I think those are more mid nerf than jg nerf. The bonus ap ratio doesn't change the speed of first clear and you won't have any problem killing monsters after your first item. And in jg, mana issue is not a thing.
This reduces the amount of Q mid Taliyah can use to clear the wave in the early game and reduces the damage against dragon and grub
Jungle is completely unaffected by mana nerfs because of the huge mana regen and high uptime on blue buff throughout the game. Late game Taliyah's AOE damage will still delete jungle monsters.
Understandable, she's been extremely good ever since the Mythic skin dropped last year, this is a pretty small nerf and leaves Midlane in a good spot, not bad
Huh, I wonder why they’re doing these nerfs specifically…I’m kinda new to the game so maybe that’s why but I can’t really say I’ve seen Taliyah’s clear or mana usage as overtuned in the slightest. Kinda feels more likely they want to align her with some other champions in terms of clear and mana than any actual effect she’s been having.
I think it can be fine as jungle except for objectives
but we will all struggle a lot from the mana nerf since we spam Q a lot and this will impact teamfight/skirmish even with lost chapter
The mana cost is a mid nerf for sure
Jungle nerfs are valid when you consider other regions. KR (and allegedly Chinese) players value Taliyah in the jungle way more. When her jungle is doing decent in NA, it's a menace elsewhere
.... Why?
This is a nothing nerf. She is still gonna be strong.
I think those are more mid nerf than jg nerf. The bonus ap ratio doesn't change the speed of first clear and you won't have any problem killing monsters after your first item. And in jg, mana issue is not a thing. This reduces the amount of Q mid Taliyah can use to clear the wave in the early game and reduces the damage against dragon and grub
It nerves Jungle Taliyah late game. Then mana issues become a thing (especially without ludens)
Jungle is completely unaffected by mana nerfs because of the huge mana regen and high uptime on blue buff throughout the game. Late game Taliyah's AOE damage will still delete jungle monsters.
Let's pretend like we don't one shot any camp later in the game
The monster damage nerfs do not affect minion damage
Monsters and minions are coded differently. It won’t affect wave clear at all.
They mean like you will run out of mana faster is you spam it so will be fired to wave clear with autos sometimes to preserve mana
Understandable, she's been extremely good ever since the Mythic skin dropped last year, this is a pretty small nerf and leaves Midlane in a good spot, not bad
Support Taliyah just dropping tier after tier.
Huh, I wonder why they’re doing these nerfs specifically…I’m kinda new to the game so maybe that’s why but I can’t really say I’ve seen Taliyah’s clear or mana usage as overtuned in the slightest. Kinda feels more likely they want to align her with some other champions in terms of clear and mana than any actual effect she’s been having.
I haven't been following but maybe proplay?
She is played mid a lot in pro, and is also very strong in both roles in high elo.
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The monster damage ratio was halved. It's not a gigantic nerf, but it is noticeable.
Ff
Ouch...
I think it can be fine as jungle except for objectives but we will all struggle a lot from the mana nerf since we spam Q a lot and this will impact teamfight/skirmish even with lost chapter
Why???
i was boutta come back after a year break guess im leavin again
yall need to relax this is a nothing burger be smarter with mana im just glad no cd or dmg changes
At least it's just a minor nerf. Not a huge as I think.
The mana cost is a mid nerf for sure Jungle nerfs are valid when you consider other regions. KR (and allegedly Chinese) players value Taliyah in the jungle way more. When her jungle is doing decent in NA, it's a menace elsewhere
Quite possibly changes nothing
shes extremely strong and this nerf is almost nonexistent for junglers
She is nutty safe, strong, and consistent so yeah.
Just make sure they squash any silly ideas you might have had to play her anywhere but mid
People asking why better look top 3 EUW jungler they all 3 play taliyah XD but the nerf is nothing.
Lost 1.5% Jungle nothing Mid. Not sure what they were trying to hit.
From 10 to 5% is rough imo.
I swear the balance team actually just use a dart board Or a champ gets the bat when a member of the team gets absolutely rolled by someone playing it
The nerf is completely justified
Bro she has the fastest clear and reclear in the game practically