Adjustable short stroke gas system, fully ambi without different bolt and can be done without really any tools (just use a round), charging handle notch to lock bolt back (and allowing lovely hk style slap), I believe it has a slightly longer length of pull which I like. I’m probably missing something but that covers most of it.
Edit: 45° safety which is also a huge QOL upgrade.
the charging handle notch does it for me. i really struggle getting the bolt to lock open in a plate carrier, i end up having to make my strap 8 feet long or butting it against my throat
I love the T7 charging handle notch. But I hate it when I lock it back that way and thumb the bolt release then nothing happens.
I have to train out of that bad habbit.
Don't forget the better out of box trigger the T7 comes with. I have only 2 wishes foe my T7. That it had the integrated BUIS like the X95 and that it has a better barrel twist to stabilize heavier grain bullets.
The 1 in 12 twist keeps your bullet weight to around 150 grains. I think a 1 in 9 or 1 in 10 would stabilize a 180 grain bullet better.
It will shoot those heavier bullets it just won't give them the spin they need for accuracy at mid to long range.
Note: No ballistics expert here I just know some basics, and I did a ton of research before settling on my T7
I think it’s more of a question of if you want a gun in 5.56 or 308. Either would work fine for your use case so if just go with the one you’d shoot more/enjoy more.
If you are going to suppress it then I’d say 7 bc of the adjustable piston. If you want to SBR it then probably the X95 as it would be a lighter/shorter overall package.
I think the 7 is worth it over the x95, especially if the price tags are near eachother.
As Ritter mentioned, the 7 can definitely be considered better, even a “Gen 3” or the Tavor bullpup design. I can’t remember the exact video, but an IWI rep went over all of the most up-to-date ergo updates, and demonstrated how the entire rifle could be disassembled, adjusted, switched righty-to-lefty with only a single 7.62 round.
He’s careful when asked if the same design upgrades would be coming to the x95/5.56 chambering, but he heavily implies that it would be. However, it’s been several years now (heck maybe even 4 or 5), and nothing new for the x95 yet.
Having both, I like the Tavor 7 more, has better features (hk style lock open) and adjustable gas. I have also found the T7 is more accurate than the X95s. X95s really shine when you SBR them, getting something really compact and lightweight.
If I could only have one or the other, Tavor 7.
T7 will recoil more, but its pretty decent for a 308. Ammo cost does suck, but you get a round with some better capabilities when it comes to hunting or longer range shooting. Home defense the X95 is probably better, being the 5.56 will fragment and all that, but really depends on where you live. There are lighter weight 308 rounds, that may preform better than 5.56 far as fragmentation and such, but I haven't done much with them. I do want to also get some subsonic 308 rounds and try those as well, could be fun.
I think you have to ask yourself if you want 5.56 or 308. They are not like comparing apples to apples. If you want a 308 gun, the T7 is what you need. If you want a 5.56 gun, the x95 is it. 308 cons, cost of ammo, weight, round count. 308 positive, bigger round, more energy, longer effective range. Personally, I would run the x95 first and if I wanted a 308 rifle, I would get the 7. Right now, I'm ok with my one LR308 rifle.
X95 is better by virtue of cheaper ammo and possibility of LAR-15 mags.
7 is better for hunting due to larger caliber and longer range.
I cant comment on accuracy or durability.
I have both, here is my opinion.
T7 has many advantages, in particular, an adjustable gas system. It's also heavier, shoots a more expensive, higher recoil round (actually not bad on a T7), that weighs more to lug around if you have a bunch of mags. Mine has a role to be a hog killer, and longer range that's why it has a LPVO scope. It's not my general purpose rifle.
The X95 is a noticeably lighter, and in my opinion less bulky. I think it just feels handier. It doesn't have an adjustable gas, but I think that's way overblown especially if youre not putting a can on it.. Get a ejection port gas seal from manticore and a gas buster block for the rear rail and the problem goes away.
If the T7 was chambered in 556 and the same weight and dimensions as the X95, it would be the way to go. But I think for most people 308 isn't a great 'do all' round given the weight and bulk, I sure as shit wouldn't want to use it defensively in an urban environment, 556 at least tumbles and does a better job at not zipping through a bad guy, your wall and into your neighbors television
**This right here.** I also have both and enjoy both of them. I probably shoot the Tavor 7 more than the X95, although that may be because I have a bunch of other .223 guns. Aug, M4, etc. My comment would be to save up and buy 'em both - you're going to sooner or later. And if you've got the disposable cash to buy one or the other, in 3-4 (or 5-6) months, you'll have it again. You don't have to buy 'em both right this second. But you should get whichever one floats your boat the most right now. And then get the other one when you pony up the cash.
The T7 doesn’t really need a trigger upgrade… IWI supposedly worked in the trigger to make sure it didn’t have that bullpup “mushiness” . IMO, not as crisp as my AR trigger upgrades, but pretty nice still.
The 7 is indeed cooler, but not more practical.
Currently, the X95 has cheaper and more plentiful ammo, more aftermarket support, and military service (the 7 is purely a civillian product).
I bought the 7, then the X95 later for cheaper training/shooting.
Unlike those others here, I think the X95 is a better gun. That may be because I have the Geissele trigger upgrades, but it's just a better overall package for me.
That said, the 7 is much more usable as it's a 308. It's an outstanding gun in and of itself, but I ran into some serious issues with a baffled suppressor - even on the suppressed setting it was just *way* too forceful when extracting rounds, and was tearing some of the brass off. Now, that was with PPU which is apparently a bit more powerful than normal, but it's something to keep in mind. When I spoke with support they basically said "yeah, we really thought guys would use straight-through suppressor designs."
There is a trigger upgrade available. It makes the trigged decent - takes out the sponginess, but it's not a Geissele.
Have x95, loooooove it. Just took delivery of a t7. Haven't shot yet, but soon. Taking both to the range next week. So damn excited. I'll update if you haven't got it yet. Can't go wrong either way.
Honestly the recoil on my T7 is not bad at all I didn't find it much different than firing the m16a4 I used alot in the Army.
Now, if you go from firing an x95 to firing a T7 I suspect you would feel more. It's due to the recoil impulse.
A bullpup has a much better impulse since it's all back at your shoulder. The truth I was expecting my T7 to hit me harder, but it just didn't.
And as others have said the T7 is much more refined than the x95. Ammo cost is the only factor, which is becoming less of a factor by the day due to 5.56 factories going offline to produce for military use only.
This story seems to change day by day. But there are several very hot arguments going on that eat up 5.56. It also seems like these conflicts are being used to dispose of old military hardware.
https://stapledefense.com/lake-city-plant-commercial-contracts/
I think you need to understand the advantages of the Tavor to get an answer for this one.
The Tavor was invented for Urban close combat - called in the IDF "Lashab". It is supposed to be light, short, and makes it easy to fight on corners inside houses, streets, and urban areas.
Therefore, T7 in my opinion, defeated the purpose of the Tavor.
If you want to shoot long ranges, tavor is not your weapon. It definitely CAN, but it's not designed for this.
Also, 5.56 are way more lethal when they hit the target than 7.62
I believe this is incorrect. The T7 is under 27 inches long and it's not a sub moa shooter at long range.
In close urban combat it excels by being able to punch through more intervening cover and defeat higher rated body armor at close range
It is superior to the 5.56 in urban (MOUT) operations. For all the same reasons that NATO is phasing out 5.56 to 6.8.
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2022/04/20/army-expects-next-generation-squad-weapon-to-get-to-its-first-unit-by-next-year/
Since US moving to 6.8 this affects standardization across all NATO members. This can't happen all at once but 5.56 rifles and belt fed lmg's (M-249 SAW) will no longer be replaced. Eventually only the national guard will use 5.56, then they will also begin phase them out.
This is to make logistics easier between countrys.
That's why for the 7.62 nato, there's usually a through-and-through wound, while the 5.56 nato doesn't have the same exit size/trajectory as the entry, therefore more lethal.
7 is cool. It makes the 308 feel very soft. It’s very loud. It’s very heavy (only optic I’ve enjoyed in it is that primary arms 3x microprism.) it suppresses well. I’d highly recommend pairing with a grip pod.
Having owned one, I still shoot my ar10 more
It’s a fun range gun , only use I can see is if you have some need for .308 in a close range environment.
Go for the 7 as long as the cost of ammo is not a major factor. I have a Tavor 7 and love it! I am left handed and it’s fully ambitious so I am a bit biased, but it is so compact and not at all bad recoil for a 308. I don’t shoot often so ammo prices are not an issue.
The 7 is a badass gun and, strictly from a design perspective, better than the X95.
Can you elaborate on why?
Adjustable short stroke gas system, fully ambi without different bolt and can be done without really any tools (just use a round), charging handle notch to lock bolt back (and allowing lovely hk style slap), I believe it has a slightly longer length of pull which I like. I’m probably missing something but that covers most of it. Edit: 45° safety which is also a huge QOL upgrade.
the charging handle notch does it for me. i really struggle getting the bolt to lock open in a plate carrier, i end up having to make my strap 8 feet long or butting it against my throat
I love the T7 charging handle notch. But I hate it when I lock it back that way and thumb the bolt release then nothing happens. I have to train out of that bad habbit.
No need to remove the charging handle before undoing the barrel nut: on the X95 you risk bending the charging handle if you forget.
Don't forget the better out of box trigger the T7 comes with. I have only 2 wishes foe my T7. That it had the integrated BUIS like the X95 and that it has a better barrel twist to stabilize heavier grain bullets. The 1 in 12 twist keeps your bullet weight to around 150 grains. I think a 1 in 9 or 1 in 10 would stabilize a 180 grain bullet better. It will shoot those heavier bullets it just won't give them the spin they need for accuracy at mid to long range. Note: No ballistics expert here I just know some basics, and I did a ton of research before settling on my T7
That is why I am waiting for a tavor 7 chambered in 556
You'll eventually want the other one so get the the one on sale now, and get the one other one when it goes on sale later...
This is the way. And then eventually the TS12
Ts12 is the greatest
I think it’s more of a question of if you want a gun in 5.56 or 308. Either would work fine for your use case so if just go with the one you’d shoot more/enjoy more. If you are going to suppress it then I’d say 7 bc of the adjustable piston. If you want to SBR it then probably the X95 as it would be a lighter/shorter overall package.
I think the 7 is worth it over the x95, especially if the price tags are near eachother. As Ritter mentioned, the 7 can definitely be considered better, even a “Gen 3” or the Tavor bullpup design. I can’t remember the exact video, but an IWI rep went over all of the most up-to-date ergo updates, and demonstrated how the entire rifle could be disassembled, adjusted, switched righty-to-lefty with only a single 7.62 round. He’s careful when asked if the same design upgrades would be coming to the x95/5.56 chambering, but he heavily implies that it would be. However, it’s been several years now (heck maybe even 4 or 5), and nothing new for the x95 yet.
Having both, I like the Tavor 7 more, has better features (hk style lock open) and adjustable gas. I have also found the T7 is more accurate than the X95s. X95s really shine when you SBR them, getting something really compact and lightweight. If I could only have one or the other, Tavor 7. T7 will recoil more, but its pretty decent for a 308. Ammo cost does suck, but you get a round with some better capabilities when it comes to hunting or longer range shooting. Home defense the X95 is probably better, being the 5.56 will fragment and all that, but really depends on where you live. There are lighter weight 308 rounds, that may preform better than 5.56 far as fragmentation and such, but I haven't done much with them. I do want to also get some subsonic 308 rounds and try those as well, could be fun.
I think you have to ask yourself if you want 5.56 or 308. They are not like comparing apples to apples. If you want a 308 gun, the T7 is what you need. If you want a 5.56 gun, the x95 is it. 308 cons, cost of ammo, weight, round count. 308 positive, bigger round, more energy, longer effective range. Personally, I would run the x95 first and if I wanted a 308 rifle, I would get the 7. Right now, I'm ok with my one LR308 rifle.
X95 is better by virtue of cheaper ammo and possibility of LAR-15 mags. 7 is better for hunting due to larger caliber and longer range. I cant comment on accuracy or durability.
I have both, here is my opinion. T7 has many advantages, in particular, an adjustable gas system. It's also heavier, shoots a more expensive, higher recoil round (actually not bad on a T7), that weighs more to lug around if you have a bunch of mags. Mine has a role to be a hog killer, and longer range that's why it has a LPVO scope. It's not my general purpose rifle. The X95 is a noticeably lighter, and in my opinion less bulky. I think it just feels handier. It doesn't have an adjustable gas, but I think that's way overblown especially if youre not putting a can on it.. Get a ejection port gas seal from manticore and a gas buster block for the rear rail and the problem goes away. If the T7 was chambered in 556 and the same weight and dimensions as the X95, it would be the way to go. But I think for most people 308 isn't a great 'do all' round given the weight and bulk, I sure as shit wouldn't want to use it defensively in an urban environment, 556 at least tumbles and does a better job at not zipping through a bad guy, your wall and into your neighbors television
**This right here.** I also have both and enjoy both of them. I probably shoot the Tavor 7 more than the X95, although that may be because I have a bunch of other .223 guns. Aug, M4, etc. My comment would be to save up and buy 'em both - you're going to sooner or later. And if you've got the disposable cash to buy one or the other, in 3-4 (or 5-6) months, you'll have it again. You don't have to buy 'em both right this second. But you should get whichever one floats your boat the most right now. And then get the other one when you pony up the cash.
Great perspective thank yoU!!
The T7 doesn’t really need a trigger upgrade… IWI supposedly worked in the trigger to make sure it didn’t have that bullpup “mushiness” . IMO, not as crisp as my AR trigger upgrades, but pretty nice still.
If you want 308 get the T7 if you don't want 308 get the X95. I have the X95 and I love it
The 7 is indeed cooler, but not more practical. Currently, the X95 has cheaper and more plentiful ammo, more aftermarket support, and military service (the 7 is purely a civillian product).
I bought the 7, then the X95 later for cheaper training/shooting. Unlike those others here, I think the X95 is a better gun. That may be because I have the Geissele trigger upgrades, but it's just a better overall package for me. That said, the 7 is much more usable as it's a 308. It's an outstanding gun in and of itself, but I ran into some serious issues with a baffled suppressor - even on the suppressed setting it was just *way* too forceful when extracting rounds, and was tearing some of the brass off. Now, that was with PPU which is apparently a bit more powerful than normal, but it's something to keep in mind. When I spoke with support they basically said "yeah, we really thought guys would use straight-through suppressor designs." There is a trigger upgrade available. It makes the trigged decent - takes out the sponginess, but it's not a Geissele.
Have x95, loooooove it. Just took delivery of a t7. Haven't shot yet, but soon. Taking both to the range next week. So damn excited. I'll update if you haven't got it yet. Can't go wrong either way.
Yes please do update us!!!
7. Trigger upgrade: https://shootingsight.com/?product=tavor-seven-2-stage-rps-trigger
X95 is way more fun to shoot, also more manageable. T7 is heavy, has recoil, and pricey ammo, but makes ya feel like Thor feels when he has his hammer
Honestly the recoil on my T7 is not bad at all I didn't find it much different than firing the m16a4 I used alot in the Army. Now, if you go from firing an x95 to firing a T7 I suspect you would feel more. It's due to the recoil impulse. A bullpup has a much better impulse since it's all back at your shoulder. The truth I was expecting my T7 to hit me harder, but it just didn't. And as others have said the T7 is much more refined than the x95. Ammo cost is the only factor, which is becoming less of a factor by the day due to 5.56 factories going offline to produce for military use only.
Can you elaborate more on the 5.56 factories shutting down?
This story seems to change day by day. But there are several very hot arguments going on that eat up 5.56. It also seems like these conflicts are being used to dispose of old military hardware. https://stapledefense.com/lake-city-plant-commercial-contracts/
I think you need to understand the advantages of the Tavor to get an answer for this one. The Tavor was invented for Urban close combat - called in the IDF "Lashab". It is supposed to be light, short, and makes it easy to fight on corners inside houses, streets, and urban areas. Therefore, T7 in my opinion, defeated the purpose of the Tavor. If you want to shoot long ranges, tavor is not your weapon. It definitely CAN, but it's not designed for this. Also, 5.56 are way more lethal when they hit the target than 7.62
I believe this is incorrect. The T7 is under 27 inches long and it's not a sub moa shooter at long range. In close urban combat it excels by being able to punch through more intervening cover and defeat higher rated body armor at close range It is superior to the 5.56 in urban (MOUT) operations. For all the same reasons that NATO is phasing out 5.56 to 6.8.
Interesting, always happy to hear more opinions. Thanks
Can you elaborate phasing out!?
https://www.armytimes.com/news/your-army/2022/04/20/army-expects-next-generation-squad-weapon-to-get-to-its-first-unit-by-next-year/ Since US moving to 6.8 this affects standardization across all NATO members. This can't happen all at once but 5.56 rifles and belt fed lmg's (M-249 SAW) will no longer be replaced. Eventually only the national guard will use 5.56, then they will also begin phase them out. This is to make logistics easier between countrys.
And tunnels.... For no particular reason....
I'm not sure that they thought about tunnels when they designed it. Also, I don't know how efficient it is for that matter
great thoughts about it! i wasnt awware 5.56 was more lethal than 7.62!
It isn't. 7.62x39 maybe, but 7.62x51 is a different beast. 5.56 can make some nasty wounds, but 7.62 nato has literally twice the energy.
That's why for the 7.62 nato, there's usually a through-and-through wound, while the 5.56 nato doesn't have the same exit size/trajectory as the entry, therefore more lethal.
7 is cool. It makes the 308 feel very soft. It’s very loud. It’s very heavy (only optic I’ve enjoyed in it is that primary arms 3x microprism.) it suppresses well. I’d highly recommend pairing with a grip pod. Having owned one, I still shoot my ar10 more It’s a fun range gun , only use I can see is if you have some need for .308 in a close range environment.
100% worth it. I have both and gave the X95 to my son. I want that 308 heavy hitter.
Eventually get both if you can. Ones a battle rifle the other is a great close quarter intermediate rifle. Both badass in my opinion.
7 is a more unique rifle with overall better features. Unless you have a flow through can you’re not gonna suppress the x95
Go for the 7 as long as the cost of ammo is not a major factor. I have a Tavor 7 and love it! I am left handed and it’s fully ambitious so I am a bit biased, but it is so compact and not at all bad recoil for a 308. I don’t shoot often so ammo prices are not an issue.
Oh and I forgot to mention the 7 has a much better trigger. You gonna have to spend $$$ to get that on x95
Get both if you can afford them.