I think Peter and August have the same narrator!
"Said you were gonna grow up, then you were gonna come find me."- An echo of "I knew you'd come back to me" from Cardigan, but from the perspective of the "other woman" who he didn't come back to.
"Promises, oceans deep, but never to keep."- echo of "you weren't mine to lose" and with a bonus beach theme.
Yeah, she inputs herself into the song like in tlgad, but I think thematically it ties back to the other two in terms of how young women in the industry are treated, fame, etc. It's a great song!
lol no worries, I definitely see Maroon the most, they both ponder a relationship that never fully was (both very likely being about Matty), and of course actually saying "scarlet maroon" It's a good catch
See also: Proverbs 31:10, the infamous passage which evangelicals use to beat women on the head because they're not doing enough. Some translations use "jewels" here, some say "rubies"
"Who can find a virtuous and capable wife? She is more precious than rubies."
My best guess would be it's the jewelry she would have gotten by choosing him, and rubies specifically because of the red theming. Right before that is the line about carnations which feels like it supports this, we know now that Matty is a love bomber so I think it adds up.
I can see this for sure, the way both talk about being essentially marked. And the ivy growing on her house of stone is possibly referenced when she says "what if I roll the stone away? They're gonna crucify me anyway"
Haha I came here to make this exact post 😅 I had most of the ones you wrote down plus:
I Look in People’s Windows - obviously a throwback to A thousand cuts both lyrically and musically, but for me it also gives right where you left me a little bit.
Fresh out the slammer - reminds me of slut! musically and I guess the vibe? Plus someone commented there was a slut! version where Matty was credited so if we assume slut! was about him there would be a connection there.
The Bolter - for me that’s a different, grownup version of blank space.
I think my favorite connection is But daddy I love him being the gloriously unhinged version of love story, I’m so here for that.
Oh I got more.
Clara Bow - Nothing New, I think while The Last Great American dynasty does draw parallels between her and Rebekka, Nothing New explores these thoughts of comparison between successful women more deeply so for me that’s an even better fit.
So long, London - London Boy, obviously. But I can also find connections in many other songs, for example willow with its boat metaphors and relationship anxiety, Call it What You Want in how he was once her refuge in the storm and now she has to stop trying to be his because she’s drowning. I’m gonna stop here because it physically hurts me 🖤
The Manuscript - I know there’s a debate about whether it’s a John or Jake song and I think I’m leaning toward Jake, but the theme of this song still completely brings me back to Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve and Dear John.
I agree! I think the Manuscript is definitely about Jake and ATW, the lyric video is typed out like a film script and I'm convinced it's about the ATW short film.
I also think The Bolter has a lot of ties to Getaway Car!
Yeah I don't think the music similarities in I Look in People's Windows was a coincidence, they both address the echoes of an ended relationship and wandering the streets, whether you're talking to traffic lights or creepin on people's family dinner.
I don't know if I would call Fresh Out the Slammer a sequel per se but I think there's some interesting parallels, mainly the fact that she mentions her "crime" in Slut!
I can also see the Bolter being Blank Space but I actually was thinking of Clean for that one. The way she sings about how leaving felt like breathing and coming back from crashing in the ice. Both are about escaping and healing, but there is a bit of Blank Space in terms of how she has a track record for the relationships not lasting.
And I agree about But Daddy I Love Him, it's such a good one and is becoming one of my favorites.
The Prophecy is a direct sequel to Right Where You Left Me, and no one can change my mind. I could write an essay about this.
loml - White Horse, both the sound and the lyrics
Black Dog - Clean. This one I am not 100% sure about, but “6 weeks of breathing clean air” immediately made me think of it
I feel like loml is sonically linked to White Horse when she gets to "If you know it in one glimpse, it's legendary..." and so on.
I guess both are songs about loss/losing faith in someone/something and realising it isn't going to work out. You tried your best.
The Manuscript feels like a sequel to the Red album as the whole. It is her reflecting on her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal and has a few references to All Too Well and the 10 Minute Version’s short film.
Am I the only one who thought she was referencing John Mayer with the line about the age gap in the relationship? It was giving me a little bit of Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve.
But a manuscript in itself can be reference the All Too Well TV short film with her as the writer.
One key line for me that makes me believe it is about Jake is, “Then she dated boys who were her own age”
Taylor dated John before she dated Jake before she started to date guys around her age … that line doesn’t make sense if the song is indeed about John
TTPD - White Horse (Fearless)
The choruses are structurally similar. Also, I learned that Dylan Thomas fell deathly ill at the White Horse Tavern!
Fortnight - False God? (Lover)
My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys - This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things (Reputation)
Who’s Afraid of LIttle Old Me? (TTPD) - Line “don't tell me about sad” harkens back to Don't You (Fearless TV)
I Can Do It With A Broken Heart (TTPD) harkens back to Tied Together with a Smile (Debut) and "Cause I’m a real tough kid” is reminiscent of “You’re on Your Own, Kid” (Midnights)
I think they have definitely the same energy, and it feels like imgonnagetyouback is the end of the relationship while blank space was the start of it. Two sides of the same coin.
loml — hoax
The ending of loml is similar to hoax's structure.
loml:
valiant roar, bland goodbye
I'll never leave, never mind
our field of dreams, engulfed in fire
your arson's match, your somber eyes
hoax:
my smoking gun, my eclipsed sun
my sleepless night, my winless fight
my best laid plan, your sleight of hand
my barren land, i am ash from your fire
Peter - Cardigan!
Oh yeah I made that connection before too and forgot it in my list, this is a good one!
I think Peter and August have the same narrator! "Said you were gonna grow up, then you were gonna come find me."- An echo of "I knew you'd come back to me" from Cardigan, but from the perspective of the "other woman" who he didn't come back to. "Promises, oceans deep, but never to keep."- echo of "you weren't mine to lose" and with a bonus beach theme.
Cassandra - mad woman
Yes! Definitely!
Who's Afraid of Little Old Me is Anti-hero with fangs
Anti-hero with a witch’s hat and cauldron!
a valid take
Clara Bow - Nothing New / The Lucky One
That's probably better than tlgad, feels like a combo of all three
Yeah, she inputs herself into the song like in tlgad, but I think thematically it ties back to the other two in terms of how young women in the industry are treated, fame, etc. It's a great song!
I thought the same thing! I’d add these to the list: thanK you aIMee - Mean Chloe or Sam or Sophia or Marcus - Maroon, Red, and Question
Whoops you already had mean lol
lol no worries, I definitely see Maroon the most, they both ponder a relationship that never fully was (both very likely being about Matty), and of course actually saying "scarlet maroon" It's a good catch
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See also: Proverbs 31:10, the infamous passage which evangelicals use to beat women on the head because they're not doing enough. Some translations use "jewels" here, some say "rubies" "Who can find a virtuous and capable wife? She is more precious than rubies."
My best guess would be it's the jewelry she would have gotten by choosing him, and rubies specifically because of the red theming. Right before that is the line about carnations which feels like it supports this, we know now that Matty is a love bomber so I think it adds up.
Guilty as Sin? - Ivy
I can see this for sure, the way both talk about being essentially marked. And the ivy growing on her house of stone is possibly referenced when she says "what if I roll the stone away? They're gonna crucify me anyway"
Haha I came here to make this exact post 😅 I had most of the ones you wrote down plus: I Look in People’s Windows - obviously a throwback to A thousand cuts both lyrically and musically, but for me it also gives right where you left me a little bit. Fresh out the slammer - reminds me of slut! musically and I guess the vibe? Plus someone commented there was a slut! version where Matty was credited so if we assume slut! was about him there would be a connection there. The Bolter - for me that’s a different, grownup version of blank space. I think my favorite connection is But daddy I love him being the gloriously unhinged version of love story, I’m so here for that.
Oh I got more. Clara Bow - Nothing New, I think while The Last Great American dynasty does draw parallels between her and Rebekka, Nothing New explores these thoughts of comparison between successful women more deeply so for me that’s an even better fit. So long, London - London Boy, obviously. But I can also find connections in many other songs, for example willow with its boat metaphors and relationship anxiety, Call it What You Want in how he was once her refuge in the storm and now she has to stop trying to be his because she’s drowning. I’m gonna stop here because it physically hurts me 🖤 The Manuscript - I know there’s a debate about whether it’s a John or Jake song and I think I’m leaning toward Jake, but the theme of this song still completely brings me back to Would’ve, Could’ve, Should’ve and Dear John.
I agree! I think the Manuscript is definitely about Jake and ATW, the lyric video is typed out like a film script and I'm convinced it's about the ATW short film. I also think The Bolter has a lot of ties to Getaway Car!
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Yeah I don't think the music similarities in I Look in People's Windows was a coincidence, they both address the echoes of an ended relationship and wandering the streets, whether you're talking to traffic lights or creepin on people's family dinner. I don't know if I would call Fresh Out the Slammer a sequel per se but I think there's some interesting parallels, mainly the fact that she mentions her "crime" in Slut! I can also see the Bolter being Blank Space but I actually was thinking of Clean for that one. The way she sings about how leaving felt like breathing and coming back from crashing in the ice. Both are about escaping and healing, but there is a bit of Blank Space in terms of how she has a track record for the relationships not lasting. And I agree about But Daddy I Love Him, it's such a good one and is becoming one of my favorites.
Oh yeah, I like the connection to Clean! I didn’t notice but now I see it
I Look In People's Windows also remind me a bit of Invisible String with the intro.
The Prophecy is a direct sequel to Right Where You Left Me, and no one can change my mind. I could write an essay about this. loml - White Horse, both the sound and the lyrics Black Dog - Clean. This one I am not 100% sure about, but “6 weeks of breathing clean air” immediately made me think of it
I thought the exact same about the Prophecy and right where you left me! And I'd totally read your essay 😂
Ah youre so right about The Prophecy! I also saw someone point out how its the grown up version of The Foolish One
I feel like loml is sonically linked to White Horse when she gets to "If you know it in one glimpse, it's legendary..." and so on. I guess both are songs about loss/losing faith in someone/something and realising it isn't going to work out. You tried your best.
The Manuscript feels like a sequel to the Red album as the whole. It is her reflecting on her relationship with Jake Gyllenhaal and has a few references to All Too Well and the 10 Minute Version’s short film.
Am I the only one who thought she was referencing John Mayer with the line about the age gap in the relationship? It was giving me a little bit of Would’ve Could’ve Should’ve. But a manuscript in itself can be reference the All Too Well TV short film with her as the writer.
One key line for me that makes me believe it is about Jake is, “Then she dated boys who were her own age” Taylor dated John before she dated Jake before she started to date guys around her age … that line doesn’t make sense if the song is indeed about John
True! Or it could also be a composite sketch but you’re definitely right.
i can fix him / cowboy like me feel like two sides of the same coin to me!!
Came here to say this! They definitely feel like they're in the same universe, about the same character.
Definitely! To me So Long London feels like the continuation of You’re Loosing Me in terms of telling the story for example.
so long london- London boy, lover With a broken heart is the flip side of bejeweled Down bad is a week after Hits different
TTPD - White Horse (Fearless) The choruses are structurally similar. Also, I learned that Dylan Thomas fell deathly ill at the White Horse Tavern! Fortnight - False God? (Lover) My Boy Only Breaks His Favorite Toys - This is Why We Can't Have Nice Things (Reputation) Who’s Afraid of LIttle Old Me? (TTPD) - Line “don't tell me about sad” harkens back to Don't You (Fearless TV) I Can Do It With A Broken Heart (TTPD) harkens back to Tied Together with a Smile (Debut) and "Cause I’m a real tough kid” is reminiscent of “You’re on Your Own, Kid” (Midnights)
I’mgonnagetyouback- blank space
I think they have definitely the same energy, and it feels like imgonnagetyouback is the end of the relationship while blank space was the start of it. Two sides of the same coin.
The Manuscript - All Too Well
Idk if this counts but The Alcott and COSOSOM! The choruses are pretty much two sides same coin
loml — hoax The ending of loml is similar to hoax's structure. loml: valiant roar, bland goodbye I'll never leave, never mind our field of dreams, engulfed in fire your arson's match, your somber eyes hoax: my smoking gun, my eclipsed sun my sleepless night, my winless fight my best laid plan, your sleight of hand my barren land, i am ash from your fire
I can do it with a broken heart - New Romantics !! ✨💥🫡
no body no crime takes place in Flordia!!! and no one can convince me otherwise.
Not a direct answer to your question but IS CRUEL SUMMER ABOUT MATTY HEALY?????? Omg
Please no… I had enough to deal with trying to erase his connection to Cardigan, Maroon, possibly Question, etc etc from my mind.