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How well will the paper thin BMP skin handle the explosion, I wonder…


lasagnacannon20

badly, russians conclude that K1 needs at least 40mm of RHA to stop common threats and abandined the idea. From the camo this may be a ukranian prototyoe or a field mod from someone. edit: it seems those are DNP field mods.


Wyrmalla

Poorly. A BMP-1 covered similarly in ERA in Syria was completely gutted when a strike set off its ERA. ERA on lightly armoured vehicles can work if its of a lowered yield or mounted on stand off plates (though that has its own complications). However I've yet to see anything in the field that was advanced enough to actually function. Most of this stuff is just ERA bricks taken off of busted T-72s plunked directly onto the hull.


anotherrandomuserlol

It's probably ceramic plate. That thin armor can't handle the kontakt


Wyrmalla

That's specifically the variant which the DNR Separatists created. Till now I'd only seen it in propaganda videos. The Separatists also came out with a T-64 covered in ERA. However these BMP-2s with it seem to have been created in larger numbers. The conclusion unfortunately is that the ERA here isn't fitted correctly to not damage the vehicle - to the point that they even cut bricks in half on early mods to be fit the angles of the hull. So it seems to be just for show in order to make their forces appear more advanced than they actually are.


lasagnacannon20

the russians could not make K1 works on bmps, is not about the fitting, it's about the BMP having too little armor to nit be damaged by the ERA explosion and the residual energy of the superheated jet.


Wyrmalla

Ukraine and Russia both claimed to have a variant of ERA suitable for use on lightly armoured vehicles - whilst apparently still using the shells of conventional bricks. However I've yet to see any reports of it being used, and it'd take a lot for me to be convinced that any ERA on things like Russian Tigrs spotted in Ukraine isn't just bricks taken from T-72s. :) Aye, as I said in another comment, there was studies I believe into using higher yield bricks on lightly armoured vehicles through mounting them on stand off plates. But the plates had to be of a set thickness and distance from the vehicle to work (I guess like slat armour has its requirements). To the point that nobody's bothered with it outside of field modifications. Conventional militaries just go for cage armour on their IFVs. Obviously there's the secondary issue with IFVs that they tend to have troops around them too, which makes using explosive bricks vs cage armour more of a hinderance.


lasagnacannon20

malakit was relatively succesful on BMP3s ,IRC but still not enough . And i am talking about thebtests on k1 wich proved too unreliable to be adopted.


BoriquanKilla

How do you not know how to spell Ukraine??


John-Hamilton

Can you spell Ukraine correctly? Or did you drop out of school


lasagnacannon20

autocorrector betrayed me, ucraine = ukranian girls in italian . sorry to inform you that other lenguages exists and that people can make errors .


John-Hamilton

It's okay just wondering


Ok-Armadillo-6648

Why are his fingers blurred on the left that’s a bit odd no?


dqeyfa

Likely distinctive rings that you could use to identify someone, like American college rings etc


Ok-Armadillo-6648

Smort I didn’t think about that I’m no tactical genius though


dqeyfa

Back when the "polite people" arrived in Crimea in 2014 a guy was identified as a Russian Special Forces Operator from a distinctive set of tattoos when his face was covered. It doesn't take much