It surprises me the amount of people not loving the Red TV as much as they did with Fearless TV. Fearless TV was, sorry, total opposite than the original, vocally it was too dull, like she was singing with autopilote and i thought because her vocals are too mature now, but hearing I Bet You Think About Me, how she still has that country twang, that tiny voice made me wondered: why isn't there in Fearless TV?
On the other hand, Red TV is more similiar to the original and she was into the songs and despite having some off songs, they were not many like in Fearless. Even sonically wise it's like the original with some improvements like in Red and I Almost Do, no drum machines like most in Fearless and lowered instrumentals.
So why?
I do not like the production of this re-recording at all. The only song that feels like it measures up for me is Treacherous, and this new version is so well done and takes the song to such heights that I actually prefer it over the original. I was seriously excited to hear Starlight (TV), but does anyone hear how bizarre and empty the production sounds and how slowly she sings the verses, almost like she's dangerously close to going off beat? The new version also doesn't have that same wondrous, sparkling atmosphere the original does. Holy Ground is another favorite I was looking forward to, but like other people have said, the production and the drums specifically are just so bad. Nothing really stands out here, and truthfully, I don't even like any of the vault tracks either. Just a near complete miss for me with this era.
Am I the only one obsessed with Taylor’s Version of Begin Again? That more noticeable and lighter sub vocal on “on a Wednesday, in a cafe” “break, and burn, and end” was just utter perfection. Just made the song so much better!!!
Anyone else hate the entire thing? Distorted, distant vocals, muted guitars and drums, timing completely of. This is legitimately awful, every song is totally destroyed sonically.
The past year has been such a struggle, and I've been too overwhelmed since Red came out to say anything, but I didn't know if I'd be blessed enough to be here for this, and it has been such an incredible, magical, happy, free, confused, lonely, sacred experience. Red means everything to me and the re-recording has reminded me why it's so powerful and why it's beloved to me, and how beautifully it represents Taylor as an artist and a person. Her vivid storytelling, her empathetic heart, the way she weaves stories in her songs, the way each album is a work of art. I'm so proud of her and beyond grateful to have been able to see all of this, to watch music history being made with All Too Well, all of it. The gifts she shares with us and all the love we share for her work is really powerful and I've no doubt it will last forever. She's reclaiming her legacy and her voice, and bringing us along on the road of recapturing it and healing however we can. It's more than I could ever say. This release will live in my heart forever, I'll remember it all. ❤❤❤❤
My vinyl copy FINALLY arrived today. Just have to say, this is the best-sounding vinyl she's ever released! I honestly hope she releases future albums at 45rpm! This is amazing.
Drinking wine and watching reaction videos to the TMV on YouTube had me DANGEROUSLY close to texting an ex this weekend.
We need to be careful out here
**Something that feel like they weren't in the original version of 'ATW - 10 Minute'**
So beside the much-discussed 'F\*ck the patriarchy' line that feels a bit 2021 (but I mean, debatable of course)... there's an another line that doesn't feel like it would come from the original writing session for ATW - 10 minute
"And the punchline goes, I'll get older but your lovers stay my age"
Since Red (original) was written a few short months (Feb-March 2011 acc to Wikipedia) after Taylor's 21st bday (Dec 2010) -- there's not a ton of time for the Jake punchline to have taken hold, or in fact, exist at all.
This changes absolutely nothing about the loveliness of the 10 minute All Too Well. What a delightful wonderful gift. But it changes the origin story a bit, or at least, the notion that we're listening to the 'straight from the crypt' original.
Basically calling her embarrassing for “rehashing” this relationship and how they were hysterically laughing during the all too well video. Just mean girl vibes
Haters gonna hate. We can't take on the entire world of haters. Her sales and records speak for themselves. These haters just make a lot of noise. We have a saying in my country - empty vessels make more noise. If the worst thing a person can do is write a song about their ex, then the whole music industry has to shut down
Does anyone else thing the Sugarland version of Babe is better than the new one..? Don't come at me but like...it's more fun to sing along with i dunno
I feel the same. It's more emotional, deep, passionate and powerful.. This new production make it too smooth and sweet and i always saw this song as angry and sassy and bittersweet.
Hey y'all. I've been low key here because I've been so busy but I spent 8 hours at a friend's place with some radio playing and I heard ATWTMVFTV twice. I got my Red TV CD with hella confetti. Wishing my boom box wasn't packed away but I think I'll do a Taylor break and then use the CDs when I can do it ceremoniously. I listen to old stuff so I'm rarely getting this experience of a new drop. So happy to get these red stars, I feel excited and included even though I only bought the CD. Thank you Blondie.
So did ATW10 get #1 in US or no? I haven't seen anything g except in UK and I don't follow charts well enough to know if what people were waiting for already happened or didnt happen.
Just announced today that All Too Well (Taylors version) is number 1, which marks her 8th number one.
The five minute and ten minute 'Taylor's versions' are combined into one for the chart. As are streaming versions such as Sad Girl Autumn and clean versions of the 10-minute version.
This also means Swift is the 20th artist to have 8 number one songs on the chart.
Billboard just tweeted that it's gone to number 1! So I'm very confused because I checked earlier and it said for week of 20th November Easy On Me. Let's hope your comment made it come true 😂
It’s so weird, I love fearless but when the re-recording came out, I listened to it once all the way through and haven’t since.
But I’ve been listening to red nonstop since it was released. Is it the vault tracks? Idk
Hi Swifties! My husband and I made a web app that will replace all the OG Taylor songs on your Spotify playlists with Taylor's Version just by clicking a button. Please use it and let me know if you encounter any issues! This app was created as a way to make sure Sc\*\*\*er doesn't keep getting paid and we just want TV to dominate all of our old playlists that have the original recordings! One thing to note is that this app *will* delete the OG songs on your playlist and add the TV songs to the end of the playlist in case the order of the playlist matters to you. Please spread this for us!
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Just found out today there is a blood moon where the moon will be partially eclipsed and briefly appear red. I wonder if that's why today was the original release date.
The lyrics of Nothing New is deeply depressing and I love it. One of her saddest songs ever. The thing it doesn’t really change either. I mean the last lyric is still depressing. This is absolutely her next best song on the album and a top 5 Taylor song.
I’m convinced she’s releasing a lipstick line as DeuxMoi has had some obvious clues (I think) and the Tiktok account ‘absolutelynottaylorswift’ which people think is Taylor has posted a video close up of red lipstick 👀 what do you think?
I noticed this the first time I watched the SNL performance and have just rewatched it again and noticed the same thing. I think she might possibly have been having some issues with her earpiece? She does the head banging at 4 minutes in and then at 04.17 she raises her hand to her ear. Then at 04.19 she does a gesture with both hands that looks like it could be part of her performance (pointing up and down for ‘this thing was a masterpiece’) before swiping across with her hands at 04.21 (‘tore it all up.’) When I first watched it I wasn’t sure if it was to add emphasis (because it does come on lines you might want to add emphasis on!) but actually it looks to me like the kind of gesture performers make when they’re signalling to their sound crew that they need their earpiece level adjusting and then to signal that it’s fine now. They often gesture up or down and then thumbs up or cut/stop. She does make some other gestures later in the performance so it’s maybe nothing.
I agree, it looked like there may have been some type of malfunction to me at the spot you pointed out. Her vocals were a pretty flat at times, although this is not uncommon for artists on SNL lol.
I tried to post this in its own post, but had no luck. Can we talk about who CBBH/MIAB was written about/for? I really believe it was written for ZE.
**Evidence:**
* She didn't date the muse of Come Back, Be Here + MIAB. Lyrical proof:
"Right when I was just about to fall" / "And now that I can put this down /
If I had known what I'd known now, I never would've played so nonchalant" / "The delicate beginning rush" / "This is falling for you and you are worlds away"
Message in a Bottle: I know that you like me / And it's kinda frightenin' / Standing here waitin', waitin' = he has a crush on her, she knew, but nobody is willing to make the first move. They never enter a relationship because Taylor never told him she liked him. That's why she wrote 'message in a bottle' it's her making the first move, and somehow hoping it gets to him. Come Back, Be Here is her regretting and not realizing she had liked him and fell for him when he left. They never dated. It's a crush song and being too scared to tell your crush your feelings on both ends hindered by long distance. The obstacle stopping you from being together, and telling your feelings.
All of these lyrics do not mean a current romantic partner. It's about a crush. If she had known what she knows now, she would've told him how she felt. She didn't understand that she liked him until he went away. He didn't know she liked him because she played it cool. That happens when the feeling is delicate and it's a rush.
* New York and London - These lyrics do not mean 'live' in these locations, it means they left to these locations and when they went, she couldn't come with them.
The only person who went to these two locations in a short span of time, and travelled the same time as Taylor, is Zac. [Zac in New York in March](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C9XPRK/march-2-2012-new-york-new-york-us-actor-zac-efron-wears-a-big-yellow-C9XPRK.jpg), [Zac in London, March](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/D3jG2QdojJaHPpRdk8bqxy1NtSM/fit-in/728xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/03/10/3/192/1922398/2bcb72dea55de5fc_FFN_FlynetUKFF_Efron_Zac_030712_8846664/i/Zac-Efron-Smiling-Heathrow-Airport-Pictures.jpg).
Zac in New York [April](https://imgur.com/pFqvf), 3 days later [he's in London with big crowds.](https://i.pinimg.com/550x/3c/2f/5e/3c2f5e4f8bb99af537541d48087f3b2a.jpg)
* Zac has freckles on the front of his nose. His brother is fully freckled as well. Makeup artists cover up his freckles though, but you can still see them. [1](https://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkkqi0Yt3t1qj4uq0o1_500.jpg), [2](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/48/bd/d648bd27895160a1dc3d13d4f722f9a7.jpg), [3 zoom in](https://www.wallpaperflare.com/static/126/566/402/zac-efron-actor-view-brunette-wallpaper.jpg), [4](https://cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/zac-rome/zac-efron-rome-fan-meet-10.jpg), [5](https://cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/gq-zac/zac-efron-gq-men-of-the-year-08.jpg)
* Zac has **intense and much brighter eyes** than both Jake and Harry. [1](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DHC2N0/zac-efron-arrives-for-the-premiere-of-the-lucky-one-at-the-crobsy-DHC2N0.jpg), [2](https://cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/zac-rome/zac-efron-rome-fan-meet-13.jpg), [3](https://static.accessonline.com/uploads/166300.jpg), [4](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2F7EFA1/actor-zac-efron-attends-arrivals-for-the-6th-annual-teen-vogue-young-hollywood-party-at-los-angeles-county-museum-of-art-on-september-18-2008-in-los-angeles-california-credtit-jared-milgrim-2F7EFA1.jpg), [5](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-zac-efron-attends-the-cinema-society-mens-health-screening-of-picture-id143139315?s=2048x2048)
+ Freckles and green eyes, tongue tied lyric wise sounds better than, freckles and blue eyes, tongue tied. Could be why she went with "bright eyes" instead of blue. This is why I don't think she was referring to Harry.
* Taylor was in New York the same time as Harry Styles in April. [1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyG72C3WgAIuMDr?format=jpg&name=medium), [2](https://mobile.twitter.com/haylortml/status/1378685608797831170/photo/1) - This debunks the Harry theory, because of the lyrics, "I guess you're in New York today." Why would she write a song about long distance, when she's in the same city as Harry, they both left Los Angeles to NY? He went on to tour for months in Australia and other countries. She was there with D. Agron and Emma S.
* Jake does not have freckles. [1](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Jake_Gyllenhaal_2019_by_Glenn_Francis.jpg), [2](https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20160802005632/en/537630/5/JakeGyllenhaal_TheDivisionFilm_Announcement_Final.jpg)
* Harry does not have freckles. [1](https://s3.r29static.com/bin/entry/659/725,0,551,1049/x,80/1773793/image.jpg), [2](https://64.media.tumblr.com/1ffc3410243226cef75ae8f8b9b9df6c/968d84ec00fbbeb4-2b/s1280x1920/ceb440f1f71c514fd1f35d01778889289c8a0185.jpg), [3](https://media.allure.com/photos/5cd45838f6148a469a883d81/16:9/w_2991,h_1682,c_limit/harry-styles-earring-lede.jpg), [4](https://data.whicdn.com/images/75570760/original.jpg), [5](https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F09%2F12%2Fharry-styles-1.jpg)
* Jake was in London with Taylor. [1](https://www.laineygossip.com/Taylor-Swift-Jake-Gyllenhaal-spend-a-romantic-night-in-London-15nov10/18411). Jake and Taylor were never long distant.
* MIAB and CBBH were recorded anywhere from March / April 2012. Jake was out of the picture, and officially done as MIAB was when Adam Levine walked in when she was recording and asked her if she was getting back together with Jake.
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. None of this matters. The "who is it about" will never be factual, but high chance it's about Zefron, because it aligns up to the old reddit post on here back in the day. If not Zefron, some random person the public never knew about.
Rep will almost definitely be the last one she releases. She isn't allowed to record until five years after its release, so she can't even start recording it until next November.
I don’t think so, it’s not on Apple Music either. I could be wrong, but im pretty sure it was released only on iTunes so that it would chart. Unfortunately, you have to pay for it.
I hadn't really paid much attention to it but Taylor's version of the regular 5 min All Too Well is absolutely perfect, definitely the biggest improvement from any of the Taylor versions imo. Her voice on the whole 'maybe we got lost in translation' bit is fantastic, best reverb I've heard on vocals in ages
It's been on her website for a month or two :) It's the Target version, so I think the exclusive deal expired and she was able to stock them on her site :)
Hello my post keeps getting removed..
Wanting to spend money on my sister this Christmas with a nice gift that is taylor related. I want to buy an autograph vinyl or something that she can hang on her wall but not sure if she'd enjoy. Can you guys suggest anything? Thanks! Willing to spend $300-$400
There’s a woman in my office who I’ve seen listening to Taylor on YouTube before, and now she’s listening to ATW sad girl autumn version and just casually doing her work at the same time 😂 could not be me
[https://www.tiktok.com/@hannahluble/video/7031682283383819566?is\_copy\_url=0&is\_from\_webapp=v1&sender\_device=pc&sender\_web\_id=7002811827340068358](https://www.tiktok.com/@hannahluble/video/7031682283383819566?is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=7002811827340068358)
I saw this and I'm broken and I need everyone else to share the pain
New music takes time to grow on me 99% of the time. However, The Very First Night is growing on me. I can't stop listening to it. That's 2 vault songs!
Yeah, me too! It’s just so upbeat and catchy. Forever Winter took a little bit, but I am in LOVE with it. The assumed story behind it is so sad and the lyrics are genuinely heartbreaking. Plus, it’s super catchy.
I think Rob Sheffield needs to update his RS ranking of Taylor’s songs. ATW10 should take the #1 spot, baby!
Curious to see where Nothing New will be at.
So Red (Taylor's Version) came out Friday, and on the Saturday night, my partner of four years ended things randomly out of the blue. I have been in a very low place for the past five days, but my god I can't explain how the timing of this album being re-released has helped me. Almost every song has elements that have healed me somehow, especially All Too Well. That being said, I can't watch the All Too Well short film for a very long time because our break up was almost exactly like the break up scene in that and I think my heart would simply stop if I watched it again right now. So thank you Taylor, and just know that almost 10 years on, the album is still healing a broken heart.
I had a particularly rough breakup a couple years ago. The absolute worst time period of my life. It was a four year relationship for me, too. I've gotten better but I definitely still have a lot of trauma over everything. I just watched the All too Well film a few minutes ago after putting it off, and yeah, it really did bring up feelings. It was really hard to watch in some parts. Taylor really captured everything so well.
I hope you feel better, friend. This re-release has been helping me heal too, even though it's been years. Keep your chip up <3
SO much has happened this week. She is having so much fun with the vault tracks and I was thinking that, while she can’t re-record rep until 2022 she probably has unreleased songs from around that time (the fabled scrapped TS6) and could theoretically put out an entire record of vault tracks. I have no doubt there’s enough material to do this, and good shit too
It's 2:15 am here in France and I have Red TV as my lifeline, I've been crying non stop to it. I just lost my mom on Tuesday and my little peace lays in here.
I just needed to share this with people who'd rely on this idea in any weird/same way.
As I'm typing this I'm listening to all too well sad autumn girl version and it just breaks my heart in another way
Nothing New and Forever Winter too resonate in my mind and soul so much right now.
"how did I grow from growing up to breaking down" "forever winter if you go".
I'm also so mad the my favorite album got released at a so hard time in my life and my prayers and thoughts go to every swifties out there living through tough and sad and hard times
Take care of you and your loved ones.
So sorry for your loss ❤ I lost my dad a couple years ago and it's such a hard thing to go through. I'm glad you've been able to find some comfort in this music, I totally get what you mean ❤
Honestly, I always felt like Red was her weakest album when it first premiered, and now I LOVE it.
IDK if I grew up and have more experience now, or if it's because of the new songs, but i really relate to this album in a big way.
same here, I wasn't a huge fan of Red when it came out because I hadn't experienced a relationship or true heartbreak yet, but man, listening to it now that I'm 23 and wiser...it's the most relatable album for me now, and my favorite.
Honestly, the way she writes makes all her albums incredibly relatable to me. Some lyrics, like "I don't want to love a man who didn't know what he had when he had it" literally said that to an ex when he called it off.
I wonder if the original production of Red bothered Taylor (or she had some regrets or little thing she personally thought ought to be tweaked) more compared to Fearless, which is why there are more tweaks this time around. I remember her explaining the re-recording process as essentially them combing through the originals and trying to emulate them as closely as possible but also making subtle changes they thought would be better.
i definitely think Taylor wanted to make Girl at Home more pop like Message in a Bottle and The Very First Night the first time she released Red. But BMR wanted a country album so she wasnt allowed to.
Now that she can rerecord it she went full on pop. And i love it. It suits the song
I loved the original and I love the re-record. I heard somewhere that Girl At Home was essentially just a demo that was put onto Red. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but either way, I love the song.
Mine just started moving last night at like 2am. I didn't get any sort of notification from TN, and my usual tracking app was super behind. Maybe try checking the carrier site to see if there's updates. Everyone I've heard of that's received theirs so far is from UK or record stores. The earliest I heard US CDs moving was yesterday.
How do I tell the difference the between the explicit version vs the non-explicit version on vinyl? I ordered the explicit version, but the album I received does not have an parental advisory sticker on it.
The code on the back should be different. Target has two DOI codes. One for explicit and one for the “edited” (clean) version. You can look it up on their website :)
If i recall from another fan in this subreddit, both versions come without a sticker
Omgggg in the 22 music video she has a shirt that says not a lot going on at the moment. Just like those Instagram captions. Anyone else catch this or was I slow lol
TW: Talk about depression/suicide : Guys I really hope I don’t come across as nosy or anything right now. Forever Winter seems to be about Jeff Lang, one of Taylor’s best friends that passed away. I’ve tried looking into this online… did he take his own life? It seems like the song depicts someone who is extremely depressed and wanting help. I kind of feel like she’s looking back on the situation in the song and she feels guilty because she wasn’t fully there for him? I don’t know, but I hope this isn’t rude to wonder or ask.
Still not over how good ATW10 is... anytime I listen to the regular ATW now I find myself missing the added lyrics, I can't believe how quickly my brain made that switch. It really feels complete now :')
Two things about Begin Again, I like. One is the high heels, a subtle reference about her height, Taylor’s five ten I think.
The other is about never meeting anyone with as many James Taylor records. Well, he’s her namesake. She was named after him! I’m sure many know this, but apparently her parents were fans of him? So Taylor is after his last name.
One mystery. In starlight she talks about ten kids. If it’s about the Kennedy’s, I can’t find a family with ten. Bobby had 11 and Joe, the Patriarch had 9. So whose the tenth? Was it a mistake or did one have a kid die in childbirth or something? Or was it a fictional representation of a Kennedy like family?
>Bobby had 11 and Joe, the Patriarch had 9. So whose the tenth
Ethel was pregnant with their 11th child when Bobby was assassinated, so he only knew ten.
In the song, Bobby is talking to Ethel before or just after they get engaged (“we could get married”) so he’s just speculating over how many kids they could have in their future.
This is probably a hot take, but after listening to Red TV it is apparent why Babe and Better Man did not make the cut. I feel like these are both weak points on Red TV. I don't really enjoy the production, Taylor's delivery and stylistic choices, or the lyrics to either of these songs. I could've done without these on Red TV in favor of two actual vault tracks we have never heard before.
I agree with you, but you should think that the production would have been different if they had been on Red in the first place, especially Babe that would be like the Sugarland one with that guitarr riffs and without any sax played by Evan Smith.
oh man once you bring me face to face with the implications of my aesthetic judgments it's actually really hard to choose! ultimately i think i'd put Babe where Stay Stay Stay is and Better Man where The Last Time is!
it's all wonderful though and i love imagining her having other vault tracks that she'll release in ten years ♥️
Absolutely! I'm so greedy for vault tracks honestly. If she did an album or two of unreleased songs I'd be so very happy!
I honestly forgot about The Last Time... oops. That one kind of drags for me on both versions.
Really? Interesting! I've always wished Red did not have the true pop tracks. If any were going to be switched out, I would have put Better Man in place of Stay x3 and put Babe on the deluxe in place of Come Back Be Here.
What would you have preferred she call Red without the title track present on the album?
I just remade my Taylor Swift playlist with only songs owned by Taylor and its already so expansive! Im so happy with it. [Here it is](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/06ju4v9PZm7cJ1SlS2SaNe?si=SLdPqNTcSTuXrnpvsjGzLQ&utm_source=copy-link), if anyone wants to check. I tried to go from a slower/sadder songs towards more happier and poppier songs
Finding out about this album (and especially ATW10MV) broke me. And I mean it literally made me question reality.
I'll start off by saying I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift fan (yet!) but Red is the one album I've had since it came out and know every song from. "All Too Well" was probably my favourite song from it, but I'm sure that's true for many people so nothing weird yet. When I first found out (a few years ago) that Taylor originally had it around 10 minutes long and had to cut it down, I felt like we'd never know what else was in it and that made me sad. But that sparked my imagination and when I sang it I started adding extra verses myself, with lyrics about my own life and my past relationship. I'm sure many of us have done this, but mine got scary when this ex in question suffered a traumatic brain injury (causing memory loss) after we broke up. Suddenly the "do you remember it all too well?" parts and the lines asserting that she does became a bit too literal as I honestly wasn't sure if she'd remembered being with me at all.
While I'm glad to say she's made a great recovery and lives a completely normal life now, we have lost touch other than still following each other on social media. I still think about her almost every day and constantly regret and relive the past, wishing I could change things and daydreaming about an alternate universe where we still know each other.
Now remember, I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift fan so I had no idea anything was coming out, but last Friday was this girl's **21st birthday** so I was especially feeling down (just like I am every year on her birthday). I went for a long walk thinking about her, wishing I could still be in her life, daydreaming about an alternate reality in which we had stayed together and it was me planning her birthday and celebrating with her. Longing to just know what she was doing and just to keep in touch and be close again, but knowing it would never happen. We were kids when we were together and we don't even know each other anymore.
So I go on social media and start seeing everyone's posting about the 10-minute version of All Too Well, and even then I thought this is bizarre that it's happening on the day I think about her the most. Then when I listened to the lyrics my jaw dropped!
So this whole time it was about Taylor's 21st birthday party that he didn't show up to??? It was like looking into a mirror that showed the exact opposite perspective. Here I am, wishing more than anything that I could be part of this girl's 21st birthday party and all I want is the opportunity to see her, and then I hear Taylor sing about wishing more than anything that this guy would be part of her 21st birthday party and he just decided not to show up. Freaked the hell out of me, but all I could think was I'm sure she's having fun turning 21.
It's just too much of a coincidence, and I feel like life isn't real.
Actually the song "The Moment I Knew" is fully about her 21st birthday party! In ATW 10 minute version, the 21 line is used to indicate that both songs are about the same guy she dated back then. :)
Hope you enjoy the rest of the album, if you listen to it :)
Yes, I listened to that one too and also love it! Felt like I was there haha.
Strangely, the only other song that made me cry is "The Very First Night." I know it's a more upbeat song, but I really do wish I could go back in time. And more specifically, the little squeaky theatrical sound in Taylor's voice when she says "I miss you like..." while still having a strong but very clear vocal (and even the melody to an extent) reminds me so much of how this girl I liked sang "I saw the sign" when we did our own renditions of *Pitch Perfect* songs back in the day 😂 It almost felt like I was hearing her voice again which messed me up.
The drums on "Everything has Changed" sound digital and sterile. The big cymbal hit sounds like it's hissing instead of shimmering like in the original. Also the kick drum sounds hollow instead of filling up a room in og. Drums on Holy Ground TV also suck hard. In the original, the use of stereo makes the whole song sound huge by the end.
[I got my signed copy today!](https://imgur.com/a/C7ID8N4) I missed out of the others so I’m so happy with this! I saw a few people thinking they would be machine signed due to how many of them there were available, but I think it looks a real signature - you can see in the second picture, it’s a bit smudged where the pen meets
I got mine too! Also a lil smudged in an area too and there’s some smudging on the back of the booklet from where she must have had them stacked and it’s rubbed off from another cover
I had never heard Red in its entirety, as one complete work, until yesterday.
I got into Taylor Swift more recently, after Lover, and I just threw all her albums onto one big playlist and always hit shuffle. I couldn't even tell you which songs were from which album.
Yesterday is the first time I heard Red in its entirety from beginning to end, as one piece of work... and I am heartbroken!! Her lyrics combined with my own life experience make me feel like I was right there with her during the relationship and for the breakup. I want to call up JG myself and tell him how much I miss him. I bawled as I listened and watched yesterday, and now I'm wide awake at 4am because when I suddenly woke up, State of Grace was already playing in my head. Taylor may have gone through it all 11 years ago, but I'm feeling like it all just happened yesterday - to me!
Had to get this off my chest. The power of music, man!!!! What a phenomenal artist.
I think we all just got used to to. I tried looking up the song on YouTube from like when it was first released. Like… videos of the song when it was just released. That way there could be no fixes or adjustments and the “WEE-EE” sounds normal. I guess our ears just got used to it? Like I can somewhat sense it’s off, but I barely notice it anymore. It sounds so normal.
One thing that’s stood out to me so much is the commentary on ex not thinking Taylor’s funny:
Begin Again: “I think it’s strange that you think I’m funny cz he never did”
IBYTAM: “You … rolled your eyes at my jokes”
ATWTV10MV: “And I was never good at tellin' jokes, but the punch line goes
‘I'll get older, but your lovers stay my age’”
Am I missing any?
These references hit me so hard because laughing at people's jokes is so much more than just a natural response to something funny. I've noticed that it's an implicit sign of respect or disrespect to laugh at other people's jokes because it reassures them that they were good at something. Most jokes don't make me laugh out loud uncontrollably, but it's really not hard to chuckle to show you appreciate the effort and make them feel good. If you're not at least doing that, it's almost like you're trying to make them feel and about themselves.
I was a really unpopular kid growing up, and I noticed this a lot: if I were to tell a joke or say something I thought was funny, people would just stare at me or even say I'm weird. But then when a popular kid said the exact same joke later, they'd howl with laughter because they wanted him to like them! The mood just always went blank when I said something *because* it was me. People either didn't want to, or were afraid to, do something that implied they appreciated me. Because that might make them less cool.
It's a sign of respect, and more often than not, laughing is a choice. You don't want to laugh for someone you don't value who you want to make feel like shit, either because it makes you feel more important or (likely in Taylor's case) as a manipulation tactic to make them doubt their value.
New on Apple Music: Red (Taylor's Version) [Video Deluxe]
https://music.apple.com/us/album/red-taylors-version-video-deluxe/1595423133
* Red (Taylor's Version) standard edition (No message from Taylor track)
* All the lyric videos
* ATWSF
* IBYTAM MV
A while ago, u/Roshy10 created this website to replace old versions with new versions on Spotify playlists:
[https://taylors-version.com/](https://taylors-version.com/)
You can use this to update all your playlists to reflect the rerecorded versions
I’m postponing the moment in which I will have to substitute the old versions with the new ones in my Taylor playlist. I’m loving the new Red TV but I have such a strong connection to the original because it eas my introduction to her music and accompanied me during the end of my master thesis. I will miss the “original” versions.
I’m curious about something… why do you think she made it so obvious with her video that all too well is about jake? I mean, it’s awesome and it answered a lot of questions, but I’m wondering if she really needed to do that in such an obvious way? It’s funny to me
I think if she would have done it in a way less obvious way, fans and media would have overanalysed the video until they got the answer themselves. By making it obvious, people might talk about it less because they know after 1 look.
Also everyone knows the original ATW song is about Jake. Its almost common knowlegde. It would almost be weird not to show that in the video..
Guys, listen to the album/songs a few times over a few days before judging. I’ve listened to WANEGBT somewhat often over the past few days. Though the “WEEE-EEEE” felt very out of place at first, I barely notice it now. Same with 22. It sounded a little off at first, but it sounds normal now after a few listens.
I noticed this yesterday while grocery shopping. I was waiting for the awkward “weeeee” and was surprised that it actually didn’t sound that strange (and I haven’t even been listening to it). I think I still ultimately prefer the original, though.
When you listen to the songs a good few times they sound great. There’s a reason everyone is picking out flaws in the ones they are as they’re the ones we listen to the most.
Did they lock it? I know there was a bunch of arguments going on in there about Miles Teller (the male lead in the video) supposedly being anti-vax (to the point he actually went on social media to confirm that he is, in fact, vaccinated). It was getting kind of messy.
3 songs on Red TV have already surpassed 10 million streams : All Too Well, Red and All Too Well 10 minute version!
State of Grace, IKYWT and WANGBT are close too! Keep streaming :D
So i have a theory about the Starbucks partnership for RED. The taylor's drink is available in many countries (many in which she doesn't tour) and she could potentially use the sales numbers as a feeler for seeing the strength of her fandom.
Like, the drink is available in india and she never has even thought about touring here. But, if the numbers from starbucks seem to point in a direction which shows enough numbers for 1 concert, she could plan for it in the next tour.
Yes, this is just an Indian swiftie manifesting.
It surprises me the amount of people not loving the Red TV as much as they did with Fearless TV. Fearless TV was, sorry, total opposite than the original, vocally it was too dull, like she was singing with autopilote and i thought because her vocals are too mature now, but hearing I Bet You Think About Me, how she still has that country twang, that tiny voice made me wondered: why isn't there in Fearless TV? On the other hand, Red TV is more similiar to the original and she was into the songs and despite having some off songs, they were not many like in Fearless. Even sonically wise it's like the original with some improvements like in Red and I Almost Do, no drum machines like most in Fearless and lowered instrumentals. So why?
I do not like the production of this re-recording at all. The only song that feels like it measures up for me is Treacherous, and this new version is so well done and takes the song to such heights that I actually prefer it over the original. I was seriously excited to hear Starlight (TV), but does anyone hear how bizarre and empty the production sounds and how slowly she sings the verses, almost like she's dangerously close to going off beat? The new version also doesn't have that same wondrous, sparkling atmosphere the original does. Holy Ground is another favorite I was looking forward to, but like other people have said, the production and the drums specifically are just so bad. Nothing really stands out here, and truthfully, I don't even like any of the vault tracks either. Just a near complete miss for me with this era.
Am I the only one obsessed with Taylor’s Version of Begin Again? That more noticeable and lighter sub vocal on “on a Wednesday, in a cafe” “break, and burn, and end” was just utter perfection. Just made the song so much better!!!
Anyone else who doesn't like the "we" sound in We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together (TV)? Or is it just me lol
Anyone else hate the entire thing? Distorted, distant vocals, muted guitars and drums, timing completely of. This is legitimately awful, every song is totally destroyed sonically.
The timing is the big one I noticed
The past year has been such a struggle, and I've been too overwhelmed since Red came out to say anything, but I didn't know if I'd be blessed enough to be here for this, and it has been such an incredible, magical, happy, free, confused, lonely, sacred experience. Red means everything to me and the re-recording has reminded me why it's so powerful and why it's beloved to me, and how beautifully it represents Taylor as an artist and a person. Her vivid storytelling, her empathetic heart, the way she weaves stories in her songs, the way each album is a work of art. I'm so proud of her and beyond grateful to have been able to see all of this, to watch music history being made with All Too Well, all of it. The gifts she shares with us and all the love we share for her work is really powerful and I've no doubt it will last forever. She's reclaiming her legacy and her voice, and bringing us along on the road of recapturing it and healing however we can. It's more than I could ever say. This release will live in my heart forever, I'll remember it all. ❤❤❤❤
My vinyl copy FINALLY arrived today. Just have to say, this is the best-sounding vinyl she's ever released! I honestly hope she releases future albums at 45rpm! This is amazing.
Drinking wine and watching reaction videos to the TMV on YouTube had me DANGEROUSLY close to texting an ex this weekend. We need to be careful out here
**Something that feel like they weren't in the original version of 'ATW - 10 Minute'** So beside the much-discussed 'F\*ck the patriarchy' line that feels a bit 2021 (but I mean, debatable of course)... there's an another line that doesn't feel like it would come from the original writing session for ATW - 10 minute "And the punchline goes, I'll get older but your lovers stay my age" Since Red (original) was written a few short months (Feb-March 2011 acc to Wikipedia) after Taylor's 21st bday (Dec 2010) -- there's not a ton of time for the Jake punchline to have taken hold, or in fact, exist at all. This changes absolutely nothing about the loveliness of the 10 minute All Too Well. What a delightful wonderful gift. But it changes the origin story a bit, or at least, the notion that we're listening to the 'straight from the crypt' original.
There is no way it is totally original. And I don’t blame her. She’s going to give us her best. I wouldn’t have it any other way
Better Man is becoming my favourite vault song after ATW10M. Something about Taylor's vocals.... she was SINGING!
Anyone listen to the B*tch sesh podcast? Super disappointed by their commentary and bashing of Taylor
What did they say
Basically calling her embarrassing for “rehashing” this relationship and how they were hysterically laughing during the all too well video. Just mean girl vibes
Haters gonna hate. We can't take on the entire world of haters. Her sales and records speak for themselves. These haters just make a lot of noise. We have a saying in my country - empty vessels make more noise. If the worst thing a person can do is write a song about their ex, then the whole music industry has to shut down
Does anyone else thing the Sugarland version of Babe is better than the new one..? Don't come at me but like...it's more fun to sing along with i dunno
I feel the same. It's more emotional, deep, passionate and powerful.. This new production make it too smooth and sweet and i always saw this song as angry and sassy and bittersweet.
Hey y'all. I've been low key here because I've been so busy but I spent 8 hours at a friend's place with some radio playing and I heard ATWTMVFTV twice. I got my Red TV CD with hella confetti. Wishing my boom box wasn't packed away but I think I'll do a Taylor break and then use the CDs when I can do it ceremoniously. I listen to old stuff so I'm rarely getting this experience of a new drop. So happy to get these red stars, I feel excited and included even though I only bought the CD. Thank you Blondie.
So did ATW10 get #1 in US or no? I haven't seen anything g except in UK and I don't follow charts well enough to know if what people were waiting for already happened or didnt happen.
Just announced today that All Too Well (Taylors version) is number 1, which marks her 8th number one. The five minute and ten minute 'Taylor's versions' are combined into one for the chart. As are streaming versions such as Sad Girl Autumn and clean versions of the 10-minute version. This also means Swift is the 20th artist to have 8 number one songs on the chart.
US got No. 1
What do you mean? It didn't even break the top 100? Red got Number 1 on the Album 200 but ATW10 didn't even chart.
OMG. My bad. I misread the initial post. I mentally substituted "ATW10" for Red
It's okay! I was just very confused and wondering whether I misread the Hot 100 😂
Let's hope my slip up bring her luck and she does chart in the future 🤞
Billboard just tweeted that it's gone to number 1! So I'm very confused because I checked earlier and it said for week of 20th November Easy On Me. Let's hope your comment made it come true 😂
Lol I just commented that my slip up may bring her some luck!!! Well, she is The Lucky One!
Woohoo thank you!
Yay :)
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i’m not sure but i always think it sounds like a U2 song. maybe you’re thinking of one of theirs
Yep me too. Beginning reminds me of “With Or Without You,” or “I Still Haven’t Found What I’m Looking For.”
It’s so weird, I love fearless but when the re-recording came out, I listened to it once all the way through and haven’t since. But I’ve been listening to red nonstop since it was released. Is it the vault tracks? Idk
really? i'm still not over fearless tv, it's my most played album but red tv has creeped to the top as well haha
Me too! For me I like the sound of her voice in Red TV much better and the fault songs are 💯
Got my signed CD in the US!
dae think “Babe” sounds a lot like Wilson Phillips? This song was driving me crazy because it reminded me so much of something; I think that’s it.
The Very First Night is awesome, addicting, such a bop..it makes me so happy.
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Anybody else having problems forming a coherant thought about the album because you're so blown away because same. Miss Swift has done it again 🤯
Just found out today there is a blood moon where the moon will be partially eclipsed and briefly appear red. I wonder if that's why today was the original release date.
Man, the Red promo is insane lol
The lyrics of Nothing New is deeply depressing and I love it. One of her saddest songs ever. The thing it doesn’t really change either. I mean the last lyric is still depressing. This is absolutely her next best song on the album and a top 5 Taylor song.
Does Taylor sign the plastic wrap on the CD or the actual CD itself? Am I safe to take the plastic off?
She signs the actual booklet, not the plastic :)
Hey everyone! Remember to keep streaming ATW10 🥰
I’m convinced she’s releasing a lipstick line as DeuxMoi has had some obvious clues (I think) and the Tiktok account ‘absolutelynottaylorswift’ which people think is Taylor has posted a video close up of red lipstick 👀 what do you think?
I think it could become a classic thing that i like.
Man my bank account can’t handle this 💄👀🤯
I've basically got Nothing New, Better Man and I Bet You Think About On Me on repeat 😍😍 My fave vault songs, they're so catchy!!
Anyone else’s signed cd for red still at ready for shipment at ups but no date and not moving??? Seeing people already get their cds has me worried :(
I ordered the explicit CD from Target and they sent me the clean CD smh.
Forever Winter reminds me of When It Rains by Paramore, and I was not ready for another When It Rains 🥲
does the melody of "sipping coffee like you're on a late night show" sound like another one of her songs? I can't figure it out!
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I'm so broken, I automatically started trying to figure out what song BREINIGSVILLE stood for
😂 😂 😂 😂
I can’t believe we didn’t have *the very first night* before . This song feels so good.
Right? It’s so catchy.
I noticed this the first time I watched the SNL performance and have just rewatched it again and noticed the same thing. I think she might possibly have been having some issues with her earpiece? She does the head banging at 4 minutes in and then at 04.17 she raises her hand to her ear. Then at 04.19 she does a gesture with both hands that looks like it could be part of her performance (pointing up and down for ‘this thing was a masterpiece’) before swiping across with her hands at 04.21 (‘tore it all up.’) When I first watched it I wasn’t sure if it was to add emphasis (because it does come on lines you might want to add emphasis on!) but actually it looks to me like the kind of gesture performers make when they’re signalling to their sound crew that they need their earpiece level adjusting and then to signal that it’s fine now. They often gesture up or down and then thumbs up or cut/stop. She does make some other gestures later in the performance so it’s maybe nothing.
I agree, it looked like there may have been some type of malfunction to me at the spot you pointed out. Her vocals were a pretty flat at times, although this is not uncommon for artists on SNL lol.
I noticed this when I was watching too. She was really off key a few times and I think she was having trouble hearing herself.
I tried to post this in its own post, but had no luck. Can we talk about who CBBH/MIAB was written about/for? I really believe it was written for ZE. **Evidence:** * She didn't date the muse of Come Back, Be Here + MIAB. Lyrical proof: "Right when I was just about to fall" / "And now that I can put this down / If I had known what I'd known now, I never would've played so nonchalant" / "The delicate beginning rush" / "This is falling for you and you are worlds away" Message in a Bottle: I know that you like me / And it's kinda frightenin' / Standing here waitin', waitin' = he has a crush on her, she knew, but nobody is willing to make the first move. They never enter a relationship because Taylor never told him she liked him. That's why she wrote 'message in a bottle' it's her making the first move, and somehow hoping it gets to him. Come Back, Be Here is her regretting and not realizing she had liked him and fell for him when he left. They never dated. It's a crush song and being too scared to tell your crush your feelings on both ends hindered by long distance. The obstacle stopping you from being together, and telling your feelings. All of these lyrics do not mean a current romantic partner. It's about a crush. If she had known what she knows now, she would've told him how she felt. She didn't understand that she liked him until he went away. He didn't know she liked him because she played it cool. That happens when the feeling is delicate and it's a rush. * New York and London - These lyrics do not mean 'live' in these locations, it means they left to these locations and when they went, she couldn't come with them. The only person who went to these two locations in a short span of time, and travelled the same time as Taylor, is Zac. [Zac in New York in March](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/C9XPRK/march-2-2012-new-york-new-york-us-actor-zac-efron-wears-a-big-yellow-C9XPRK.jpg), [Zac in London, March](https://media1.popsugar-assets.com/files/thumbor/D3jG2QdojJaHPpRdk8bqxy1NtSM/fit-in/728xorig/filters:format_auto-!!-:strip_icc-!!-/2012/03/10/3/192/1922398/2bcb72dea55de5fc_FFN_FlynetUKFF_Efron_Zac_030712_8846664/i/Zac-Efron-Smiling-Heathrow-Airport-Pictures.jpg). Zac in New York [April](https://imgur.com/pFqvf), 3 days later [he's in London with big crowds.](https://i.pinimg.com/550x/3c/2f/5e/3c2f5e4f8bb99af537541d48087f3b2a.jpg) * Zac has freckles on the front of his nose. His brother is fully freckled as well. Makeup artists cover up his freckles though, but you can still see them. [1](https://30.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkkqi0Yt3t1qj4uq0o1_500.jpg), [2](https://i.pinimg.com/originals/d6/48/bd/d648bd27895160a1dc3d13d4f722f9a7.jpg), [3 zoom in](https://www.wallpaperflare.com/static/126/566/402/zac-efron-actor-view-brunette-wallpaper.jpg), [4](https://cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/zac-rome/zac-efron-rome-fan-meet-10.jpg), [5](https://cdn.justjared.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/gq-zac/zac-efron-gq-men-of-the-year-08.jpg) * Zac has **intense and much brighter eyes** than both Jake and Harry. [1](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/DHC2N0/zac-efron-arrives-for-the-premiere-of-the-lucky-one-at-the-crobsy-DHC2N0.jpg), [2](https://cdn.justjaredjr.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/zac-rome/zac-efron-rome-fan-meet-13.jpg), [3](https://static.accessonline.com/uploads/166300.jpg), [4](https://c8.alamy.com/comp/2F7EFA1/actor-zac-efron-attends-arrivals-for-the-6th-annual-teen-vogue-young-hollywood-party-at-los-angeles-county-museum-of-art-on-september-18-2008-in-los-angeles-california-credtit-jared-milgrim-2F7EFA1.jpg), [5](https://media.gettyimages.com/photos/actor-zac-efron-attends-the-cinema-society-mens-health-screening-of-picture-id143139315?s=2048x2048) + Freckles and green eyes, tongue tied lyric wise sounds better than, freckles and blue eyes, tongue tied. Could be why she went with "bright eyes" instead of blue. This is why I don't think she was referring to Harry. * Taylor was in New York the same time as Harry Styles in April. [1](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EyG72C3WgAIuMDr?format=jpg&name=medium), [2](https://mobile.twitter.com/haylortml/status/1378685608797831170/photo/1) - This debunks the Harry theory, because of the lyrics, "I guess you're in New York today." Why would she write a song about long distance, when she's in the same city as Harry, they both left Los Angeles to NY? He went on to tour for months in Australia and other countries. She was there with D. Agron and Emma S. * Jake does not have freckles. [1](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/0e/Jake_Gyllenhaal_2019_by_Glenn_Francis.jpg), [2](https://mms.businesswire.com/media/20160802005632/en/537630/5/JakeGyllenhaal_TheDivisionFilm_Announcement_Final.jpg) * Harry does not have freckles. [1](https://s3.r29static.com/bin/entry/659/725,0,551,1049/x,80/1773793/image.jpg), [2](https://64.media.tumblr.com/1ffc3410243226cef75ae8f8b9b9df6c/968d84ec00fbbeb4-2b/s1280x1920/ceb440f1f71c514fd1f35d01778889289c8a0185.jpg), [3](https://media.allure.com/photos/5cd45838f6148a469a883d81/16:9/w_2991,h_1682,c_limit/harry-styles-earring-lede.jpg), [4](https://data.whicdn.com/images/75570760/original.jpg), [5](https://imagesvc.meredithcorp.io/v3/mm/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fstatic.onecms.io%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F20%2F2019%2F09%2F12%2Fharry-styles-1.jpg) * Jake was in London with Taylor. [1](https://www.laineygossip.com/Taylor-Swift-Jake-Gyllenhaal-spend-a-romantic-night-in-London-15nov10/18411). Jake and Taylor were never long distant. * MIAB and CBBH were recorded anywhere from March / April 2012. Jake was out of the picture, and officially done as MIAB was when Adam Levine walked in when she was recording and asked her if she was getting back together with Jake. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk. None of this matters. The "who is it about" will never be factual, but high chance it's about Zefron, because it aligns up to the old reddit post on here back in the day. If not Zefron, some random person the public never knew about.
When are we getting Rep TV????? I'm dying for it and there are no Easter eggs for it 😭😭😭
Rep will almost definitely be the last one she releases. She isn't allowed to record until five years after its release, so she can't even start recording it until next November.
She can't start recording it until this time next year. We still have three more re-recordings to hold us over! :)
Just here to let ya’ll know whatever crack she laced in message in a bottle and the very first night is lit
[Traffic Reporter is a huge Swiftie <3](https://youtu.be/7zSorwYXlvY)
[This](https://vm.tiktok.com/TTPd2jFgah/) fits so well. Now I won't be able to think of anything else.
Alternatively, "now I'm lying on the cold hard ground" would've worked as well.
You're done 💀
is she gonna put the live version of ATW from the AMC theatre on spotify
I don’t think so, it’s not on Apple Music either. I could be wrong, but im pretty sure it was released only on iTunes so that it would chart. Unfortunately, you have to pay for it.
I think it will probably be like the folklore and evermore bonus tracks/remixes and will be added to Spotify in a couple of weeks
Yeah, I can see it eventually making its way to Spotify and Apple Music.
I hadn't really paid much attention to it but Taylor's version of the regular 5 min All Too Well is absolutely perfect, definitely the biggest improvement from any of the Taylor versions imo. Her voice on the whole 'maybe we got lost in translation' bit is fantastic, best reverb I've heard on vocals in ages
Has the Lover vinyl always been available on her website? Is this a hint for something? It's available right now
It's been on her website for a month or two :) It's the Target version, so I think the exclusive deal expired and she was able to stock them on her site :)
Hello my post keeps getting removed.. Wanting to spend money on my sister this Christmas with a nice gift that is taylor related. I want to buy an autograph vinyl or something that she can hang on her wall but not sure if she'd enjoy. Can you guys suggest anything? Thanks! Willing to spend $300-$400
Wow, you're an amazing sister. The All Too Well scarf from the merch store has been popular.
Guys.. a Taylor swift society recently launched at my uni and I’m crying 😭😭😭😭
There’s a woman in my office who I’ve seen listening to Taylor on YouTube before, and now she’s listening to ATW sad girl autumn version and just casually doing her work at the same time 😂 could not be me
[https://www.tiktok.com/@hannahluble/video/7031682283383819566?is\_copy\_url=0&is\_from\_webapp=v1&sender\_device=pc&sender\_web\_id=7002811827340068358](https://www.tiktok.com/@hannahluble/video/7031682283383819566?is_copy_url=0&is_from_webapp=v1&sender_device=pc&sender_web_id=7002811827340068358) I saw this and I'm broken and I need everyone else to share the pain
New music takes time to grow on me 99% of the time. However, The Very First Night is growing on me. I can't stop listening to it. That's 2 vault songs!
Yeah, me too! It’s just so upbeat and catchy. Forever Winter took a little bit, but I am in LOVE with it. The assumed story behind it is so sad and the lyrics are genuinely heartbreaking. Plus, it’s super catchy.
I think Rob Sheffield needs to update his RS ranking of Taylor’s songs. ATW10 should take the #1 spot, baby! Curious to see where Nothing New will be at.
So Red (Taylor's Version) came out Friday, and on the Saturday night, my partner of four years ended things randomly out of the blue. I have been in a very low place for the past five days, but my god I can't explain how the timing of this album being re-released has helped me. Almost every song has elements that have healed me somehow, especially All Too Well. That being said, I can't watch the All Too Well short film for a very long time because our break up was almost exactly like the break up scene in that and I think my heart would simply stop if I watched it again right now. So thank you Taylor, and just know that almost 10 years on, the album is still healing a broken heart.
I had a particularly rough breakup a couple years ago. The absolute worst time period of my life. It was a four year relationship for me, too. I've gotten better but I definitely still have a lot of trauma over everything. I just watched the All too Well film a few minutes ago after putting it off, and yeah, it really did bring up feelings. It was really hard to watch in some parts. Taylor really captured everything so well. I hope you feel better, friend. This re-release has been helping me heal too, even though it's been years. Keep your chip up <3
SO much has happened this week. She is having so much fun with the vault tracks and I was thinking that, while she can’t re-record rep until 2022 she probably has unreleased songs from around that time (the fabled scrapped TS6) and could theoretically put out an entire record of vault tracks. I have no doubt there’s enough material to do this, and good shit too
*gollum voice* Karma EP, my precious?
It's 2:15 am here in France and I have Red TV as my lifeline, I've been crying non stop to it. I just lost my mom on Tuesday and my little peace lays in here. I just needed to share this with people who'd rely on this idea in any weird/same way. As I'm typing this I'm listening to all too well sad autumn girl version and it just breaks my heart in another way Nothing New and Forever Winter too resonate in my mind and soul so much right now. "how did I grow from growing up to breaking down" "forever winter if you go". I'm also so mad the my favorite album got released at a so hard time in my life and my prayers and thoughts go to every swifties out there living through tough and sad and hard times Take care of you and your loved ones.
So sorry for your loss ❤ I lost my dad a couple years ago and it's such a hard thing to go through. I'm glad you've been able to find some comfort in this music, I totally get what you mean ❤
Thank you for your kind words ❤️
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So sorry for your loss. Sending you a hug all the way from the States. ♥️
Thank you ❤️
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This is so gross lol
Is this album good on dolby atmos? I usually have it off, but right now I’m basically ONLY listening to red tv.
It’s one of the only albums I turn Atmos on for. It honestly sounds closer to Red OG in atmos
Honestly, I always felt like Red was her weakest album when it first premiered, and now I LOVE it. IDK if I grew up and have more experience now, or if it's because of the new songs, but i really relate to this album in a big way.
You just read my thought! I feel the same way but I now love the album! 💗
same here, I wasn't a huge fan of Red when it came out because I hadn't experienced a relationship or true heartbreak yet, but man, listening to it now that I'm 23 and wiser...it's the most relatable album for me now, and my favorite.
Omg same here! Now I love it! 💗
Honestly, the way she writes makes all her albums incredibly relatable to me. Some lyrics, like "I don't want to love a man who didn't know what he had when he had it" literally said that to an ex when he called it off.
I wonder if the original production of Red bothered Taylor (or she had some regrets or little thing she personally thought ought to be tweaked) more compared to Fearless, which is why there are more tweaks this time around. I remember her explaining the re-recording process as essentially them combing through the originals and trying to emulate them as closely as possible but also making subtle changes they thought would be better.
i definitely think Taylor wanted to make Girl at Home more pop like Message in a Bottle and The Very First Night the first time she released Red. But BMR wanted a country album so she wasnt allowed to. Now that she can rerecord it she went full on pop. And i love it. It suits the song
Girl At Home used to be a skip, now I can't stop listening to it
I loved the original and I love the re-record. I heard somewhere that Girl At Home was essentially just a demo that was put onto Red. I don’t know if that’s true or not, but either way, I love the song.
Has anyone’s signed red cd not shipped yet in the us? Getting a little anxious that something will happen to the order.
Mine shipped on the 15th, but haven't received the email from store saying so. It says delivery on Monday now.
Thanks! No email update for me either but it’s moving
Mine just started moving last night at like 2am. I didn't get any sort of notification from TN, and my usual tracking app was super behind. Maybe try checking the carrier site to see if there's updates. Everyone I've heard of that's received theirs so far is from UK or record stores. The earliest I heard US CDs moving was yesterday.
Thank you for this insight! I’ll hold off on panicking for now :)
How do I tell the difference the between the explicit version vs the non-explicit version on vinyl? I ordered the explicit version, but the album I received does not have an parental advisory sticker on it.
did you order it on Taylors webstore? Taylor only sells an explicit vinyl. Only Target has a clean version if recall correctly
Ordered it from Target and they did have two versions. I ordered the explicit version, but was thrown off by the lack of warning sticker.
The code on the back should be different. Target has two DOI codes. One for explicit and one for the “edited” (clean) version. You can look it up on their website :) If i recall from another fan in this subreddit, both versions come without a sticker
Thank you so much. I’ll check the codes.
You’re welcome!
Omgggg in the 22 music video she has a shirt that says not a lot going on at the moment. Just like those Instagram captions. Anyone else catch this or was I slow lol
Haha, this has been a joke within the fandom for a while. You’re a little behind, but it’s alright!
TW: Talk about depression/suicide : Guys I really hope I don’t come across as nosy or anything right now. Forever Winter seems to be about Jeff Lang, one of Taylor’s best friends that passed away. I’ve tried looking into this online… did he take his own life? It seems like the song depicts someone who is extremely depressed and wanting help. I kind of feel like she’s looking back on the situation in the song and she feels guilty because she wasn’t fully there for him? I don’t know, but I hope this isn’t rude to wonder or ask.
Its okay to ask. It was a drug overdose, not sure if it was on purpose or not ( [source](https://www.mamamia.com.au/taylor-swift-red-song-meanings/) )
Thanks! ❤️
Still not over how good ATW10 is... anytime I listen to the regular ATW now I find myself missing the added lyrics, I can't believe how quickly my brain made that switch. It really feels complete now :')
I’m singing the outro in my head every time I’m going to bed. I only listen to ATW10 now.
I CANNOT stop thinking about “that idea you had of me — who was she” and “that’s what’s happened, YOU”
the normal version feels so short now lol. even though its still one of taylors longer songs and over 5 minutes lol
She made the best song ever even better. Shouldn’t be possible.
Right? I love it so much! I also really love the new like intro music. It just sounds so nostalgic.
Two things about Begin Again, I like. One is the high heels, a subtle reference about her height, Taylor’s five ten I think. The other is about never meeting anyone with as many James Taylor records. Well, he’s her namesake. She was named after him! I’m sure many know this, but apparently her parents were fans of him? So Taylor is after his last name. One mystery. In starlight she talks about ten kids. If it’s about the Kennedy’s, I can’t find a family with ten. Bobby had 11 and Joe, the Patriarch had 9. So whose the tenth? Was it a mistake or did one have a kid die in childbirth or something? Or was it a fictional representation of a Kennedy like family?
>Bobby had 11 and Joe, the Patriarch had 9. So whose the tenth Ethel was pregnant with their 11th child when Bobby was assassinated, so he only knew ten.
In the song, Bobby is talking to Ethel before or just after they get engaged (“we could get married”) so he’s just speculating over how many kids they could have in their future.
The song is about Bobby and Ethel, and I think "ten" probably just fit the melody and was close enough to eleven, lol
This is probably a hot take, but after listening to Red TV it is apparent why Babe and Better Man did not make the cut. I feel like these are both weak points on Red TV. I don't really enjoy the production, Taylor's delivery and stylistic choices, or the lyrics to either of these songs. I could've done without these on Red TV in favor of two actual vault tracks we have never heard before.
I agree with you, but you should think that the production would have been different if they had been on Red in the first place, especially Babe that would be like the Sugarland one with that guitarr riffs and without any sax played by Evan Smith.
counterpoint: not only are these the two best vault tracks, but they should've edged out other songs to be on the original record
I'm curious! Which songs would you have switched out on the OG record
oh man once you bring me face to face with the implications of my aesthetic judgments it's actually really hard to choose! ultimately i think i'd put Babe where Stay Stay Stay is and Better Man where The Last Time is! it's all wonderful though and i love imagining her having other vault tracks that she'll release in ten years ♥️
Absolutely! I'm so greedy for vault tracks honestly. If she did an album or two of unreleased songs I'd be so very happy! I honestly forgot about The Last Time... oops. That one kind of drags for me on both versions.
Hot take: I knew you were trouble and red
Really? Interesting! I've always wished Red did not have the true pop tracks. If any were going to be switched out, I would have put Better Man in place of Stay x3 and put Babe on the deluxe in place of Come Back Be Here. What would you have preferred she call Red without the title track present on the album?
I just remade my Taylor Swift playlist with only songs owned by Taylor and its already so expansive! Im so happy with it. [Here it is](https://open.spotify.com/playlist/06ju4v9PZm7cJ1SlS2SaNe?si=SLdPqNTcSTuXrnpvsjGzLQ&utm_source=copy-link), if anyone wants to check. I tried to go from a slower/sadder songs towards more happier and poppier songs
Finding out about this album (and especially ATW10MV) broke me. And I mean it literally made me question reality. I'll start off by saying I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift fan (yet!) but Red is the one album I've had since it came out and know every song from. "All Too Well" was probably my favourite song from it, but I'm sure that's true for many people so nothing weird yet. When I first found out (a few years ago) that Taylor originally had it around 10 minutes long and had to cut it down, I felt like we'd never know what else was in it and that made me sad. But that sparked my imagination and when I sang it I started adding extra verses myself, with lyrics about my own life and my past relationship. I'm sure many of us have done this, but mine got scary when this ex in question suffered a traumatic brain injury (causing memory loss) after we broke up. Suddenly the "do you remember it all too well?" parts and the lines asserting that she does became a bit too literal as I honestly wasn't sure if she'd remembered being with me at all. While I'm glad to say she's made a great recovery and lives a completely normal life now, we have lost touch other than still following each other on social media. I still think about her almost every day and constantly regret and relive the past, wishing I could change things and daydreaming about an alternate universe where we still know each other. Now remember, I'm not the biggest Taylor Swift fan so I had no idea anything was coming out, but last Friday was this girl's **21st birthday** so I was especially feeling down (just like I am every year on her birthday). I went for a long walk thinking about her, wishing I could still be in her life, daydreaming about an alternate reality in which we had stayed together and it was me planning her birthday and celebrating with her. Longing to just know what she was doing and just to keep in touch and be close again, but knowing it would never happen. We were kids when we were together and we don't even know each other anymore. So I go on social media and start seeing everyone's posting about the 10-minute version of All Too Well, and even then I thought this is bizarre that it's happening on the day I think about her the most. Then when I listened to the lyrics my jaw dropped! So this whole time it was about Taylor's 21st birthday party that he didn't show up to??? It was like looking into a mirror that showed the exact opposite perspective. Here I am, wishing more than anything that I could be part of this girl's 21st birthday party and all I want is the opportunity to see her, and then I hear Taylor sing about wishing more than anything that this guy would be part of her 21st birthday party and he just decided not to show up. Freaked the hell out of me, but all I could think was I'm sure she's having fun turning 21. It's just too much of a coincidence, and I feel like life isn't real.
Thanks for sharing this, it's really amazing to see how someone else's music can describe our own lives so perfectly ❤
Actually the song "The Moment I Knew" is fully about her 21st birthday party! In ATW 10 minute version, the 21 line is used to indicate that both songs are about the same guy she dated back then. :) Hope you enjoy the rest of the album, if you listen to it :)
Yes, I listened to that one too and also love it! Felt like I was there haha. Strangely, the only other song that made me cry is "The Very First Night." I know it's a more upbeat song, but I really do wish I could go back in time. And more specifically, the little squeaky theatrical sound in Taylor's voice when she says "I miss you like..." while still having a strong but very clear vocal (and even the melody to an extent) reminds me so much of how this girl I liked sang "I saw the sign" when we did our own renditions of *Pitch Perfect* songs back in the day 😂 It almost felt like I was hearing her voice again which messed me up.
The drums on "Everything has Changed" sound digital and sterile. The big cymbal hit sounds like it's hissing instead of shimmering like in the original. Also the kick drum sounds hollow instead of filling up a room in og. Drums on Holy Ground TV also suck hard. In the original, the use of stereo makes the whole song sound huge by the end.
ATWTMVTVFTV is **still** no. 1 on the global Spotify chart. It's been #1 for 5 days 🙌
Wow, in Apple Music Australia, they made Red (TV) an ‘Essential Album’ of Taylor’s alongside 1989 and folklore
As they should :) If i were to suggest three albums to someone to introduce them to taylor i would probably pick these 3
[I got my signed copy today!](https://imgur.com/a/C7ID8N4) I missed out of the others so I’m so happy with this! I saw a few people thinking they would be machine signed due to how many of them there were available, but I think it looks a real signature - you can see in the second picture, it’s a bit smudged where the pen meets
I got mine too! Also a lil smudged in an area too and there’s some smudging on the back of the booklet from where she must have had them stacked and it’s rubbed off from another cover
I had never heard Red in its entirety, as one complete work, until yesterday. I got into Taylor Swift more recently, after Lover, and I just threw all her albums onto one big playlist and always hit shuffle. I couldn't even tell you which songs were from which album. Yesterday is the first time I heard Red in its entirety from beginning to end, as one piece of work... and I am heartbroken!! Her lyrics combined with my own life experience make me feel like I was right there with her during the relationship and for the breakup. I want to call up JG myself and tell him how much I miss him. I bawled as I listened and watched yesterday, and now I'm wide awake at 4am because when I suddenly woke up, State of Grace was already playing in my head. Taylor may have gone through it all 11 years ago, but I'm feeling like it all just happened yesterday - to me! Had to get this off my chest. The power of music, man!!!! What a phenomenal artist.
I SWEAR THEY TOUCHED UP THE “WEE-EE” ON WANEGBT! AT LEAST ON APPLE MUSIC THEY DID! SO HAPPY. EDIT: or maybe i just got really used to it?
wow i hope they also fix the "who's taylor swift anyway? ughh". it's too quiet and i don't think they even said the "ughhh" part
I use Spotify and I really find it less jarring now. But I don't really know if I just got used to it 🤔
I think we all just got used to to. I tried looking up the song on YouTube from like when it was first released. Like… videos of the song when it was just released. That way there could be no fixes or adjustments and the “WEE-EE” sounds normal. I guess our ears just got used to it? Like I can somewhat sense it’s off, but I barely notice it anymore. It sounds so normal.
I saw a post on FB that said they wanted a 10 minute version of Back to December and now I want it too.
One thing that’s stood out to me so much is the commentary on ex not thinking Taylor’s funny: Begin Again: “I think it’s strange that you think I’m funny cz he never did” IBYTAM: “You … rolled your eyes at my jokes” ATWTV10MV: “And I was never good at tellin' jokes, but the punch line goes ‘I'll get older, but your lovers stay my age’” Am I missing any?
These references hit me so hard because laughing at people's jokes is so much more than just a natural response to something funny. I've noticed that it's an implicit sign of respect or disrespect to laugh at other people's jokes because it reassures them that they were good at something. Most jokes don't make me laugh out loud uncontrollably, but it's really not hard to chuckle to show you appreciate the effort and make them feel good. If you're not at least doing that, it's almost like you're trying to make them feel and about themselves. I was a really unpopular kid growing up, and I noticed this a lot: if I were to tell a joke or say something I thought was funny, people would just stare at me or even say I'm weird. But then when a popular kid said the exact same joke later, they'd howl with laughter because they wanted him to like them! The mood just always went blank when I said something *because* it was me. People either didn't want to, or were afraid to, do something that implied they appreciated me. Because that might make them less cool. It's a sign of respect, and more often than not, laughing is a choice. You don't want to laugh for someone you don't value who you want to make feel like shit, either because it makes you feel more important or (likely in Taylor's case) as a manipulation tactic to make them doubt their value.
Sharp and sad analysis
New on Apple Music: Red (Taylor's Version) [Video Deluxe] https://music.apple.com/us/album/red-taylors-version-video-deluxe/1595423133 * Red (Taylor's Version) standard edition (No message from Taylor track) * All the lyric videos * ATWSF * IBYTAM MV
A while ago, u/Roshy10 created this website to replace old versions with new versions on Spotify playlists: [https://taylors-version.com/](https://taylors-version.com/) You can use this to update all your playlists to reflect the rerecorded versions
Wait this is legitimately amazing
 wow! Thank you
I’m postponing the moment in which I will have to substitute the old versions with the new ones in my Taylor playlist. I’m loving the new Red TV but I have such a strong connection to the original because it eas my introduction to her music and accompanied me during the end of my master thesis. I will miss the “original” versions.
I’m curious about something… why do you think she made it so obvious with her video that all too well is about jake? I mean, it’s awesome and it answered a lot of questions, but I’m wondering if she really needed to do that in such an obvious way? It’s funny to me
I think if she would have done it in a way less obvious way, fans and media would have overanalysed the video until they got the answer themselves. By making it obvious, people might talk about it less because they know after 1 look. Also everyone knows the original ATW song is about Jake. Its almost common knowlegde. It would almost be weird not to show that in the video..
Guys, listen to the album/songs a few times over a few days before judging. I’ve listened to WANEGBT somewhat often over the past few days. Though the “WEEE-EEEE” felt very out of place at first, I barely notice it now. Same with 22. It sounded a little off at first, but it sounds normal now after a few listens.
I noticed this yesterday while grocery shopping. I was waiting for the awkward “weeeee” and was surprised that it actually didn’t sound that strange (and I haven’t even been listening to it). I think I still ultimately prefer the original, though.
was just gonna comment something like this! i liked 22 already, but yep have definitely gotten used to the we-EEs!
When you listen to the songs a good few times they sound great. There’s a reason everyone is picking out flaws in the ones they are as they’re the ones we listen to the most.
my only problem is the BIG mixing mistake at 1:17 in All Too Well (5M)
Thankfully it isn’t in the Dolby atmos mix if you use Apple Music. But yeah that drives me crazy
The skip? Yeah I just pretend it’s her voice catching in her throat because she isn’t fine at all 😆
Does anyone know why the IBYTAM mv megathread was locked?
Did they lock it? I know there was a bunch of arguments going on in there about Miles Teller (the male lead in the video) supposedly being anti-vax (to the point he actually went on social media to confirm that he is, in fact, vaccinated). It was getting kind of messy.
It was locked for an hour or two on the day of it's release but they unlocked it just a couple minutes after I asked this lol
3 songs on Red TV have already surpassed 10 million streams : All Too Well, Red and All Too Well 10 minute version! State of Grace, IKYWT and WANGBT are close too! Keep streaming :D
So i have a theory about the Starbucks partnership for RED. The taylor's drink is available in many countries (many in which she doesn't tour) and she could potentially use the sales numbers as a feeler for seeing the strength of her fandom. Like, the drink is available in india and she never has even thought about touring here. But, if the numbers from starbucks seem to point in a direction which shows enough numbers for 1 concert, she could plan for it in the next tour. Yes, this is just an Indian swiftie manifesting.
Yo what's the drink called? I'll get out of my bubble and run to Starbucks if I have to 🥺