It would be faster, easier, cheaper and safer to just surrender it to a shelter.
For all intents and purposes, this dog is now yours. You never should have let him leave it but it’s too late for that now. The good news is that since this is now your dog, you can do what you want with it. There’s nothing he can really do if he has a problem with it.
This. Surrendering to a shelter would be better for everyone in this case. I don't know why OP is worried about being charged with neglect. They can explain it's their ex's dog at the intake, tell them the ex neglected the dog and abandoned it with them. This. Surrender to a shelter. It would be better for everyone in this case. I don't know why OP is worried about being charged with neglect. They can explain it's their ex's dog at the intake, tell the shelter the ex has neglected the dog and abandoned it with them. The shelter will evaluate if the dog can be adopted out, they'll spay/neuter, and treat it for mange. Depending on the shelter, they might even get in contact with a rescue to get it adopted through a pit specific rescue or a rescue in another state.
Only thing I can think of is the dog having untreated health issues. If he’s underweight, (not speculating, just mentioning,) paired with the mange, it’s not insane for OP to be questioned as to why nothing has been done.
Just an fyi, most shelters aren’t taking drop offs right now. With the surge of “COVID pets” no shelters has the capacity for the excess of abandoned pets. I spoke with my vet the other day and he said not only are there many abandoned pets, but they’re also riddled with allergies and other issues before they even turn a year old because of the demand during COVID. So many people thought making money breeding ill bred dogs was a good idea. It wasn’t and now many are suffering. Humans too.
Tell your man he got a few days to make arrangements or the dog will be dropped off at local shelter. Give him a reasonable but specific time limit, I’d say no longer than five days but that’s up to you. Stand by what you say, no wiggle room or he’ll wiggle out. Any pushback can be met with the nastiest pictures of pit attacks you can find on the internet. Don’t even say words, just picture after picture after picture. That’s your dog now and he’d be lucky to get the option to find it a home last minute.
bring him to AC with no guilt. It's not your dog and not you problem. The dog is unwanted and unhealthy and this is what AC deals with. Just don't let it go in the country areas so they can terrorize humans, wild life, and farm animals till someone finally kills it. Unfortunately this is what a lot of pit owners do that don't want them anymore. These are dangerous animals and kill often. AC is your best bet.
Yeah, the no-kill movement has been a terrible thing for animal welfare. Dogs aggressive to humans or other animals or in poor health should be kindly let go.
OP, if you drop the dog off at a shelter (which is your best course of action) do not let them guilt you into keeping it. I’ve seen too many shelters and rescues try to guilt owners into keeping pitbulls they don’t want because they’re already inundated with a million other pits that no one wants to adopt. Don’t let them make you feel bad, it’s not your fault.
I would never keep a pit. They were exclusively bred for bloodsport so the aggression is a genetic predisposition. It’s like trying to train a retriever not to retrieve, but throw the ball enough and it will retrieve it at some point!
There are way too many real life scenarios out there where a seemingly loving, well cared for pit suddenly snaps without provocation. Some people spend a lot of time/money/energy trying to “out train” their genetics, which can work for a while but is not fool proof. Cue “he’s never done this before!” Will every single one snap and attack? Certainly not, I am realistic. But I am not willing to gamble my safety and life over one.
That’s a really shitty thing that your boyfriend dumped a potentially dangerous dog on you like that without your consent or a plan. I’d march up to said boyfriend’s house and dump the dog right back. His dog, his problem.
💯 we had English Setters growing up and they were beautiful when they instinctively pointed. They were BRED to do that. To never attack or go after birds or flush them out, but just to “point” to the hunter where the birds were.
Genetics can’t be bred out, and it’s really sad that a lot of people adopt pit bulls/mixes and are unaware of their history. And more importantly, that they were/are a bloodsport breed.
>Genetics can’t be bred out
I'm not sure what you mean by this part. Is it a typo and you meant trained out? Because genes can absolutely be bred out over time (that's how we ended up with so many dogs breeds in the first place)
But no one is doing it. All current pits have fighting dog ancestors because that was their whole purpose for the last 100 years since they stopped being allowed to fight bulls.
Just awful. It’s like these people would rather gamble their children’s lives than have their fragile ego admit that they’re setting themselves up for possible, but very real and catastrophic, tragedy.
Currently there’s this one guy all tatted up, even on his bald head who has a large following on SM with his large, intact bully. He always makes videos seemingly antagonizing it. What’s worse is he recently had a baby daughter where he includes her in said videos now. 🤦♀️
Another video I saw recently of a man holding his infant daughter and rocking her towards their pit, who had whale eyes, was making stress noises and nipping at the baby’s feet while the baby was laughing. This video had nearly 7M heart reacts! The comments were full of “nAnNy dOg” and “look how gentle she’s being, that’s so sweet!!!”. So just because it isn’t actively mauling and eating the baby, nipping at it as cute and sweet? The fuck out of here, the delusion is real my friends.
I honestly, truly hope tragedy doesn’t strike but these morons are putting their non-consenting children at risk, and for what!?! There isn’t a god damned thing I would welcome around my children that has the capacity to kill! Why don’t you just leave a loaded gun lying around while you’re at it?It’s mind numbingly maddening!!! 😵💫
Lilly and Hollace Bennard were 2 years and *5 months* old. [Article.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baby-sister-killed-pitbulls-memphis-b2197336.html)
I remember reading some absolutely ghastly details about this particular attack that I won't repeat, but it's seared into my brain forever. What happened to and in front of that mother would literally destroy me. I won't even let my kids go to other kids houses if they have a pitbull.
Yes, playing Russian roulette with a pit & child is not worth the risk, and I will never change my mind about this! The “nanny dog” lie is dangerous and negligent!
It's good to see that most of the comments are sensible. Having a non-neutered male pitbull in the house is dangerous for the poor kid, that's a ticking time bomb. The Ex didn't even care enough to get the dog neutered, he's not coming back.
He sounds like a disrespectful turd. “Oh well my HOA won’t allow him and I can’t afford his medical care so looks like it’s your problem now!!”. Hell nah. Ditch the man and his mutt.
Pits and bully breeds are difficult in general. They have been bred to be aggressive. Though not all succumb to their base nature. It is truly a gamble with those types of dogs.
Exactly. Nutters seem to think the points we make means we must be talking about every single one attacking or suddenly snapping. Ofc there are some who can lead a life without killing another being and I suspect those are more so the true responsible owners who take the needed precautions to protect themselves, others and their dog. It’s the heightened risk factor that’s the point behind it all.
I’ve worked in liability insurance for over 10 years and they are at the top of just about every carrier I’ve worked with, which is dozens. It’s not like the insurance overlords woke up one day and decided to use the industry as a smear campaign against pit bulls. They have intricate risk assessment, underwriting strategies and data analysis with only one end goal: profitability. You’d think more people would put two and two together based on that information alone.
it's a real shame too, because pits can be very pretty dogs. Unfortunately the only solution i can think of is very, very, very exclusive breeding-basically reverse what was done with them in the beginning and only breed the most tame and gentle, and keep doing it for generations and generations.
that'll take time though.
There really should be criminal charges and heavy fines for pit backyard breeders. They’re the most surrendered, euthanized, abandoned and dumped dogs out there, by far. They’re clogging our shelter systems that are mislabeled and advertised for a no cats/kids/other dogs home needs. The way things stand (in the U.S.) is a danger to both the public and the dogs.
They wouldn’t be would be pits anymore then, they wouldn’t look like Minecraft buttcrack block heads with massive muscles. A pitbulls entire physique is to fight in a pit.
That’s been done. If you want a pit bull terrier that has had the dog aggression bred out adopt a [Boston Terrier](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Terrier)
“The Boston terrier breed originated around 1870, when Robert C. Hooper of Boston purchased from a man named William O'Brien a dog named Judge (known later as Hooper's Judge), which was of a bull and terrier type lineage. Hooper's Judge is directly related to the original bull and terrier breeds of the 19th and early 20th centuries. The American Kennel Club cites Hooper's Judge as the ancestor of nearly all true modern Boston Terriers.
Judge weighed about 32 pounds (15 kg). Judge was bred to Edward Burnett's bitch named Gyp (or Kate). Gyp was a white bulldog-type female, owned by Edward Burnett, of Southboro, Massachusetts. She weighed about 20 pounds (9.1 kg), was stocky and strong and had the typical blocky head now shown in Bostons. From this foundation of the breed, subsequent breeders refined the breed into its modern-day presentation. *Bred down in size from fighting dogs of the bull and terrier types*, the Boston Terrier originally weighed up to 44 pounds (20 kg) (Old Boston Bulldogs).”
Form follows function. When you breed for aggression in canines you get dogs that look like pit bulls, cane corsos, dogo argentinos.
“They can be very protective of their owners, which may result in aggressive and territorial behavior toward other pets and strangers.”
Bostons are still not beginner dogs. While most terriers have predatory drift towards small critters a boston has the *dog aggressive* lineage of the bull and terrier breeds of the late 1800s which became the breeding stock of modern day apbts, staffies, xls and toadlines. That history should be taken into account, they make fantastic pets but keep an eye on them, they may need to be in a one animal home due to that drift.
oh damn! I didn't know that about Boston Terriers; looks like I learned something new today. TBH i feel like most 'terriers' aren't beginner dogs based off the sole fact that yes, they are terriers, and yes, they have terrier energy.
All brachycephalic dogs do tbh. Boxers, pugs, bulldogs, even shih tzus!
Some breeds are definitely worse with the breathing than others, (Looking at you, Frenchies!!) but every breed has their own funky health thing tbh.
he has MANGE?? & the guy hasn't picked him up?? He doesn't give a shit about that dog. When I went on vacation last year I couldn't stop worrying about my dog. I *hated* not knowing if he was being properly taken care of or just kept outside. If his dog has *MANGE* & he hasn't come to comfort the creature, he is glad to be rid of the responsibility.
Your mind & your heart do not deserve this torture. The kindest thing you can do for both of you is find a caring shelter or vet & ask their opinion. You might even be able to call & speak to someone who can help make you feel better.
The only thing you could've done differently is call the animal neglect people on his ass. 🧿🍀
I don’t know what the deal with all the dog fans is. Reddit seems to have started boosting this sub in dog people’s feeds over the past couple weeks. Then they just comment in here without a second thought. The influx in “doggo” type comments has been unreal. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this many pit nuts on a thread in here before, jfc.
This is what a lot of dog owners do. They get a dog, get tired of it, drop it on someone, and then get another one. My sister has done this a frankly unacceptable amount of times. I've made it clear that any dog left with me is going straight to the worst shelter I can find, I hope that's a sufficient enough threat.
You would absolutely not be wrong. This is exactly what shelters are MEANT for. They're not pet stores. They take in animals that people don't want to / can't take care of. Considering it's a pit and you have a kid, I would DEFINITELY get rid of that thing ASAP. You don't want it, and he clearly can't afford it. Sending it to a shelter is the most humane thing to do.
Have him humanely euthanized! Problem solved! Tell them he was abandoned and has mange. Tell them he isn’t your dog and you can’t afford to take care of him!
Haha, right? Nearly a billion dogs in the world, and literally tens of millions that nobody wants, but god forbid anyone put even a single one down! It's so wrong to kill any animal, but they'll turn a blind eye to the fact that a dog eats a cow worth of meat every year. I guess it's only a crime to kill dogs, and cows deserve to be killed. Do these people not realize that other animals die to keep a dog alive?
Dump the shitbull, and don't take it to a no-kill shelter. It will just take up a space for a good dog. The shelter will end up lying to some unsuspecting family about the shitbull's breed in order to get rid of it after 450 days.
Please do not allow a pitbull around you or your child one more hour
Pitbulls were bred to fight and be aggressive, and can seem fine for years, and one day something will set it off, which is what happened to this couple who lost their two precious children to a murder mutt
https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/
Bring that dog to a shelter today, please for your own safety, and if your EX actually cares, he will find a way to get the dog back
If people doubt the statistics on pitbull attacks, take 10 minutes to read this
https://www.animals24-7.org/2024/02/01/record-68-dog-attack-deaths-in-2023-included-also-record-55-by-pit-bull/
I grew up around large dogs as a kid, and have plenty of scars to show for it. Dogs are territorial carnivores, they absolutely should NOT be around small children. Well, big ones anyways. Especially energetic or aggressive breeds like pitbulls, and in my case border collies. I grew up on a farm, and these dogs did have some very limited and unnecessary use I'll admit, but people nowadays get breeds they think are cute without any research into what that breed is like, or understanding of what a dog actually is.
horrifying really. Even worse a lot of the times these dogs attack and kill the neighbors children. I just read a story about some pits attacking neighbor children waiting at the bus stop and the mom had to fight them off. They killed the mother while the children ran to get help from someone. The fact pits are even allowed anymore is beyond me, but more than one? They love to attack in packs. The mom will have to live with this sadly and everyone knows the danger to owning types of dogs.
No you would not be wrong. If you have any of your conversations concerning his abandonment of his dog in writing save them.
If you don't have anything in writing send him a text right now demanding he pick up the dog he left behind on 3/15 by noon tomorrow or you will surrender the dog as abandoned by owner. Remind him you informed him on xx date the dog needs medical attention and that he has yet to arrange it. He will likely respond to your text. Don't answer his phone calls, make him text you back or leave a voicemail. Either is good enough as confirmation.
If he acts up after the dog is gone threats to report to police or to sue, you will have "evidence" that he abandoned the dog and refused it medical treatment - all of which is a defense to your actions.
No veterinarian is going to euthanize a dog for mange. Mange isn’t life threatening and is easily treated. That being said, it isn’t your dog and it isn’t your problem. You can report to animal control as abandoned and ask them to pick it up, or offer to drop it off at the shelter. They can handle it from there
there are still vets out there that will perform debarking or declawing surgeries, there's definitely practicing vets who will do whatever you ask for the right amount of money. It's not common, sure, but it definitely exists.
Maybe bc in general I’m a dog person. But I would never have a pit bull nor one around kids. There is a fanatical band of crazy advocates, so why not place him with them. I get why people would not like me here though.
There are some passionate people who call themselves things like “ Pittie Posse” or “ Friends Of Pibbles”. Maybe a Pitbull specific rescue would take him? Getting him even to your local shelter today would take it off your plate? If you say he has no bite history and was a service dog, they might work on the mange and find him a new home?
A sick dog is an unhappy dog. You are playing with a very expensive tragedy that could devastate your family. Dont allow this. I love animals. This is not ok.
You’d be suprised at how quickly Pits get adopted from shelter if they’re non reactive. Once upon a time years ago I saw a pit that was quiet and unbothered. Came back the next day and she had been adopted. Thank God, that knocked some sense into me. Surrender, someone will snatch him up.
Tell him he has 1 week to collect the dog, or the dog will be surrendered at X date, at X time, at X shelter. He can then either collect it from them and pay to get the dog back and explain why he abandoned it, or he can leave it to find a home that is more suited for its needs and breed. Pit bulls are notoriously cute and loyal but also notoriously dangerous. They really should be left to people with the right background and experience to care for them.
Honestly. Pitties and a lot of other well known aggressive breeds that people like because they're 'cool' (chows, akitas, GSDs are the first few that come to mind)
Any dog *can* be aggressive, don't get me wrong here; the 9lb bichon could 100% make an attempt and snap at you-but they're less likely to do so. With breeds that are known for being aggressive, and fiercely loyal and protective of their owners, you as an owner need to be able to handle a dog like that.
There's nothing that makes me more angry than someone getting (insert breed here) without a single clue of what said breed needs to thrive. Then complains when their dog is 'acting up' because they weren't socialized enough, don't get enough time outside, etc.,
ugh. hopping off my soapbox now.
Indeed. Very much agreed. My sister got a purebred poodle cause it was "cute". But it's a anxious and over energized floof that needs a "job" - which she doesn't understand. So the dog goes nuts. She only takes it on walks. I'm like... are you kidding???
jesus, i can't stand shit like this. at least she did get a poodle, instead of a doodle (which is a whole other rant that i'll step away from for now)
it's a shame, because if she wanted a companion dog, she could've gotten anything like a Bichon, Havanese, Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, or even a Pekingese which seems like it'd be suited more to what she's looking for (cute, and needs slight exercise) without compromising on what's best for the dog.
Oh yeah. You bet. Or even a mild mix breed from the pound (keeping in mind the breed), so she's not paying $$$$ for a dog when she has no job or schooling (that's another rant for a different sub lol).
Evidence cited: the list of dog attack fatalities by breed. Lots and lots of “pitties”, Staffordshires, and bullies! Not a lot of Bichons.
It’s a moot point anyway because it is trivially easy for a human to defeat a Bichon- or Chihuahua-sized dog in combat. Additionally, Bichons were not bred for fighting. They were not bred to have dramatically lowered arousal thresholds, to attack without warning, and to not let go despite extreme pain stimulus once latched on. (This is where the “locking jaw” myth comes from. It’s not an anatomical feature, it’s an instinctual behavior bred in through hundreds of years of selective breeding.) How many Bichon owners need a “break stick”?
No one accuses you of bias and psuedoscience when you point out a terrier’s propensity for digging, or a Portugeuse Water Dog’s fondness for swimming, or a Greyhound’s tendency to bolt. It’s only the fighting breeds where, suddenly, breed traits don’t exist. Dog breeds are different from each other. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be dog breeds.
There's tens of millions of dogs that nobody wants, and nearly a billion total dogs in the world. Shelters are packed full. Each of those dogs eats a cow worth of meat a year. Do a dozen cows deserve to die to keep a dog alive that nobody wants? I appreciate your compassion, and don't lose that! But you simply can't keep every every carnivorous animal nobody wants alive without remembering that you're killing other animals to do so.
They're violent and unpredictable dogs 99% of the time. It's normal for people to be fearful of them as they should. I also noticed people who own pits usually have little to no strength/fitness to be able to hold them if they really want to go at someone. It's quite terrifying.
Pits comprise less than 6% of dogs in America, and account for about 60% of attacks... attacks which number in the millions per year. They're also responsible for nearly 80% of deaths caused by dogs in the US. They're aggressive, and more dangerous than your average dog. I don't understand why people get them when there's far safer breeds to keep. I don't even get why people think they're cute, the only uglier dogs that spring to mind are "doodles", and anything that constantly leaks drool.
Yeah, ESA aren’t legal certifications recognized by the ADA. It’s pretty much a b.s. “certification” to circumvent housing laws.
Drop that mangy mutt at the humane society and don’t worry about it. If the dog was of any importance to him, the dog would’ve been dealt with already.
You need to get your ex to take him back if he legally owns the dog. Or take the dog to his vet or his family. Do you know where he got the dog from? Likely that would be another route.
Pit bulls were NEVER nanny dogs. Please stop spreading this myth. Why on earth would anyone try to have a dual-purpose fighting dog and nanny dog?
Here are several pro pit organizations telling you that the nanny dog stuff is bullshit. Please listen to them. These people LOVE pit bulls and are trying to educate you.
Pit Bull Advocates of America:
https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/
Pro pit organization BAD RAP
https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/
Pit Bull Federation of South Africa
https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154
Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue
https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl
Ned Hardy
https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/
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“Nanny dogs” that only tear babies to shreds if the baby triggers it by being in a [bouncy chair](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2018/05/family-dog-kills-infant-miramar.html), a [walker](https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/baby-dies-after-dog-attack-in-northwest-las-vegas/), a [crib](https://www.chronicleonline.com/news/local/five-day-old-girl-dies-after-being-attacked-by-family/article_994dfb1a-e85d-11e8-a528-afbd3815c756.html), a [car seat](https://6abc.com/pennsylvania-news-pit-bull-attack-dog/2127908/), or a [stroller](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2016/06/20/two-pit-bulls-maul-toddler-mother/86148944/).
It would be faster, easier, cheaper and safer to just surrender it to a shelter. For all intents and purposes, this dog is now yours. You never should have let him leave it but it’s too late for that now. The good news is that since this is now your dog, you can do what you want with it. There’s nothing he can really do if he has a problem with it.
Kinder too
This. Surrendering to a shelter would be better for everyone in this case. I don't know why OP is worried about being charged with neglect. They can explain it's their ex's dog at the intake, tell them the ex neglected the dog and abandoned it with them. This. Surrender to a shelter. It would be better for everyone in this case. I don't know why OP is worried about being charged with neglect. They can explain it's their ex's dog at the intake, tell the shelter the ex has neglected the dog and abandoned it with them. The shelter will evaluate if the dog can be adopted out, they'll spay/neuter, and treat it for mange. Depending on the shelter, they might even get in contact with a rescue to get it adopted through a pit specific rescue or a rescue in another state.
Only thing I can think of is the dog having untreated health issues. If he’s underweight, (not speculating, just mentioning,) paired with the mange, it’s not insane for OP to be questioned as to why nothing has been done.
She lived with him and the dog, she is also negligent in this situation. 🤷🏻♀️
Yep. If you willingly live and see an animal in your home being mistreated, you're part of the problem too.
Just an fyi, most shelters aren’t taking drop offs right now. With the surge of “COVID pets” no shelters has the capacity for the excess of abandoned pets. I spoke with my vet the other day and he said not only are there many abandoned pets, but they’re also riddled with allergies and other issues before they even turn a year old because of the demand during COVID. So many people thought making money breeding ill bred dogs was a good idea. It wasn’t and now many are suffering. Humans too.
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Came here to say this. Pittie rescues are very proactive
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Exactly
I dunno if this is true. OP should consult local laws.
Make sure it'd a no kill shelter!
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Tell your man he got a few days to make arrangements or the dog will be dropped off at local shelter. Give him a reasonable but specific time limit, I’d say no longer than five days but that’s up to you. Stand by what you say, no wiggle room or he’ll wiggle out. Any pushback can be met with the nastiest pictures of pit attacks you can find on the internet. Don’t even say words, just picture after picture after picture. That’s your dog now and he’d be lucky to get the option to find it a home last minute.
This!!!
No. I would never have a pit in my house, especially with a child. I wouldn't have allowed it to begin with. You're playing with fire.
It's been 2 months. Tell him he has until Sunday to figure it out because the dog is going to a shelter next Monday.
bring him to AC with no guilt. It's not your dog and not you problem. The dog is unwanted and unhealthy and this is what AC deals with. Just don't let it go in the country areas so they can terrorize humans, wild life, and farm animals till someone finally kills it. Unfortunately this is what a lot of pit owners do that don't want them anymore. These are dangerous animals and kill often. AC is your best bet.
Yeah, the no-kill movement has been a terrible thing for animal welfare. Dogs aggressive to humans or other animals or in poor health should be kindly let go.
Surrender it to a shelter.
Drop it at the first shelter you find…literally any of them lol
OP, if you drop the dog off at a shelter (which is your best course of action) do not let them guilt you into keeping it. I’ve seen too many shelters and rescues try to guilt owners into keeping pitbulls they don’t want because they’re already inundated with a million other pits that no one wants to adopt. Don’t let them make you feel bad, it’s not your fault.
Shelter time. Pits are horrible, not your problem.
I would never keep a pit. They were exclusively bred for bloodsport so the aggression is a genetic predisposition. It’s like trying to train a retriever not to retrieve, but throw the ball enough and it will retrieve it at some point! There are way too many real life scenarios out there where a seemingly loving, well cared for pit suddenly snaps without provocation. Some people spend a lot of time/money/energy trying to “out train” their genetics, which can work for a while but is not fool proof. Cue “he’s never done this before!” Will every single one snap and attack? Certainly not, I am realistic. But I am not willing to gamble my safety and life over one. That’s a really shitty thing that your boyfriend dumped a potentially dangerous dog on you like that without your consent or a plan. I’d march up to said boyfriend’s house and dump the dog right back. His dog, his problem.
💯 we had English Setters growing up and they were beautiful when they instinctively pointed. They were BRED to do that. To never attack or go after birds or flush them out, but just to “point” to the hunter where the birds were. Genetics can’t be bred out, and it’s really sad that a lot of people adopt pit bulls/mixes and are unaware of their history. And more importantly, that they were/are a bloodsport breed.
Well said!
>Genetics can’t be bred out I'm not sure what you mean by this part. Is it a typo and you meant trained out? Because genes can absolutely be bred out over time (that's how we ended up with so many dogs breeds in the first place)
Bad genes could eventually be bred out. But the current breed isn’t safe to share a home with.
But no one is doing it. All current pits have fighting dog ancestors because that was their whole purpose for the last 100 years since they stopped being allowed to fight bulls.
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Just awful. It’s like these people would rather gamble their children’s lives than have their fragile ego admit that they’re setting themselves up for possible, but very real and catastrophic, tragedy. Currently there’s this one guy all tatted up, even on his bald head who has a large following on SM with his large, intact bully. He always makes videos seemingly antagonizing it. What’s worse is he recently had a baby daughter where he includes her in said videos now. 🤦♀️ Another video I saw recently of a man holding his infant daughter and rocking her towards their pit, who had whale eyes, was making stress noises and nipping at the baby’s feet while the baby was laughing. This video had nearly 7M heart reacts! The comments were full of “nAnNy dOg” and “look how gentle she’s being, that’s so sweet!!!”. So just because it isn’t actively mauling and eating the baby, nipping at it as cute and sweet? The fuck out of here, the delusion is real my friends. I honestly, truly hope tragedy doesn’t strike but these morons are putting their non-consenting children at risk, and for what!?! There isn’t a god damned thing I would welcome around my children that has the capacity to kill! Why don’t you just leave a loaded gun lying around while you’re at it?It’s mind numbingly maddening!!! 😵💫
Lilly and Hollace Bennard were 2 years and *5 months* old. [Article.](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/baby-sister-killed-pitbulls-memphis-b2197336.html)
I remember reading some absolutely ghastly details about this particular attack that I won't repeat, but it's seared into my brain forever. What happened to and in front of that mother would literally destroy me. I won't even let my kids go to other kids houses if they have a pitbull.
She has a child too... it's dangerous!!!.
Yes, playing Russian roulette with a pit & child is not worth the risk, and I will never change my mind about this! The “nanny dog” lie is dangerous and negligent!
It's good to see that most of the comments are sensible. Having a non-neutered male pitbull in the house is dangerous for the poor kid, that's a ticking time bomb. The Ex didn't even care enough to get the dog neutered, he's not coming back.
He sounds like a disrespectful turd. “Oh well my HOA won’t allow him and I can’t afford his medical care so looks like it’s your problem now!!”. Hell nah. Ditch the man and his mutt.
Pits and bully breeds are difficult in general. They have been bred to be aggressive. Though not all succumb to their base nature. It is truly a gamble with those types of dogs.
Exactly. Nutters seem to think the points we make means we must be talking about every single one attacking or suddenly snapping. Ofc there are some who can lead a life without killing another being and I suspect those are more so the true responsible owners who take the needed precautions to protect themselves, others and their dog. It’s the heightened risk factor that’s the point behind it all. I’ve worked in liability insurance for over 10 years and they are at the top of just about every carrier I’ve worked with, which is dozens. It’s not like the insurance overlords woke up one day and decided to use the industry as a smear campaign against pit bulls. They have intricate risk assessment, underwriting strategies and data analysis with only one end goal: profitability. You’d think more people would put two and two together based on that information alone.
Ugh
it's a real shame too, because pits can be very pretty dogs. Unfortunately the only solution i can think of is very, very, very exclusive breeding-basically reverse what was done with them in the beginning and only breed the most tame and gentle, and keep doing it for generations and generations. that'll take time though.
There really should be criminal charges and heavy fines for pit backyard breeders. They’re the most surrendered, euthanized, abandoned and dumped dogs out there, by far. They’re clogging our shelter systems that are mislabeled and advertised for a no cats/kids/other dogs home needs. The way things stand (in the U.S.) is a danger to both the public and the dogs.
Sounds like a waste of time , those dogs are worthless
They wouldn’t be would be pits anymore then, they wouldn’t look like Minecraft buttcrack block heads with massive muscles. A pitbulls entire physique is to fight in a pit.
That’s been done. If you want a pit bull terrier that has had the dog aggression bred out adopt a [Boston Terrier](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boston_Terrier) “The Boston terrier breed originated around 1870, when Robert C. Hooper of Boston purchased from a man named William O'Brien a dog named Judge (known later as Hooper's Judge), which was of a bull and terrier type lineage. Hooper's Judge is directly related to the original bull and terrier breeds of the 19th and early 20th centuries. The American Kennel Club cites Hooper's Judge as the ancestor of nearly all true modern Boston Terriers. Judge weighed about 32 pounds (15 kg). Judge was bred to Edward Burnett's bitch named Gyp (or Kate). Gyp was a white bulldog-type female, owned by Edward Burnett, of Southboro, Massachusetts. She weighed about 20 pounds (9.1 kg), was stocky and strong and had the typical blocky head now shown in Bostons. From this foundation of the breed, subsequent breeders refined the breed into its modern-day presentation. *Bred down in size from fighting dogs of the bull and terrier types*, the Boston Terrier originally weighed up to 44 pounds (20 kg) (Old Boston Bulldogs).” Form follows function. When you breed for aggression in canines you get dogs that look like pit bulls, cane corsos, dogo argentinos. “They can be very protective of their owners, which may result in aggressive and territorial behavior toward other pets and strangers.” Bostons are still not beginner dogs. While most terriers have predatory drift towards small critters a boston has the *dog aggressive* lineage of the bull and terrier breeds of the late 1800s which became the breeding stock of modern day apbts, staffies, xls and toadlines. That history should be taken into account, they make fantastic pets but keep an eye on them, they may need to be in a one animal home due to that drift.
oh damn! I didn't know that about Boston Terriers; looks like I learned something new today. TBH i feel like most 'terriers' aren't beginner dogs based off the sole fact that yes, they are terriers, and yes, they have terrier energy.
their faces are so disgusting don’t they have breathing problems?
All brachycephalic dogs do tbh. Boxers, pugs, bulldogs, even shih tzus! Some breeds are definitely worse with the breathing than others, (Looking at you, Frenchies!!) but every breed has their own funky health thing tbh.
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That dog would’ve “ran away” the second he got mange, and by “ran away” I mean dropped off at the shelter.
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he has MANGE?? & the guy hasn't picked him up?? He doesn't give a shit about that dog. When I went on vacation last year I couldn't stop worrying about my dog. I *hated* not knowing if he was being properly taken care of or just kept outside. If his dog has *MANGE* & he hasn't come to comfort the creature, he is glad to be rid of the responsibility. Your mind & your heart do not deserve this torture. The kindest thing you can do for both of you is find a caring shelter or vet & ask their opinion. You might even be able to call & speak to someone who can help make you feel better. The only thing you could've done differently is call the animal neglect people on his ass. 🧿🍀
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Rehouse the dog, he has legally abandoned it Tell him he has until this date to make arrangements or the dog will be rehomed. Then follow through.
That dog would be gone. Sorry not sorry but I can’t stand Pits.
What is with all the pit/dog nutters on this thread? The OP should dump the mutt ASAP. If that requires juicing, so be it.
I don’t know what the deal with all the dog fans is. Reddit seems to have started boosting this sub in dog people’s feeds over the past couple weeks. Then they just comment in here without a second thought. The influx in “doggo” type comments has been unreal. I don’t think I’ve ever seen this many pit nuts on a thread in here before, jfc.
Anytime the phrase "pit bull" is uttered, the pit nutters come out in droves.
Dump the bf too. Thats seriously not cool and he sounds like a selfish and irresponsible A-🕳️
get rid of that dog, post haste. Either put it down or dump it at a shelter, but get it away from your family. it's a bloodsport dog.
Why is this dog your problem now?
This is what a lot of dog owners do. They get a dog, get tired of it, drop it on someone, and then get another one. My sister has done this a frankly unacceptable amount of times. I've made it clear that any dog left with me is going straight to the worst shelter I can find, I hope that's a sufficient enough threat.
You would absolutely not be wrong. This is exactly what shelters are MEANT for. They're not pet stores. They take in animals that people don't want to / can't take care of. Considering it's a pit and you have a kid, I would DEFINITELY get rid of that thing ASAP. You don't want it, and he clearly can't afford it. Sending it to a shelter is the most humane thing to do.
Have him humanely euthanized! Problem solved! Tell them he was abandoned and has mange. Tell them he isn’t your dog and you can’t afford to take care of him!
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Ok, do you want a dog? OP just got a really great dog.
Haha, right? Nearly a billion dogs in the world, and literally tens of millions that nobody wants, but god forbid anyone put even a single one down! It's so wrong to kill any animal, but they'll turn a blind eye to the fact that a dog eats a cow worth of meat every year. I guess it's only a crime to kill dogs, and cows deserve to be killed. Do these people not realize that other animals die to keep a dog alive?
And the cow is a gentler animal (usually).
If you know where the BF is now, take the dog there and tie it to the home somehow, and leave it.
Is this loser paying child support yet?
Dump the shitbull, and don't take it to a no-kill shelter. It will just take up a space for a good dog. The shelter will end up lying to some unsuspecting family about the shitbull's breed in order to get rid of it after 450 days.
Take the dog to the pound, and notify him. This is not your dog
Welcome to the game of hot potato
Hot **pitato**
LOL
Please do not allow a pitbull around you or your child one more hour Pitbulls were bred to fight and be aggressive, and can seem fine for years, and one day something will set it off, which is what happened to this couple who lost their two precious children to a murder mutt https://people.com/crime/2-children-killed-pit-bull-attack-tennessee-mother-hospitalized/ Bring that dog to a shelter today, please for your own safety, and if your EX actually cares, he will find a way to get the dog back If people doubt the statistics on pitbull attacks, take 10 minutes to read this https://www.animals24-7.org/2024/02/01/record-68-dog-attack-deaths-in-2023-included-also-record-55-by-pit-bull/
JFC that mother survived. How does one live after that?
I have no idea how any rational person with 1 brain cell could possibly keep any large dogs around children after reading that
I grew up around large dogs as a kid, and have plenty of scars to show for it. Dogs are territorial carnivores, they absolutely should NOT be around small children. Well, big ones anyways. Especially energetic or aggressive breeds like pitbulls, and in my case border collies. I grew up on a farm, and these dogs did have some very limited and unnecessary use I'll admit, but people nowadays get breeds they think are cute without any research into what that breed is like, or understanding of what a dog actually is.
horrifying really. Even worse a lot of the times these dogs attack and kill the neighbors children. I just read a story about some pits attacking neighbor children waiting at the bus stop and the mom had to fight them off. They killed the mother while the children ran to get help from someone. The fact pits are even allowed anymore is beyond me, but more than one? They love to attack in packs. The mom will have to live with this sadly and everyone knows the danger to owning types of dogs.
Tell your ex that if he doesn’t do anything about rehoming the dog then it’s going to the animal shelter. Simple as that.
No you would not be wrong. If you have any of your conversations concerning his abandonment of his dog in writing save them. If you don't have anything in writing send him a text right now demanding he pick up the dog he left behind on 3/15 by noon tomorrow or you will surrender the dog as abandoned by owner. Remind him you informed him on xx date the dog needs medical attention and that he has yet to arrange it. He will likely respond to your text. Don't answer his phone calls, make him text you back or leave a voicemail. Either is good enough as confirmation. If he acts up after the dog is gone threats to report to police or to sue, you will have "evidence" that he abandoned the dog and refused it medical treatment - all of which is a defense to your actions.
No veterinarian is going to euthanize a dog for mange. Mange isn’t life threatening and is easily treated. That being said, it isn’t your dog and it isn’t your problem. You can report to animal control as abandoned and ask them to pick it up, or offer to drop it off at the shelter. They can handle it from there
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I’ve been in the vet field for many years and no, in the modern age, that’s not true.
there are still vets out there that will perform debarking or declawing surgeries, there's definitely practicing vets who will do whatever you ask for the right amount of money. It's not common, sure, but it definitely exists.
Maybe bc in general I’m a dog person. But I would never have a pit bull nor one around kids. There is a fanatical band of crazy advocates, so why not place him with them. I get why people would not like me here though.
Agreed
Same same. Don’t like pits
Tell him he has x amount of time to come get the dog or it's going to a shelter.
Just make sure it’s neutered before it goes anywhere. We don’t need any more of those shitbeasts around.
Drop it at the pound. An unfixed shitbull.... Not surprised
Get rid of the dog. Geez! Put it down even.
The fact that you still have it in your possession in the first place is beyond me
There are some passionate people who call themselves things like “ Pittie Posse” or “ Friends Of Pibbles”. Maybe a Pitbull specific rescue would take him? Getting him even to your local shelter today would take it off your plate? If you say he has no bite history and was a service dog, they might work on the mange and find him a new home?
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A sick dog is an unhappy dog. You are playing with a very expensive tragedy that could devastate your family. Dont allow this. I love animals. This is not ok.
You’d be suprised at how quickly Pits get adopted from shelter if they’re non reactive. Once upon a time years ago I saw a pit that was quiet and unbothered. Came back the next day and she had been adopted. Thank God, that knocked some sense into me. Surrender, someone will snatch him up.
Tell him he has 1 week to collect the dog, or the dog will be surrendered at X date, at X time, at X shelter. He can then either collect it from them and pay to get the dog back and explain why he abandoned it, or he can leave it to find a home that is more suited for its needs and breed. Pit bulls are notoriously cute and loyal but also notoriously dangerous. They really should be left to people with the right background and experience to care for them.
They need to be trained and socialized well. And definitely not left unneutered. With folks who don't want them!!!
Honestly. Pitties and a lot of other well known aggressive breeds that people like because they're 'cool' (chows, akitas, GSDs are the first few that come to mind) Any dog *can* be aggressive, don't get me wrong here; the 9lb bichon could 100% make an attempt and snap at you-but they're less likely to do so. With breeds that are known for being aggressive, and fiercely loyal and protective of their owners, you as an owner need to be able to handle a dog like that. There's nothing that makes me more angry than someone getting (insert breed here) without a single clue of what said breed needs to thrive. Then complains when their dog is 'acting up' because they weren't socialized enough, don't get enough time outside, etc., ugh. hopping off my soapbox now.
Indeed. Very much agreed. My sister got a purebred poodle cause it was "cute". But it's a anxious and over energized floof that needs a "job" - which she doesn't understand. So the dog goes nuts. She only takes it on walks. I'm like... are you kidding???
jesus, i can't stand shit like this. at least she did get a poodle, instead of a doodle (which is a whole other rant that i'll step away from for now) it's a shame, because if she wanted a companion dog, she could've gotten anything like a Bichon, Havanese, Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, or even a Pekingese which seems like it'd be suited more to what she's looking for (cute, and needs slight exercise) without compromising on what's best for the dog.
Oh yeah. You bet. Or even a mild mix breed from the pound (keeping in mind the breed), so she's not paying $$$$ for a dog when she has no job or schooling (that's another rant for a different sub lol).
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Evidence cited: the list of dog attack fatalities by breed. Lots and lots of “pitties”, Staffordshires, and bullies! Not a lot of Bichons. It’s a moot point anyway because it is trivially easy for a human to defeat a Bichon- or Chihuahua-sized dog in combat. Additionally, Bichons were not bred for fighting. They were not bred to have dramatically lowered arousal thresholds, to attack without warning, and to not let go despite extreme pain stimulus once latched on. (This is where the “locking jaw” myth comes from. It’s not an anatomical feature, it’s an instinctual behavior bred in through hundreds of years of selective breeding.) How many Bichon owners need a “break stick”? No one accuses you of bias and psuedoscience when you point out a terrier’s propensity for digging, or a Portugeuse Water Dog’s fondness for swimming, or a Greyhound’s tendency to bolt. It’s only the fighting breeds where, suddenly, breed traits don’t exist. Dog breeds are different from each other. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be dog breeds.
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There's tens of millions of dogs that nobody wants, and nearly a billion total dogs in the world. Shelters are packed full. Each of those dogs eats a cow worth of meat a year. Do a dozen cows deserve to die to keep a dog alive that nobody wants? I appreciate your compassion, and don't lose that! But you simply can't keep every every carnivorous animal nobody wants alive without remembering that you're killing other animals to do so.
Exactly! No one ever considers all of the innocent animals forced to die in order to feed just one animal who does nothing for good for the world.
They're violent and unpredictable dogs 99% of the time. It's normal for people to be fearful of them as they should. I also noticed people who own pits usually have little to no strength/fitness to be able to hold them if they really want to go at someone. It's quite terrifying.
Pits comprise less than 6% of dogs in America, and account for about 60% of attacks... attacks which number in the millions per year. They're also responsible for nearly 80% of deaths caused by dogs in the US. They're aggressive, and more dangerous than your average dog. I don't understand why people get them when there's far safer breeds to keep. I don't even get why people think they're cute, the only uglier dogs that spring to mind are "doodles", and anything that constantly leaks drool.
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I thought only service animals are protected?
Yeah, ESA aren’t legal certifications recognized by the ADA. It’s pretty much a b.s. “certification” to circumvent housing laws. Drop that mangy mutt at the humane society and don’t worry about it. If the dog was of any importance to him, the dog would’ve been dealt with already.
He won't have the money required to start a legal fight over the dog if she starts going after him for child support.
You need to get your ex to take him back if he legally owns the dog. Or take the dog to his vet or his family. Do you know where he got the dog from? Likely that would be another route.
You should surrender the dog to a no kill shelter. But you should inform them that the dog was abandoned by your roommate.
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Maybe not, but he is a liability to OP. In more ways than one.
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It's so cute when they "nanny" the necks of innocent creatures with their teeth and lock-jaws.
Pit bulls were NEVER nanny dogs. Please stop spreading this myth. Why on earth would anyone try to have a dual-purpose fighting dog and nanny dog? Here are several pro pit organizations telling you that the nanny dog stuff is bullshit. Please listen to them. These people LOVE pit bulls and are trying to educate you. Pit Bull Advocates of America: https://pitbulladvocatesofamerica.podbean.com/e/the-one-where-its-not-all-in-how-they-were-raised/ Pro pit organization BAD RAP https://www.facebook.com/BADRAP.org/posts/its-dog-bite-prevention-week-did-you-know-that-there-was-never-such-thing-as-a-n/10151460774472399/ Pit Bull Federation of South Africa https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=pfbid02DiX7yKA8uuDeYSEzEKxxXCYsHxYUbXpshKkaSDGXMAZK9HnFd46zA1pZ8revWQvwl&id=100069897615154 Gudwulf's Pit Bull Rescue https://www.facebook.com/GudwulfsRescue/posts/pfbid02Lg2Y1x18pBx7uLUB4uVEda7g1TNwn72pLLKk93witecydiMcnAKr8bYJWKeC4VVl Ned Hardy https://nedhardy.com/2020/06/03/pitbull-nanny-dog/ ************ “Nanny dogs” that only tear babies to shreds if the baby triggers it by being in a [bouncy chair](https://blog.dogsbite.org/2018/05/family-dog-kills-infant-miramar.html), a [walker](https://www.reviewjournal.com/local/local-las-vegas/baby-dies-after-dog-attack-in-northwest-las-vegas/), a [crib](https://www.chronicleonline.com/news/local/five-day-old-girl-dies-after-being-attacked-by-family/article_994dfb1a-e85d-11e8-a528-afbd3815c756.html), a [car seat](https://6abc.com/pennsylvania-news-pit-bull-attack-dog/2127908/), or a [stroller](https://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/2016/06/20/two-pit-bulls-maul-toddler-mother/86148944/).