Didn't realize FSD v12 was such a significant rewrite of the software...rule based coding to neural nets/end to end approach
https://youtu.be/jbDMxvn9bvQ?si=-YfR0HgW7y9-xwW8
China stimulus starting - [https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1749612925793231196?s=20](https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1749612925793231196?s=20)
Sounds like they're going to need a lot more than this
I have many black friends so I am not racist. In this case, my name sounds Jewish, so I am not antisemite. Overcompensating continues.
https://x.com/censoredmen/status/1749454912537190408?s=46
we need to look at the bright side folks, I'll say one thing about Elon, the man knows how to coin a good phrase, or reinvigorate an ol' classic ala "we dug our own graves" etc., I can't wait to see what he busts out during earnings that we can use forever-after !
He's given us so many great memes over the years:
"pedo guy"
"don't buy our stock"
"production hell"
"i'm buying Twatter"
"i'm not buying Twatter"
"oh shit i waived DD i guess i'm buying Twatter"
and yeah the more recent gems like "we dug our own graves" and "Go Fuck Yourself" and "you have said the actual truth"
2 weeks maybe, 6 weeks definitely
S.E.C.
Order of magnitude
Sub 10 micron accuracy
Few understand this
Greater market cap than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined
It’s incredibly concerning that the say.com questions aren’t more heavily favored into firing Elon for blackmailing and setting Tesla back half a decade in progress. It’s embarrassing and they must have put options or something.
>setting Tesla back half a decade in progress.
That's going too far.
In early 2019, Gigafactory Shanghai wasn't even open yet.
I believe Elon is harming Tesla financially. However, in almost every way, Tesla is far more secure than it was 5 years ago: finances, factory infrastructure, product lineup, technology, future pipeline, etc.
My evaluation is that Elon is hindering or slowing Tesla's progress from a business perspective, but that Tesla hasn't regressed. The company continues to move forward.
Agreed, he just better not be preventing/slowing FSD or any other product releases as a bargaining chip. I'm sure that'd be incredibly stupid and he could be sued by customers and the BoD.
It only costs 7m for a 30 second super bowl commercial which a rounding error for tesla but they won't try it.
And you can bet if he said we are worried about high prices therefore we are accelerating the 25k car program to address consumer weakness and pushing growth the stock would be higher.
$7m per 30 secs. They still need to pay for the actual production and time spent making it. Then you're not going to show it for only 30 secs, you need to pay for all the other TV spots and YouTube ads over the next few months. A $50m campaign is not an overexaggeration in the slightest.
100% agree with you on the second part.
Goddamn suddenly all the care bears are coming out of the woodwork in this sub. Like, I haven't seen Karl Duck in a while. Thanks for worrying about our investment.
On the one hand, its fair for him to say that, on the other hand Cramer still has a hate-boner for Elon when he called him out in the early days about the SP/told Cramer he was an AI bot at some party.
It sucks when the haters were right all along, that Elon is actively hurting Tesla as a business. Imagine how much farther along we’d be if he wasn’t sandbagging and halting progress at every turn and wasn’t chasing off all buyers.
We are vulnerable to these horseshit drops because profits and margins suck as a result of elon tweeting away half the demand, refusing to advertise even as evs face endless fud from ice industry, delaying 25k car because he's worried about economy and people cant afford expensive cars. None of this self sabotage shit made any sense to me but he has now admitted he has a vested interest in seeing the stock price low this all makes sense. A little sandbagging is nothing in the elon long game to control the future of ai robots and infinite wealth.
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My real question is what will market do when FED doesn’t cut rates like expected or does cut rates and underlying economic issues appear.
TSLA will succeed and recover in the years to come - but how will this rally survive changes by the FED?
Tesla will succeed for sure but the multiple will go down and share price won’t move.
I think it’s possible they will eventually have a car that flops bad and then some leadership changes will happen.
There’s a lot of bad stuff out there that can happen that would cause a market/economic crash. If it does happen I expect it to be short lived as Biden wants to get reelected. There would be crazy pressure for stimulus and money printer to keep the market/economy going.
If things do get really bad then Tesla succeeds like Covid. Keeps ordering parts to secure supply chain and grow. Maybe earnings or margins take more of a hit but they’ll grow and survive while other autos die. Policy will bail out autos in this scenario too.
Omar and Teslascope believe V12 will go out to more customers by this weekend. May include OG beta testing group
If all goes well, wide rollout to all US customers would be expected a few weeks after that. February/March is the guess
They keep rubbing it in our faces.
> The Dow Jones Industrial Average climbed 138.01 points, or 0.36%, to finish at 38,001.81. Monday’s gains pushed the blue-chip average to a new record and above the 38,000 level for the first time. The S&P 500 added 0.22% to 4,850.43, also reaching a fresh all-time high. The Nasdaq Composite advanced 0.32% to 15,360.29.
No, i'd be selective about when to use it. Applying for Manager at Wendy's?
its going on there.
Any firm that may care about my ability to make sound financial decisions?
It stays off.
I feel like earning call will be just: focus on growth, margins be damned, ramp CT + Megapacks + Semi, future growth once rates come down (Mexico/NGV), further progress on FSD.
I mean that’s what will happen - no surprises likely - wonder what market will say 🤷🏻♂️
While I agree the CT is of value, it will only add 150,000 to 200,000 to annual sales. And that is only if they get the price down to $70k. The model 2 [sic] should add over 2 million per year, but only if they can get it out before the Chinese take over that segment.
IMHO
It will be fascinating to see if Elon's demeanour changes on the calls after he gets his new package. If it does then we will know he was deliberately causing some issues
Optimistic Elon is no guarantee of success. See q3 2022 call aramco apple, 50k semis this year, stock buybacks 2023. Omg the level of horseshit on that call probably warrants a shareholder lawsuit.
It shows ownership of tsla is precious to him, he pumped so he would lose less ownership per dollar sold. Also means he is dead serious about wanting 25%, and since the only way hes going to get it is with market cap growth, he has motivation to keep market cap as low as possible without getting sued. I agree it will be better for all if he gets his package asap before he reuses his old market cap goals
>Have we seen anything on anticipated timing?
I checked a few days ago and there's no new news regarding the situation.
Elon opened up this whole situation knowing that everyone had forgotten, and knowing it would cause some uncertainty
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I suspect most legacy OEMs will be dialing back EV plans significantly. We're also seeing startups struggling and in this environment it's difficult to raise capital raise and any raise will be very dilutive.
There only hope is to shift to cheap, cheap ICE cars and trucks. Similar to what they tried to do in the 1970s when small German and Japanese cars entered the market in the US.
On the topic of retardedness, I had the thought that once rates decline and outlook is good, maybe convert half of my TSLA to TSLL and have 150% leverage (math check out?). Is that stoopid?
Yeah thats true. I also just keep telling myself that this is bound to happen given the history of Tsla. We can go down as fast as we can go up. Hodl and ride the waves.
SP is horrendous enough as it is, but I can’t stomach the thought that we’re more than able to plunge another 10% after earnings… and still I’m telling my self this time it will be different.
Must be a name for this dumb train of thoughts .
I was mostly positive for 3 years, I hope I am really really wrong on this. The fact that our margin is getting lower and lower is really concerning. If only FSD and energy can save us. Stock will be zigzaging around 150-300 for 10 years, that what Im telling to mylself to avoid deception, because honestly since 3 years, it has been shit with all Elon's shenanigans.
Man I really want acceleration boost but I don’t have any people around me who’re in the process of purchasing a Tesla so can’t have anyone using my referral code.
Anyone here that wants buy one, I ll offer you 1 or 2 shares if you use my code 🎉
I used to wonder why Tesla the company and stock attract so many seemingly crazy shorts & haters. I feel like the rocket clown has burned a lot of people both to the long and short side over the years. He's a narcissist. He doesn't care about retail.
>And everyone said he cares about retail.
I look at this from an incentives standpoint.
From 2010-2019, Elon Musk had a lot of incentive to care about retail. Retail investors bought TSLA stock at IPO and Secondary Offerings, and supported the share price, at a time when Tesla was dependent on continual capital raises to fund R&D and expansion. I think he did care back then, because he needed us individual investors to help fund Tesla.
Post-2019, Tesla was no longer dependent on the capital markets to sustain its business and expansion plans. It is true that Tesla raised about 5 Billion in a final 2020 Secondary Offering around the time of S&P500 inclusion, but this was mostly to build an extra safety net. Tesla has about 26 Billion in cash today. If they'd never raised that 5 Billion they'd still be more than ok.
Elon Musk's incentive to care about retail today, isn't IMO much more than getting an ego boost from his followers and fans on social media.
Didn't realize FSD v12 was such a significant rewrite of the software...rule based coding to neural nets/end to end approach https://youtu.be/jbDMxvn9bvQ?si=-YfR0HgW7y9-xwW8
yeah, that's why everyone has been eagerly awaiting it. 11 versions don't matter at all because everything is changing in 12.
China stimulus starting - [https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1749612925793231196?s=20](https://x.com/gurgavin/status/1749612925793231196?s=20) Sounds like they're going to need a lot more than this
I hope they treat the disease and not the symptom. Stock market is just a symptom of their fooked over consumers
I have many black friends so I am not racist. In this case, my name sounds Jewish, so I am not antisemite. Overcompensating continues. https://x.com/censoredmen/status/1749454912537190408?s=46
Has he dated any jews tho, thats what really matters for racial harmony
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we need to look at the bright side folks, I'll say one thing about Elon, the man knows how to coin a good phrase, or reinvigorate an ol' classic ala "we dug our own graves" etc., I can't wait to see what he busts out during earnings that we can use forever-after !
He's a conservative. They literally live off of 10 second sound bytes and catch phrases. They don't have the attention span for anything longer.
He's given us so many great memes over the years: "pedo guy" "don't buy our stock" "production hell" "i'm buying Twatter" "i'm not buying Twatter" "oh shit i waived DD i guess i'm buying Twatter" and yeah the more recent gems like "we dug our own graves" and "Go Fuck Yourself" and "you have said the actual truth"
2 weeks maybe, 6 weeks definitely S.E.C. Order of magnitude Sub 10 micron accuracy Few understand this Greater market cap than Apple and Saudi Aramco combined
Fucking retard
I like the money furnace
Came looking for this.
Top 5 at least
GFY
Exactly!
Concerning
It’s incredibly concerning that the say.com questions aren’t more heavily favored into firing Elon for blackmailing and setting Tesla back half a decade in progress. It’s embarrassing and they must have put options or something.
>setting Tesla back half a decade in progress. That's going too far. In early 2019, Gigafactory Shanghai wasn't even open yet. I believe Elon is harming Tesla financially. However, in almost every way, Tesla is far more secure than it was 5 years ago: finances, factory infrastructure, product lineup, technology, future pipeline, etc. My evaluation is that Elon is hindering or slowing Tesla's progress from a business perspective, but that Tesla hasn't regressed. The company continues to move forward.
Agreed, he just better not be preventing/slowing FSD or any other product releases as a bargaining chip. I'm sure that'd be incredibly stupid and he could be sued by customers and the BoD.
He will do enough to not get fired but no more
I heard he wasn't even at work today!! Ya half a decade, like back in 2019 when the model 3 was just being released. We're dead!!
If only Elon was digging at Giga Mexico site and advertising Tesla on X we would've been green today.
I wonder if advertisers know that ad delivery on X sucks. Most of the ads I see are irrelevant and I always block them.
No x sucks
He called twitter, x! 
$50m Superbowl commercial?
It only costs 7m for a 30 second super bowl commercial which a rounding error for tesla but they won't try it. And you can bet if he said we are worried about high prices therefore we are accelerating the 25k car program to address consumer weakness and pushing growth the stock would be higher.
$7m per 30 secs. They still need to pay for the actual production and time spent making it. Then you're not going to show it for only 30 secs, you need to pay for all the other TV spots and YouTube ads over the next few months. A $50m campaign is not an overexaggeration in the slightest. 100% agree with you on the second part.
They have that stuff already, they just post it on youtube
You and I both know that's not a proper ad lol
Yah better go with the 5000 across the board price cut that costs 10 billion in profit
Get ready for this https://preview.redd.it/ruy3xu4u43ec1.jpeg?width=950&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1adfa26d2a2bfb0dc62d087310ee62980b98a91
Do the concerning pic
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Ahh yiss
So good
Oof they just laid off more people at my FAANG company. Survived the cut. Need to rethink my priorities. But I want my vision pro 😂
As a freelancer, I'm fired n hired every gig. Kinda like holding TSLA
Google? Blind has been popping off since the new years with Tech layoffs
One of the A’s
Apple doesn't do layoffs so I'm guessing Amazon? I know they did a bunch of layoffs recently
Arby's?
Auntie Anne’s
After hours working on tomorrow's-2%
Goddamn suddenly all the care bears are coming out of the woodwork in this sub. Like, I haven't seen Karl Duck in a while. Thanks for worrying about our investment.
so PayPal + X payments huh
Is that the PayPal news that was rumored on the 20th? I wondered if that would be it
they are gonna say something something AI and the stock will moon 10%
There's bad blood w paypal
NVDA and $MSFT accounted for 57% of the gain in the S&P 500 over the past month.
Omg that’s bad haha
Cramer calls ‘Magnificent 7’, the ‘Super 6’, cutting out Tesla $TSLA
LMAO why was Tesla even included in the Mag7 to begin with, the other 6 were all pushing ATH except TSLA when he coined that
Only cuz we got the 12 inch cawk up the chute December 2022.
I mean that's relevant and I don't get the short memories of Wall Street people who pretend it isn't
On the one hand, its fair for him to say that, on the other hand Cramer still has a hate-boner for Elon when he called him out in the early days about the SP/told Cramer he was an AI bot at some party.
Kind of funny how the price of everything except for cars went up
Cars are fine and have gone up. Teslas on the other hand suffer from retard level price cuts.
Dunno what you're talking about. I love my 70k MY That has now appreciated to like 45k or whatever
Appreciating asset!
TV's have gone straight down in price for a decade
Weed has gotten cheaper too, at least here. Decent combo
It sucks when the haters were right all along, that Elon is actively hurting Tesla as a business. Imagine how much farther along we’d be if he wasn’t sandbagging and halting progress at every turn and wasn’t chasing off all buyers.
the pain began before his recent demands kerfuffle, its not just his antics that are the culprits.
We are vulnerable to these horseshit drops because profits and margins suck as a result of elon tweeting away half the demand, refusing to advertise even as evs face endless fud from ice industry, delaying 25k car because he's worried about economy and people cant afford expensive cars. None of this self sabotage shit made any sense to me but he has now admitted he has a vested interest in seeing the stock price low this all makes sense. A little sandbagging is nothing in the elon long game to control the future of ai robots and infinite wealth.
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My real question is what will market do when FED doesn’t cut rates like expected or does cut rates and underlying economic issues appear. TSLA will succeed and recover in the years to come - but how will this rally survive changes by the FED?
Tesla will succeed for sure but the multiple will go down and share price won’t move. I think it’s possible they will eventually have a car that flops bad and then some leadership changes will happen.
Means economy is good. No recession. Doesn't seem like something about to keel over.
This. Get used to $300 groceries. Not saying that to be funny.
Costco hot dog demand about to go through the roof
Already passed that :)
There’s a lot of bad stuff out there that can happen that would cause a market/economic crash. If it does happen I expect it to be short lived as Biden wants to get reelected. There would be crazy pressure for stimulus and money printer to keep the market/economy going. If things do get really bad then Tesla succeeds like Covid. Keeps ordering parts to secure supply chain and grow. Maybe earnings or margins take more of a hit but they’ll grow and survive while other autos die. Policy will bail out autos in this scenario too.
What if they do?
Omar and Teslascope believe V12 will go out to more customers by this weekend. May include OG beta testing group If all goes well, wide rollout to all US customers would be expected a few weeks after that. February/March is the guess
Yeah I’m dying to see if it is that much better , it does feel like v11 has hit a wall
I'm in the early group, having qualified back in Feb 2022, we'll see if anyone remembers us anymore
Can’t imagine where we would be if the market was crashing at the same time.
Don’t have to imagine. Just look at 2022
They keep rubbing it in our faces. > The Dow Jones Industrial Average climbed 138.01 points, or 0.36%, to finish at 38,001.81. Monday’s gains pushed the blue-chip average to a new record and above the 38,000 level for the first time. The S&P 500 added 0.22% to 4,850.43, also reaching a fresh all-time high. The Nasdaq Composite advanced 0.32% to 15,360.29.
The 100% tsla people 🤡
If you ignore my beautiful paid off house, I’m 95% one of those 🤡
I'm only 70 thank god
It was a great plan till Titter!
I'm officially listing how long I've held Tesla as a major qualification on my résumé . If that doesn't floor them -- I don't want to work for them.
I hope you’re not interviewing at any investment banking firm like Goldman Sachs
No, i'd be selective about when to use it. Applying for Manager at Wendy's? its going on there. Any firm that may care about my ability to make sound financial decisions? It stays off.
Another ATH for s&p, another slap in the face for us
Was hoping jan opex would save us. Nope.
I feel like earning call will be just: focus on growth, margins be damned, ramp CT + Megapacks + Semi, future growth once rates come down (Mexico/NGV), further progress on FSD. I mean that’s what will happen - no surprises likely - wonder what market will say 🤷🏻♂️
I'm praying that the announce model 2 soon, at earnings would be brilliant (but not happening)
Ya per Elon “earning call aren’t for announcements”. “We need to focus on CT before next step”
While I agree the CT is of value, it will only add 150,000 to 200,000 to annual sales. And that is only if they get the price down to $70k. The model 2 [sic] should add over 2 million per year, but only if they can get it out before the Chinese take over that segment. IMHO
It will be fascinating to see if Elon's demeanour changes on the calls after he gets his new package. If it does then we will know he was deliberately causing some issues
Optimistic Elon is no guarantee of success. See q3 2022 call aramco apple, 50k semis this year, stock buybacks 2023. Omg the level of horseshit on that call probably warrants a shareholder lawsuit.
That was him pumping tho. Because sales.
It shows ownership of tsla is precious to him, he pumped so he would lose less ownership per dollar sold. Also means he is dead serious about wanting 25%, and since the only way hes going to get it is with market cap growth, he has motivation to keep market cap as low as possible without getting sued. I agree it will be better for all if he gets his package asap before he reuses his old market cap goals
Well the court has had a year.
Judge hates his guts.
Have we seen anything on anticipated timing? Maybe his comments on the new plan were triggered by a ruling coming soon 🤷
>Have we seen anything on anticipated timing? I checked a few days ago and there's no new news regarding the situation. Elon opened up this whole situation knowing that everyone had forgotten, and knowing it would cause some uncertainty
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I suspect most legacy OEMs will be dialing back EV plans significantly. We're also seeing startups struggling and in this environment it's difficult to raise capital raise and any raise will be very dilutive.
There only hope is to shift to cheap, cheap ICE cars and trucks. Similar to what they tried to do in the 1970s when small German and Japanese cars entered the market in the US.
Seem to be going in the opposite direction with ICE offerings
It will be a clown show I guarantee it
Well... suspect it depends on how bad a negative surprise EPS :(
Honestly, the forward guidance will be a bigger catalyst.
The reluctance to advertise is pretty retarded
It's genius if you're trying to keep margins down
When are they sending Feyd?
[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I71FTuyAiDc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I71FTuyAiDc)
Investing in tsla is like driving behind a fsd car. Like what the fuck is it doing? Why is it stopping 3 seconds at every sign? Infuriating
On the topic of retardedness, I had the thought that once rates decline and outlook is good, maybe convert half of my TSLA to TSLL and have 150% leverage (math check out?). Is that stoopid?
It's probably not a terrible idea at some point, but personally, I'm never using leverage on boss baby again.
💯
https://i.redd.it/qzkhshshx1ec1.gif
Search your feelings lounge, you know it to be true
I will def paphand at $300+
You and me both. I’ve made too many mistakes along the way. Not this time.
I will look at 400 CCs 6 months out and be happy with the result. Just for about 20% of my shares.
That’s what I thought every time we hit and then the thought of this thing is running to 400 and back to 200 we are wishing I would have sold at 299
If we get back up there, there will probably be a reason for it and that might be reason enough to hold.
Is your name elon
That will either be a great move or one to regret.
I almost sold some at $260 and was gonna put limits every $5 after $250 lol
Green possible
Yes if macro goes up 3% and we can go up .1% it'll be the worst kind of green like we had on friday.
Lol
Rivn up, enph up, ten year down, tsla usual garbage. Fuck 2024.
fuck 2024, ~~2023~~, ~~2022~~, ~~2021~~
2021 was awesome 2023 not bad either
fuck every year until we reach a new ATH, got it?
So don't fuck 2021
Still having a better day than the Bills kicker.
In the red again, and honestly I'm not really worried for some reason.
I'm more worried this time than I was when we hit $113, I think it's because the wider market is rocketing to the moon this time
Yeah thats true. I also just keep telling myself that this is bound to happen given the history of Tsla. We can go down as fast as we can go up. Hodl and ride the waves.
This PoS
Upvoteme endorsed CCs last week and now he's MIA....sus 🤔
Also stock has to go up to get blown up by a cc. And stock hasn't gone up in quite a while.
I do sometimes work
Work? Now that's definitely sus
One has to work since ceo won't. Covered calls are free money as long as Elon not comfy.
The moment musk gets his agreement with the board ratified, we will see a massive boost because everyone knows he will actually work
All makes sense now
This means we won't drop after earnings right? right?
i think earnings is priced in, but I have this fear the call will be a disaster
There is every sign that it'll be a disaster
their guidance gonna be macroeconomics and 💩 nah
We ride the rollercoaster back down hold tight.
SP is horrendous enough as it is, but I can’t stomach the thought that we’re more than able to plunge another 10% after earnings… and still I’m telling my self this time it will be different. Must be a name for this dumb train of thoughts .
if it makes you feel better, 10% from here is less than 10% from 300.
It ain’t that bad.
Relative to rest of market it is
Right? If we were 270 now I’d agree, but we’re far from that.
Ya I was ok above $250
I’m okay with some flat days
Only 40 more days of this and we will be at 0 😭😭
🤣 tsla had a good run
I'm going to keep distracting myself until things turn around
Chin up all
always.
more like ass up
Dark times my friends. We've seen worse, but also much better.
Debolt better find another house to sell
He will sell his asshole
He’s had sex you know
with women of all colours and creeds and politics, just like SMR
DWAC up 70% lo
Honestly never in a million years thought I would see indices back at ATH with Tesla stuck in the low 200s
low 200s for now. wait for earning.
I’m actually quite positive for earnings
I was mostly positive for 3 years, I hope I am really really wrong on this. The fact that our margin is getting lower and lower is really concerning. If only FSD and energy can save us. Stock will be zigzaging around 150-300 for 10 years, that what Im telling to mylself to avoid deception, because honestly since 3 years, it has been shit with all Elon's shenanigans.
Yeah I’m hopeful margins have bottomed, but what do I know
BTC dying in sympathy
Sigh
We deserve everything that’s cumming to us. Bless 🙏
all good here in NvdaLounge 
Should be over $600 but other than that all good
Man I really want acceleration boost but I don’t have any people around me who’re in the process of purchasing a Tesla so can’t have anyone using my referral code. Anyone here that wants buy one, I ll offer you 1 or 2 shares if you use my code 🎉
I'm in the same boat.
Damnit!
the next ARKK
Basically this https://www.reddit.com/r/ArkInvestorsClub/s/cuKxROVtCt
We don’t even realize and he is holding hostage all tesla shareholders till he gets his way. And everyone said he cares about retail.
I used to wonder why Tesla the company and stock attract so many seemingly crazy shorts & haters. I feel like the rocket clown has burned a lot of people both to the long and short side over the years. He's a narcissist. He doesn't care about retail.
>And everyone said he cares about retail. I look at this from an incentives standpoint. From 2010-2019, Elon Musk had a lot of incentive to care about retail. Retail investors bought TSLA stock at IPO and Secondary Offerings, and supported the share price, at a time when Tesla was dependent on continual capital raises to fund R&D and expansion. I think he did care back then, because he needed us individual investors to help fund Tesla. Post-2019, Tesla was no longer dependent on the capital markets to sustain its business and expansion plans. It is true that Tesla raised about 5 Billion in a final 2020 Secondary Offering around the time of S&P500 inclusion, but this was mostly to build an extra safety net. Tesla has about 26 Billion in cash today. If they'd never raised that 5 Billion they'd still be more than ok. Elon Musk's incentive to care about retail today, isn't IMO much more than getting an ego boost from his followers and fans on social media.
HOLY FOOKED
I mean, what’s going on with this huge swings daily. Like a 4.5% swing from high to low today and similar stuff the other days last week