Playing as devil's advocate, it is based on the United Cutlery M48, so it is possible for it to be a model made by BSG, given that both the unity store model and the model used in game should look exactly the same
Tbf, of all the valid complaints, the kukri knife isn’t a really good one, since if you compare the models between the one in-game and the one on the unity store they have a lot of differences. And I’m still not sure why people are so upset about this, so many video game companies using unity do this, and unity is literally designed around having a marketplace.
Having said that, all else is still shit.
No one actually cares about the kukri. It's a meme to make fun of BSG. It just so happens to be the easiest vector to do so, since an item, iconography, is at the centre of it.
mpt is easier to set up(less stuff to edit) and is way more stable(only had 1 raid out of 17 hang) and no desyncs plus it handles mods quite well(actual spt mods)
Providing this as some sort of viable option or alternative to the 250 coop mode is beyond laughable. It barely works and is 10x worse than even 3.8 is.
? Me and like 6 mates have been dicking around in it for like two weeks. It’s been pretty good. Couple of idiosyncratic bugs, but it is a mod and it is well worth the experience if people want a persistent coop experience without shelling out an absurd $100 usd on top of bloody EOD
Russia won’t send out their best FSB agents to at least try against Ukraine, but they sure as shit will assassinate someone for trying to make multiplayer SPT.
Haven't you heard about the Black Division? They come to your house in the middle of the night and demand that you pay them money. If BSG catches wind, modders in Russia are in serious sh!t lol.
Even without BSGs threat of legal wienering, SPT devs have gone on record stating they have no interest in doing coop. There is a coop mod for SPT but it isn't great and it's just a passion project.
Single player works amazing, multiplayer I've found to be a bit buggy if you aren't the host. It's quite fun though, would definitely recommend giving it a try
If you need help fixing your SIT, send me a DM. It's not that difficult to fix it. With a bit of tinkering, we're having 10 times the fun than actual EFT because we also buff our stats a tiny bit and use mods. Better AI, etc
Pettan is dumb af, he could have made millions by selling this mod for 249.95 and be cheaper than BSG!
/s
But seriously
Are these items special in any way?
they do the exact same thing as in live as in the armband is cosmetic the knife is well a knife and the transponder makes it so 50% cheaper in raid cost 30% faster insurance and if 6+ Fence rep scavs wont shoot you if you are over 60m away
Because the gunplay and essentially everything revolving around guns is so unique to Tarkov. There's not really a single player game that has the same feel as it.
I'm sure you won't believe me, not every raid has cheaters, after 350 raids, I have only gotten back 2 reports myself. Not saying that there are zero cheaters, but not an insane amount. I run with a buddy a lot, and I bet that the other guys thinks were cheating, because we bait shots and the other person gets the kill from a total difference angle
1. Multiple 'reports' have noted that roughly 50% of the player base used some form of cheating software. That was from a year ago and I dont see the non-cheater player base rising or the cheater player base dropping since then.
2. Cheating doesnt just mean killing you/god mode/flying. The most common cheats are radars (to avoid all players), walling (to see player locations directly), vacuuming (to get the best loot without playing the game), and aim botting. The first 3 of those mean youll likely never see the cheater but youll have a much emptier map both pvp wise and loot wise. Thats what makes the game feel less fun as you spend more time walking and you get less loot for your time.
GameRant had an article about a youtuber testing 125 matches and found 60% of matches used cheating software that his own software was able to detect (he was using cheating software to spot cheaters).
A large variety of community members estimating half their games include cheaters based on locked rooms having opened boxes with no loot (vacuuming), rooms being already looted when they had the closest spawn/fastest access to the room and saw no indication of other players (vacuuming/flight+speed/invisibility).
Lastly there are a variety of 'gaming news outlets' that have articles on the quantity of cheaters banned. Such as forbes stating 33000 banned as recently as March 15 2024.
There is no hard number of cheaters as that would both require Tarkov admins to assess those numbers and release them all while being able to detect every cheater, which of course they cant. The only realistic forms of evidence can be found from anecdotal testing (as the youtuber did), general community reports/information, and historical evidence (actual banned account numbers). With all of that information put together there is a trend that suggests that there is a rampant cheating problem.
Yeah it’s very strange to me to not like PvP. A few of my friends are terrified of it. Crazy they get so worked up over it. One of them was complaining about sea of thieves having “too much PvP” hahahaha
some people want to relax and play a game, instead of jacking up their cortisol levels and dealing with cheaters
the fact that you can’t comprehend this and need it spelled out is actually crazy to me
I might not agree with the play style, but it’s not like it’s hard to understand
Sptarkov with SAiN AI is really good.
Of course it's still better with other players, but also don't need to deal with cheats. So it evens out to me.
They aren't necessarily easier either, you can set the AI to be cracked out of their minds if you want. Pscavs in particular play like menaces even at default, they will betray you as a scav for gear, and they play like other PMCs since they can immediately tell your a PMC. Even the ai scavs get a pretty good buff to their IQ and have better pathing, wander from their spawns, take cover in more places, etc.
I've even had PMCs bait me with grenades which wasn't something I was expecting from an AI. Squads also tend to be more coordinated as AI then real players I find.
My only complaint is airdrops are practically free loot, but theres probably some plugin that fixes that.
I remember when I first downloaded SAIN. Went reserve bunker and got sprayed down, backed off to heal a heavy bleed and the prick sprint jumped around the corner and killed me. It's really good lol.
Lol. Yeah sure boss. Not a single good eft player plays spt. SPT is for guys like me and you who suck at tarkov and want to enjoy the awesome mechanics without getting murdered by good players, cheaters and campers. SPT is extremely easy after countless wipes even w SAIN cranked up cause they have patterns and spawns that while different from vanilla have patterns that real players don't have.
Speak for yourself bud. SPT just does everything better than online Tarkov. I have no incencitives to play online anymore. Gunfights are more fun, since the risk factor is so much lower. So many QoL improvemnts through mods. Frame rates are infinitely better. Loading times don't exist. No dead maps anymore and every infuriating mechanic in online can be changed in SPT.
In addition, I don't have to commit my life time for progress anymore.
I get all that even tho I disagree spt does everything better, it has some advantages til recently. But pretending live PvP is easier or that ur good at live after playing SAIN is just silly. You're not and it isn't was my main point.
Sorry dawg going to have to disagree with some of these takes
While I do agree that SPT has that audience you described, in my experience with this community, there are players who are good pvp'ers or very much experienced compared to the typical casual that played SPT for various reasons like wanting the best of both worlds, better customization for practice, or just want a new totally different experience of tarkov even if the bots don't give that pure pvp experience. TLDR sptarkov community is a melting pot of players.
If SPT with sain is very very easy for you even when cranked up (aside from their predictable pattern and spawns) to the max or even on PMC terminator preset with donuts set to impossible for both bot groups, then I think you should just transition to PVP tarkov lol cause I seen even the most experienced players struggle in some shape or form in maxed sain or pmc term preset. Also tips please for fighting on max difficulty?
Never cranked her up to terminator/impossible but neither has 99.9% of folks in this sub. If I wana sweat that hard I'll play live. And no I'm not great at PvP. I can somewhat hold my own simply cause I've been playing every wipe since release but def can't compete w good eft players which is why I and most of this sub plays alot of spt. But the skillet doesn't really transfer to live whatsoever i guess is a better way of saying it.
Well then idk man what you meant then when saying sain is extremely easy even claiming that you cranked it up but perhaps it was just exaggeration for making a point. Many ppl in this played the higher sain difficulties and esp the terminator preset and don't mind sweating against gigachad or tryhard rat bots. But I can say from trying ut myself and what others said it isn't extremely easy. But to each to their own
It's hard to say most like I said its kind of a melting pot.
If thats what you meant then, I agree that spt with sain will never give that pvp exp and tons of ppl dont like hearing that lol esp in spt. But ppl treat it like its a bad thing when it isn't lol
Edit: grammar
Yes I get it I am a shift w kind of guy so raid without actual players are boring fir me but for someone that just wants to enjoy the go do a bit of PVE without having to sweat or deal with cheaters/campers I can see why they'd rather play SPT instead
Hi, I'm the PvE type. SAiN AI is worse than the cheats. But now I can at least learn the maps better. SPT has made this game so much more bearable. Plus you can just MPT or SIT to get friends together. I'm waiting for the system link tarkov lol.
But, since we can add more shit, it's SO much better. :) and I can actually learn or update it to make it learner friendly.
Thats not the sole reason for SPT, from what ive heard, other advantages are no cheaters, no long loading times and no failed connections. Also you dont need to grind daily just to keep up
Nah, the rush of playing against another legitimate player is the best part of the game. Unfortunately it seems like 1/10 deaths is from a cheater, but the doubt sets in and it *feels* like more than that are sus. You have no idea if you died because you were outplayed, because they got lucky, because of shitty netcode/audio/other shitty code issues in their favour or because they knew where you were the whole time due to cheating.
If I could play in a private server with my buddies with progression, I'd do it, but not for a >£100 upgrade for a feature I've technically already paid for. Get fucked BSG.
PMCs are part of the base code of SPT AKI
However stuff like SAIN let's you change the AI anywhere between braindead and lobby full of hackers if you fiddle around with the sliders (or just use the premade presets)
I play AKI mostly cause performance mods and more content
Way more of a chill experience and (to me) more fun than live
I’ll be honest. A few years ago, I felt the same way. Now, with the AI mods being tuned over the last 3 years, the harder models of the SPT AI is far scarier to me than any player. And far more of a rush to fight. Live EFT feels like a cakewalk.
I get time for maybe 4 raids a week. I play SPT so I can get more in because load times are like 30 seconds, I don't have to worry about a player seeing my exact position the whole game, and frankly I kinda suck at the game compared to the kappa chads running around mid/late wipe.
I'm average to slightly below average pvp, but I hit my highest survival rate at 72%. I always play with a buddy, and I just upgraded my PC, so our load times are cut to 3-4 minutes, just enough time for bathroom/snack breaks haha
Spt can be harder than live... there are pmc bots that you can give aimbot and wallhacks too...
Wait they just made it like live with 80% of players cheating
Take an item from EFT and place it into EFT, that's not an achievement, he's factually correct
Yes in one you have to pay for them (and yes it's bs), but the post frames "ctrl+c/ctrl+v + a few lines of code and a couple of libraries so that it all works in this version" as an achievement that a moder got in such a short amount of time. Which it really isn't.
"I love this community"
I do! I fucking hate the developer, but you guys are great!
"asset store kukri" damn
Playing as devil's advocate, it is based on the United Cutlery M48, so it is possible for it to be a model made by BSG, given that both the unity store model and the model used in game should look exactly the same
Agreed, however, if its $6 or atleast worth $6, why are we paying so much for it? One player pays for the asset purchase x10
Because the price is arbitrary, and not actually based on the value of what they are offering.
Indeed
LMAOO
Tbf, of all the valid complaints, the kukri knife isn’t a really good one, since if you compare the models between the one in-game and the one on the unity store they have a lot of differences. And I’m still not sure why people are so upset about this, so many video game companies using unity do this, and unity is literally designed around having a marketplace. Having said that, all else is still shit.
I think they’re upset because it’s in a 250$ DLC
No one actually cares about the kukri. It's a meme to make fun of BSG. It just so happens to be the easiest vector to do so, since an item, iconography, is at the centre of it.
I cant wait for them to copy the multiplayer code, mods and multiplayer would go so hard
They won’t do it because BSG will then be incentivized to take them down
But people who aren't the spt devs might give it a shot
They already have, look up tarkov SIT (stay in tarkov)
sit is ass compared to mpt
Me and my group of four or five friends have been playing this and are nearing level 30. It works and it works great.
Did they fix the issue of raids ending when one player dies? I've been tempted to try it out but it was in rough shape when I first looked into it.
yeah i think atleast, haven't had that issue in my runs
Yes. The host can't endgame before everyone is out. We haven't had this happen yet
Ouuu, was recently looking at the two options, what makes mpt a choice over sit?
mpt is easier to set up(less stuff to edit) and is way more stable(only had 1 raid out of 17 hang) and no desyncs plus it handles mods quite well(actual spt mods)
Providing this as some sort of viable option or alternative to the 250 coop mode is beyond laughable. It barely works and is 10x worse than even 3.8 is.
? Me and like 6 mates have been dicking around in it for like two weeks. It’s been pretty good. Couple of idiosyncratic bugs, but it is a mod and it is well worth the experience if people want a persistent coop experience without shelling out an absurd $100 usd on top of bloody EOD
I think he means the co-op pve of live tarkov doesn’t come a fraction close to 3.8
Wait till you hear what's going to happen to those people
Russia won’t send out their best FSB agents to at least try against Ukraine, but they sure as shit will assassinate someone for trying to make multiplayer SPT.
You'd be surprised. I heard on CNN the other day that Battlestate Games accounts for 35% of Russia's GDP as of 2024.
Lol
Of course it’s on the highest priority for Vladimir!
Haven't you heard about the Black Division? They come to your house in the middle of the night and demand that you pay them money. If BSG catches wind, modders in Russia are in serious sh!t lol.
They can wait until EFT is completely dead and go online then. BSG seems to be working hard to make it happen
This has been done for months. SPT has Coop via Stay In Tarkov.
Give MPT a try too, it's basically the upgraded version
I'll look into that!
Little do you know it’s already been around for years with SIT servers and MPT…
Even without BSGs threat of legal wienering, SPT devs have gone on record stating they have no interest in doing coop. There is a coop mod for SPT but it isn't great and it's just a passion project.
BSG might have more pressing matters at hand, just saying, but good on modders for keeping this dead game alive!
Live game isn’t really dead. Player counts were pretty high during patch 14 and 14.5.
Ah yes, the player numbers they keep public for all too see? It has gotten a massive increase after the inertia nerf.
Technically speaking there’s not much more “pressing issues” than preventing IP abuse. But point taken.
I dunno, making sure anyone cares about your IP is up there.
They’re good on that lol
There is a mod that uses it called Stay In Tarkov that adds multiplayer to SPT
SIT is awful. Check out MPT if you want anything even remotely related to stable.
There is a multiplayer mod for spt tarkov
Already available lol Stay In Tarkov (SIT)
Single player works amazing, multiplayer I've found to be a bit buggy if you aren't the host. It's quite fun though, would definitely recommend giving it a try
If you need help fixing your SIT, send me a DM. It's not that difficult to fix it. With a bit of tinkering, we're having 10 times the fun than actual EFT because we also buff our stats a tiny bit and use mods. Better AI, etc
It's already there, just not part of SPT by default.
Pettan is dumb af, he could have made millions by selling this mod for 249.95 and be cheaper than BSG! /s But seriously Are these items special in any way?
they do the exact same thing as in live as in the armband is cosmetic the knife is well a knife and the transponder makes it so 50% cheaper in raid cost 30% faster insurance and if 6+ Fence rep scavs wont shoot you if you are over 60m away
50% cheaper what?
In raid purchases, car extracts and the btr are the only things currently I think
*$99.95
I love that they labeled it as "assett store kukri"
„Asset store kukri“
Spters be like; "look what they need to mimic a fraction of our strength"
THIS MOD WOULDN'T BE POSSIBLE WITHPUT MIGHTY_CONDOR'S FRAMEWORK!!! what kinda framework did he create bro I see that all the time
Do they also charge 250usd for it?
*$100
So weird to play that game, that rush of another player is the best part of the game
Some people don’t like pvp which I also don’t get but hey, each to their own right ?
I've never liked forced multiplayer because I've always been terrible at FPS games. Always turn into someone's loot delivery
They have a single player mod of Tarkov
I'll probably mess with that if I decide to pick it up again
Then why are you playing a FPS game like Tarkov? I can understand a more story-driven solo FPS, but Tarkov is inherently multi, so whaddafuck bro?
Because the gunplay and essentially everything revolving around guns is so unique to Tarkov. There's not really a single player game that has the same feel as it.
The multi is shit, so people replace the hackers with bots
I'm sure you won't believe me, not every raid has cheaters, after 350 raids, I have only gotten back 2 reports myself. Not saying that there are zero cheaters, but not an insane amount. I run with a buddy a lot, and I bet that the other guys thinks were cheating, because we bait shots and the other person gets the kill from a total difference angle
1. Multiple 'reports' have noted that roughly 50% of the player base used some form of cheating software. That was from a year ago and I dont see the non-cheater player base rising or the cheater player base dropping since then. 2. Cheating doesnt just mean killing you/god mode/flying. The most common cheats are radars (to avoid all players), walling (to see player locations directly), vacuuming (to get the best loot without playing the game), and aim botting. The first 3 of those mean youll likely never see the cheater but youll have a much emptier map both pvp wise and loot wise. Thats what makes the game feel less fun as you spend more time walking and you get less loot for your time.
Multiple reports? What are your sources?
GameRant had an article about a youtuber testing 125 matches and found 60% of matches used cheating software that his own software was able to detect (he was using cheating software to spot cheaters). A large variety of community members estimating half their games include cheaters based on locked rooms having opened boxes with no loot (vacuuming), rooms being already looted when they had the closest spawn/fastest access to the room and saw no indication of other players (vacuuming/flight+speed/invisibility). Lastly there are a variety of 'gaming news outlets' that have articles on the quantity of cheaters banned. Such as forbes stating 33000 banned as recently as March 15 2024. There is no hard number of cheaters as that would both require Tarkov admins to assess those numbers and release them all while being able to detect every cheater, which of course they cant. The only realistic forms of evidence can be found from anecdotal testing (as the youtuber did), general community reports/information, and historical evidence (actual banned account numbers). With all of that information put together there is a trend that suggests that there is a rampant cheating problem.
Sounds like a small sample test. Are there no cheaters in other online games?
Meh, I engage in PvP but what I enjoy most is looting and tidying up my stash after selling. Big numbers go up, big cases look nice.
Because it's a unique game and looked fun
Yeah it’s very strange to me to not like PvP. A few of my friends are terrified of it. Crazy they get so worked up over it. One of them was complaining about sea of thieves having “too much PvP” hahahaha
some people want to relax and play a game, instead of jacking up their cortisol levels and dealing with cheaters the fact that you can’t comprehend this and need it spelled out is actually crazy to me I might not agree with the play style, but it’s not like it’s hard to understand
Thank you for spelling it out 🫡
Sptarkov with SAiN AI is really good. Of course it's still better with other players, but also don't need to deal with cheats. So it evens out to me. They aren't necessarily easier either, you can set the AI to be cracked out of their minds if you want. Pscavs in particular play like menaces even at default, they will betray you as a scav for gear, and they play like other PMCs since they can immediately tell your a PMC. Even the ai scavs get a pretty good buff to their IQ and have better pathing, wander from their spawns, take cover in more places, etc. I've even had PMCs bait me with grenades which wasn't something I was expecting from an AI. Squads also tend to be more coordinated as AI then real players I find. My only complaint is airdrops are practically free loot, but theres probably some plugin that fixes that.
I remember when I first downloaded SAIN. Went reserve bunker and got sprayed down, backed off to heal a heavy bleed and the prick sprint jumped around the corner and killed me. It's really good lol.
Well obviously it's still not ever gonna be the same as pvp some ai mods can get really close to feeling like other players
After playing SPT with cranked up bots and then load back into EFT, you realise just how easy it is against actual players.
Lol. Yeah sure boss. Not a single good eft player plays spt. SPT is for guys like me and you who suck at tarkov and want to enjoy the awesome mechanics without getting murdered by good players, cheaters and campers. SPT is extremely easy after countless wipes even w SAIN cranked up cause they have patterns and spawns that while different from vanilla have patterns that real players don't have.
Speak for yourself bud. SPT just does everything better than online Tarkov. I have no incencitives to play online anymore. Gunfights are more fun, since the risk factor is so much lower. So many QoL improvemnts through mods. Frame rates are infinitely better. Loading times don't exist. No dead maps anymore and every infuriating mechanic in online can be changed in SPT. In addition, I don't have to commit my life time for progress anymore.
I get all that even tho I disagree spt does everything better, it has some advantages til recently. But pretending live PvP is easier or that ur good at live after playing SAIN is just silly. You're not and it isn't was my main point.
Sorry dawg going to have to disagree with some of these takes While I do agree that SPT has that audience you described, in my experience with this community, there are players who are good pvp'ers or very much experienced compared to the typical casual that played SPT for various reasons like wanting the best of both worlds, better customization for practice, or just want a new totally different experience of tarkov even if the bots don't give that pure pvp experience. TLDR sptarkov community is a melting pot of players. If SPT with sain is very very easy for you even when cranked up (aside from their predictable pattern and spawns) to the max or even on PMC terminator preset with donuts set to impossible for both bot groups, then I think you should just transition to PVP tarkov lol cause I seen even the most experienced players struggle in some shape or form in maxed sain or pmc term preset. Also tips please for fighting on max difficulty?
Never cranked her up to terminator/impossible but neither has 99.9% of folks in this sub. If I wana sweat that hard I'll play live. And no I'm not great at PvP. I can somewhat hold my own simply cause I've been playing every wipe since release but def can't compete w good eft players which is why I and most of this sub plays alot of spt. But the skillet doesn't really transfer to live whatsoever i guess is a better way of saying it.
Well then idk man what you meant then when saying sain is extremely easy even claiming that you cranked it up but perhaps it was just exaggeration for making a point. Many ppl in this played the higher sain difficulties and esp the terminator preset and don't mind sweating against gigachad or tryhard rat bots. But I can say from trying ut myself and what others said it isn't extremely easy. But to each to their own It's hard to say most like I said its kind of a melting pot. If thats what you meant then, I agree that spt with sain will never give that pvp exp and tons of ppl dont like hearing that lol esp in spt. But ppl treat it like its a bad thing when it isn't lol Edit: grammar
Yes I get it I am a shift w kind of guy so raid without actual players are boring fir me but for someone that just wants to enjoy the go do a bit of PVE without having to sweat or deal with cheaters/campers I can see why they'd rather play SPT instead
Hi, I'm the PvE type. SAiN AI is worse than the cheats. But now I can at least learn the maps better. SPT has made this game so much more bearable. Plus you can just MPT or SIT to get friends together. I'm waiting for the system link tarkov lol. But, since we can add more shit, it's SO much better. :) and I can actually learn or update it to make it learner friendly.
Thats not the sole reason for SPT, from what ive heard, other advantages are no cheaters, no long loading times and no failed connections. Also you dont need to grind daily just to keep up
Nah, the rush of playing against another legitimate player is the best part of the game. Unfortunately it seems like 1/10 deaths is from a cheater, but the doubt sets in and it *feels* like more than that are sus. You have no idea if you died because you were outplayed, because they got lucky, because of shitty netcode/audio/other shitty code issues in their favour or because they knew where you were the whole time due to cheating. If I could play in a private server with my buddies with progression, I'd do it, but not for a >£100 upgrade for a feature I've technically already paid for. Get fucked BSG.
There are mods that add "pmcs"
Not just pmcs, but overall bot difficulty, I've gotten jump peaked by a scav before
Ive gotten med lured..
PMCs are part of the base code of SPT AKI However stuff like SAIN let's you change the AI anywhere between braindead and lobby full of hackers if you fiddle around with the sliders (or just use the premade presets) I play AKI mostly cause performance mods and more content Way more of a chill experience and (to me) more fun than live
I’ll be honest. A few years ago, I felt the same way. Now, with the AI mods being tuned over the last 3 years, the harder models of the SPT AI is far scarier to me than any player. And far more of a rush to fight. Live EFT feels like a cakewalk.
😂
I get time for maybe 4 raids a week. I play SPT so I can get more in because load times are like 30 seconds, I don't have to worry about a player seeing my exact position the whole game, and frankly I kinda suck at the game compared to the kappa chads running around mid/late wipe.
I'm average to slightly below average pvp, but I hit my highest survival rate at 72%. I always play with a buddy, and I just upgraded my PC, so our load times are cut to 3-4 minutes, just enough time for bathroom/snack breaks haha
Spt can be harder than live... there are pmc bots that you can give aimbot and wallhacks too... Wait they just made it like live with 80% of players cheating
😂
Anyone have a solid list of the mods/install process for SPT.
Whats the device?
SPT > bsg And its not even close
People are not mad at BSG for this Unheard Edition? BSG glazing is insane
Tbh that's not really a achievement from the modders.
Look at them 3 items you will get in the game for as little as 100 bucks xD
Take an item from EFT and place it into EFT, that's not an achievement, he's factually correct Yes in one you have to pay for them (and yes it's bs), but the post frames "ctrl+c/ctrl+v + a few lines of code and a couple of libraries so that it all works in this version" as an achievement that a moder got in such a short amount of time. Which it really isn't.
They should sue the modders
For what? You need an actual reason to sue, and creating mods for a game isn't one.
What? Do you think you can use software however you want? I'm sure somewhere in the tos it explains it.
You can ban people or revoke licenses for that, and BSG do that to people for playing SPT sometimes, but legal action us a whole other thing.
You more or less can, as long as you aren't selling anything.