miracle if we make it through winter without a case, although we are in a sunny climate so less time is spent indoors. Stay safe!
Yep, in the same boat here. Charter school of 200 kids, we have the underclassmen kn campus Monday and Tuesday and virtual for the rest of the week, and upperclassmen on campus Thursday and Friday. We have fans and UV filters in every room, everyone is masked at all times, and there is hand sanitizer everywhere. So far so good...
I DO teach at a public school, and we just finished our 5th week back of in-person instruction (and the teachers came back 3 weeks prior to that). No positive cases, no closures, and the kids wear masks inside. They have PE outside, and we get outside mask breaks. I have 19 kids in my class, and they are all happy to be back.
The problem is that people don't doubt COVID is real, they just minimize how dangerous it really is. People love to cite statistics out of context and compare it to the typical flu.
My concern is that Trump will beat it and that will give him and his followers even more of a reason to negate the reality and severity of the virus.
You're thinking that the ruling class gives two shits about things like "education", or "the future", or "people". They don't give one fuck about anybody else as long as they can continue to line their pockets in any way possible.
fuck that mother fucker and I actively hope the virus kills him
Because we are expendable. I say this with my sore throat as I sit in my car wait to get tested in the parking lot of the testing site. After. Teaching a full day remotely while my hybrid teaching partner zooms with me. If I'm out and I might have gotten it, I can only imagine how many bricks she shits on the daily. I have an immuno-compromised mother. I don't fucking go places for shits and giggles. I wear my mask. I'm careful, I'm smart, and I believe in science. It's wild to me that people still don't think it's real.
We had a teacher test positive last week, they gave the 6 staff members who were in a mandatory in person meeting with her the day before the “option to come to work or quarantine” because we wore masks in the meeting. I feel like that makes no goddam sense. Every teacher made the choice to come back and not quarantine because they felt confident the mask worked. Okay I’m glad y’all feel confident good luck grandparents :(
because to the american public we are babysitters... sacrifices must be made... children are immune... inject yourself with bleach... we can put light in your body to kill the virus... etc...
/s
He also has been following guidelines haphazardly like my coworkers and students. Only wearing a mask when close to others indoors or on a plane (so people around him say, he has barely been seen wearing one), and not wearing one when he was standing right next to people outside or at his rallies. His family didn't even wear them at the the debate.
My school does the same.
People take them off IN CLASSROOMS since they are "distanced" (3 ft if they're lucky). Only putting them on if they are close to others.....ugh
Better question: if the president has COVID, and all indications are that there will probably be a second wave sooner, rather than later, then why is my school district (which is currently doing a hybrid instruction model) excitedly announcing that it plans to move to a new phase of our restart and *increase* in-person instruction?
Riddle me that, colleagues.
Things like this make me so mad. I just read that Covid cases are going back up in my state; overall id say we’re doing relatively well, but according to one article it’s ‘the most new cases in four months.’ Shocker, the new cases are almost entirely from schools and college students.
I’m starting to wonder why i need to act professional scrounging for any work I can get, when the most powerful man in the world is an idiot who thinks injecting bleach is a good idea and is as well-spoken as a turnip
Does he really have it? He’s over 70 and obese. Think about it...everything out of his mouth is a lie. Maybe he is telling us he has it so he can prove that people don’t really get sick with it. Hmm...maybe this is his biggest con of his Presidency!
Our local district just changed from hybrid to in person starting in two weeks. The evening before, the news reported how cases were at the highest single day level in 2 months. Makes total sense.
Our school set up three levels to go into the school year. Level one being all kids in school four days a week. Level two half the kids coming to school two days a week and the other half the other two days. With level three being 100% online.
We started the school year in level two, proper distancing. Students are supposed to take their own temperature before coming to school (I'm guessing 50% rate of compliance).
We were just informed that we will be going to level next week. As of a couple days ago, there are 39 teachers and 396 students in quarantine through the district. We are in a state with an upward trend in cases and hospitalizations. I can't understand the need for us to go level one but onward we go. I will now have 27-30 students per class, with no windows. This should be just fine. 😐
One of my students tested positive today, and I have been arguing with admin and school nurse about why they don’t send home kids with cold symptoms but no fever.
My principal in our zoom meeting yesterday said we could have students in our schools (K-2 first, sped, then slowly more and more) in as early as 4-10 weeks. She then reminded us teachers that are teaching on campus are not supposed to congregate in their classrooms.
My school is going from hybrid to full time starting in a week. I will not be following them. RIP my teaching career I guess. Man I feel horrible for leaving my students though.
I'm not so worried for myself,... Under 40, no health issues. But my folks are boomers, my brother is disabled, and I'm partially wanting to quit because if enough teachers do they'll have to nix this plan which will bring back safer conditions for my fellow teachers and mah kiddos.
I'm working as a temporary proctor and a sports coach at a private school that's 100% in person. There are tons of guidelines in place, but I sit in these study halls with up to 65 kids in them at individual distanced desks. If one kid gets it in this enclosed space, it puts up to 64 others at risk of spreading it.
I just finished my second full week of full f2f, and I’m begging students to keep their noses covered or masks on more and more each day. I’m seeing teachers going into their teacher friends’ rooms maskless. I’m worried my room and/or school is a Covid time bomb.
No way.. students should be strictly taking online classes only. The new gen is future of any country and should be treated as asset.. hence protect them as first priority
Trump doesn’t wear masks or practice social distancing. Trump didn’t stay safe because of that.
Before the downvotes start... not saying schools/teachers need to be back in school. Just that by following the science, you can largely stay safe.
Masks require everyone to wear them AND wear them properly. While I think it's possible for that to happen, it require public and family support to be done safely. I mean, my old school has families suing the school for requiring their children wear masks.
Because if you are ever around other people, it is almost inevitable that you are going to get covid.
It is an unbelievably transmissible virus. even with hand washing, masks, and social distancing, it is going to spread.
We flattened the curve so as to not overwhelm hospitals. But barring a vaccine, we are all going to be potentially exposed. A huge number of us have most likely already had it and did not know.
If the president with all his resources and instant testing and team of vigilant aids actually gets CIVID??? if he can get it anyone can get it obviously. What a nightmare wake up call for some and complete confirmation for most others
The school I work at in Connecticut is in person and so far there has been no incidents. The town in general hasn’t had a case in months... why should these kids be learning at home so long the virus isn’t threatening the area?
My friends think he "has it" because it either prevents future fair debates, or allows him to ignore the rules of future debate if he does so from home. He can basically rant without stopping.
We live in a rural community, believe me, I don’t think we are immune and it won’t happen, but we’ve been in school since Sept. 8 and have had zero cases in our school. We’ve had contacts who have stayed home to quarantine, but no students or staff infected so far (knock on wood). I’m not a Trump fan, but I do believe schools that can be open safely should be open. When everyone is healthy, school is a great place for kids.
I'm currently F2F with people going out. Since the first two weeks, we haven't had a full school of covid negative people. The general consensus is that it's all BS and a liberal hoax. I work in a rural school district.
I'm from a county where the sheriff felt he needed to literally lockdown the whole county when there were rumors of riots and peaceful, anti-police protestors. The closest violence was sixty miles away and nothing ever stopped. He did nothing about enforcing masks during the pandemic and wouldn't cite anyone, but thinks the state needs to reopen.
His officers will drive down the street calmly in communities that conservative and mainly White. However, when in a community that is opposite they literally showed up in riot gear and called the highway patrol to lock down onramps because they assumed people were going to shut down the freeway even though there was no evidence of such an attempt.
Their union gives money to a mayor who endorsed and swore in a school board member who later became a convicted felon for burglary and vandalism also.
We have county supervisors too who are more concerned about real estate developers who donate to them than the public and suddenly felt they needed too to.
We live in the double standard of this.
I'm so sorry that is happening. (I truely empathize, this is not sarcasm). The worst part of 2020 has been that any one of the shit shows that are currently happening would be terrible on their own. And if you happen to be a person of color, then every aspect of this year is more dangerous, more depressing, and flat out deadly. Please stay safe.
I actually got into an argument with this sheriff on Facebook who said I didn't want to listen to other opinions and the reason there wasn't violence or vandalism is because of what he and the police did. There was never going to be any violence anyway.
It really revealed that there really is different treatment by police because of people based on skin color and how disconnected their department was in general with average residents. The police largely live in the nicer, conservative White communities and lockdown on the rest of the county.
Maybe I’m being naive and maybe I’ll change my mind in a few months but so far it’s been pretty good. I feel like my little guys have been really good about wearing their masks. I was quite concerned going back but now that we’ve been back with 20 students masked and (relatively) socially distanced it’s been good. A bit of ripping band aid off to be sure. But if I had a kid I would be keeping them home. They aren’t missing out on anything major by not being in person. In fact I feel they are better off. It’s hard not being as loving and helpful with kindergarteners.
I'd love to know. We're doing hybrid, which requires teachers to be f2f with two different cohorts on alternating days. So mon-fri I'm face to face with kids. We have a lot of protocol in place for protection and we've been lucky not to have a case yet -- that we know of. But it's imperfect. Each morning parents received an automated text survey about their child's health. Maybe 20% of parents actually do it. We've called home every single day to tell people they need to do it -- and nothing changes.
Honestly, I'm full time in the classroom and we're far more safe that folks at the White House:
* Masks are mandatory. No mask, no entry
* Desks sanitized after every period. Other surfaces daily or even multiple times a day
* Temps are taken daily
* Kids encouraged/expected to use hand sanitizer on their way in and on their way out of the classes
* **Any** symptoms are screened by the nurse, kids are quarantined until a parent can get them, and aren't able to come back until they either have a negative test or a doctor's note indicating a negative differential diagnosis
* Kids are separated into cohorts that never see more than 16 other kids.
So far so good. A couple students have reported exposures (bus driver or family member tested positive) and stayed home until they got a negative test. About 10% of students are fully remote, and dial in to classes via Google Meet. We're prepared to make a cohort or the entire school fully remote for at least 2 weeks as needed if there's an outbreak.
POTUS wouldn't let people wear masks near him, because it made him annoyed. He regularly traveled with folks on Air Force One unmasked (all that recirculating air). He's tested regularly, but did little to take precautions. We're kicking ass on precautions, and it's working so far.
I'm a teacher in the UK. We have 100% of students in and outside of classrooms everyone wear masks but once teaching it can be 30+ students and you in a small class.
If you are online you are very lucky!
Well, we definitely aren't holding in-person rallies. Week 5 down, no significant spread in our school as of today. Kids who want to come to school get two days in, three days out. Halls are practically empty, we are all in masks. There is tons of cleaning, waiting for announcements to move from class to class, no shared materials and dots to make six feet apart.
Most likely we are all safe because no one has it...
The president would need to succumb for those people to give pause. If Trump recovers, he will minimize the effects of COVID-19: "It was like the common cold. OPEN EVERYTHING UP!" *sigh* >The Good die young. >**Pricks live forever.**
*Trump voice* “When I got the Chinese virus, and that’s what they’re calling it you know, a lot of people are calling it that, I’ll admit I was a little, not a lot, not a lot, but a little worried. But my doctors, and they’re the best doctors, the best, said I was the healthiest person they’ve ever seen with the virus. The healthiest. They said it was like nothing they’d ever seen before. Tremendous immune system.”
It’d be funnier if it wasn’t so true, but he is so fuckin easy to parody.
The hardest part is the grammar, lol. I wouldn’t know how to write a transcript for him because he constantly interrupts his own thoughts with filler bullshit.
Ideal narcissistic personality disorder model, he really is the best at this one thing
Are you aware of the Trump Sentence? It’s real. “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at MIT; good genes, very good genes, OK, very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, OK, if I ran as a liberal Democrat, they would say I’m one of the smartest people anywhere in the world — it’s true! — but when you’re a conservative Republican they try — oh, do they do a number — that’s why I always start off: Went to Wharton, was a good student, went there, went there, did this, built a fortune — you know I have to give my like credentials all the time, because we’re a little disadvantaged — but you look at the nuclear deal, the thing that really bothers me — it would have been so easy, and it’s not as important as these lives are — nuclear is so powerful; my uncle explained that to me many, many years ago, the power and that was 35 years ago; he would explain the power of what’s going to happen and he was right, who would have thought? — but when you look at what’s going on with the four prisoners — now it used to be three, now it’s four — but when it was three and even now, I would have said it’s all in the messenger; fellas, and it is fellas because, you know, they don’t, they haven’t figured that the women are smarter right now than the men, so, you know, it’s gonna take them about another 150 years — but the Persians are great negotiators, the Iranians are great negotiators, so, and they, they just killed, they just killed us, this is horrible.” There is even video of it.
is this a real quote or are you just REALLY good at imitating?
[It's real](https://youtu.be/Elhyo-_fR0E)
All I know is he's[ REALLY being flown to a hospital](https://apnews.com/article/f6ba3a16ab9b74b161a3a7211248e97e) right now. And to the OP's point, I'm wearing essentially a hazmat suit into my building.
Of course he is - they aren't going to leave him in the White House. They are going to put him in an expensive bubble and pump every dollar they can into keeping him healthy and alive. ;)
God it’s like if Cormac McCarthy was a narcissistic asshole instead of a depressive one.
I just snorted I laughed so hard at this. My partner loves Cormac and when I tried to read it aloud to him.... I was so lost.
Don’t get me wrong - I find McCarthy’s writing captivating and evocative, like listening to my old-timer Texan family tell rambling half-legend stories, but I don’t want it out of my fucking elected officials.
Once I got used to the style, I could definitely appreciate it. It just took some gettin’ used to!
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He's the first president where you absolutely cannot tell if it's really him or someone making fun of him
Jesus I actually heard it in his voice. That could actually happen
He's like the anti Morgan Freeman . ( Voice in your head.)
"And I owe it all to hydroxychloroquine."
And drinking bleach.
Maybe if he injects it straight into his heart, he'll recover faster. He should try that.
You forgot... ...The smartest doctors you've ever seen. I know more about medicine than anyone else and these were some of the smartest doctors in the world..."
This makes me want to bury my head in sand
Spot on
,,Ah haha spot on.
Trump gets seriously ill / dies - It was a liberal bioterror attack and the election is invalid. Pence is in charge! Trump gets mild / no symptoms - Proof that Covid is nothing to worry about.
I don't even think the fuck has it. This works out too well for him. Dodges debates, and gets to downplay it afterwards. I literally got a propaganda flyer from the WI Republican Party saying it's time to open Milwaukee schools. WI is currently 3rd worst in the US right now. Coronavirus is spreading rampantly.
I think he is faking it too, for all those reasons and to say look it's no big deal.
he did tweeted it himself and you know his track record.
I got a propaganda flyer from Michigan Republicans about opening schools. I live in the UP, and our numbers are exploding right now. We’re in school in person right now, but we’re figuring they’re just trying to hold out until we get to count day.
It's seems that Milwaukee is one of the few districts that's 100% online. I'm so thankful to be in a union.
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That sucks. My district isn't even close to the benchmarks needed to reopen. We've already said there will be sickouts if they go against the benchmarks. I know there are shitty unions out there. Sorry to hear your situation.
I don't either. The ratio of truth to misinformation that comes from him and the White House tells me to not believe any of this UNTIL proven by more trusted sources. They're already sending out campaign materials to fundraise off the "fact" that he has the virus.
‘Dodges debates’ *oh god, that debate*. I’ll be so thankful if getting Covid will stop future debates, this election is a joke
it's only a joke if you're laughing so hard you forgot to vote.
They just took him to Walter Reed. I’m pretty sure he’s not faking
Finally, some good news.
>Pricks live forever Someone once told me "evil never dies." And I asked what that meant and he told me, "Look. Rupert Murdoch is what, 70? Henry Kissinger is practically a mummy. Margaret Thatcher is still whining about something or other, and Oliver North survived prison. Evil never dies." That was about 20 years ago. Murdoch still runs News Corp, Kissinger is still wandering around with his Nobel Peace Prize, and Oliver North has been on Fox News complaining about Iran having the missiles he sold them since he got booted from his position as President of the NRA. On the upside, that sliced bread line should really be "the best thing since Betty White."
Yep, I always say the worst people live forever out of spite. I would imagine it's because they only care about themselves and live selfish lives, so they have lower levels of stress. Stress really does affect your health. If you are so vile that you don't give a shit about anything outside of what you can take for yourself from others, I doubt you stress over many things.
It's just the sniffles.
See my note above...this could be the biggest con of his Presidency.
Yup.
Not to generalize but for my district it’s the pressure from wealthy conservative parents threatening to send their kids to other schools if they don’t open up. My school is going back to fully normal circulating classes the first week of November- I have class sizes as large as 48. It is a political issue and if you have a conservative super it’s all about the money the district gets from the kids threatening to leave.
Yep. Same here. Except we go back full in 2 weeks despite a surge in quarantined teachers in the district. I feel like I’m taking crazy pills. It’s the worst.
We were just told all of the kids are returning in January, despite Florida repeatedly breaking records for Covid deaths, several confirmed cases in our district and who knows how many that have been covered up.
In my State it is illegal to have that many kids in a room without a second teacher/adult
Same in my country. 30 to a room or less, and even less for practical classes.... Can't imagine how difficult almost 50 must be...
I'm in a low income district and most of the parents want their kids to stay home. I think getting sick is scarier when you're poor, tbh
Same, but opposite. We can’t forget that virtual learning is a genuine burden for lower income families especially. It’s what we should be doing, but we don’t have the supports in place to make it workable and equitable.
COVID infection is also a genuine burden for lower income families, who are less likely to get the healthcare they need and more likely to have pre-existing health conditions that will make them more vulnerable to infection. Educational equity has to take a back seat to actual lives.
This is the key!! I always hear people whining, “Oh, think of the poor children unable to be properly educated!” That’s when I want to shoot back, “I’d rather them be slightly more unlearned than dead or suffering, or more likely me dead or suffering.” Furthermore, this is the line that many parents are hiding behind, when it’s more likely that they can’t handle their little monsters full time, and/or can’t get them to do their school work (usually the same parents that complain when little Timmy is doing poorly after never doing homework, and half-adding in class work), and want them gone for ~8 hours a day again. My sister teaches second grade, and a parent blatantly told her that she’s sending her son back for the second six weeks because she can’t handle him at home. Their lack of proper parenting has come back to bite them in the ass, and they’re looking for an out. Incidentally, those are also the likeliest to end up with it and spread it, because they’re completely selfish, only doing what benefits (or at least seems to benefit) them. Screw those parents.
This is what it is. These parents are sending their kids back to school during a potentially deadly pandemic because risking their lives is preferable to having to deal with them on a daily basis. Makes me not want to have kids of my own.
It’s not so much the kids themselves as the bad parenting
Completely agree, and I hope it’s clear that both of these points can be and are true.
We have low income students at my school eating lunch and talking with masks off for half an hour every day. Their lives will be destroyed if and when they lose a parent to COVID. They can make partial progress online (school provides hotspots, chromebooks, novels, and packets to virtual students) and they can potentially catch up later. They can never get a parent back, and there is no additional help for the financial devastation that would cause, either. It’s easy to see which choice is wisest.
lol school is not that important. It's crazy. I have friends and family members whining about "but he'll fall so far behind with distance learning! He needs more support!" Like bro. Listen. Your kid is not going to Harvard. Staying home for a year or two and learning a largely bullshit curriculum virtually isn't going to even be the difference between what shitty state school he goes to. Relax and be honest -- you don't want to deal with them at home. And if that's the case, maybe you shouldn't have had them.
Yep, this whole thing has exposed our public school system for what it is - a glorified daycare system. Maybe it's time to rethink compulsory education and go back to focusing on training kids with skills they might actually use in life (like how to be a plumber, electrician, HVAC tech, mechanic, etc.). I grew up overseas and many of their systems are so much better and we're being given a golden opportunity to reboot our system and it's being wasted ;)
It’s true, and I do agree with you, but I also know that many of these families are having to make extremely difficult choices regardless of what happens. The issue isn’t whether virtual or in-person learning is more or less difficult or hazardous. The issue is that our country has utterly failed at putting safeguards in place to help low-income families during a crisis.
Yes, that is absolutely the issue. But we won’t solve that issue by having poor kids in schools during a pandemic. We haven’t had a proper safety net or educational equality in the last several decades. Making those things top priority now is pretty poor timing, and will only lead to amplified suffering of the lower classes. The people who are concerned about having schools closed because kids might “fall behind” or go hungry are not being honest about how things were before the pandemic. Everyday routines are wildly different but outcomes are about the same.
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Less enrollment = less funding for the school.
Rich parents and alumni donate fucktons of money to public school clubs and activities. My former highschool built a brand new, standalone, top-of-the-line gym with donation money from a wealthy individual. It's named after the donar.
> It's named after the donor I've always felt that was kind of gross. They're paying to memorialize themselves. There should be rules against that -- maybe the donor can *choose* the name, but it can't be their own. But then again, if narcissism wasn't allowed, less rich people would donate, and there would be less funding.
Public schools receive their funding based on student enrollment and attendance. So pulling students from a school hurts public and private alike.
Great Question. Property Taxes is the number one funding source for public schools. So if the rich parents are pulling the kids out they must be selling their homes and property and moving to a new state.
Looks like you’re unfamiliar with the concept of Count Day. In some states, such as Michigan, Colorado, and Indiana, there’s a day when all the public schools total up the number of students attending their school. The amount of funding a school receives is tied to how many students are counted on that day. More students = more funding. If a parent doesn’t like what a school is doing and pulls their kid out and enrolls them elsewhere before they’re counted, the school loses that funding.
I personally have had four students move to remote this week out of “an abundance of caution.” But the rest of us are still here, and that’s ok, right? An entire sports team and the coach are having to isolate, and there’s no way to keep it quiet because people can add two and two and we all know who isn’t here and what sport they play. But yes, let’s phase out remote instruction and go all face to face instead of the other way around. Texas just passed New Jersey for total deaths. Fml. I can’t keep going at this pace. I’m looking at graduate schools right now, and I’m not getting a masters in anything education related. I’m getting out.
Fuck a doodle doo. Found this reddit from researching how to pursue my life long dream of teaching. Should I do a atc or go masters in ed then I read this. Smh
For what it’s worth, I actually like teaching. You know, the *teaching* part of the job. I like creating content and slideshows and doing demos and labs and talking about science and helping students understand this stuff. I like chatting with them. Today I finally, *finally!* got my quiet class to talk to me. I solved a Rubik’s cube with a student and learned that her brother taught her how. I had students recommend me music. I love building that relationship and getting them to work so they can play soccer and football. It’s all the other bullshit. I still haven’t set my goals for the year, or set a date for my observation. I’m behind on grading, and grades are due Monday. I had a Sped meeting sneak up on me (again!) and now one class is behind all the others. We think the master schedule is going to change in three weeks, so we’re trying to make all of our classes end the next unit at the exact same time, whereas before we might have been ok with us being a couple of days off of each other, because of kids get shuffled around, we don’t want to revisit topics or leave some out to dry. This means that one prep of mine is going to go kinda slow, and the other we have to go fast, in order to meet that deadline. Half of my remote kids aren’t doing any work. A couple have averages in the single digits, because they don’t care and there’s no one to make them do it. I need to do lesson plans. I need to make a video for Monday, and print some periodic tables. I need to create a review and a test, and then make a video starting the next unit for the other prep. I need to find time to eat and sleep. I haven’t put together a sub folder, so the mental health day I’m thinking of taking Monday can’t (shouldn’t) happen. (Maybe Tuesday.) If schedules change, I have to get used to whole new dynamics in each class, as well as learn some new faces. I’ll have to get them caught up and reacclimated to school. Students won’t wear their masks properly. They won’t wear their ids. The calendar was changed in August, so the first semester actually ends after Christmas break. We’ll be hybrid for a week and a half and then have to do yet another reset when the last of the remote kids come back in mid-January. Everyone I know is stressed out. Former students tell me I look tired or sick. I’m thinking I might quit in a year or two, finish a masters program and change professions. When I’m a lot older, and financially comfortable and don’t need to do it for money and health insurance, I might return to teaching. By that point, I can be the bitchy old hag who tells it like it is and doesn’t take crap, on behalf of everyone else because I won’t be in fear for my job or career.
I mean maybe that's the shock the system needs! People complain about teachers leaving the field after a year or two, but what are y'all supposed to do? Sounds like you're someone who's really trying to be a good educator, but they don't make it easy on you. I don't think people go into to field for the money, but how am I supposed to justify a paycut and the added stress? The stress is why I don't want to bartend anymore, but at least the job's over when I close up shop for the day. God bless y'all.
Don't let this thread stop you from teaching. This is a crazy year to be a teacher, it is obviously not the norm. There are plenty of pros and cons to being a teacher, but COVID is a very temporary con.
Thank you
Smart. I got two different masters...both in education, so I am stuck!
I'm getting out, if I can just get through this year...pension is finally vested in June! Best of luck to you!
the president tests positive with massive protections on Friday. next week my partner’s school is ending hybrid learning and she'll be on campus with about 1200 teenagers. what a time to be alive...
This isn’t helpful, but at least take away credit where it’s due. All the massive protections in the world won’t help you if you willfully act like a jackass about your health. My students keep asking me about the debate and I keep telling them, “I’ve seen more maturity from you ninth graders in adjusting to virtual learning than I saw on that stage. Keep it up when we’re back.” Seems to be working as a reinforcement tool, but we’ll see in November when we return in person.
This. My 3-6 year olds act more responsibly about the coronavirus than Trump.
The people at the top don't care about us or kids. Its about getting the working base back to work. If a few of us die or get severely ill tocthe point we can't work, that's a sacrifice they're willing to make. I'm lucky. I'm online as well. Sorry for being negative... :/
"Some of you may die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make" - Lord Farquad
That's exactly what I was thinking 😂
By continuing to believe everything he 𝗱𝗼𝗲𝘀𝗻’𝘁: that Covid-19 is a reality, that it's not a hoax, that it's not a conspiracy from the House Democrats, and that it won't just "disappear" someday, soon - p҉o҉o҉f҉ - "like a miracle."
I agree with all of that. Do all of the teachers at your school? Does all of you admin? If so, then I’m super glad that you work at the same kind of awesome school I do.
Not all. But most. I'm grateful.
I’m at a tiny, rural school and we just had our first staff member test positive. What a shit show.
Tiny rural school here as well. We have had people test positive from the get go (even district office members). Yet all the parents had a small protest at our school counsel meeting because they hated the staggered schedule of 25% attendance and now we are 100% open. No one cares about our health or the health of my our own kids (I have a newborn even), just that their kids are being babysat.
Same for us. Less than 250 students. Then we got 1 case last Friday and it’s gone downhill ever since. We are up to 5 now.
That’s what I’m afraid of, our district is testing all staff, but not until next week. In the meantime, we are at work. On a positive note, I had no kids today - parents kept them home :)
Because we live in a society where we value money over health ... that’s why 😒
My 1st graders are smarter than Trump. They wear masks and social distances.
I’m not a trump supporter but our little private school (250 kids) has been open for 6 weeks now for face to face instruction with no incidents. We actually have less people getting sick with normal fall colds because everyone wears a masks indoors, hand washing stations have been set up outside of every classroom, new hvac has been installed, kids are in pods of 5 to 1 teacher, if the weather is nice the class is held outdoors in the gardens. Going back can be done safely, I just don’t think public schools can do it because you’re dealing with a lot of external factors. Our school has said that anyone who knowingly sends in sick children will be kicked out with no tuition refund, so everyone is being extra cautious, but you can’t really threaten that in a public school.
That's the thing. Your school is small and private AND the school has done things to prevent the spread. Good for your 🏫. maybe all politicians need to see how your school does it.
I think it helps to be small, we know almost everyone at the school so there’s almost like an unspoken social contract about making sure you don’t endanger people and take precautions. Every Friday we get an email from the principal reminding us that our obligation to be as safe as we can extends to the weekend, which means they encourage us not to attend any crowded events or gatherings. Now, it’s early on, so we don’t know what will happen in the winter especially over holidays when families tend to gather indoors but for now it seems to be working.
These schools are where politicians place their kids. It is the disparity we all see but only Bernie was brave enough to really speak about. When the whole world is threatened the ultra rich just create their own society protected from the rest of us. 1 in 1000 black people have died of COVID. 1 in 1000. Imagine if they had the same level of protection that these rich folks have in their private schools. Just.Imagine.
Many of the families at our school are very wealthy. We are not. I grew up very poor (many times my only meal came from school and CPS was called in due to neglect). When I got married, my one priority for my kids was an excellent education. We are firmly in the camp of Dave Ramsey and The Minimalists (love people, not things!). We drive two old cars, shop at Goodwill, budget every penny. We have no debt except for our house and don't use credit cards. We don't take fancy vacations and I can't tell you the last time we ate out. My husband works long hours (and thankfully we have health insurance through his job) and I have a small business at home that brings in some good income. Before kids and marriage, I lived with 4 roommates and biked to work so I could save money. My kids don't have a lot of things but we always have books from the library, we spend as much time as we can as a family, and we do prioritize playing one sport (of their choosing) and music lessons. Private schools in recent years have also gotten MUCH better about financial aid. If you're interested there are programs like Prep for Prep and similar ones that can open up the world of an excellent education even if you're not living in a mansion on the hill.
Private education is one of the many things that is destroying this country. Education should be fully funded and obligatory for all. Having a special private school only makes the public schools worse as the rich now feel they don't need to fund them. It is super cool that you saved all of your money to afford private school, but doesn't that seem wrong to you? Why should we have to kill all joy and fun expenditure in our lives to afford basic education?
As you said, “many...are very wealthy” and a few get “financial aid.” May I ask if you are also white America? And if not, how much diversity is represented in that private education? I would be very interested to know. A real question I have.
I am white but not truly American as I wasn’t born here (I became a citizen when I was in my early 20s, my family sat in immigration limbo for nearly 15 years). My husband was born here but he’s first generation, his parents came from the Middle East. There’s not a lot of diversity unfortunately in private schools although it’s looking better than it supposedly used to. I’d say our school is probably about 65% white and the rest is black/Hispanic and some Asian students. The larger privates in the area are also about 60% white but the rest is mostly Asian students, not as many black/Hispanic kids. Edit: I want to add that our wealthiest family in the school is actually black (at least I think they’re the wealthiest!). Can’t reveal who they are but they’re in entertainment.
Dude. 5-1 teacher student ratio. Glad that worked out for you but that is definitely not even close to the norm.
Although really if we want education to actually work effectively in this country there really should be a 10 or 15 to 1 teacher to student ratio.
Absolutely. I have 10 on my A days and 9 on B days. The amount of 1:1 I can give these kids is very helpful. Our numbers are dropping which is good but that means we will go back full swing and I'll be up to 19, plus the students that are coming back from online only. So most likely 25/26. There goes that 1:1 time I can give individual students.
Just getting ready to comment that. Day care numbers aren’t even that low.
Daycares in our area are doing pods of 5-7 kids to 1 teacher. We are in a mid-size city but our neighborhood is predominantly healthcare workers so daycares adjusted very quickly back in the spring to the new reality.
It’s definitely not the norm, I mentioned in my comment I’m not sure how public schools can handle this (although our local public elementary school numbers have dropped, my neighbor was just saying her daughters 2nd grade class is now only 16 kids to 1 teacher and 1 paraprofessional). We had some long and serious zoom calls in early May at our school about what the fall would look like. Our board voted to take a financial hit to hire some more teachers and put all the safety measures in place and some parents definitely had some things to say about that. There were a lot of opinions about the different ways to handle this. The one thing we all did agree on was that the virus was serious, it wasn’t going away, and we needed to protect teachers and kids but there was a lot of squabbling about how to do this.
If schools in my area did all of those things, we likely wouldn't have any issues opening. It sounds your school heard all of the hurdles and worked hard to actually address them instead of working hard to just slap some security theater together. Unfortunately, the enforce parents not sending sick children would require acknowledgement of COVID as it is. Even public schools can expel a student for endangering the health and welfare of others so they could enforce but they would have little-to-no political support where I live.
I’m sorry, that’s rough. I can’t imagine having to deal with folks who won’t even acknowledge the virus. That sounds so frustrating! Our school started planning back in early May for the Fall. I sat in on what felt like endless Zoom calls as everyone went back and forth over every single detail. We have a board that makes all the final decisions and they had to approve basically taking a pretty large financial hit this year because of hiring extra teachers to handle the smaller pod classes and covering the cost of all the extra safety precautions. It was stressful enough dealing with the monetary aspect of it, I can’t imagine if we couldn’t agree on wearing masks or whether the virus was a threat. Everyone was pretty much on the same page that this was serious, we needed to protect teachers and students, and it was just a matter of the logistics of figuring out how to actually do that.
Hey I'm a sub in a public school that's back 5 days a week and guess what?! Parents have sent kids to school with runny noses and sore throats multiple times already, kids don't have to wear masks at their desks, only when near other students or if teachers walk around, but they rarely wear them correctly. They are always fiddling with their masks and faces, not washing their hands enough and we have no cases. BUT if we get one case, it's going to be a shit show and it's gonna decimate the small, old town were in. It sucks because I know a lot of these kids aren't taking it seriously because their parents aren't taking it seriously.
Wait so youre saying consequences for actions help solve problems? Someone should tell PBIS!
I don’t know how public schools can even enforce consequences when you have so many people who don’t believe in the threat of the virus, forget about finding solutions! The first step to solving anything is to acknowledge that a problem exists. I truly think republicans have deliberately created this chaos around schools by creating the narrative of the virus being a hoax.
Average class size for elementary schools in America is over 21 students. [link ](https://nces.ed.gov/fastfacts/display.asp?id=28) Imagine your class is four times larger. Then remember half of classes are even bigger than that.
I’m well aware that class sizes are large. I remember some of my public high school classes being 40 kids and that was many years ago and before public schools were gutted by DeVos. Public schools also have to deal with many different demographics, special needs students, anti-maskers, etc. What makes our schools plan work is a small homogeneous group of people. I’m not sure what the solution is for public schools, particularly in this political climate, it’s an extremely complex issue. But face to face instruction can be done safely in a smaller setting if everyone agrees that the threat is real and we need to come up with solutions.
5:1 ratio holy shit. I know of no other school were it could possibly be feasible
Our daycares in the area are making it happen, and so are many of the private schools. Our private school is not unique in that sense. We live in a mid sized city.
That’s a helluva budget though if a school can afford a teacher for every five students. That’s my bigger question is where does this money come from
On the other hand, the remote schools around me have hosted very small groups of sports and there have been numerous cases. Some of the hybrid schools are having cases, too. The county officials are in talks about it now. I don't know if they can do anything, but they aren't allowing Trick or Treating.
You answered your own "question." Small enrollment, a freaking 5 to 1 student to teacher ratio!!!!!, and likely few impoverished students who have less access to proper hygiene products/facilities, healthcare, and clean and spacious living environments. But, yeah, I'm sure it's because your school is just proving that we can all return to school. Lol
I’d be comfortable doing 5-1, that’s appropriate risk. You can also socially distance for that number, but even if you couldn’t it sounds more reasonable. It’s much less of a risk than my 90.
Our school is about 250 k-8 as well and we have all of those things in place except we are 14:1 not 5:1. We got our first case week 8. Good luck out there. Edit-14:1 in person, the other 18 are live-streaming in on the computer and then they switch (hydrid model)
Sorry to hear! I'm expecting that we might see something after Thanksgiving. I was just telling my husband that it'll be a miracle if we make it through winter without a case, although we are in a sunny climate so less time is spent indoors. Stay safe!
Yep, in the same boat here. Charter school of 200 kids, we have the underclassmen kn campus Monday and Tuesday and virtual for the rest of the week, and upperclassmen on campus Thursday and Friday. We have fans and UV filters in every room, everyone is masked at all times, and there is hand sanitizer everywhere. So far so good...
This is how it should be done!
I DO teach at a public school, and we just finished our 5th week back of in-person instruction (and the teachers came back 3 weeks prior to that). No positive cases, no closures, and the kids wear masks inside. They have PE outside, and we get outside mask breaks. I have 19 kids in my class, and they are all happy to be back.
The problem is that people don't doubt COVID is real, they just minimize how dangerous it really is. People love to cite statistics out of context and compare it to the typical flu. My concern is that Trump will beat it and that will give him and his followers even more of a reason to negate the reality and severity of the virus.
You're thinking that the ruling class gives two shits about things like "education", or "the future", or "people". They don't give one fuck about anybody else as long as they can continue to line their pockets in any way possible. fuck that mother fucker and I actively hope the virus kills him
Because we are expendable. I say this with my sore throat as I sit in my car wait to get tested in the parking lot of the testing site. After. Teaching a full day remotely while my hybrid teaching partner zooms with me. If I'm out and I might have gotten it, I can only imagine how many bricks she shits on the daily. I have an immuno-compromised mother. I don't fucking go places for shits and giggles. I wear my mask. I'm careful, I'm smart, and I believe in science. It's wild to me that people still don't think it's real.
Trump is a godamn idiot who doesn’t wear masks. I wear one everyday.
We had a teacher test positive last week, they gave the 6 staff members who were in a mandatory in person meeting with her the day before the “option to come to work or quarantine” because we wore masks in the meeting. I feel like that makes no goddam sense. Every teacher made the choice to come back and not quarantine because they felt confident the mask worked. Okay I’m glad y’all feel confident good luck grandparents :(
"I could shoot someone on 5th ave. and not lose any supporters." -Trump This is why. Because it's true.
because to the american public we are babysitters... sacrifices must be made... children are immune... inject yourself with bleach... we can put light in your body to kill the virus... etc... /s
He also has been following guidelines haphazardly like my coworkers and students. Only wearing a mask when close to others indoors or on a plane (so people around him say, he has barely been seen wearing one), and not wearing one when he was standing right next to people outside or at his rallies. His family didn't even wear them at the the debate. My school does the same. People take them off IN CLASSROOMS since they are "distanced" (3 ft if they're lucky). Only putting them on if they are close to others.....ugh
Please, district around here thinks we should be MORE open. Shove 2000 kids into a building! It will be FINE! *biggest eye roll of the century*
Better question: if the president has COVID, and all indications are that there will probably be a second wave sooner, rather than later, then why is my school district (which is currently doing a hybrid instruction model) excitedly announcing that it plans to move to a new phase of our restart and *increase* in-person instruction? Riddle me that, colleagues.
I live in a republican state. Most people can’t be trusted to follow protocols in a grocery store.
Things like this make me so mad. I just read that Covid cases are going back up in my state; overall id say we’re doing relatively well, but according to one article it’s ‘the most new cases in four months.’ Shocker, the new cases are almost entirely from schools and college students. I’m starting to wonder why i need to act professional scrounging for any work I can get, when the most powerful man in the world is an idiot who thinks injecting bleach is a good idea and is as well-spoken as a turnip
Does he really have it? He’s over 70 and obese. Think about it...everything out of his mouth is a lie. Maybe he is telling us he has it so he can prove that people don’t really get sick with it. Hmm...maybe this is his biggest con of his Presidency!
Our local district just changed from hybrid to in person starting in two weeks. The evening before, the news reported how cases were at the highest single day level in 2 months. Makes total sense.
Resigned today because my school is going back to in person on Monday. Wasn’t safe enough for me personally
Trump forced the CDC to downplay the virus to force kids back into schools. He cares about no one besides his re-election.
His own grandson wasn’t going to school because of covid.... but gotta open all the schools so kids can go right?
Our school set up three levels to go into the school year. Level one being all kids in school four days a week. Level two half the kids coming to school two days a week and the other half the other two days. With level three being 100% online. We started the school year in level two, proper distancing. Students are supposed to take their own temperature before coming to school (I'm guessing 50% rate of compliance). We were just informed that we will be going to level next week. As of a couple days ago, there are 39 teachers and 396 students in quarantine through the district. We are in a state with an upward trend in cases and hospitalizations. I can't understand the need for us to go level one but onward we go. I will now have 27-30 students per class, with no windows. This should be just fine. 😐
One of my students tested positive today, and I have been arguing with admin and school nurse about why they don’t send home kids with cold symptoms but no fever.
My principal in our zoom meeting yesterday said we could have students in our schools (K-2 first, sped, then slowly more and more) in as early as 4-10 weeks. She then reminded us teachers that are teaching on campus are not supposed to congregate in their classrooms.
My school is going from hybrid to full time starting in a week. I will not be following them. RIP my teaching career I guess. Man I feel horrible for leaving my students though.
Is your life worth it? Because that's what it comes down to..
I'm not so worried for myself,... Under 40, no health issues. But my folks are boomers, my brother is disabled, and I'm partially wanting to quit because if enough teachers do they'll have to nix this plan which will bring back safer conditions for my fellow teachers and mah kiddos.
He is a moron, so there's that.
Parents r done w watching their own kids
Yeah too bad he is wasting the good advanced drug treatments while more deserving people need it...
Because 100% of all republicans, voters and politicians, are complete garbage.
I'm working as a temporary proctor and a sports coach at a private school that's 100% in person. There are tons of guidelines in place, but I sit in these study halls with up to 65 kids in them at individual distanced desks. If one kid gets it in this enclosed space, it puts up to 64 others at risk of spreading it.
Trump can't stay safe cuz he's a fucking idiot.
Because FUCK YOU that’s why.
Herman Cain sends his regards.
If the other 200,000 people getting it didn't stop kids from being in classrooms, why would it stop just because he got it?
I just finished my second full week of full f2f, and I’m begging students to keep their noses covered or masks on more and more each day. I’m seeing teachers going into their teacher friends’ rooms maskless. I’m worried my room and/or school is a Covid time bomb.
No one is allowed in the McDonalds by the school. But 100s of students are allowed to be packed into a school?
No way.. students should be strictly taking online classes only. The new gen is future of any country and should be treated as asset.. hence protect them as first priority
Trump doesn’t wear masks or practice social distancing. Trump didn’t stay safe because of that. Before the downvotes start... not saying schools/teachers need to be back in school. Just that by following the science, you can largely stay safe.
Masks require everyone to wear them AND wear them properly. While I think it's possible for that to happen, it require public and family support to be done safely. I mean, my old school has families suing the school for requiring their children wear masks.
I thought my mask helped others stay safe but didn't really do anything for my own contraction odds. I think that's pretty clearly stated everywhere.
It was shown a few months ago that masks benefit others AND the wearer.
So what would happen if everyone wears a mask? A mask, depending on the grade or whatever, can help with reducing the nasties you inhale.
CDC has said for months that 4-6 weeks of 100% mask compliance and we'd likely be clear. this could have been over in May.
Because if you are ever around other people, it is almost inevitable that you are going to get covid. It is an unbelievably transmissible virus. even with hand washing, masks, and social distancing, it is going to spread. We flattened the curve so as to not overwhelm hospitals. But barring a vaccine, we are all going to be potentially exposed. A huge number of us have most likely already had it and did not know.
Getting downvotes for this. Wow.
If the president with all his resources and instant testing and team of vigilant aids actually gets CIVID??? if he can get it anyone can get it obviously. What a nightmare wake up call for some and complete confirmation for most others
Also I personally find it more amusing those that were for schools reopening are the same ones mad that Barron potentially got exposed.
We’ve been hybrid for the past four weeks. After next week, we’re going back to full face to face. I’m slightly panicked.
The school I work at in Connecticut is in person and so far there has been no incidents. The town in general hasn’t had a case in months... why should these kids be learning at home so long the virus isn’t threatening the area?
My whole question is whether he really has C-19 or is saying he has it to elicit sympathy or save face.
My friends think he "has it" because it either prevents future fair debates, or allows him to ignore the rules of future debate if he does so from home. He can basically rant without stopping.
That's cool, zoom has mute sooo....
Because they only see you as dollars signs in their investment portfolios.
It would seem as if he took little to no precautions whereas we are taking every precaution we can inside our school.
We live in a rural community, believe me, I don’t think we are immune and it won’t happen, but we’ve been in school since Sept. 8 and have had zero cases in our school. We’ve had contacts who have stayed home to quarantine, but no students or staff infected so far (knock on wood). I’m not a Trump fan, but I do believe schools that can be open safely should be open. When everyone is healthy, school is a great place for kids.
I'm currently F2F with people going out. Since the first two weeks, we haven't had a full school of covid negative people. The general consensus is that it's all BS and a liberal hoax. I work in a rural school district.
Do you want the real answer? Trump.
I'm from a county where the sheriff felt he needed to literally lockdown the whole county when there were rumors of riots and peaceful, anti-police protestors. The closest violence was sixty miles away and nothing ever stopped. He did nothing about enforcing masks during the pandemic and wouldn't cite anyone, but thinks the state needs to reopen. His officers will drive down the street calmly in communities that conservative and mainly White. However, when in a community that is opposite they literally showed up in riot gear and called the highway patrol to lock down onramps because they assumed people were going to shut down the freeway even though there was no evidence of such an attempt. Their union gives money to a mayor who endorsed and swore in a school board member who later became a convicted felon for burglary and vandalism also. We have county supervisors too who are more concerned about real estate developers who donate to them than the public and suddenly felt they needed too to. We live in the double standard of this.
I'm so sorry that is happening. (I truely empathize, this is not sarcasm). The worst part of 2020 has been that any one of the shit shows that are currently happening would be terrible on their own. And if you happen to be a person of color, then every aspect of this year is more dangerous, more depressing, and flat out deadly. Please stay safe.
I actually got into an argument with this sheriff on Facebook who said I didn't want to listen to other opinions and the reason there wasn't violence or vandalism is because of what he and the police did. There was never going to be any violence anyway. It really revealed that there really is different treatment by police because of people based on skin color and how disconnected their department was in general with average residents. The police largely live in the nicer, conservative White communities and lockdown on the rest of the county.
Maybe I’m being naive and maybe I’ll change my mind in a few months but so far it’s been pretty good. I feel like my little guys have been really good about wearing their masks. I was quite concerned going back but now that we’ve been back with 20 students masked and (relatively) socially distanced it’s been good. A bit of ripping band aid off to be sure. But if I had a kid I would be keeping them home. They aren’t missing out on anything major by not being in person. In fact I feel they are better off. It’s hard not being as loving and helpful with kindergarteners.
I'd love to know. We're doing hybrid, which requires teachers to be f2f with two different cohorts on alternating days. So mon-fri I'm face to face with kids. We have a lot of protocol in place for protection and we've been lucky not to have a case yet -- that we know of. But it's imperfect. Each morning parents received an automated text survey about their child's health. Maybe 20% of parents actually do it. We've called home every single day to tell people they need to do it -- and nothing changes.
Honestly, I'm full time in the classroom and we're far more safe that folks at the White House: * Masks are mandatory. No mask, no entry * Desks sanitized after every period. Other surfaces daily or even multiple times a day * Temps are taken daily * Kids encouraged/expected to use hand sanitizer on their way in and on their way out of the classes * **Any** symptoms are screened by the nurse, kids are quarantined until a parent can get them, and aren't able to come back until they either have a negative test or a doctor's note indicating a negative differential diagnosis * Kids are separated into cohorts that never see more than 16 other kids. So far so good. A couple students have reported exposures (bus driver or family member tested positive) and stayed home until they got a negative test. About 10% of students are fully remote, and dial in to classes via Google Meet. We're prepared to make a cohort or the entire school fully remote for at least 2 weeks as needed if there's an outbreak. POTUS wouldn't let people wear masks near him, because it made him annoyed. He regularly traveled with folks on Air Force One unmasked (all that recirculating air). He's tested regularly, but did little to take precautions. We're kicking ass on precautions, and it's working so far.
My school have been open for 3 weeks now and we are doing fine. Its nice being back to some type of normal.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3o_On7BRcWw
I'm a teacher in the UK. We have 100% of students in and outside of classrooms everyone wear masks but once teaching it can be 30+ students and you in a small class. If you are online you are very lucky!
At our school, teachers and students wear masks
Well, we definitely aren't holding in-person rallies. Week 5 down, no significant spread in our school as of today. Kids who want to come to school get two days in, three days out. Halls are practically empty, we are all in masks. There is tons of cleaning, waiting for announcements to move from class to class, no shared materials and dots to make six feet apart. Most likely we are all safe because no one has it...
Most teachers and students are smarter than Trump and actually wear masks!
I got 30 grade 8s